Nope (as the cost is staggering and I still need to get a new Radeon HD!), the reviews for it have been pretty impressive, hopefully they release a lower end version and motherboard prices that support the new port drop in price.
its only $299 for the 2.6 gig and that thing is fast as hell, im going to get the 2.9 when i get mine but thats close to $500, and you should just wait and get the new nvidia x295 thats coming out, it will be the fastest single card for a long time.
The thing is a beast. Shrugs off anything I throw at it. I have not been able to get it past 50% load yet no matter what I run. Runs pretty cool too. Idles at about 37C. The hottest it ever got was about 60C on a stock cooler.
I haven't tried overclocking it yet as I do not feel comfortable doing so with a stock cooler. The problem is that there aren't a lot of cooling options available for this processor as the mounting is different and a lot of the cooler manufacturers haven't caught up yet. I did read that people were able to overclock it to over 3.00GHz very easily though.
Besides that, I don't really see the need to overclock it just yet.
All in all, it's a great processor and for $300 for the 920 model, you can not got wrong. The only downside is that there aren't many options for a motherboard yet and most decent ones cost around $300.
The thing is a beast. Shrugs off anything I throw at it. I have not been able to get it past 50% load yet no matter what I run. Runs pretty cool too. Idles at about 37C. The hottest it ever got was about 60C on a stock cooler.
I haven't tried overclocking it yet as I do not feel comfortable doing so with a stock cooler. The problem is that there aren't a lot of cooling options available for this processor as the mounting is different and a lot of the cooler manufacturers haven't caught up yet. I did read that people were able to overclock it to over 3.00GHz very easily though.
Besides that, I don't really see the need to overclock it just yet.
All in all, it's a great processor and for $300 for the 920 model, you can not got wrong. The only downside is that there aren't many options for a motherboard yet and most decent ones cost around $300.
well i wont be overclocking it, and im sure by the time i get it a new cooler will be out for it.
Well, I have considered buying one but since I would have to change motherboard and it is hard to find a MB as good as my old one (it is one of A-BITs deluxe boards) and that will cost a few 100s $ too I won't do it for a while.
Right now I am running a overclocked 2,4 quad but with my 280 GTX card I can still max out any game I tried (including AoC, just getting like 25 FPS when a lot is happening on the screen though) so I don't feel the need yet, next year or so it might be time however.
Gaming wise E8600 is still the king on platforms that doesn't support more than 2 cores. It's on par with 940, but 965 runs over it. Comparing prices one could say it's more cost efficient to buy a system with E8500 (on par with 920) than a system with Core i7. Great performance with low costs (mobo & memory also costs extra on i7). But i7 truly shines in 2 fields; memory bandwidth and multi-gpu support.
Remember that i7's pump out crazy memory bandwidth's when you've got three DIMMs installed in triple-channel mode. Sandra2009 benchmarks show a whopping 50% more memory bandwidth when triple-channeling your memory compared to dual-channeling. How much it affects ingame solely depends on the game itself. On Crysis it gives around 1-3 more fps, but in a memory hog like Age of Conan it really shines and blows the competition resulting in tens of more fps.
When talking about multi-gpu systems, the CPU does bottleneck the performance. i7 removes or eases up on the bottleneck, yet again resulting in tens of more fps. If you have 2 or more cards on SLI/CrossFire, you really want to invest into a i7 to milk 'em dry from fps.
I came very close to buying the i7, however it means having a whole new rig which is a pain in the wallet. I will wait until the summer when the price of it becomes more affordable and ddr3 is cheaper.
I came very close to buying the i7, however it means having a whole new rig which is a pain in the wallet. I will wait until the summer when the price of it becomes more affordable and ddr3 is cheaper.
And when DDR3 latencies come down closer to ddr2's.
You're either an idiot, or very rich to purchase one right after release.
The i7 920 costs about $300. The motherboard for it costs another $250-$300. You can get 4GB of DDR3 ram for about $120. Add to that a decent video card Nvidia 9800 GT for about $130.
That's a total of about $850. Provided you're able to use your existing power supply, DVD drive, hard disk and computer case. A decent power supply will cost you about $130, DVD drive for about $30 or less and a hard drive is another $100 for a 1TB. You can also get a computer case for under $100, probably under $50, unless you want those gaudy cases with the clear sides.
That's roughly about $1,200 for a brand new PC, provided you can build one yourself.
I don't see that as being very rich or an idiot. On the other hand, if you get a similar PC from Dell or Alienware or some other site and pay $1,800+, that's a different story.
You're either an idiot, or very rich to purchase one right after release.
The i7 920 costs about $300. The motherboard for it costs another $250-$300. You can get 4GB of DDR3 ram for about $120. Add to that a decent video card Nvidia 9800 GT for about $130.
That's a total of about $850. Provided you're able to use your existing power supply, DVD drive, hard disk and computer case. A decent power supply will cost you about $130, DVD drive for about $30 or less and a hard drive is another $100 for a 1TB. You can also get a computer case for under $100, probably under $50, unless you want those gaudy cases with the clear sides.
That's roughly about $1,200 for a brand new PC, provided you can build one yourself.
I don't see that as being very rich or an idiot. On the other hand, if you get a similar PC from Dell or Alienware or some other site and pay $1,800+, that's a different story.
If you're going to go top of the line on processor, mobo, and ram, why get a junk video card?
You're either an idiot, or very rich to purchase one right after release.
The i7 920 costs about $300. The motherboard for it costs another $250-$300. You can get 4GB of DDR3 ram for about $120. Add to that a decent video card Nvidia 9800 GT for about $130.
That's a total of about $850. Provided you're able to use your existing power supply, DVD drive, hard disk and computer case. A decent power supply will cost you about $130, DVD drive for about $30 or less and a hard drive is another $100 for a 1TB. You can also get a computer case for under $100, probably under $50, unless you want those gaudy cases with the clear sides.
That's roughly about $1,200 for a brand new PC, provided you can build one yourself.
I don't see that as being very rich or an idiot. On the other hand, if you get a similar PC from Dell or Alienware or some other site and pay $1,800+, that's a different story.
If you're going to go top of the line on processor, mobo, and ram, why get a junk video card?
Funny thing about that "junk" video card is that I'm getting 59+ FPS in GTA IV on max settings. As a matter of fact, I'm running everything I possibly can on highest possible settings and not having any problems at all. Dead Space, Fallout 3, Gears of War, Crysis, Far Cry 2, Prince of Persia, Mass Effect... Even AoC cried like a little girl when I loaded it up.
Besides, the GTX 260 is almost double the price and the whole point was to show that you can build a decent system with an i7 processor for around $1,200.
I 6 box EverQuest on a single machine. I use WinEQ 2.0 to do this. My old machine had no problems besides being a little slow in heavy traffic zones.
I recently bought a new PC with the following specs:
Intel i7 920
ASUS P6T Motherboard
12GB DDR3-1333Mhz RAM (6 sticks of 2GB)
Sapphire Radeon 4850 X2
3 x 320GB 7200PRM SATA -II hardrives. I run 2 session on each HD.
Windows XP Professional 64-bit
The load times on my sessions are now really fast. Here comes the catch. My EverQuest windows often crash asking if I want to send feedback to Sony. They crash occasionally 1 at a time, normally while zoning, although also just running through a zone. I've also noticed occasional freezing where one of my windows doesn't respond at all for 5 seconds or so. At the moment I have used the motherboard utility to throttle back the CPU (from regular mode). I have been running for about 24 hours now without a crash. If I can keep it stable for a week or so then I'll turn the CPU back into regular mode (not overclocked) and see if the problem comes back. If I am still having troubles then I'll try replacing my new video card with my old NVidia 8800GTS to see if my problems go away.
The good news is that when 1 session crashes it only takes me 60 seconds to load it back up. However, I'd prefer if it didn't crash at all.
I while back I purchased an early dual core machine and I can remember all the problems I had with the EverQuest client (and the total lack of support I got from Son'ys support staff). In the end I had to manually set the processor asffinity on each of my EQ sessions. Hopefully Sony will catch up with technology soon and provide a client that works with faster gear.
A core i7 means investing in an expensive CPU, motherboard and an obsolete socket. Why would anyone in their right mind do this when you can get the latest AMD CPU and mother board for less with the ability to upgrade to the next line of CPUs without building a new system?
AMD vs Intel = AMD PWNS and Intel is laaaammmeeeee! FACT!
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"
I used to purchase systems that were upgradeable. Then I came to the realization that I have NEVER actually upgraded my CPU. In the 2-3 years between systems I always opt for the complete overhaul.
When I was putting together my system I looked at the $365CDN Intel i7 920 and the $284CDN AMD Phenom II X4 940. I did a fair amount of research on current CPUs and their benchmarks. The i7 achieved a score of 5400 using Passmark and the AMD ran at around 3600. You had to jump up to an AMD Opteron Quad Core to achieve the ratings of the i7's. AMD actually scored the highest with their 8 way Opteron. In any case the i7 cores are clearly faster than the Phenoms at the moment. You will pay a higher price for the i7, but when you consider bang for the buck, it's still a decent value.
The same was true for my video card. The price/performance of the 4850 X2 was the best. I could have spend $640 instead of the $370 I spent to get a 4870 X2, but the extra performance would have cost me roughly 80% more. For me, it wasn't worth the price jump.
I have owned Intels, AMDs, Nvidias and ATIs. I will buy whichever is the best value at the level of performance I am looing for. 2 years ago I would have agreed that the AMD was clearly the better value, but times have changed. I personally think isilly discussions, Intel vs AMD and Nvidia vs ATI are lame. Do you own stock in AMD?
If you don't upgrade but replace systems every couple of years then right now either does well. Since the most demanding thing I do with my comp is usually running a few programmes like photoshop, dreamweaver and flash at the same time. AMD does the best job of handling that, even in some games the X3 has done better than an i7. For raw power in a benchmark then the core i7 wins, but multitasking it loses, for games it will more often than not perform better but it translates into no noticeable difference when playing. So for my situation I'm switching from Intel and Nvidia to AMD and ATI, also it costs less!
No I don't have stock in AMD, I'm merely an objective AMD rabid fanbois!
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"
In the end it's up to the individual buyer to do their homework in order to best decide which components are right for them. Spend the time and do it right and you're much less likely to be disappointed with your purchase. Of course I'll never see anyone do an EverQuest benchmark so I'm pretty much out of luck there.
I'm not sure I'd use the adjective, objective, to describe you if you make posts containing lines like:
AMD vs Intel = AMD PWNS and Intel is laaaammmeeeee! FACT!
If any one company was ever an absolute clear choice they'd have market dominance. As it is both companies typically leap frog each other every few months. Everyone will have their personal preferences, but ti's always best to keep an open mind about things.
Using "pawns" and "fact" in the same sentence is just wrong.
I am a rabid fanbois, the laws of grammar, physics or logic no longer apply to my arguments. FACT!
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"
hmmm that guy that thinks AMD is better than Intel must be snorting rails in his free time if you ask me the i7 is the best processor on the market right now I plan on getting an Alienware rig with one of those in it very soon
Yea AMD is great, good for the money, cheap and realiable in ways but it is in no way at the same level as intel's core 2 duo/quad/extreme and especially i7. And its more not better then the i7
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Nope (as the cost is staggering and I still need to get a new Radeon HD!), the reviews for it have been pretty impressive, hopefully they release a lower end version and motherboard prices that support the new port drop in price.
price is high for UK and i just bought a duo :P
i feel like a noob
its only $299 for the 2.6 gig and that thing is fast as hell, im going to get the 2.9 when i get mine but thats close to $500, and you should just wait and get the new nvidia x295 thats coming out, it will be the fastest single card for a long time.
Just finished building a system with it.
Specs:
i7 920 2.67GHz
Asus P6T Deluxe Motherboard
4GB DDR3 Ram
1TB HD
Nvidia 8800 GTS
The thing is a beast. Shrugs off anything I throw at it. I have not been able to get it past 50% load yet no matter what I run. Runs pretty cool too. Idles at about 37C. The hottest it ever got was about 60C on a stock cooler.
I haven't tried overclocking it yet as I do not feel comfortable doing so with a stock cooler. The problem is that there aren't a lot of cooling options available for this processor as the mounting is different and a lot of the cooler manufacturers haven't caught up yet. I did read that people were able to overclock it to over 3.00GHz very easily though.
Besides that, I don't really see the need to overclock it just yet.
All in all, it's a great processor and for $300 for the 920 model, you can not got wrong. The only downside is that there aren't many options for a motherboard yet and most decent ones cost around $300.
Just finished building a system with it.
Specs:
i7 920 2.67GHz
Asus P6T Deluxe Motherboard
4GB DDR3 Ram
1TB HD
Nvidia 8800 GTS
The thing is a beast. Shrugs off anything I throw at it. I have not been able to get it past 50% load yet no matter what I run. Runs pretty cool too. Idles at about 37C. The hottest it ever got was about 60C on a stock cooler.
I haven't tried overclocking it yet as I do not feel comfortable doing so with a stock cooler. The problem is that there aren't a lot of cooling options available for this processor as the mounting is different and a lot of the cooler manufacturers haven't caught up yet. I did read that people were able to overclock it to over 3.00GHz very easily though.
Besides that, I don't really see the need to overclock it just yet.
All in all, it's a great processor and for $300 for the 920 model, you can not got wrong. The only downside is that there aren't many options for a motherboard yet and most decent ones cost around $300.
well i wont be overclocking it, and im sure by the time i get it a new cooler will be out for it.
if u have enough money you can get a i7 965 extreme..im not one of them..neither would i spend that much on one computer part.
Well, I have considered buying one but since I would have to change motherboard and it is hard to find a MB as good as my old one (it is one of A-BITs deluxe boards) and that will cost a few 100s $ too I won't do it for a while.
Right now I am running a overclocked 2,4 quad but with my 280 GTX card I can still max out any game I tried (including AoC, just getting like 25 FPS when a lot is happening on the screen though) so I don't feel the need yet, next year or so it might be time however.
I just built a system this past week with i7 and I used to use an AMD 4200+, and I definitely notice a difference. I have the 920 i7 as well.
Gaming wise E8600 is still the king on platforms that doesn't support more than 2 cores. It's on par with 940, but 965 runs over it. Comparing prices one could say it's more cost efficient to buy a system with E8500 (on par with 920) than a system with Core i7. Great performance with low costs (mobo & memory also costs extra on i7). But i7 truly shines in 2 fields; memory bandwidth and multi-gpu support.
Remember that i7's pump out crazy memory bandwidth's when you've got three DIMMs installed in triple-channel mode. Sandra2009 benchmarks show a whopping 50% more memory bandwidth when triple-channeling your memory compared to dual-channeling. How much it affects ingame solely depends on the game itself. On Crysis it gives around 1-3 more fps, but in a memory hog like Age of Conan it really shines and blows the competition resulting in tens of more fps.
When talking about multi-gpu systems, the CPU does bottleneck the performance. i7 removes or eases up on the bottleneck, yet again resulting in tens of more fps. If you have 2 or more cards on SLI/CrossFire, you really want to invest into a i7 to milk 'em dry from fps.
I came very close to buying the i7, however it means having a whole new rig which is a pain in the wallet. I will wait until the summer when the price of it becomes more affordable and ddr3 is cheaper.
And when DDR3 latencies come down closer to ddr2's.
Now with 57.3% more flames!
You're either an idiot, or very rich to purchase one right after release.
The i7 920 costs about $300. The motherboard for it costs another $250-$300. You can get 4GB of DDR3 ram for about $120. Add to that a decent video card Nvidia 9800 GT for about $130.
That's a total of about $850. Provided you're able to use your existing power supply, DVD drive, hard disk and computer case. A decent power supply will cost you about $130, DVD drive for about $30 or less and a hard drive is another $100 for a 1TB. You can also get a computer case for under $100, probably under $50, unless you want those gaudy cases with the clear sides.
That's roughly about $1,200 for a brand new PC, provided you can build one yourself.
I don't see that as being very rich or an idiot. On the other hand, if you get a similar PC from Dell or Alienware or some other site and pay $1,800+, that's a different story.
The i7 920 costs about $300. The motherboard for it costs another $250-$300. You can get 4GB of DDR3 ram for about $120. Add to that a decent video card Nvidia 9800 GT for about $130.
That's a total of about $850. Provided you're able to use your existing power supply, DVD drive, hard disk and computer case. A decent power supply will cost you about $130, DVD drive for about $30 or less and a hard drive is another $100 for a 1TB. You can also get a computer case for under $100, probably under $50, unless you want those gaudy cases with the clear sides.
That's roughly about $1,200 for a brand new PC, provided you can build one yourself.
I don't see that as being very rich or an idiot. On the other hand, if you get a similar PC from Dell or Alienware or some other site and pay $1,800+, that's a different story.
If you're going to go top of the line on processor, mobo, and ram, why get a junk video card?
Now with 57.3% more flames!
The i7 920 costs about $300. The motherboard for it costs another $250-$300. You can get 4GB of DDR3 ram for about $120. Add to that a decent video card Nvidia 9800 GT for about $130.
That's a total of about $850. Provided you're able to use your existing power supply, DVD drive, hard disk and computer case. A decent power supply will cost you about $130, DVD drive for about $30 or less and a hard drive is another $100 for a 1TB. You can also get a computer case for under $100, probably under $50, unless you want those gaudy cases with the clear sides.
That's roughly about $1,200 for a brand new PC, provided you can build one yourself.
I don't see that as being very rich or an idiot. On the other hand, if you get a similar PC from Dell or Alienware or some other site and pay $1,800+, that's a different story.
If you're going to go top of the line on processor, mobo, and ram, why get a junk video card?
Funny thing about that "junk" video card is that I'm getting 59+ FPS in GTA IV on max settings. As a matter of fact, I'm running everything I possibly can on highest possible settings and not having any problems at all. Dead Space, Fallout 3, Gears of War, Crysis, Far Cry 2, Prince of Persia, Mass Effect... Even AoC cried like a little girl when I loaded it up.
Besides, the GTX 260 is almost double the price and the whole point was to show that you can build a decent system with an i7 processor for around $1,200.
I 6 box EverQuest on a single machine. I use WinEQ 2.0 to do this. My old machine had no problems besides being a little slow in heavy traffic zones.
I recently bought a new PC with the following specs:
Intel i7 920
ASUS P6T Motherboard
12GB DDR3-1333Mhz RAM (6 sticks of 2GB)
Sapphire Radeon 4850 X2
3 x 320GB 7200PRM SATA -II hardrives. I run 2 session on each HD.
Windows XP Professional 64-bit
The load times on my sessions are now really fast. Here comes the catch. My EverQuest windows often crash asking if I want to send feedback to Sony. They crash occasionally 1 at a time, normally while zoning, although also just running through a zone. I've also noticed occasional freezing where one of my windows doesn't respond at all for 5 seconds or so. At the moment I have used the motherboard utility to throttle back the CPU (from regular mode). I have been running for about 24 hours now without a crash. If I can keep it stable for a week or so then I'll turn the CPU back into regular mode (not overclocked) and see if the problem comes back. If I am still having troubles then I'll try replacing my new video card with my old NVidia 8800GTS to see if my problems go away.
The good news is that when 1 session crashes it only takes me 60 seconds to load it back up. However, I'd prefer if it didn't crash at all.
I while back I purchased an early dual core machine and I can remember all the problems I had with the EverQuest client (and the total lack of support I got from Son'ys support staff). In the end I had to manually set the processor asffinity on each of my EQ sessions. Hopefully Sony will catch up with technology soon and provide a client that works with faster gear.
A core i7 means investing in an expensive CPU, motherboard and an obsolete socket. Why would anyone in their right mind do this when you can get the latest AMD CPU and mother board for less with the ability to upgrade to the next line of CPUs without building a new system?
AMD vs Intel = AMD PWNS and Intel is laaaammmeeeee! FACT!
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"
CS Lewis
I used to purchase systems that were upgradeable. Then I came to the realization that I have NEVER actually upgraded my CPU. In the 2-3 years between systems I always opt for the complete overhaul.
When I was putting together my system I looked at the $365CDN Intel i7 920 and the $284CDN AMD Phenom II X4 940. I did a fair amount of research on current CPUs and their benchmarks. The i7 achieved a score of 5400 using Passmark and the AMD ran at around 3600. You had to jump up to an AMD Opteron Quad Core to achieve the ratings of the i7's. AMD actually scored the highest with their 8 way Opteron. In any case the i7 cores are clearly faster than the Phenoms at the moment. You will pay a higher price for the i7, but when you consider bang for the buck, it's still a decent value.
The same was true for my video card. The price/performance of the 4850 X2 was the best. I could have spend $640 instead of the $370 I spent to get a 4870 X2, but the extra performance would have cost me roughly 80% more. For me, it wasn't worth the price jump.
I have owned Intels, AMDs, Nvidias and ATIs. I will buy whichever is the best value at the level of performance I am looing for. 2 years ago I would have agreed that the AMD was clearly the better value, but times have changed. I personally think isilly discussions, Intel vs AMD and Nvidia vs ATI are lame. Do you own stock in AMD?
If you don't upgrade but replace systems every couple of years then right now either does well. Since the most demanding thing I do with my comp is usually running a few programmes like photoshop, dreamweaver and flash at the same time. AMD does the best job of handling that, even in some games the X3 has done better than an i7. For raw power in a benchmark then the core i7 wins, but multitasking it loses, for games it will more often than not perform better but it translates into no noticeable difference when playing. So for my situation I'm switching from Intel and Nvidia to AMD and ATI, also it costs less!
No I don't have stock in AMD, I'm merely an objective AMD rabid fanbois!
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"
CS Lewis
In the end it's up to the individual buyer to do their homework in order to best decide which components are right for them. Spend the time and do it right and you're much less likely to be disappointed with your purchase. Of course I'll never see anyone do an EverQuest benchmark so I'm pretty much out of luck there.
I'm not sure I'd use the adjective, objective, to describe you if you make posts containing lines like:
AMD vs Intel = AMD PWNS and Intel is laaaammmeeeee! FACT!
If any one company was ever an absolute clear choice they'd have market dominance. As it is both companies typically leap frog each other every few months. Everyone will have their personal preferences, but ti's always best to keep an open mind about things.
Using "pawns" and "fact" in the same sentence is just wrong.
I am a rabid fanbois, the laws of grammar, physics or logic no longer apply to my arguments. FACT!
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"
CS Lewis
I'm almost done with mine.
I recieved a bond of $1000 as a younger child and forgot about it for a while. I got it last year and bought some things.
I have the CPU Intel i7 965 Extreme
Memory, Harddrive (might have to get more), blue ray disk drive, video card geforce gtx 295.
I'm missing a motherboard the most and Im searching but saving some money.
hmmm that guy that thinks AMD is better than Intel must be snorting rails in his free time if you ask me the i7 is the best processor on the market right now I plan on getting an Alienware rig with one of those in it very soon
Yea AMD is great, good for the money, cheap and realiable in ways but it is in no way at the same level as intel's core 2 duo/quad/extreme and especially i7. And its more not better then the i7