No, the only thing that that confirms is that Germany, France and the like are not strong gaming territories and are not interested in Spellborn, as opposed to the US, UK, Australia, South Africa and the likes.
Frogster has made jack squat from almost no sales of a game that's consuming bandwidth every day for trials that go nowhere, mostly people who are proxy users. So now those with proxy access play the trial, don't like it, and won't be there for when their country get access. And Acclaim has seen this.
As much as I despise Acclaim as a publisher, it would make total sense to me for them to pull out at this point. This may be why they have delayed beta in NA. If the game they are going to market/publish is tanking in the places it has already released, and that's with the help of NA and EU players proxying to pad the numbers, why would they think the game would do any better anywhere else?
Spellborn being made by "nobodies" ( in a game developer sense), I am sure both Frogster and Acclaim have very liberal pullout clauses in their contracts. Most importantly, I would suspect Acclaim for one would have a clause for canceling the contract based on inital release success in the starter territories.
I watched the streaming video of a player in another thread yesterday off and on for a few hours. There was maybe two or three people around besides himself the whole damn time. That is a game ready to die, not a game being born
No, the only thing that that confirms is that Germany, France and the like are not strong gaming territories and are not interested in Spellborn, as opposed to the US, UK, Australia, South Africa and the likes.
Germany is the biggest EU country and usually the single biggest gaming territory within the EU. Even in TCoS right now probably about 70% of the players are from Germany I suppose.
The territories that are currently able to play gota population of about 180 million people. And you're lucky to see any players online after you left the F2P zones which aren't really filled with players themselves. If you can't get players to try TCoS for free something is wrong.
TCoS has always seemed to be a little shaky anyway as far as marketing and getting their product out to the public go.....Heck it took them forever to even get Acclaim as a publisher in the US.......When I was trying ot get into beta the game just struck me as a game that should be f2p...I just dont see it competing with the p2p titles.......
Germany is the biggest EU country and usually the single biggest gaming territory within the EU. Even in TCoS right now probably about 70% of the players are from Germany I suppose. The territories that are currently able to play gota population of about 180 million people. And you're lucky to see any players online after you left the F2P zones which aren't really filled with players themselves. If you can't get players to try TCoS for free something is wrong.
I agree with this - france, germany, benelux and scandinavia all have decent gamer population, but they are not interested/do not know about the game. IP ban disaster of course did not help, but I doubt that it is the only cause - after all normally there are a lot of people who just try random games without their guild or buddies. Even trial zones are not crowded, what says enough.
Originally posted by mrigns Germany is the biggest EU country and usually the single biggest gaming territory within the EU. Even in TCoS right now probably about 70% of the players are from Germany I suppose. The territories that are currently able to play gota population of about 180 million people. And you're lucky to see any players online after you left the F2P zones which aren't really filled with players themselves. If you can't get players to try TCoS for free something is wrong.
Or, as I said, maybe they're simply not countries that like to game. If you compare the same number of Germans and Americans, I'm sure you'll find the latter nation is more of a gaming nation. For the life of me I hardly ever see Germans playing the games I play, but there are plenty of Americans, Brits etc.
Originally posted by mrigns Germany is the biggest EU country and usually the single biggest gaming territory within the EU. Even in TCoS right now probably about 70% of the players are from Germany I suppose. The territories that are currently able to play gota population of about 180 million people. And you're lucky to see any players online after you left the F2P zones which aren't really filled with players themselves. If you can't get players to try TCoS for free something is wrong.
Or, as I said, maybe they're simply not countries that like to game. If you compare the same number of Germans and Americans, I'm sure you'll find the latter nation is more of a gaming nation. For the life of me I hardly ever see Germans playing the games I play, but there are plenty of Americans, Brits etc.
This is probably because Germans usually have their own, localised Servers for almost any MMOG. So unless you're playing on German servers you'll hardly find any of them.
At least the trolls have discovered this game now.
I was wondering how long that was going to take Must mean people are starting to know about this game at least a little bit.
That was my point, but, of course, some troll had to make fun of it.
Btw, on a completely different note, before this game was released it was argued that this game would have to get its players by word of mouth advertising by the players. The game is really good, but all I see here is complaining about too few people playing, which, although it is correct, is driving away the players from this game and continuating the problem at least up till the American release of the game.
I think that not releasing this game world-wide at the same time is at the heart of the problem, and I can only hope that when Acclaim finally will distribute this game that that problem will be solved. A bit more then just releasing the game will be needed though.
I am still wondering what these guys was going to reach by selling game only to chosen customers. To example if you are from Denmark you are OK, if you are from some other country = we spit on you. That is not best way for any company, maybe for some radical nazi groups it works. I was really happy when i readed info about releasing TCoS (finally), but now ..... , well, I feel someone blaming me, they lost chance. KKTHXBYE ;>
But seriously, what you are saying is not true. World-wide release is delayed, no one said the game will not be released in your country. As a matter of fact Acclaim will release the game there. Frustration about that is ok, but please keep your facts straight.
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No, the only thing that that confirms is that Germany, France and the like are not strong gaming territories and are not interested in Spellborn, as opposed to the US, UK, Australia, South Africa and the likes.
I can give you a good possibility.
Frogster has made jack squat from almost no sales of a game that's consuming bandwidth every day for trials that go nowhere, mostly people who are proxy users. So now those with proxy access play the trial, don't like it, and won't be there for when their country get access. And Acclaim has seen this.
As much as I despise Acclaim as a publisher, it would make total sense to me for them to pull out at this point. This may be why they have delayed beta in NA. If the game they are going to market/publish is tanking in the places it has already released, and that's with the help of NA and EU players proxying to pad the numbers, why would they think the game would do any better anywhere else?
Spellborn being made by "nobodies" ( in a game developer sense), I am sure both Frogster and Acclaim have very liberal pullout clauses in their contracts. Most importantly, I would suspect Acclaim for one would have a clause for canceling the contract based on inital release success in the starter territories.
I watched the streaming video of a player in another thread yesterday off and on for a few hours. There was maybe two or three people around besides himself the whole damn time. That is a game ready to die, not a game being born
Germany is the biggest EU country and usually the single biggest gaming territory within the EU. Even in TCoS right now probably about 70% of the players are from Germany I suppose.
The territories that are currently able to play gota population of about 180 million people. And you're lucky to see any players online after you left the F2P zones which aren't really filled with players themselves. If you can't get players to try TCoS for free something is wrong.
TCoS has always seemed to be a little shaky anyway as far as marketing and getting their product out to the public go.....Heck it took them forever to even get Acclaim as a publisher in the US.......When I was trying ot get into beta the game just struck me as a game that should be f2p...I just dont see it competing with the p2p titles.......
I agree with this - france, germany, benelux and scandinavia all have decent gamer population, but they are not interested/do not know about the game. IP ban disaster of course did not help, but I doubt that it is the only cause - after all normally there are a lot of people who just try random games without their guild or buddies. Even trial zones are not crowded, what says enough.
Alot of my M8's who can play it have never heard of it.
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At least the trolls have discovered this game now.
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And even they aren't playing it. Hell, TCoS can't even attract the early-bird gold farmers or the grind monkeys.
Or, as I said, maybe they're simply not countries that like to game. If you compare the same number of Germans and Americans, I'm sure you'll find the latter nation is more of a gaming nation. For the life of me I hardly ever see Germans playing the games I play, but there are plenty of Americans, Brits etc.
Or, as I said, maybe they're simply not countries that like to game. If you compare the same number of Germans and Americans, I'm sure you'll find the latter nation is more of a gaming nation. For the life of me I hardly ever see Germans playing the games I play, but there are plenty of Americans, Brits etc.
This is probably because Germans usually have their own, localised Servers for almost any MMOG. So unless you're playing on German servers you'll hardly find any of them.
I was wondering how long that was going to take
Must mean people are starting to know about this game at least a little bit.
DoA = Death upon Arrival?
If so, I agree.
I was wondering how long that was going to take
Must mean people are starting to know about this game at least a little bit.
That was my point, but, of course, some troll had to make fun of it.
Btw, on a completely different note, before this game was released it was argued that this game would have to get its players by word of mouth advertising by the players. The game is really good, but all I see here is complaining about too few people playing, which, although it is correct, is driving away the players from this game and continuating the problem at least up till the American release of the game.
I think that not releasing this game world-wide at the same time is at the heart of the problem, and I can only hope that when Acclaim finally will distribute this game that that problem will be solved. A bit more then just releasing the game will be needed though.
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I am still wondering what these guys was going to reach by selling game only to chosen customers.
To example if you are from Denmark you are OK, if you are from some other country = we spit on you.
That is not best way for any company, maybe for some radical nazi groups it works.
I was really happy when i readed info about releasing TCoS (finally), but now ..... , well, I feel someone blaming me, they lost chance.
KKTHXBYE ;>
Godwin's Law, you lose.
But seriously, what you are saying is not true. World-wide release is delayed, no one said the game will not be released in your country. As a matter of fact Acclaim will release the game there. Frustration about that is ok, but please keep your facts straight.
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