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I lasted a week so far
LordSkaal
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Well a week ago i was debating which MMO to try out after leaving EVE - Online.
The look of the game is fantastic i admit and the map's are big but i just wished it was a open world like SWG rather then zone's are instanced.
Grinding my char was so frustrating. Unless you know some one to group with, you'll be faced with being ganked pretty much every time you go out to quest.
Got to a stage where i was leaving a zone because gankers would simply not leave me alone.. im all for PVP but when you already have a group of NPC on you, a player most likley above your level will just finish you off.
Social aspect the " global " chat was pretty much full of trash and imature comments though i admit i did find a friendly guild.
I tried the PVP Catch the flag and i really enjoyed that but i was waiting many hours to even be able to enter one. Must be because of my level (29).
The game doesnt really give you reason's for wanting to stay on the grind to 80.. im already bored of go kill x y and z a million times over plus having to keep walking back to said quest because of most likley having a ranger fire a arrow up my rear.
It could be alot better if the social aspect of the game was better.. its attracted alot of people just out to ruin your day and mock you afterwards.. and if you beat them.. get ready for a few swear words sent your way.
Im wondering wether to carry on or try WAR.. its so frustrating that people can ruin a game.. its my view and my view alone so please no flaming
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If your on Tyranny, they were having "Kill noobs that got AoC on christmas" day, even though I dont see why, since it would hurt the population even more.
Currently restarting World of Warcraft
That type of petulant and unhelpful behavior doesn't surprise me at all from some of the AOC community .
Yip really helping bringing in the numbers for the future of the game
"after the time of dice came the day of mice "
This has probably happened to a lot of people and gives a good impression on Age of Conan community. I have seen the same thing personally online.
People think that because AoC is a "mature" game, it will attract mature crowd. Wrong. It actually attracts the opposite.
When you have a game with digital boobies, you are bound to get all the frustrated kids and nolife nerd gamers who never had a woman. These people are the worst crowd to play MMO's with. Unless you are one of them of course
I want an MMO with an interesting political system. That is the best way to get rid of these kid gamers and make a truly mature game.
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Originally posted by Frobner
"Massive sieges" "mounted combat" and "spellweaving" are just few words that spring to mind when I hear the word AOC.... But the word FAILURE will always top the list.
Bascially LordSkall you summed up the AoC experience. I left not so much cause of all the bugs etc but the 'pvp' in the game was gank fest mania...this was on a rp server which annoyed me even more when your out in the wilds rping then a group zerg kills you then goes back to the spawn point to keep killing you untill you log out...which you cant do when your dead so you have to CDT out.
The whole murder system didnt really change anything that much at all really but lvl superiority wasnt a concern at lvl 80 it was the zerg guilds farming pvp points.
The community as a whole sucked and were telling people to 'go back to wow' (or other games) so i just left. I am glad you said of your experience cause I was actually thinking about returning after christmas at sometime but you remind me of the inmmature community in that game.
As a whole I think the WAR community is pretty good, the order on Karag8peak and desto on Eltharian are okay...you get the odd idiot but on the whole is nice and pvp is RvR so you wont get backstabed or ganked so much. On the Eltharian server its open world which means they can attack anywhere people want...so you get ganked at low lvls by slightly higher enemies but you easy find allies to sort that out. Only problem with this is that if you want to go back to T1 or T2 (maybe for crafting reasons or other reasons) you get turned into a chicken cause of the certain lvl caps for each zone. Core worlds dont have this and RvR is only in certain areas but its a real world and not instanced.
I quited WAR just resently but i dont see any other game take my interest and i dont thin its worth returning to AoC....they still havent implemented DX10 so i gonna resub WAR it is far more interesting if your into pvp.
Thank you for the replies
The server im on is " FURY " and yes i was also told to go back to WoW hehe . You see the point is i LOVE PvP but not every day constant ganking. I played a far harsher game in EVE where we acutally lost what we used but the problem in AoC is you have no idea if a player is about to attack you with every one having the skill " hide " .
Yesterday i was acutally having alot of fun grouping with another new player and we met another two players doing the same quests as us. We left them to avoid a gank fest and in turn it seem'd they avoided us also. It was only when we reached a " BOSS " that they attacked us and lost. But this is where it got silly, They called in guild members 20 levels above us and ganked us till we had no choice to log off .
In that time i was told to f*** off and not come back and if they ever see me again will face the same punishment. I tried saying we only fought back but wasnt getting any where.
Today i switched zone's to a much bigger map after being tipped off its a bit quieter ie less room for ganks but still i had people trying to ruin it. Its just a big shame that leave's me with no desire to carry on.
I think that going back to WAR where i have a level 30 odd toon will be a better idea. If i want to PVP i can join a instance and at least i will have fellow faction members "wanting" to back me up rather then also ganking me.
There comes a point where PVP isnt PVP and AoC sum's it up.. people who start AoC and make it to level 80, i can only salute you for carrying on . After WAR i dont see any other MMO's taking my fancy apart from DARKFALL which i still think might fail.
Im posting this because im honestly gutted its turned out this way and just the way its happend as there are time's you can have fun but the system will simply spoil it for you.
Unless something has changed, you do have a choice of servers, PVP and..non-PVP.
If you wish to go out and quest solo and not worry about being ganked, chose the non-pvp server.
Gamers these days just don't understand how to play on an PVP server. You either pick a class that can stealth, (which is what I did) or you hunt in groups with your friends...even having 2 people in your team can help alot.
You have to be very careful in a pvp server, and always play defensively.
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Well, I can advice to join some bigger guild yourself then. There are decent guilds in this game, where people will come to help you instantly after you post a cry for help in a guild chat.
If offenders are from another rather big guild, that can involve some interesting action unwrapping...
But I can understand the frustration. The system is certainly not perfect.
From another hand, one can say that these kind of events stand for a "real" conan world PvP experience. You maybe get humiliated once, but you remember the names, and you will certainly grow stronger quite soon.
Oh, and I forgot to mention...
I believe that the key in having fun in PvP is being able not to take things too close personally.
After all, most of those guys attacking you are normal people, and some of them are very nice in the real life. They are just playing some role they've come up with (that's especially true on RP PvP servers).
If you can lose, then you can win as well
Yep, this is AoC community for you. Similar thing has happened to me many times and the pvp patch only made things worse.
If AoC had some interesting meaningful endgame, there wouldn't be so many gankers. Unfortunately right now ganking is the most fun thing you can do in AoC. Kinda sad really.
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Originally posted by Frobner
"Massive sieges" "mounted combat" and "spellweaving" are just few words that spring to mind when I hear the word AOC.... But the word FAILURE will always top the list.
i understand it's a PVP server.. It's all ive ever chose in a MMO but like i said, for a new person entering AoC, you are up against it.
For example..The first Area " white sands " where you can openly attack others there has always been 5 or so in a group waiting for you to spawn off the boat .
Plus when the comment was maid to chose a class that can stealth? Well it would be a bad design if we all chose the same class dont you think?
And trust me, i am ALWAYS on the defensive watching every one who come's near me. But im talking about is pure ganking.. even after you died to sending you tell's of just utter trash..
Another example is another server as stated by some one else having a kill every one who got AOC day ^^.
The community so far is its own worst enemy,,simple as. I LOVE pvp as much as the next guy but i still need to get to the same level as every one.. but im not getting ganked every quest i do to get there.
Well, I believe it's very possible to pass Tortage almost without entering White Sands/Underhalls at all. I did it once.
You have "Tortage night" quests to level up, as well as Acheronian Ruins, which is PvE zone.
But even then, if there are people ganking you, then it means there also are people who can be ganked.
And those people can join together and try to stand against gankers. It worked a couple of times for me as well.
As for "kill all the n00bs" day, I find it to be quite shameful.
They must envy the snow mammoth or something.
Well when you rolled on one of the most populated general pvp servers, this is what's in for you. These servers will attract the kind of behaviour that you mention here, and the trolls will be fast to brand it "the AoC community". Every game has theese kinds of jackasses, and it is no secret that a game like AoC will have an extra appeal to them.
If you found a good guild, bring some fiends and go after the gankers for fun. If this does not sound like fun for you, you are better off going to a PVE server. On a PVE server you can still pvp, both open pvp in the border kingdoms, minigames and later sieges, but at your own leisure. I think one of the main problems is that people do not choose the right servers in the first place.
Logged in an hour ago and about to try a quest.. an assassin 12 level's above me kills me then waits for me to respawn.
Get a friend to kill him to try get some questing done.. start on the quest and 2 rangers jump on me..
Move to a differnt zone where an Assasin acutally attacks me while im stood in the city and 2 randomers help him thinking i attacked him! .. sigh,.
So no thanks hehe. Im sure people love the game but im bailing out...PVP aside im level 29 and with there being 80 levels to join in with the big stuff... i really have no desire to kill another billion npc with the state of things.
Side note, i should not have to miss out on zone's because people take ganking to a new level .. simple as
As a side note, you probably should try playing on Aquilonia (which is EU RP-PvP server).
Fury is particularly known for it's ganking attitude. Also, it seems that it's the server which has the most of the russian population.
Now, I don't have anything bad to tell about russian players, but even being "almost russian" myself I was consistently ganked by them when playing my alt on Fury in Tortage.
You can not judge them for being cynical... that's a part of mentality
Just try another server.
Aquilonia is the same way with only a slightly older (not mature) assholes. I have many characters on Aquilonia and I've been to many guilds.
There are some nice people too but majority of the people I've met during my months of play were assholes or just plain old crazy. Worst MMO community I have ever seen.
Yes OP, you should back to WAR. Maybe you can try AoC again sometime next year. Hopefully Funcom gives us some meaningful pvp so players are not forced to do this ganking 24/7.
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Originally posted by Frobner
"Massive sieges" "mounted combat" and "spellweaving" are just few words that spring to mind when I hear the word AOC.... But the word FAILURE will always top the list.
I have tried many servers and they all suck at pvp and rp in the communtiy. Most if not all the decent people have pretty much folded the cover closed on AoC and are told to get back to wow etc just one to many times.
People on there dont really know the meaning of player versus player and just gank but think thats skill and if you dont like it you can roll a depopulated and non pvp server....this i find quite funny when people say this because the game has a very low player base and pratically no seige battles but still they will tell people to...go back to wow....roll a non pvp server etc etc.
comes a point when you just say....seeya
I did laugh with the 'roll an assassin'......shame it could have made if as a game (after some programing and decent contents) but there is nothing Funcom can do about the attitude of the majority of the community. It might get better with the 360 release but who knows.
I have not seen as immature and pathetic pvp in WoW, Lotro, WAR so my moneys with one of these.
I've found a solution to this.
1. Turn off the Global chat channel and don't turn it back on
2. Avoid White Sands...although I did have fun taking out a ranger ganker with some other people close to my level.
Seriously...if you do these you will notice a huge difference. I've made about 7 friends and they're all really cool and mature people from just grouping up. It's the asshats that sit in Global and talk shit all day that is annoying and really ruins the experience.
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I don't see what the OP's problem is. It's a PvP server if you believe it's only the AoC community then you are in a world of hurt as it happens in every game.
AoC's pvp servers are much more mellow than other games' because most high levels are discouraged to pick on the lowbies. Thanks to the pvp system in place.
If groups are ganking you than I am sure they are ganking other lowbies. You should team with those players and fight against the other gankers. If thats not your cup of tea then I would really suggest a PvE server.
Go buy the source of all MMO this day, World of Warcraft. Everything else is just a desperate try to copy WoW. Its better to be playing the real deal. 12 million subscribers cant be wrong even if you think so.
LordSkaal, If you are quiting just beacus you get ganked, i think you should try to reroll on a PVE server first and see if you like it or not.
I mean if you like the game but you dont whant to play becaus of gankers, the best way is to roll on a pve server.
You will still be abel to do pvp, in minigames / Sieges and Borderkingdoms.
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I think he likes pvp so rerolling to a pve server is a bad solution for his problem.
Pvp servers in AoC are nothing more than a huge gankfest. Unless you play with a couple of friends you have ZERO chance of surviving. There are many professional gank squads who will grief you for HOURS until you logout.
These kind of nolife gankers exist in all pvp games but in AoC there's 10 times more of them because AoC is the perfect game for a ganker.
They should have some kind of WORKING system of dealing with this kind of behavior but they don't. And that's why many people have left the game and are leaving every day.
I predict in a couple of months all they have left is a couple of servers with gankers ganking each other. Awesome pvp game.
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Originally posted by Frobner
"Massive sieges" "mounted combat" and "spellweaving" are just few words that spring to mind when I hear the word AOC.... But the word FAILURE will always top the list.
You mention that you are interested in Darkfall.... Darkfall will have worse gankers than AoC. If AoC is too much for you then save your money on Darkfall.
Scaredgirl sumed it up.
I said i am indeed intersted but i wont play from the start intill i hear what it is like. If anything like AoC gankfest i wont be making the journy.
So maybe WAR .. i need to take a hard look at whats going on and hopefully a good soultion is found.
You don't need to change games if all you don't like is the gankfest. AOC is NOT a gankfest....AOC's PvP servers are gankfests. There is a solution in AoC already for people like you. It's called a PvE server. For the life of me, I don't get why people refuse to play on PvE servers when they don't want to get ganked. If all the people like you just stopped being retarded and started playing on PvE servers, there would be TONS of pvp on the pve server in minigames and borderlands.
Thank you for the reply Oro but you have just taken one part out of why i lasted a week with this game.
Not only did i despise the gank fest community but after reaching level 29 i was getting bored of the same quest's over and over and i really did enjoy the mini game's but i was in a queue for hours.
Im sure it's quicker at level 80 with the majority at that level but still if AoC want more players then 1-2 mini games every few hours isnt good enough .
With the graphics and all , it has room for development but i still feel this game need's alota love. I drool of the though of this game in more of a sandbox way, with no instances.. one huge zone.
But this is my view and my alone. Im sure others love AoC but its not for me.. yet ..