Originally posted by Aragon100Originally posted by ElendilasX
Aragon100: I dont think it is worth to compare screenshots, because you can take worst ss from DF and best from WoW and make DF look like piece of shit. For minimum comparision you should take gameplay videos...
Darkfall will look like the best Darkfall screenshots onscreen. This is confirmed. I can bring you screenshots all day and compare Darkfall and WoW screenies and WoW will loose everytime. I think it's fun that a small Indy company like Aventurine seems to top a large dragon company as Blizzard both in graphics and gameplay. That you dont see every day, do you?
LOL
This might have more punch, or any punch at all, if WoW hadn't come out over 4 years ago. As for gameplay, well we can make all the subjective arguments we like but the only thing that won't lie are numbers. Which is pretty moot as well, seeing as how they're two completely different and very nearly incomparable types of games.
Yup, you one at that one. The graphics of WoW have stayed that way because people have attached to them. Plus a massive graphic overhaul would cut on their sub numbers.
Furthermore, most MMO' companies now adays are coming out with better graphics, but sometimes are not optimized enough.
We'll see however, since there are quite a few working on high end graphics for MMO's such as SGW, Huxley, and Earthrise.
Yet...they still get forced to dumb down the graphics. Look at SGW, it was amazing on the 3d in-engine concepts, but the later screens have been WoW'd to an effect.
Good. The crapier the better. If you want pretty then go play some AoC with the rest of the kids.
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So when WAR's attack animations were choppy and bad it was all bitch and moan. (don't know if they still are)
But when the so called god send of all games Darkfall has terrible, I mean terrible animations its okay? How can one game get flamed to all hell, and have a saposive bad launch yet if Darkfall has shitty attack animations its okay. (would call WAR the best launch of any MMO maybe a little above or at least next to LORT)
Can anyone shed some light on this to me? I've been watching this game because well, it might be fun to stealth gank people and make someones life a living hell untill they unsubscribe. But, with the mentality of bad animations = okay, then I really hate to see were this game is going.
I laughed at jokes about Tasos, how hes a God figure. But really its getting to that point. The fanboys really seem to only think good of this game. Yet the evidence shows that it is not going to be so good.
But anyways can I please be told why horrible I mean worst ive ever seen in a damn video game attack animations in Darkfall is okay, yet in WAR its complete doom and death of the game.
So when WAR's attack animations were choppy and bad it was all bitch and moan. (don't know if they still are) But when the so called god send of all games Darkfall has terrible, I mean terrible animations its okay? How can one game get flamed to all hell, and have a saposive bad launch yet if Darkfall has shitty attack animations its okay. (would call WAR the best launch of any MMO maybe a little above or at least next to LORT) Can anyone shed some light on this to me? I've been watching this game because well, it might be fun to stealth gank people and make someones life a living hell untill they unsubscribe. But, with the mentality of bad animations = okay, then I really hate to see were this game is going. I laughed at jokes about Tasos, how hes a God figure. But really its getting to that point. The fanboys really seem to only think good of this game. Yet the evidence shows that it is not going to be so good.
But anyways can I please be told why horrible I mean worst ive ever seen in a damn video game attack animations in Darkfall is okay, yet in WAR its complete doom and death of the game.
WAR didnt have any gameplay worth the name as i see it.
I can live with not that good animations if gameplay is good. A huge difference.
The "evidence" of both confirmed and leaked information tells us that Darkfall will be a hell of a game.
Well, again...there's a big graphical difference between the OP's video and StopidFanboi's video. As for gameplay, (almost) every MMO is unique in their own way so you can't really say a certain MMO has better gameplay than another. The correct saying would be "I like/prefer this MMO's gameplay over the other".
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large scale wars require crappy graphic. If you played AoC at launch you'd realize this. However, I'm pretty sure that vid is from like 2007
Agree, it requires low polygon graphics but i disagree it's poor graphics cause of that. WoW have low polygon graphics and in that case i totally agree, it's very ugly low polygon graphics.
Darkfalls graphics is so much better then the graphics we see in WoW -
WoW is cartoonish and plain awful. Just look at the WoW sky if you can call that a sky will say.
Have a nice day
You are not getting my point. This game suffers from the Vanguard syndrom. I tell you, nice snapshot but very choppy synthetic animations and worlddynamics....as in poor shadow dynamics (for christ sake a barrel in that vid looked like it was made of plastic), poor 3D feel to landscape, the polygoncount is not all that good (hexagonal Cannons), animations in general just have to few frames pr second (smacks the smoothnes), disasterous little detail to any of the scenes showed in this vid and so on...
Don't get me wrong I admire the idealism in the Darkfall team, and I really hope they are getting something decent in place out of all theitr hard work. And they can if gameplay kicks ass. All I am saying is that this game will probably not change the MMO landscape that much. WOW,LotRO,AoC,WAR, EvE are fierce competitors and I think they will keep leading the industry in whatever direction we are moving.... fortunately or unfortunately depending on what kind of a fanboi you are.
This contradicts what you're saying. Videos isnt reliable at all. You never get the same experience from them as you get ingame looking at your monitor.
Read these judgement on graphics from beta players and you might understand Darkfall is a beatiful world to play in -
The consensus about the graphics is that they’re much better than expected, something we’ve been saying all along. The game has been very stable and smooth overall, even in the full debug mode it’s running in. We’re experiencing really good gameplay from all over the world, even though our beta servers are in Germany, we’ve had no problems reported by testers in Western N. America, or in the Far East.
"The Client is astonishingly stable (except for the Crashes while changing resolutions/graphic settings - though this has got alot better since the last patches too.”
“The meticulously detailed world map is as huge as promised and feels so much more 3-dimensional than past MMORPG's that relied on height mapping. The overpasses, caves, chasms and crags, they add huge amounts of atmosphere to the environment.”
“Only testing for a couple of hours now, but i just have to say, everything looks just so detailed... i am not really into gfx, but i am really amazed on all the things i've seen so far... very impressive...”
“I walked from Chopping Necks (westernmost Ork starter town) to the coast to the east over 2 or 3 hours and NOT ONCE was I bored with repetitive landscape. There is almost always a settlement of goblins, freaky bird-men, hivekin, or something going on, and it's on all sides of you. I swam to an island off the coast, then to a second island. In total, the trip took about 4-5 hours one-way. I explored what looked like ~3% of the total map. Do the math! The world is gigantic!”
“Build 50 is extremely stable. I haven't crashed once and I've been playing a lot of hours. I have found very few bugs.”
“The amount of scaling possible with the graphics is genius. You have more options than ever and they all make sense. You don't have to have an enthusiast-level rig to enjoy df.”
“The graphics scale pretty well apparently. The game looks fine. They need to do some optimization, but everything is running in debug mode and I get 60-90 FPS.”
“From the moment of logging in I was in awe. The world is simply amazing and one cannot describe the intricacies and details of the vast world of Agon. I have never been a visually captivated gamer but I can't help but stop to admire the craftsmanship that formed this virtual world.”
“The world is amazing, I must say. I've only been around the Alfar parts so far - pure awesomesauce there - and every part there feels unique.
I walked around fighting some goblins near one of the starting zones and looked up and thought that the sky looked abit strange, but then realized that it was not the sky that I was looking at, I were inside the mountain and I was looking at a huge cliff that were hanging over me. So you can see that they have spent alot of work shaping the world, which is again, pure awesomesauce.
Climbing mountains feels really cool as well. To stand up there looking down at the world and you get the feeling that you can almost touch the sky.
I've only been around the Alfar parts, but never get bored exploring. The world really is huge, when you look at how long it took to walk from A to B on the map.”
“I wont nit pick for silly things but the game it self ran very smooth I was running at 120-150 ping to the European servers. I only ran across one lag spot as I was running around the land. I love seeing the skill gain system working just from using abilities, it's been to long to see that. I have a high end system but I run on an 8800GT (waiting for release to get my new card) and it still ran smooth.”
“I think there should be more about the quality of the graphics as that was one of the major criticisms made by your detractors. After playing, I honestly think you guys managed to make fools out of them.”
“The client is very stable, haven't had a single crash. The worldbuilding is very good indeed (as other's have noted as well). It looks and feels believable as a world filled with strange creatures, and that you can go wherever you want is really fun.”
“Performance is better than I would have ever imagined on my machine.”
“The graphics are strange in some places and absolutely superb in others. Some stuff like rocks, gardens and books just blew me away with the detail and beauty. Some rocks looked like a photograph while others had some pretty sharp edges to them and didn't look very real. Note that I have not seen much of the world and it is strictly limited to the dwarven starting area.”
“Main thing that has impressed me so far is the quality of the worldbuilding. The people responsible for that really outdid themselves and should be proud of their work. It is sheer delight to go striking out in a random direction and seeing what you can see; both overall settings and nuanced details are superb.”
“Have u ever stop playing, sit back and admire the sunrise or the sunset in ANY other MMO? Darkfall was my first...
Yes the graphics ARE that good”
“Every bit of the music I've heard so far fits the setting it's in, especially the Alfar starting areas and Shoal itself. It's not the typical fantasy MMO style tunes that I had expected but more eerie and dark, sometimes hollow feeling. Even the weird almost digital/ambient-industrial sounding splash screen music is well done and gets you in just the right mood to play.
And the sound effects are everything they should be, from the blocking of a wooden shield, the tinking of metal on metal, the character's vocal grunts and the spattering of blood... on everything. Even when I don't have arrows sticking out of me already, I can tell something is shooting at me and usually from which direction, when I hear the whizzing of an arrow fly past my head.”
“Client is stable and amazing, i've been playing since the MUD/"The Realm"/
UO 97 before T2A (The Second Age) and i've seen bad clients and good clients, ive seen non-stop .exe crashes and memory leaks (shadowbane.exe anyone? lovely memory leak that took over 6+ months to address) to amazing stability (darkfall client) WoW was another well done and stable client, even with all the add-ons that could be attached to the GUI, I also beta tested both WoW and Warhammer, my experience with warhammer was less than satisfying and there graphics aren't as good as people claim they are because for the graphics I receive compared to the performance I
get, to me indicates they did not optimize their graphics/polygons/etc. In closing the Darkfall client does not seem to have any noticeable memory leaks, however cluster loads can seem completely random at times, however are short, 5-15 seconds range = great.”
"The world is massive feeling and as I looked up at the sky I saw the sun moving. The shadows drew closer to me from a tower up on a hillside and I was looking at how the shadow changed as the sun moved. Then I got annihilated by a pack of goblins scouts because I was paying too much attention to the wrong parts of my surroundings."
“I can't give enough credit to the art direction. Everywhere you go, you get a pretty clear "Darkfall" ambience that is truly unique and immersive. There is a lot of attention to detail and you can tell that there was a lot of love put into some of the design. The quality of graphics and animation have a little inconsistency, but overall there is a "wow" factor that I never expected from an MMO that gives you free range over everything. Just watching the sun/moon phases takes up way too much of my time. I never thought I'd be sitting in the swamps of Morak and commenting on the beauty of the sun eclipsing as it sets under a misty horizon.”
That was a whole lot of "Client is stable". That's very good and will perhaps help on a smooth launch, but that's not what I am saying, I just simple think this game is a bit too outdated technologywise. Again gameplay can cover it all up perhaps, but I am not an optimist considdering that this game looks way worse than WAR.
meh. i really can't comprehend why people put so much stock into the quality of a graphics engine. to me its like splitting hairs over how nice a cake looks but you dont talk about how it tastes. as long as the game doesn't look like 8-bit nintendo, i'm fine. what's important to me is gameplay. nice graphics wow me for about 5 minutes and then i dont even notice it anymore. i notice either that "hey! this game is fun!" or "hey! this is a cheap wow clone thats whole point is to grind all day in one predefined direction with no allowence for creativity!"
to each his own though. sometimes i can stare at something and say "ooh pretty" without caring about the function of it or whether it will please me in the long run. (inference to the type of hot women who can't cook that i date.)
Well it's the funny way things work here, onlinenow225 Things which are typically bad are, in this case, good. And it doesn't just apply to animations. Once you wrap your mind around that particular piece of faux-logic, you'll have much more fun. Oh didn't you hear? Gameplay has been confirmed as being objectively good! Huzzah! To everyone who hasn't been hiding under a rock since UO came out, and has seen positive beta leaks before on games that didn't deliver.... STHU!!!
So.. wait your logic is that something that looks unfun and boring is fun?
Why would I want to invest my time in something that is unattractive and bland looking? No one spends $100,000 on a car thats bland and boring looking. So why would I want to do the same in a game?
Here is a better example. If animations and graphics had no importance at all, why are we not playing MUD's still? (think thats what they are called, before my time)
Now im for gameplay over graphics but graphics are to an extent important. Instead of calling it graphics ill say the artwork is important. You don't go buy a painting for $300 bucks that looks like something your 3 year old niece can do. (maybe some I laugh really hard when I see those)
O Ive read your post a bit more, its a joke nice. And fits very well with my art example.
Anyways serously, can I get a real answer? To whats your name, saying WAR had no gameplay, well it does, and maybe not the best for you and my self included but you completely dodged what I said.
Darkfalls animations are really bad. There is no sence of achully hitting something. You just kinda whif and you hit them I guess. (I watched the video) So why is it this games horrid, I can't even get over it. Bad animations are so overlooked?
Sanbox means nothing if the gameplay is horrible, and attack animations are a very big part of the gameplay.
Lets take an FPS for example. Lets have guns not shoot, and people just seem to randomly die when you press the left mouse button. No sound, no visual recoil, nothing, the gun stays static in one position.
Would you play this FPS?
Now why would you play an MMO with such bland looking attack animations?
large scale wars require crappy graphic. If you played AoC at launch you'd realize this. However, I'm pretty sure that vid is from like 2007
Agree, it requires low polygon graphics but i disagree it's poor graphics cause of that. WoW have low polygon graphics and in that case i totally agree, it's very ugly low polygon graphics.
Darkfalls graphics is so much better then the graphics we see in WoW -
WoW is cartoonish and plain awful. Just look at the WoW sky if you can call that a sky will say.
Have a nice day
You are not getting my point. This game suffers from the Vanguard syndrom. I tell you, nice snapshot but very choppy synthetic animations and worlddynamics....as in poor shadow dynamics (for christ sake a barrel in that vid looked like it was made of plastic), poor 3D feel to landscape, the polygoncount is not all that good (hexagonal Cannons), animations in general just have to few frames pr second (smacks the smoothnes), disasterous little detail to any of the scenes showed in this vid and so on...
Don't get me wrong I admire the idealism in the Darkfall team, and I really hope they are getting something decent in place out of all theitr hard work. And they can if gameplay kicks ass. All I am saying is that this game will probably not change the MMO landscape that much. WOW,LotRO,AoC,WAR, EvE are fierce competitors and I think they will keep leading the industry in whatever direction we are moving.... fortunately or unfortunately depending on what kind of a fanboi you are.
This contradicts what you're saying. Videos isnt reliable at all. You never get the same experience from them as you get ingame looking at your monitor.
Read these judgement on graphics from beta players and you might understand Darkfall is a beatiful world to play in -
The consensus about the graphics is that they’re much better than expected, something we’ve been saying all along. The game has been very stable and smooth overall, even in the full debug mode it’s running in. We’re experiencing really good gameplay from all over the world, even though our beta servers are in Germany, we’ve had no problems reported by testers in Western N. America, or in the Far East.
"The Client is astonishingly stable (except for the Crashes while changing resolutions/graphic settings - though this has got alot better since the last patches too.”
“The meticulously detailed world map is as huge as promised and feels so much more 3-dimensional than past MMORPG's that relied on height mapping. The overpasses, caves, chasms and crags, they add huge amounts of atmosphere to the environment.”
“Only testing for a couple of hours now, but i just have to say, everything looks just so detailed... i am not really into gfx, but i am really amazed on all the things i've seen so far... very impressive...”
“I walked from Chopping Necks (westernmost Ork starter town) to the coast to the east over 2 or 3 hours and NOT ONCE was I bored with repetitive landscape. There is almost always a settlement of goblins, freaky bird-men, hivekin, or something going on, and it's on all sides of you. I swam to an island off the coast, then to a second island. In total, the trip took about 4-5 hours one-way. I explored what looked like ~3% of the total map. Do the math! The world is gigantic!”
“Build 50 is extremely stable. I haven't crashed once and I've been playing a lot of hours. I have found very few bugs.”
“The amount of scaling possible with the graphics is genius. You have more options than ever and they all make sense. You don't have to have an enthusiast-level rig to enjoy df.”
“The graphics scale pretty well apparently. The game looks fine. They need to do some optimization, but everything is running in debug mode and I get 60-90 FPS.”
“From the moment of logging in I was in awe. The world is simply amazing and one cannot describe the intricacies and details of the vast world of Agon. I have never been a visually captivated gamer but I can't help but stop to admire the craftsmanship that formed this virtual world.”
“The world is amazing, I must say. I've only been around the Alfar parts so far - pure awesomesauce there - and every part there feels unique.
I walked around fighting some goblins near one of the starting zones and looked up and thought that the sky looked abit strange, but then realized that it was not the sky that I was looking at, I were inside the mountain and I was looking at a huge cliff that were hanging over me. So you can see that they have spent alot of work shaping the world, which is again, pure awesomesauce.
Climbing mountains feels really cool as well. To stand up there looking down at the world and you get the feeling that you can almost touch the sky.
I've only been around the Alfar parts, but never get bored exploring. The world really is huge, when you look at how long it took to walk from A to B on the map.”
“I wont nit pick for silly things but the game it self ran very smooth I was running at 120-150 ping to the European servers. I only ran across one lag spot as I was running around the land. I love seeing the skill gain system working just from using abilities, it's been to long to see that. I have a high end system but I run on an 8800GT (waiting for release to get my new card) and it still ran smooth.”
“I think there should be more about the quality of the graphics as that was one of the major criticisms made by your detractors. After playing, I honestly think you guys managed to make fools out of them.”
“The client is very stable, haven't had a single crash. The worldbuilding is very good indeed (as other's have noted as well). It looks and feels believable as a world filled with strange creatures, and that you can go wherever you want is really fun.”
“Performance is better than I would have ever imagined on my machine.”
“The graphics are strange in some places and absolutely superb in others. Some stuff like rocks, gardens and books just blew me away with the detail and beauty. Some rocks looked like a photograph while others had some pretty sharp edges to them and didn't look very real. Note that I have not seen much of the world and it is strictly limited to the dwarven starting area.”
“Main thing that has impressed me so far is the quality of the worldbuilding. The people responsible for that really outdid themselves and should be proud of their work. It is sheer delight to go striking out in a random direction and seeing what you can see; both overall settings and nuanced details are superb.”
“Have u ever stop playing, sit back and admire the sunrise or the sunset in ANY other MMO? Darkfall was my first...
Yes the graphics ARE that good”
“Every bit of the music I've heard so far fits the setting it's in, especially the Alfar starting areas and Shoal itself. It's not the typical fantasy MMO style tunes that I had expected but more eerie and dark, sometimes hollow feeling. Even the weird almost digital/ambient-industrial sounding splash screen music is well done and gets you in just the right mood to play.
And the sound effects are everything they should be, from the blocking of a wooden shield, the tinking of metal on metal, the character's vocal grunts and the spattering of blood... on everything. Even when I don't have arrows sticking out of me already, I can tell something is shooting at me and usually from which direction, when I hear the whizzing of an arrow fly past my head.”
“Client is stable and amazing, i've been playing since the MUD/"The Realm"/
UO 97 before T2A (The Second Age) and i've seen bad clients and good clients, ive seen non-stop .exe crashes and memory leaks (shadowbane.exe anyone? lovely memory leak that took over 6+ months to address) to amazing stability (darkfall client) WoW was another well done and stable client, even with all the add-ons that could be attached to the GUI, I also beta tested both WoW and Warhammer, my experience with warhammer was less than satisfying and there graphics aren't as good as people claim they are because for the graphics I receive compared to the performance I
get, to me indicates they did not optimize their graphics/polygons/etc. In closing the Darkfall client does not seem to have any noticeable memory leaks, however cluster loads can seem completely random at times, however are short, 5-15 seconds range = great.”
"The world is massive feeling and as I looked up at the sky I saw the sun moving. The shadows drew closer to me from a tower up on a hillside and I was looking at how the shadow changed as the sun moved. Then I got annihilated by a pack of goblins scouts because I was paying too much attention to the wrong parts of my surroundings."
“I can't give enough credit to the art direction. Everywhere you go, you get a pretty clear "Darkfall" ambience that is truly unique and immersive. There is a lot of attention to detail and you can tell that there was a lot of love put into some of the design. The quality of graphics and animation have a little inconsistency, but overall there is a "wow" factor that I never expected from an MMO that gives you free range over everything. Just watching the sun/moon phases takes up way too much of my time. I never thought I'd be sitting in the swamps of Morak and commenting on the beauty of the sun eclipsing as it sets under a misty horizon.”
That was a whole lot of "Client is stable". That's very good and will perhaps help on a smooth launch, but that's not what I am saying, I just simple think this game is a bit too outdated technologywise. Again gameplay can cover it all up perhaps, but I am not an optimist considdering that this game looks way worse than WAR.
I will not try this game.
I am baffled by comments like this. However, this is assuming you HAVE seen the ADW video and not the 17min video which is sadly outdated from what videos are out now.
To this day i still consider fallout and UFO: Xcom as some of the best games ever. MUCH better than the new sucky sucky fallout. and all the new 3d UFO Xcom games. Good graphics doesnt make a game good or playable. AoC = proof. Just like a nice cinematic trailer: It made me buy the game. It didnt make me renew my subscription. WAR = Proof
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New fallout is all graphics, no gameplay.
UFO, Fallout, Civilization series, Wizardry series and Ishar are in my top 5.
To this day i still consider fallout and UFO: Xcom as some of the best games ever. MUCH better than the new sucky sucky fallout. and all the new 3d UFO Xcom games. Good graphics doesnt make a game good or playable. AoC = proof. Just like a nice cinematic trailer: It made me buy the game. It didnt make me renew my subscription. WAR = Proof
Please for the love of god read the whole thing i posted.
lol no it isn't, its YEARS old. That's alpha footage from ages ago.
I love how many people are quick to jump around going "OOOH LOOK AT THE BAD GRAPHICS!" When in reality, they have no idea what they're looking at. Sounds a lot like all the people yelling "Darkfall doesn't exist!" just because they heard everyone else saying it.
lol no it isn't, its YEARS old. That's alpha footage from ages ago.
I love how many people are quick to jump around going "OOOH LOOK AT THE BAD GRAPHICS!" When in reality, they have no idea what they're looking at. Sounds a lot like all the people yelling "Darkfall doesn't exist!" just because they heard everyone else saying it.
Really, its years old...wow not much has changed compared to the convention video then.
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lol no it isn't, its YEARS old. That's alpha footage from ages ago.
I love how many people are quick to jump around going "OOOH LOOK AT THE BAD GRAPHICS!" When in reality, they have no idea what they're looking at. Sounds a lot like all the people yelling "Darkfall doesn't exist!" just because they heard everyone else saying it.
I was guilty of that until I saw StopidFanboi's post. But before Aragon, a few Darkfall supporters were agreeing that Darkfall had bad graphics. The updated videos certainly displayed great graphics, which means a lot of Darkfall fans (at least on this site) thought the game had horrible graphics too...so they turned to praise the game's gameplay quality over having poor graphics.
Thus...the fault lies on both sides.
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lol no it isn't, its YEARS old. That's alpha footage from ages ago.
I love how many people are quick to jump around going "OOOH LOOK AT THE BAD GRAPHICS!" When in reality, they have no idea what they're looking at. Sounds a lot like all the people yelling "Darkfall doesn't exist!" just because they heard everyone else saying it.
I agree looks awful. But if your going to say its old vid.. that should be real easy to prove. Just saying it is does not make it so. Remember Darkfall does not have tons of money so lol dont expect alot. Just look at Warhammer months before it was launch.. sorry not hugh changes to graphics.
Yet you think Darkfall will with less money less devs? Yeah never no though..
lol no it isn't, its YEARS old. That's alpha footage from ages ago.
I love how many people are quick to jump around going "OOOH LOOK AT THE BAD GRAPHICS!" When in reality, they have no idea what they're looking at. Sounds a lot like all the people yelling "Darkfall doesn't exist!" just because they heard everyone else saying it.
Well um I'm pretty sure I know bad graphics when I see it, animations is what kills DF for me. I'm a animation freak u see, my warrior needs to be swinging his glorious axe at atleast a 40 degree angle at a decent pitch. How else am I supposed to swing around weapons? over and over in the same animations I dont think so mr. ya im bored sue me
That was a whole lot of "Client is stable". That's very good and will perhaps help on a smooth launch, but that's not what I am saying, I just simple think this game is a bit too outdated technologywise. Again gameplay can cover it all up perhaps, but I am not an optimist considdering that this game looks way worse than WAR. I will not try this game.
There isnt a engine out there that do what Aventurines does. They had to create their own cause noone available on the market had what it takes to create Darkfall.
So i'd say Darkfall technology is way ahead of their competitioners on the MMO market.
lol no it isn't, its YEARS old. That's alpha footage from ages ago.
I love how many people are quick to jump around going "OOOH LOOK AT THE BAD GRAPHICS!" When in reality, they have no idea what they're looking at. Sounds a lot like all the people yelling "Darkfall doesn't exist!" just because they heard everyone else saying it.
I agree looks awful. But if your going to say its old vid.. that should be real easy to prove. Just saying it is does not make it so. Remember Darkfall does not have tons of money so lol dont expect alot. Just look at Warhammer months before it was launch.. sorry not hugh changes to graphics.
Yet you think Darkfall will with less money less devs? Yeah never no though..
Are you saying you're going to assume I'm lying?
Why would I pretend that the video is older than it is? That's the first video I ever saw of Darkfall, many years ago. Its what spurred me into researching it. Its old as dirt.
Have you guys seen this stuff!!! www.viddyou.com/viddstream This has to be some of the most choppy animations I have seen since Wolfenstein. My god this stuff looks outdated. I really hope they have gameplay elements in place because they can't score on animations, graphics and the smothness of the experience.
yea the meele comabt where its jerky in them vids isnt here any more now walking and running animation could use improvemeant.
So when WAR's attack animations were choppy and bad it was all bitch and moan. (don't know if they still are) But when the so called god send of all games Darkfall has terrible, I mean terrible animations its okay? How can one game get flamed to all hell, and have a saposive bad launch yet if Darkfall has shitty attack animations its okay. (would call WAR the best launch of any MMO maybe a little above or at least next to LORT) Can anyone shed some light on this to me? I've been watching this game because well, it might be fun to stealth gank people and make someones life a living hell untill they unsubscribe. But, with the mentality of bad animations = okay, then I really hate to see were this game is going. I laughed at jokes about Tasos, how hes a God figure. But really its getting to that point. The fanboys really seem to only think good of this game. Yet the evidence shows that it is not going to be so good.
But anyways can I please be told why horrible I mean worst ive ever seen in a damn video game attack animations in Darkfall is okay, yet in WAR its complete doom and death of the game.
WAR wasn't flammed for having crappy graphics,. although that was some people's complaint. It was flamed for taking WoW BGs and basing a game on it. And WAR is only the "best" launched MMO if you didn't follow it. They removed nearly half the game from beta to launch, something not done in many MMOs (world size reduced, class completly removed to be fixed and added latter, mechanics dumbed down, ect). I guess thats what you have to do when you are published by the evil empire.
So when WAR's attack animations were choppy and bad it was all bitch and moan. (don't know if they still are) But when the so called god send of all games Darkfall has terrible, I mean terrible animations its okay? How can one game get flamed to all hell, and have a saposive bad launch yet if Darkfall has shitty attack animations its okay. (would call WAR the best launch of any MMO maybe a little above or at least next to LORT) Can anyone shed some light on this to me? I've been watching this game because well, it might be fun to stealth gank people and make someones life a living hell untill they unsubscribe. But, with the mentality of bad animations = okay, then I really hate to see were this game is going. I laughed at jokes about Tasos, how hes a God figure. But really its getting to that point. The fanboys really seem to only think good of this game. Yet the evidence shows that it is not going to be so good.
But anyways can I please be told why horrible I mean worst ive ever seen in a damn video game attack animations in Darkfall is okay, yet in WAR its complete doom and death of the game.
WAR wasn't flammed for having crappy graphics,. although that was some people's complaint. It was flamed for taking WoW BGs and basing a game on it. And WAR is only the "best" launched MMO if you didn't follow it. They removed nearly half the game from beta to launch, something not done in many MMOs (world size reduced, class completly removed to be fixed and added latter, mechanics dumbed down, ect). I guess thats what you have to do when you are published by the evil empire.
Better yes but NO.. It sucks, for christ sake look on the combat the 1 us clubswing animations, the riding animation. Look on the shadows virtually painted on the ground. It does not look that good and I still think it looks worse than WAR.
So when WAR's attack animations were choppy and bad it was all bitch and moan. (don't know if they still are) But when the so called god send of all games Darkfall has terrible, I mean terrible animations its okay? How can one game get flamed to all hell, and have a saposive bad launch yet if Darkfall has shitty attack animations its okay. (would call WAR the best launch of any MMO maybe a little above or at least next to LORT) Can anyone shed some light on this to me? I've been watching this game because well, it might be fun to stealth gank people and make someones life a living hell untill they unsubscribe. But, with the mentality of bad animations = okay, then I really hate to see were this game is going. I laughed at jokes about Tasos, how hes a God figure. But really its getting to that point. The fanboys really seem to only think good of this game. Yet the evidence shows that it is not going to be so good.
But anyways can I please be told why horrible I mean worst ive ever seen in a damn video game attack animations in Darkfall is okay, yet in WAR its complete doom and death of the game.
WAR wasn't flammed for having crappy graphics,. although that was some people's complaint. It was flamed for taking WoW BGs and basing a game on it. And WAR is only the "best" launched MMO if you didn't follow it. They removed nearly half the game from beta to launch, something not done in many MMOs (world size reduced, class completly removed to be fixed and added latter, mechanics dumbed down, ect). I guess thats what you have to do when you are published by the evil empire.
Better yes but NO.. It sucks, for christ sake look on the combat the 1 us clubswing animations, the riding animation. Look on the shadows virtually painted on the ground. It does not look that good and I still think it looks worse than WAR.
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Darkfall will look like the best Darkfall screenshots onscreen. This is confirmed. I can bring you screenshots all day and compare Darkfall and WoW screenies and WoW will loose everytime. I think it's fun that a small Indy company like Aventurine seems to top a large dragon company as Blizzard both in graphics and gameplay. That you dont see every day, do you?
LOL
This might have more punch, or any punch at all, if WoW hadn't come out over 4 years ago. As for gameplay, well we can make all the subjective arguments we like but the only thing that won't lie are numbers. Which is pretty moot as well, seeing as how they're two completely different and very nearly incomparable types of games.
Yup, you one at that one. The graphics of WoW have stayed that way because people have attached to them. Plus a massive graphic overhaul would cut on their sub numbers.
Furthermore, most MMO' companies now adays are coming out with better graphics, but sometimes are not optimized enough.
We'll see however, since there are quite a few working on high end graphics for MMO's such as SGW, Huxley, and Earthrise.
Yet...they still get forced to dumb down the graphics. Look at SGW, it was amazing on the 3d in-engine concepts, but the later screens have been WoW'd to an effect.
Good. The crapier the better. If you want pretty then go play some AoC with the rest of the kids.
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So when WAR's attack animations were choppy and bad it was all bitch and moan. (don't know if they still are)
But when the so called god send of all games Darkfall has terrible, I mean terrible animations its okay? How can one game get flamed to all hell, and have a saposive bad launch yet if Darkfall has shitty attack animations its okay. (would call WAR the best launch of any MMO maybe a little above or at least next to LORT)
Can anyone shed some light on this to me? I've been watching this game because well, it might be fun to stealth gank people and make someones life a living hell untill they unsubscribe. But, with the mentality of bad animations = okay, then I really hate to see were this game is going.
I laughed at jokes about Tasos, how hes a God figure. But really its getting to that point. The fanboys really seem to only think good of this game. Yet the evidence shows that it is not going to be so good.
But anyways can I please be told why horrible I mean worst ive ever seen in a damn video game attack animations in Darkfall is okay, yet in WAR its complete doom and death of the game.
WAR didnt have any gameplay worth the name as i see it.
I can live with not that good animations if gameplay is good. A huge difference.
The "evidence" of both confirmed and leaked information tells us that Darkfall will be a hell of a game.
Well, again...there's a big graphical difference between the OP's video and StopidFanboi's video. As for gameplay, (almost) every MMO is unique in their own way so you can't really say a certain MMO has better gameplay than another. The correct saying would be "I like/prefer this MMO's gameplay over the other".
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Agree, it requires low polygon graphics but i disagree it's poor graphics cause of that. WoW have low polygon graphics and in that case i totally agree, it's very ugly low polygon graphics.
Darkfalls graphics is so much better then the graphics we see in WoW -
WoW is cartoonish and plain awful. Just look at the WoW sky if you can call that a sky will say.
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You are not getting my point. This game suffers from the Vanguard syndrom. I tell you, nice snapshot but very choppy synthetic animations and worlddynamics....as in poor shadow dynamics (for christ sake a barrel in that vid looked like it was made of plastic), poor 3D feel to landscape, the polygoncount is not all that good (hexagonal Cannons), animations in general just have to few frames pr second (smacks the smoothnes), disasterous little detail to any of the scenes showed in this vid and so on...
Don't get me wrong I admire the idealism in the Darkfall team, and I really hope they are getting something decent in place out of all theitr hard work. And they can if gameplay kicks ass. All I am saying is that this game will probably not change the MMO landscape that much. WOW,LotRO,AoC,WAR, EvE are fierce competitors and I think they will keep leading the industry in whatever direction we are moving.... fortunately or unfortunately depending on what kind of a fanboi you are.
This contradicts what you're saying. Videos isnt reliable at all. You never get the same experience from them as you get ingame looking at your monitor.
Read these judgement on graphics from beta players and you might understand Darkfall is a beatiful world to play in -
http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=82111
Tasos
Darkfall Developer
The World-Graphics-Technology
The consensus about the graphics is that they’re much better than expected, something we’ve been saying all along. The game has been very stable and smooth overall, even in the full debug mode it’s running in. We’re experiencing really good gameplay from all over the world, even though our beta servers are in Germany, we’ve had no problems reported by testers in Western N. America, or in the Far East.
"The Client is astonishingly stable (except for the Crashes while changing resolutions/graphic settings - though this has got alot better since the last patches too.”
“The meticulously detailed world map is as huge as promised and feels so much more 3-dimensional than past MMORPG's that relied on height mapping. The overpasses, caves, chasms and crags, they add huge amounts of atmosphere to the environment.”
“Only testing for a couple of hours now, but i just have to say, everything looks just so detailed... i am not really into gfx, but i am really amazed on all the things i've seen so far... very impressive...”
“I walked from Chopping Necks (westernmost Ork starter town) to the coast to the east over 2 or 3 hours and NOT ONCE was I bored with repetitive landscape. There is almost always a settlement of goblins, freaky bird-men, hivekin, or something going on, and it's on all sides of you. I swam to an island off the coast, then to a second island. In total, the trip took about 4-5 hours one-way. I explored what looked like ~3% of the total map. Do the math! The world is gigantic!”
“Build 50 is extremely stable. I haven't crashed once and I've been playing a lot of hours. I have found very few bugs.”
“The amount of scaling possible with the graphics is genius. You have more options than ever and they all make sense. You don't have to have an enthusiast-level rig to enjoy df.”
“The graphics scale pretty well apparently. The game looks fine. They need to do some optimization, but everything is running in debug mode and I get 60-90 FPS.”
“From the moment of logging in I was in awe. The world is simply amazing and one cannot describe the intricacies and details of the vast world of Agon. I have never been a visually captivated gamer but I can't help but stop to admire the craftsmanship that formed this virtual world.”
“The world is amazing, I must say. I've only been around the Alfar parts so far - pure awesomesauce there - and every part there feels unique.
I walked around fighting some goblins near one of the starting zones and looked up and thought that the sky looked abit strange, but then realized that it was not the sky that I was looking at, I were inside the mountain and I was looking at a huge cliff that were hanging over me. So you can see that they have spent alot of work shaping the world, which is again, pure awesomesauce.
Climbing mountains feels really cool as well. To stand up there looking down at the world and you get the feeling that you can almost touch the sky.
I've only been around the Alfar parts, but never get bored exploring. The world really is huge, when you look at how long it took to walk from A to B on the map.”
“I wont nit pick for silly things but the game it self ran very smooth I was running at 120-150 ping to the European servers. I only ran across one lag spot as I was running around the land. I love seeing the skill gain system working just from using abilities, it's been to long to see that. I have a high end system but I run on an 8800GT (waiting for release to get my new card) and it still ran smooth.”
“I think there should be more about the quality of the graphics as that was one of the major criticisms made by your detractors. After playing, I honestly think you guys managed to make fools out of them.”
“The client is very stable, haven't had a single crash. The worldbuilding is very good indeed (as other's have noted as well). It looks and feels believable as a world filled with strange creatures, and that you can go wherever you want is really fun.”
“Performance is better than I would have ever imagined on my machine.”
“The graphics are strange in some places and absolutely superb in others. Some stuff like rocks, gardens and books just blew me away with the detail and beauty. Some rocks looked like a photograph while others had some pretty sharp edges to them and didn't look very real. Note that I have not seen much of the world and it is strictly limited to the dwarven starting area.”
“Main thing that has impressed me so far is the quality of the worldbuilding. The people responsible for that really outdid themselves and should be proud of their work. It is sheer delight to go striking out in a random direction and seeing what you can see; both overall settings and nuanced details are superb.”
“Have u ever stop playing, sit back and admire the sunrise or the sunset in ANY other MMO? Darkfall was my first...
Yes the graphics ARE that good”
“Every bit of the music I've heard so far fits the setting it's in, especially the Alfar starting areas and Shoal itself. It's not the typical fantasy MMO style tunes that I had expected but more eerie and dark, sometimes hollow feeling. Even the weird almost digital/ambient-industrial sounding splash screen music is well done and gets you in just the right mood to play.
And the sound effects are everything they should be, from the blocking of a wooden shield, the tinking of metal on metal, the character's vocal grunts and the spattering of blood... on everything. Even when I don't have arrows sticking out of me already, I can tell something is shooting at me and usually from which direction, when I hear the whizzing of an arrow fly past my head.”
“Client is stable and amazing, i've been playing since the MUD/"The Realm"/
UO 97 before T2A (The Second Age) and i've seen bad clients and good clients, ive seen non-stop .exe crashes and memory leaks (shadowbane.exe anyone? lovely memory leak that took over 6+ months to address) to amazing stability (darkfall client) WoW was another well done and stable client, even with all the add-ons that could be attached to the GUI, I also beta tested both WoW and Warhammer, my experience with warhammer was less than satisfying and there graphics aren't as good as people claim they are because for the graphics I receive compared to the performance I
get, to me indicates they did not optimize their graphics/polygons/etc. In closing the Darkfall client does not seem to have any noticeable memory leaks, however cluster loads can seem completely random at times, however are short, 5-15 seconds range = great.”
"The world is massive feeling and as I looked up at the sky I saw the sun moving. The shadows drew closer to me from a tower up on a hillside and I was looking at how the shadow changed as the sun moved. Then I got annihilated by a pack of goblins scouts because I was paying too much attention to the wrong parts of my surroundings."
“I can't give enough credit to the art direction. Everywhere you go, you get a pretty clear "Darkfall" ambience that is truly unique and immersive. There is a lot of attention to detail and you can tell that there was a lot of love put into some of the design. The quality of graphics and animation have a little inconsistency, but overall there is a "wow" factor that I never expected from an MMO that gives you free range over everything. Just watching the sun/moon phases takes up way too much of my time. I never thought I'd be sitting in the swamps of Morak and commenting on the beauty of the sun eclipsing as it sets under a misty horizon.”
That was a whole lot of "Client is stable". That's very good and will perhaps help on a smooth launch, but that's not what I am saying, I just simple think this game is a bit too outdated technologywise. Again gameplay can cover it all up perhaps, but I am not an optimist considdering that this game looks way worse than WAR.
I will not try this game.
meh. i really can't comprehend why people put so much stock into the quality of a graphics engine. to me its like splitting hairs over how nice a cake looks but you dont talk about how it tastes. as long as the game doesn't look like 8-bit nintendo, i'm fine. what's important to me is gameplay. nice graphics wow me for about 5 minutes and then i dont even notice it anymore. i notice either that "hey! this game is fun!" or "hey! this is a cheap wow clone thats whole point is to grind all day in one predefined direction with no allowence for creativity!"
to each his own though. sometimes i can stare at something and say "ooh pretty" without caring about the function of it or whether it will please me in the long run. (inference to the type of hot women who can't cook that i date.)
So.. wait your logic is that something that looks unfun and boring is fun?
Why would I want to invest my time in something that is unattractive and bland looking? No one spends $100,000 on a car thats bland and boring looking. So why would I want to do the same in a game?
Here is a better example. If animations and graphics had no importance at all, why are we not playing MUD's still? (think thats what they are called, before my time)
Now im for gameplay over graphics but graphics are to an extent important. Instead of calling it graphics ill say the artwork is important. You don't go buy a painting for $300 bucks that looks like something your 3 year old niece can do. (maybe some I laugh really hard when I see those)
O Ive read your post a bit more, its a joke nice. And fits very well with my art example.
Anyways serously, can I get a real answer? To whats your name, saying WAR had no gameplay, well it does, and maybe not the best for you and my self included but you completely dodged what I said.
Darkfalls animations are really bad. There is no sence of achully hitting something. You just kinda whif and you hit them I guess. (I watched the video) So why is it this games horrid, I can't even get over it. Bad animations are so overlooked?
Sanbox means nothing if the gameplay is horrible, and attack animations are a very big part of the gameplay.
Lets take an FPS for example. Lets have guns not shoot, and people just seem to randomly die when you press the left mouse button. No sound, no visual recoil, nothing, the gun stays static in one position.
Would you play this FPS?
Now why would you play an MMO with such bland looking attack animations?
Agree, it requires low polygon graphics but i disagree it's poor graphics cause of that. WoW have low polygon graphics and in that case i totally agree, it's very ugly low polygon graphics.
Darkfalls graphics is so much better then the graphics we see in WoW -
WoW is cartoonish and plain awful. Just look at the WoW sky if you can call that a sky will say.
Have a nice day
You are not getting my point. This game suffers from the Vanguard syndrom. I tell you, nice snapshot but very choppy synthetic animations and worlddynamics....as in poor shadow dynamics (for christ sake a barrel in that vid looked like it was made of plastic), poor 3D feel to landscape, the polygoncount is not all that good (hexagonal Cannons), animations in general just have to few frames pr second (smacks the smoothnes), disasterous little detail to any of the scenes showed in this vid and so on...
Don't get me wrong I admire the idealism in the Darkfall team, and I really hope they are getting something decent in place out of all theitr hard work. And they can if gameplay kicks ass. All I am saying is that this game will probably not change the MMO landscape that much. WOW,LotRO,AoC,WAR, EvE are fierce competitors and I think they will keep leading the industry in whatever direction we are moving.... fortunately or unfortunately depending on what kind of a fanboi you are.
This contradicts what you're saying. Videos isnt reliable at all. You never get the same experience from them as you get ingame looking at your monitor.
Read these judgement on graphics from beta players and you might understand Darkfall is a beatiful world to play in -
http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=82111
Tasos
Darkfall Developer
The World-Graphics-Technology
The consensus about the graphics is that they’re much better than expected, something we’ve been saying all along. The game has been very stable and smooth overall, even in the full debug mode it’s running in. We’re experiencing really good gameplay from all over the world, even though our beta servers are in Germany, we’ve had no problems reported by testers in Western N. America, or in the Far East.
"The Client is astonishingly stable (except for the Crashes while changing resolutions/graphic settings - though this has got alot better since the last patches too.”
“The meticulously detailed world map is as huge as promised and feels so much more 3-dimensional than past MMORPG's that relied on height mapping. The overpasses, caves, chasms and crags, they add huge amounts of atmosphere to the environment.”
“Only testing for a couple of hours now, but i just have to say, everything looks just so detailed... i am not really into gfx, but i am really amazed on all the things i've seen so far... very impressive...”
“I walked from Chopping Necks (westernmost Ork starter town) to the coast to the east over 2 or 3 hours and NOT ONCE was I bored with repetitive landscape. There is almost always a settlement of goblins, freaky bird-men, hivekin, or something going on, and it's on all sides of you. I swam to an island off the coast, then to a second island. In total, the trip took about 4-5 hours one-way. I explored what looked like ~3% of the total map. Do the math! The world is gigantic!”
“Build 50 is extremely stable. I haven't crashed once and I've been playing a lot of hours. I have found very few bugs.”
“The amount of scaling possible with the graphics is genius. You have more options than ever and they all make sense. You don't have to have an enthusiast-level rig to enjoy df.”
“The graphics scale pretty well apparently. The game looks fine. They need to do some optimization, but everything is running in debug mode and I get 60-90 FPS.”
“From the moment of logging in I was in awe. The world is simply amazing and one cannot describe the intricacies and details of the vast world of Agon. I have never been a visually captivated gamer but I can't help but stop to admire the craftsmanship that formed this virtual world.”
“The world is amazing, I must say. I've only been around the Alfar parts so far - pure awesomesauce there - and every part there feels unique.
I walked around fighting some goblins near one of the starting zones and looked up and thought that the sky looked abit strange, but then realized that it was not the sky that I was looking at, I were inside the mountain and I was looking at a huge cliff that were hanging over me. So you can see that they have spent alot of work shaping the world, which is again, pure awesomesauce.
Climbing mountains feels really cool as well. To stand up there looking down at the world and you get the feeling that you can almost touch the sky.
I've only been around the Alfar parts, but never get bored exploring. The world really is huge, when you look at how long it took to walk from A to B on the map.”
“I wont nit pick for silly things but the game it self ran very smooth I was running at 120-150 ping to the European servers. I only ran across one lag spot as I was running around the land. I love seeing the skill gain system working just from using abilities, it's been to long to see that. I have a high end system but I run on an 8800GT (waiting for release to get my new card) and it still ran smooth.”
“I think there should be more about the quality of the graphics as that was one of the major criticisms made by your detractors. After playing, I honestly think you guys managed to make fools out of them.”
“The client is very stable, haven't had a single crash. The worldbuilding is very good indeed (as other's have noted as well). It looks and feels believable as a world filled with strange creatures, and that you can go wherever you want is really fun.”
“Performance is better than I would have ever imagined on my machine.”
“The graphics are strange in some places and absolutely superb in others. Some stuff like rocks, gardens and books just blew me away with the detail and beauty. Some rocks looked like a photograph while others had some pretty sharp edges to them and didn't look very real. Note that I have not seen much of the world and it is strictly limited to the dwarven starting area.”
“Main thing that has impressed me so far is the quality of the worldbuilding. The people responsible for that really outdid themselves and should be proud of their work. It is sheer delight to go striking out in a random direction and seeing what you can see; both overall settings and nuanced details are superb.”
“Have u ever stop playing, sit back and admire the sunrise or the sunset in ANY other MMO? Darkfall was my first...
Yes the graphics ARE that good”
“Every bit of the music I've heard so far fits the setting it's in, especially the Alfar starting areas and Shoal itself. It's not the typical fantasy MMO style tunes that I had expected but more eerie and dark, sometimes hollow feeling. Even the weird almost digital/ambient-industrial sounding splash screen music is well done and gets you in just the right mood to play.
And the sound effects are everything they should be, from the blocking of a wooden shield, the tinking of metal on metal, the character's vocal grunts and the spattering of blood... on everything. Even when I don't have arrows sticking out of me already, I can tell something is shooting at me and usually from which direction, when I hear the whizzing of an arrow fly past my head.”
“Client is stable and amazing, i've been playing since the MUD/"The Realm"/
UO 97 before T2A (The Second Age) and i've seen bad clients and good clients, ive seen non-stop .exe crashes and memory leaks (shadowbane.exe anyone? lovely memory leak that took over 6+ months to address) to amazing stability (darkfall client) WoW was another well done and stable client, even with all the add-ons that could be attached to the GUI, I also beta tested both WoW and Warhammer, my experience with warhammer was less than satisfying and there graphics aren't as good as people claim they are because for the graphics I receive compared to the performance I
get, to me indicates they did not optimize their graphics/polygons/etc. In closing the Darkfall client does not seem to have any noticeable memory leaks, however cluster loads can seem completely random at times, however are short, 5-15 seconds range = great.”
"The world is massive feeling and as I looked up at the sky I saw the sun moving. The shadows drew closer to me from a tower up on a hillside and I was looking at how the shadow changed as the sun moved. Then I got annihilated by a pack of goblins scouts because I was paying too much attention to the wrong parts of my surroundings."
“I can't give enough credit to the art direction. Everywhere you go, you get a pretty clear "Darkfall" ambience that is truly unique and immersive. There is a lot of attention to detail and you can tell that there was a lot of love put into some of the design. The quality of graphics and animation have a little inconsistency, but overall there is a "wow" factor that I never expected from an MMO that gives you free range over everything. Just watching the sun/moon phases takes up way too much of my time. I never thought I'd be sitting in the swamps of Morak and commenting on the beauty of the sun eclipsing as it sets under a misty horizon.”
That was a whole lot of "Client is stable". That's very good and will perhaps help on a smooth launch, but that's not what I am saying, I just simple think this game is a bit too outdated technologywise. Again gameplay can cover it all up perhaps, but I am not an optimist considdering that this game looks way worse than WAR.
I will not try this game.
I am baffled by comments like this. However, this is assuming you HAVE seen the ADW video and not the 17min video which is sadly outdated from what videos are out now.
To this day i still consider fallout and UFO: Xcom as some of the best games ever.
MUCH better than the new sucky sucky fallout. and all the new 3d UFO Xcom games.
Good graphics doesnt make a game good or playable. AoC = proof.
Just like a nice cinematic trailer: It made me buy the game. It didnt make me renew my subscription. WAR = Proof
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New fallout is all graphics, no gameplay.
UFO, Fallout, Civilization series, Wizardry series and Ishar are in my top 5.
Please for the love of god read the whole thing i posted.
lol no it isn't, its YEARS old. That's alpha footage from ages ago.
I love how many people are quick to jump around going "OOOH LOOK AT THE BAD GRAPHICS!" When in reality, they have no idea what they're looking at. Sounds a lot like all the people yelling "Darkfall doesn't exist!" just because they heard everyone else saying it.
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lol no it isn't, its YEARS old. That's alpha footage from ages ago.
I love how many people are quick to jump around going "OOOH LOOK AT THE BAD GRAPHICS!" When in reality, they have no idea what they're looking at. Sounds a lot like all the people yelling "Darkfall doesn't exist!" just because they heard everyone else saying it.
Really, its years old...wow not much has changed compared to the convention video then.
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lol no it isn't, its YEARS old. That's alpha footage from ages ago.
I love how many people are quick to jump around going "OOOH LOOK AT THE BAD GRAPHICS!" When in reality, they have no idea what they're looking at. Sounds a lot like all the people yelling "Darkfall doesn't exist!" just because they heard everyone else saying it.
I was guilty of that until I saw StopidFanboi's post. But before Aragon, a few Darkfall supporters were agreeing that Darkfall had bad graphics. The updated videos certainly displayed great graphics, which means a lot of Darkfall fans (at least on this site) thought the game had horrible graphics too...so they turned to praise the game's gameplay quality over having poor graphics.
Thus...the fault lies on both sides.
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lol no it isn't, its YEARS old. That's alpha footage from ages ago.
I love how many people are quick to jump around going "OOOH LOOK AT THE BAD GRAPHICS!" When in reality, they have no idea what they're looking at. Sounds a lot like all the people yelling "Darkfall doesn't exist!" just because they heard everyone else saying it.
I agree looks awful. But if your going to say its old vid.. that should be real easy to prove. Just saying it is does not make it so. Remember Darkfall does not have tons of money so lol dont expect alot. Just look at Warhammer months before it was launch.. sorry not hugh changes to graphics.
Yet you think Darkfall will with less money less devs? Yeah never no though..
lol no it isn't, its YEARS old. That's alpha footage from ages ago.
I love how many people are quick to jump around going "OOOH LOOK AT THE BAD GRAPHICS!" When in reality, they have no idea what they're looking at. Sounds a lot like all the people yelling "Darkfall doesn't exist!" just because they heard everyone else saying it.
Well um I'm pretty sure I know bad graphics when I see it, animations is what kills DF for me. I'm a animation freak u see, my warrior needs to be swinging his glorious axe at atleast a 40 degree angle at a decent pitch. How else am I supposed to swing around weapons? over and over in the same animations I dont think so mr. ya im bored sue me
There isnt a engine out there that do what Aventurines does. They had to create their own cause noone available on the market had what it takes to create Darkfall.
So i'd say Darkfall technology is way ahead of their competitioners on the MMO market.
Fine, noone is forcing you to play Darkfall.
People need to look at the fine details of the vid, not the overall picture.
The ADW video kills the 17min in graphics when it comes to certain elements.
lol no it isn't, its YEARS old. That's alpha footage from ages ago.
I love how many people are quick to jump around going "OOOH LOOK AT THE BAD GRAPHICS!" When in reality, they have no idea what they're looking at. Sounds a lot like all the people yelling "Darkfall doesn't exist!" just because they heard everyone else saying it.
I agree looks awful. But if your going to say its old vid.. that should be real easy to prove. Just saying it is does not make it so. Remember Darkfall does not have tons of money so lol dont expect alot. Just look at Warhammer months before it was launch.. sorry not hugh changes to graphics.
Yet you think Darkfall will with less money less devs? Yeah never no though..
Are you saying you're going to assume I'm lying?
Why would I pretend that the video is older than it is? That's the first video I ever saw of Darkfall, many years ago. Its what spurred me into researching it. Its old as dirt.
Darkfall Travelogues!
yea the meele comabt where its jerky in them vids isnt here any more now walking and running animation could use improvemeant.
plsu the gfx dont look all like that any more
WAR wasn't flammed for having crappy graphics,. although that was some people's complaint. It was flamed for taking WoW BGs and basing a game on it. And WAR is only the "best" launched MMO if you didn't follow it. They removed nearly half the game from beta to launch, something not done in many MMOs (world size reduced, class completly removed to be fixed and added latter, mechanics dumbed down, ect). I guess thats what you have to do when you are published by the evil empire.
Edit: This is the most recent video of the game. http://www.viddyou.com/viddstream?videoid=43966
much better than the vid found by the OP
Game looks launch ready to me
Games:
Currently playing:Nothing
Will play: Darkfall: Unholy Wars
Past games:
Guild Wars 2 - Xpiher Duminous
Xpiher's GW2
GW 1 - Xpiher Duminous
Darkfall - Xpiher Duminous (NA) retired
AoC - Xpiher (Tyranny) retired
Warhammer - Xpiher
WAR wasn't flammed for having crappy graphics,. although that was some people's complaint. It was flamed for taking WoW BGs and basing a game on it. And WAR is only the "best" launched MMO if you didn't follow it. They removed nearly half the game from beta to launch, something not done in many MMOs (world size reduced, class completly removed to be fixed and added latter, mechanics dumbed down, ect). I guess thats what you have to do when you are published by the evil empire.
Edit: This is the most recent video of the game. http://www.viddyou.com/viddstream?videoid=43966
much better than the vid found by the OP
Game looks launch ready to me
Better yes but NO.. It sucks, for christ sake look on the combat the 1 us clubswing animations, the riding animation. Look on the shadows virtually painted on the ground. It does not look that good and I still think it looks worse than WAR.
WAR wasn't flammed for having crappy graphics,. although that was some people's complaint. It was flamed for taking WoW BGs and basing a game on it. And WAR is only the "best" launched MMO if you didn't follow it. They removed nearly half the game from beta to launch, something not done in many MMOs (world size reduced, class completly removed to be fixed and added latter, mechanics dumbed down, ect). I guess thats what you have to do when you are published by the evil empire.
Edit: This is the most recent video of the game. http://www.viddyou.com/viddstream?videoid=43966
much better than the vid found by the OP
Game looks launch ready to me
Better yes but NO.. It sucks, for christ sake look on the combat the 1 us clubswing animations, the riding animation. Look on the shadows virtually painted on the ground. It does not look that good and I still think it looks worse than WAR.
Which video are you looking at?
Haha that's exactly what I think.