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Mwaji
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On kicking the crap out of WoW thier latest expansion was epic failure you guys are booming.
I have not played the game much I'm more of a PvP fanatic but keep up the good work, I keep hearing how good the latest expansion is, almost want to jump in for a few weeks to see it.
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Yes trully kicked Blizzard ass i see.
It's easily the highest rated expansion this year where WOTLK is easliy the worst expansion since AOS, I don't see the contest.
It depends on who you ask to be honest.
If you ask the WoW fans all they talk about is how much money WoW made and the 11 million subs it has.
If you talk to anyone else they will tell you Lotro is a better game, to bad its a Niche Pve game though.
If Lotro had pvp (real pvp) wow would have been owned cause Lotro does WoW better then WoW lol
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First of all, I just want to say im very happy with the results, and im really enjoying this new expansion.
That said, I think blizzard did a good job with Wrath, creating some pretty good quality gaming. Its not so much that what they created was bad, its just that people are getting bored of the blizzard model of things (the gear treadmill as I like to refer to it as)
Wolfenpride: <--Giant fucking sword syndrome.
Probably cause im trying to compensate for miniscule manhood.
I think both MoM and Wotlk seems like very good expansions and the players is overall happy and the reviews are very good for both! I think MoM is more impresive since its made by a small company for a small playersbase compared to WoW.
If WoW = The Beatles
and WAR = Led Zeppelin
Then LotrO = Pink Floyd
It's easily the highest rated expansion this year where WOTLK is easliy the worst expansion since AOS, I don't see the contest.
Yea buddy we can just brush aside the fact that WOTLK got higher ratings in everything from sales to gameplay. Try again
Not bashing the game its pretty good but to say its pve content is better than WoW's is like saying OJ really didn't kill his wife.......
It's easily the highest rated expansion this year where WOTLK is easliy the worst expansion since AOS, I don't see the contest.
www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/pc/lordoftheringsonlineminesofmoria
Average MoM score: 8.6
www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/pc/worldofwarcraftwrathofthelichking
Average WotLK score: 9.1
WotLK sold 2.8 million copies in 24 hours, which is probably about 10 times Lotro's entire subscribtion base.
I'm sure Blizzard is currently crying in a corner over their defeat, asking themselves how this could have happened.
It's easily the highest rated expansion this year where WOTLK is easliy the worst expansion since AOS, I don't see the contest.
Yea buddy we can just brush aside the fact that WOTLK got higher ratings in everything from sales to gameplay. Try again
Not bashing the game its pretty good but to say its pve content is better than WoW's is like saying OJ really didn't kill his wife.......
Matter of opinion, I find LOTRO PvE superior to WoW hamster wheel gear grind ad infinitum.
I don't really care to discuss it in detail as WoW certainly had its merits and I used to play it. However the fact reamins that a fantasy PvE oriented MMO prospered to a degree, along with some others, on what vis ocnsidred WoW's home turf.
It's easily the highest rated expansion this year where WOTLK is easliy the worst expansion since AOS, I don't see the contest.
www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/pc/lordoftheringsonlineminesofmoria
Average MoM score: 8.6
www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/pc/worldofwarcraftwrathofthelichking
Average WotLK score: 9.1
WotLK sold 2.8 million copies in 24 hours, which is probably about 10 times Lotro's entire subscribtion base.
I'm sure Blizzard is currently crying in a corner over their defeat, asking themselves how this could have happened.
Yes, let us forget that Turbine vs Blizzard (Vivendi) is size-wise like China versus a Sweden. Not really surprising that China is more powerful although Sweden does very well in its own category. Matter of perspective, not to mention that WoW is MMO anomaly.
It's easily the highest rated expansion this year where WOTLK is easliy the worst expansion since AOS, I don't see the contest.
www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/pc/lordoftheringsonlineminesofmoria
Average MoM score: 8.6
www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/pc/worldofwarcraftwrathofthelichking
Average WotLK score: 9.1
WotLK sold 2.8 million copies in 24 hours, which is probably about 10 times Lotro's entire subscribtion base.
I'm sure Blizzard is currently crying in a corner over their defeat, asking themselves how this could have happened.
Yes, let us forget that Turbine vs Blizzard (Vivendi) is size-wise like China versus a Sweden. Not really surprising that China is more powerful although Sweden does very well in its own category. Matter of perspective, not to mention that WoW is MMO anomaly.
What does their size have to do with anything?
What does their size have to do with anything?
Size has a lot to do with how well an MMO can do. Blizzard has a ton more resources than Turbine has, allowing them to do a lot more that Turbine simply cannot. It's amazing that Turbine has produced such a good MMO despite the competition they were up against.
As far as the two expansions go, I can only comment on WotLK. I can easily say that I experienced all the expansion had to offer within 4-5 weeks of its release, and I can only play 2 hours a day on most days. The raid content is easy, the PvP is laughable at best, and the community continues to get worse every single day.
I'll comment on MoM after I have reached that part in the game, but so far I agree with one of the above posters: LOTRO does WoW better than WoW ever did. If Turbine actually decides to focus on balancing Monster Play, LOTRO could easily be seen as better than WoW in every single way.
What does their size have to do with anything?
Size has a lot to do with how well an MMO can do. Blizzard has a ton more resources than Turbine has, allowing them to do a lot more that Turbine simply cannot. It's amazing that Turbine has produced such a good MMO despite the competition they were up against.
Yes, but here is the reality. Turbine does more updates, adds more free content and features than ANYTHING BLIZZARD HAS EVER DONE.
Blizzard my have the larger player base, but Turbine puts out more free content, and additions to its game, faster, more polished, and more frequently than any other dev house out there.
Think on that.
Also, welcome to LOTRO.
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Except the combat in WoW is 10x better than Lotro where everything is on next attack, and you have to wait for the server queue to start everything... even casting spells...
I honestly don't care who's ass the game kicks, I just wish more people would check it out and appreciate it for what it is...a very fun and immersive fantasy mmo that's PVE driven.
A couple of points...
About combat being worse in Lotro - fewer instant spells is easier to balance around. Large numbers of insts-casts can cause burst issues which are hard to develop around. It also fits the culture of the game much better. Lotro is a causal story / lore, pve based game; not fps (twitch based) replacement.
Second, contrary to opinion and popular belief, WoW was not and is not an anomaly. Maybe I'll make a blog post about this someday but WoW was released A) at the exactly right time,
with a compelling IP, C) able to play on any computer and D) a generous and varied new player experience (6 starter zones and 9 classes at release).
it was/is the perfect Storm to attract new players. A large portion of gamers were unhappy with EQ at the time and looking for something new. RTS's were very popular and Starcraft (and Warcraft to a lesser degree) were at it's pinnacle which attracted more new players.
WoW than won out over EQ2 (and subsequent mmo's at release) because you could literally play it on almost any computer. Think about Vanguard at BC's release and most recently AoC and Warhammer at Wrath's. In many ways playability wins out over graphics for large volumes of customers.
Now Lotro is a great game that will play on almost any computer and is a very compelling IP, I won't argue that, but both the original and MoM xpack were released within a month of 1,000 ton gorilla's xpacks (BC and Wrath) which is terrible timing. In the movie industry, studio's generally try not to compete with one another when it comes to must see movies.
I have no interest in exploring Lotro's classes or starting area's versus WoW's, but I will stat the facts.... 3 vs. 8 in starter zones and 7 vs. 9 i classes (with WoW having an edge in variation on how the classes can be played). Note referring to the point at which Lotro was released since that was most crucial to it's success.
Currently Playing: GW2
Retired: Shadowbane, DAoC, WoW, FFXI, Eve Online, SWToR
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People play WoW so they can go OMG OMG I'm playing the game as so many other people! They're compensating for something.
PnHoobit while I respect your opinion, I'd rather not see the LOTRO forums degenerate in to mud slinging. Please unless you have a point that truly adds to the conversation, please keep it to yourself. I'm still on the fence about coming back to LOTRO from a long break and would rather not be left with such a sour impression of th community (i.e. tellig me I'm lacking between the legs).
Martie...
While I have to agree with you about the facts, I do believe the amount of content pushed through in patches over the years is left more so for debate.
Just comparing BC-WOW to LOTRO (since their of comparable time frames)....
BC-WOW --------------------------------
- 2 rep gindable factions
- Arena
- Daily quests
- 1 new zone
- 3 raid zones, 1 5man dungeon (kara, SSC and TK were actually completed at release)
LOTRO --------------------------------
- Housing
- Daily Quests
- complete overhaul of Monsterplay
- 2 or 2.5 new zones?
- 3 raids, 2 5man dungeons
- musical instruments
- alternative armor
- continuation of main storyline (100 or so new quests)
In Blizzards defense though most if not all of their time was spent balancing all 27 specs around pvp (arena) which Turbine cares little about. At the end of the day I would have to say they put out pretty close to the same amount of content.
The argument about the size of their respective development teams is mute since the size of their core designers and programmers are actually pretty close where as the art team for Blizzard (3d and conceptual) really make up the difference. If blizzard really operated with tons of developers as people like to believe, there would be far too much turmoil and inner division as to how the game should be made.
I wishe everyone would realize both games really are very well made with tons of content and that Blizzard isn't the evil empire people like to make them out ot be while Turbine (ever since after AC2) are a really fine developer, and are continually on the bleeding edge of new ideas.
Currently Playing: GW2
Retired: Shadowbane, DAoC, WoW, FFXI, Eve Online, SWToR
The Aphelion MMO Blog - GW2 Initial Impressions
What does their size have to do with anything?
Size has a lot to do with how well an MMO can do. Blizzard has a ton more resources than Turbine has, allowing them to do a lot more that Turbine simply cannot. It's amazing that Turbine has produced such a good MMO despite the competition they were up against.
As far as the two expansions go, I can only comment on WotLK. I can easily say that I experienced all the expansion had to offer within 4-5 weeks of its release, and I can only play 2 hours a day on most days. The raid content is easy, the PvP is laughable at best, and the community continues to get worse every single day.
I'll comment on MoM after I have reached that part in the game, but so far I agree with one of the above posters: LOTRO does WoW better than WoW ever did. If Turbine actually decides to focus on balancing Monster Play, LOTRO could easily be seen as better than WoW in every single way.
Considering that Turbine could afford the Lord of the Rings and Dungeons & Dragons IP and is able to develop 3 mmorpg's simultaneously, I doubt recources was really an issue.