"lol you just described EVERY mmo out there, there isn't a game out there where you either A don't have to kill x number of monsters or B go here get this go there deliver that, blah blah."
Well I never played UO so I may be totally off base, however
Being an older MMO -- indeed 2 d not 3d -- it was probably similar to old school EQ where there weren't quests as we know them however.
PLease dont' try to convince me that you didn't go in to dungeons in UO to go kill mob a to get x drop. Or go talk to some NPC in order to get such and such started etc. Even sandbox games like Starwars Galaxies required you to grind mobs for certain purposes if those purposes were your goals.
No those games didn't have what WoW introduced as quest system where you could grind quests in order to level but that hardly means that the game is forcing you to do whatever.
In every MMO you either go kill mobs for whatever reason -- often the same kinds of mobs spawn in certain geographical areas so you kill multiples of one kind of mob (omg the horror), or you craft, or you socialise/rp, or you pvp if it's available. I KNOW UO had major quest objectives that required grinding and camping because I"ve spoken to ex-players who were royally pissed off when their hard earned item was looted when they were pk'd. So unless I"ve been lied to UO still required you to go get x from mob a to deliver to npc y to turn it in to j so you can accomplish bla bla bla.
The difference? an older UI, npc's wouldn't have had shiny little markers above their heads, quests took a little bit more effort to figure out pre WoW since they weren't handed to you -- but the process was EXACTLY the same.
pahlease find another complaint about MMO's honestly -- or find a dose of reality and fast.
There are pros and cons in my opinions about lotro for today.
First good side:
1. Game quality stable in general .
2. General design reasonable or acceptable in most parts. At least not something weird enough like FFXI, Pirates of the Burning Sea, EQ2 etc.
3. Game worthy to play for a while.
Here comes the cons that many others don't want to read. If you can't stand to read the negatives, DO NOT continue.
1. The game contents is very limited. It designed for you to play every different character and REPEATE EXACTLY contents but it does not counted in my playing hours for contents.
2. If I compared LOTRO with WOW included the Moria expansion still only half of contents than WOW.
3, Community getting stinks because not enough new faces in the small and humble server, people knew each other and don't like to play with others. Poor kinship doing instance run all over again and again on their alts. People become sick of doing instance which I think they were completely ABUSE by the game.
Conclusion: Less contents does not make LOTRO a bad game, it is still worthwhile to play from time to time, stop subscription a few months and come back to check if there is any new expansion released. If there is next expansion from lotro, I will buy.
Now, I don't bother to level up the rest of my other alts, just leveling my first seed character on relics, once I got Tier 8 relics, I may stop playing a few days or weeks and come back one day. One other reason is those kinships stinks and different from the old days. I guess I won't have chance to play Vile Maw.
Now, I don't bother to level up the rest of my other alts, just leveling my first seed character on relics, once I got Tier 8 relics, I may stop playing a few days or weeks and come back one day. One other reason is those kinships stinks and different from the old days. I guess I won't have chance to play Vile Maw.
sorry your kin went to shit Larry. Thankfully mine just keeps getting better and better. By the way anyone who has done all the content in LoTRO need to get a real life. I have been playing since beta 2 and there are still quests I have not done before the expansion. And even on stuff I have done there are new ways of doing it.
This morning I decided to Finish the Bilbos Buttons deed on one of my upper 50's toons and even though the darn mobs were green and gray I cannot solo a pair of 10K hit point trolls at the same time. Creative use of all my skills and a healthy dose of allowed me to complete it but it was wasn't easy.
I really think you need to find a diffferent game Larrry, you been finding faults with LoTRO since release and for the life of me I can't figure why anyone would keep sending Turbine 15 bucks a month for a game they obviously don't care for. Unless it just to troll the game of course <shrug> Up to you though your money and your time.
Play it more, and then tell how exciting it is, when all your quests are kill x boars, kill y bears, kill z goblins, etc. Over and over and over again. Every 5 levels there's a whole new set of the same critters you've been fighting over and over again. Okay, it's not all grinding. There's the ever so original "Hey, why don't you go over to _____ and talk to ______, they need your help".
Don't get me wrong, some parts are actually quite inventive and cinematic. But there's a whole lot of filler in the game as well. Unfortunately, more of the latter than the good stuff.
I hear this argument all the time, about EVERY MMO available.. And I'm really curious as to what everyone wants in quests?
From the earliest days of CRPG's, computer/console, isn't that what every quest is?; go here, find this, bring it back, go here kill that, show me proof....
I just don't know what all these people bitching about quests wants an NPC to ask you to do.... And you know what, I don't think they have a clue as to what they want in quests either, after all, if it's not killing or finding, what are you going to be doing in an RPG anyway? Solving puzzles/riddles??? Those typically go hand in hand with both of your find this and kill this quests....
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"lol you just described EVERY mmo out there, there isn't a game out there where you either A don't have to kill x number of monsters or B go here get this go there deliver that, blah blah."
Have you ever heard of Ultima Online?
Keep on rockin'!
Well I never played UO so I may be totally off base, however
Being an older MMO -- indeed 2 d not 3d -- it was probably similar to old school EQ where there weren't quests as we know them however.
PLease dont' try to convince me that you didn't go in to dungeons in UO to go kill mob a to get x drop. Or go talk to some NPC in order to get such and such started etc. Even sandbox games like Starwars Galaxies required you to grind mobs for certain purposes if those purposes were your goals.
No those games didn't have what WoW introduced as quest system where you could grind quests in order to level but that hardly means that the game is forcing you to do whatever.
In every MMO you either go kill mobs for whatever reason -- often the same kinds of mobs spawn in certain geographical areas so you kill multiples of one kind of mob (omg the horror), or you craft, or you socialise/rp, or you pvp if it's available. I KNOW UO had major quest objectives that required grinding and camping because I"ve spoken to ex-players who were royally pissed off when their hard earned item was looted when they were pk'd. So unless I"ve been lied to UO still required you to go get x from mob a to deliver to npc y to turn it in to j so you can accomplish bla bla bla.
The difference? an older UI, npc's wouldn't have had shiny little markers above their heads, quests took a little bit more effort to figure out pre WoW since they weren't handed to you -- but the process was EXACTLY the same.
pahlease find another complaint about MMO's honestly -- or find a dose of reality and fast.
I am playing LOTRO and a miner in Eve. I realy enjoy LOTRO.
There are pros and cons in my opinions about lotro for today.
First good side:
1. Game quality stable in general .
2. General design reasonable or acceptable in most parts. At least not something weird enough like FFXI, Pirates of the Burning Sea, EQ2 etc.
3. Game worthy to play for a while.
Here comes the cons that many others don't want to read. If you can't stand to read the negatives, DO NOT continue.
1. The game contents is very limited. It designed for you to play every different character and REPEATE EXACTLY contents but it does not counted in my playing hours for contents.
2. If I compared LOTRO with WOW included the Moria expansion still only half of contents than WOW.
3, Community getting stinks because not enough new faces in the small and humble server, people knew each other and don't like to play with others. Poor kinship doing instance run all over again and again on their alts. People become sick of doing instance which I think they were completely ABUSE by the game.
Conclusion: Less contents does not make LOTRO a bad game, it is still worthwhile to play from time to time, stop subscription a few months and come back to check if there is any new expansion released. If there is next expansion from lotro, I will buy.
Now, I don't bother to level up the rest of my other alts, just leveling my first seed character on relics, once I got Tier 8 relics, I may stop playing a few days or weeks and come back one day. One other reason is those kinships stinks and different from the old days. I guess I won't have chance to play Vile Maw.
sorry your kin went to shit Larry. Thankfully mine just keeps getting better and better. By the way anyone who has done all the content in LoTRO need to get a real life. I have been playing since beta 2 and there are still quests I have not done before the expansion. And even on stuff I have done there are new ways of doing it.
This morning I decided to Finish the Bilbos Buttons deed on one of my upper 50's toons and even though the darn mobs were green and gray I cannot solo a pair of 10K hit point trolls at the same time. Creative use of all my skills and a healthy dose of allowed me to complete it but it was wasn't easy.
I really think you need to find a diffferent game Larrry, you been finding faults with LoTRO since release and for the life of me I can't figure why anyone would keep sending Turbine 15 bucks a month for a game they obviously don't care for. Unless it just to troll the game of course <shrug> Up to you though your money and your time.
I miss DAoC
I hear this argument all the time, about EVERY MMO available.. And I'm really curious as to what everyone wants in quests?
From the earliest days of CRPG's, computer/console, isn't that what every quest is?; go here, find this, bring it back, go here kill that, show me proof....
I just don't know what all these people bitching about quests wants an NPC to ask you to do.... And you know what, I don't think they have a clue as to what they want in quests either, after all, if it's not killing or finding, what are you going to be doing in an RPG anyway? Solving puzzles/riddles??? Those typically go hand in hand with both of your find this and kill this quests....