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Warhammer is a terrible game
mmoluva
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If you haven't tried it DON'T. All people do in that game is run around and kill NPC's to advance their characters. Was supposed to be about WAR and RVR? It's not at all about WAR its all about AVOIDING your enemies because fighting enemies slows Renown Point Production. Killing NPC's is much easier and faster. People have been duped into thinking that killing unprotected Battle Objectives is any different from killing MOB's. If you like PVE Warhammer is a great game but don't buy it thinking it has any form of RVR/PVP.
I'm on Praag an Open RVR server and its horrible. Nobody fights. Terrible game with a crazy flaw that goes against what the game was desined to be.
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I don't like War either.
But the BEST thing to do is try it, so that everyone can see it or else we still get stuck with dreamed up hype.
So buy it, at 30 dollars/Euros it is not that expensive and the more people play it, the less hype there is.
If NOT, War will certainly be the next best MMORPG in 2009, because most people don't play it and believe hype of supporters.
Happened to the dead duck of LOTRO, so buy the product and see for yourselves.
The only thing I see is a frustrated industry with frustrated mmorpg.com players.
Blizz is simply too good in game making. They should leave and we will see what garbage we will be playing by then ....
This was epic when waiting for the game.. now it's pathetic. Show how much developers play with players expectations:
www.youtube.com/watch
If you dislike the game & just wanted to moan about it then please try to avoid empirical statements.
If you had said "don't buy it thinking it is primarily..." or "I don't like this style of ...", then some players might agree with you, but saying "don't buy it thinking it has any form ..." is blatently untrue.
I play on the normal Euro Server 'Karak Hirn' & regularly see quite a lot of RvR & PvP. I agree that the game could be tweaked to encourage it further, but to claim that it 'has no form of RvR/PvP' is just hysteria.
PS. Shouldn't this really have been on the Warhammer Boards?
If you can't "Have your cake & eat it too", then how can "The proof of the pudding be in the eating"?
Take the Hecatomb? TCG What Is Your Doom? quiz.
Do you mean it has no form of PvP at all? I can't attack other players in any way in that game? Ok, I see. You're obviously right. ;-)
Do you mean it has no form of PvP at all? I can't attack other players in any way in that game? Ok, I see. You're obviously right. ;-)
That is correct.
Excuse me i didn't want to jump in on this. BUT I've played War i don't now but i DID. it's not a terrible game and the only reason i left is because there wasn't ENOUGH PVE. There is PLENTY of PVP/RVR content going on (On pheonix throne). This isn't even mentioning the Scenario's which were always going.
Do not let the OP stop you from at least trying the game. I thought it was failry well done and fun in it's own right it just was more pvp oriented than i enjoy. Waan't MY TASTE that doesn' mean it's a bad game by any means of the word.
Remember OP just because you didn't have a good experience or didn't like the game for whatever reason does not mean that other people should just "NEVER TRY IT CZ IT SUXXORZ". Everyone has there own idea of what they want from an MMO.
Also please start stating examples if you ARE going to try and sway people from playing. Play times, Server, character, levle reached etc. If you were to do this people may take your advice but spouting nonsense like "THIS GAME IS BAD CAUSE I SAID SO" is not the way to get your voice heard.
Ok, thanks for confirming. /thread :-p
So you left the game and reply to my voice in my thread. During any 24 hour period in Warhammer everything I said is true.
Then you shouldn't have. It's a troll thread. ;-)
So you left the game and reply to my voice in my thread. During any 24 hour period in Warhammer everything I said is true.
Since most of your post was opinion, that is true in the sense that it represents how you feel about the way that RvR & PvP were implemented.
I might also be true that you never bothered to try the 'RvR & PvP', but It is not true however that there isn't any form of it at all & you even acknowledge the existence of the mechanisms in your post.
If you look on the Warhammer boards there are quite a few players that seem to enjoy the 'RvR & PvP' very much even thoug it obviously wasn't to you liking.
It's fairly pointless trying to insist otherwise, but if that is what make you happy then carry on.
If you can't "Have your cake & eat it too", then how can "The proof of the pudding be in the eating"?
Take the Hecatomb? TCG What Is Your Doom? quiz.
So you left the game and reply to my voice in my thread. During any 24 hour period in Warhammer everything I said is true.
Theres the problem... It's NOT and more than one person is agreeing on this.
You are somewhat right. This what you get when people want mmo`s with LV and gear grinding without any loss or danger.
Why should you fight your enemy?
what do you gain?
what do you lose?
Why defend a castle?
what`s the difference with an enemy player or some AI bot when you can`t talk to either of them?
The only place you are wrong is the PvP part, because atleast on my server we defend our castle. The battles are massive, and this is the only reason I sometimes log into WAR. Why I do defend a castle when I don`t gain anything, is because it kills some time and somtimes it might even be FUN. This is what most of the grinding gereration of mmo have lost....the fun part.
Imagine how fun WAR could have been without the levels, zone and item dependency. Just a massive zone where guilds own their castles and would fight to hold them.
And some of you from the grinder generations of MMO`s still don`t get it why some of us really want DF to be a success.
Good points.
Warhammer online is better than Matrix online, Horizons, Hellgate: London, Dark and Light, Shadow Bane and Tabula Rasa.
FUncom putting the FU in fun since 1993.
And its better than Atari Pong. You made me laugh.
I don't like PVP in MMO's, really.
Most of the people that I've met who say that they love PVP really meant that they love ganking unsuspecting targets or griefing low level zones. Few enjoy a fair fight on an even playing field.
Factor in the prevailing min-max philosophy; the complete lack of any effective class balancing, and PVP in most MMOs turns into either a game of paper/rock/scissors or a gankfest.
It's all so terribly mindless; and while that can be fun once and a while, it's not a sound foundation to build a big budget MMO on as far as I'm concerned. It's probably why games like AoC and WAR have such a limited appeal.
Playing: EVE, Final Fantasy 13, Uncharted 2, Need for Speed: Shift
i warned people to not trust a company that wont even host forums. there is a reason they dont want to deal with players.
I think you are right and this is why they always fail. As far as the "We are the Hardcore PVP Title to save the day" (Shadowbane, AoC and soon to be Darkfall).
Warhammer will be fine but its really just a PVE game where the player base avoids PVP at all costs.
Hey LondanMagus..haha.. playing semantics and word games is a silly way to defend a terrible game.
Warhammer lost subs so fast the first few months, for one reason, the game is terrible, and forums are a place for people to share thier views, deal with it.
Mythic did not keep to the spirit of Warhammer, as someone said already, there should have been one open world with castles to defend and only a few instances for some PvE and battlegrounds. There is no inspiration at all to play, the game is sooooo linear it hurts my head.
The open world PvP is almost non-existent, empty worlds with everyone in the scenerios...lol..
Also, Warhammer was never advertized as a PvE game, so you few who posted that you left the game because there was not enough PvE, is just kinda crazy...
Dude,
Thanks for posting I was beginning to wonder if anyone would get the thread back on track. A lot of these people are in Denial.
LOL, I wasn't playing semantics at all, quite the opposite. The OP claimed that there was literally no form of RvR or PvP in the game which to paraphrase your own words was a fairly silly way to attack the game.
Warhammer did indeed lose a lot of subs & I happily admit it has many faults, but whilst you may think it is terrible, enough people disagree that the game is still going.
I am in a medium sized guild on one of the Euro servers where all members are fairly enthusiastic about the game & regularly enjoy RvR & PvP activity.
You didn't like the game & I respect your opinion, but that is all it is.
If you can't "Have your cake & eat it too", then how can "The proof of the pudding be in the eating"?
Take the Hecatomb? TCG What Is Your Doom? quiz.
I enjoy the game but it terrible.
You rolled on the wrong server and you simply haven't tried hard enough to play it.
There are indeed the avoid-zergs that only go for the BO's instead of fighting the opposition. But there are also warbands that form up purely to engage those zergs as well.
My server (European Karak-Eight-Peaks) has a LOT of oRvR and plenty of scenario battles. Your findings on the game are simply untrue.
Warhammer was probably the biggest let down of 2008 for gamers expecting the next best thing. Ugly , bloated, pointless, uninteresting PVE pretty much define it. Those that played DAOC definately expected at least the same caliber or better of a game that it was and while people with lots of RAM stand there waiting for there swap file to clear do to crappy coding they face the truth that this like alot of games in 2008 is just another doorstop.
I thought WAR was a decent game, just not a very good MMORPG.
It certainly isn't much of a world, more like an interconnected set of combat scenarios, some instanced, some not.
Many people enjoy the game as its designed. All a matter opinion.
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