FROM THE DARKFALL IRC: (banZor)Site and Forums are down atm due to an experiencing a DDOS attack and their ISP is trying to deal with it. Aventurine are working on it. No ETA yet.
Someone is not happy with the lack of info or not getting beta invite.
I was thinking it was a DDOS attack. There's no excuse for people to do that...
And there is no excuse for an ISP not to have something simple as an IPS in place to counter it...
When I last successfully connected to the DF forums a couple of hours ago there were over 2,000 users online.
Now that most of America have got up and come online too the number of users hitting the page will have increased even further.
With that many users repeatedly pressing F5 trying to find news of the beta release it has the same equivalent effect as a Distributed Denial Of Service attack, without actually being an intentional attack.
Cmon you should know by now, Aventurine only exist to make AoC look good.
Playing: Darkfall New Dawn (and planning to play Fallout 76) Favourite games have included: UO, Lineage2, Darkfall, Lotro, Baldur's Gate, SSX, FF7 and yes the original Wizardry on an Apple IIe
Originally posted by atziluth Originally posted by nethaniah You are brain dead if you think an indy dev can find the $$ to handle this kind of bandwidth. If blizzard can't even do it half of the time then guess who doesn't really stand a chance.
Yes comparing Blizzard who has numerous successful games played by millions of people is comparable to a company that has no currently released games and a base of less then 300K. I can see where you are making that leap in logic... Bandwidth expnentially increases as the size goes up... To handle 300K people would only be a fraction of the cost compared with what would be needed for millions. Stop talking about something you know nothing about.
300k plus people in bandwidth is a huge cost. If there is say about 1000 people trying to view the forums and they are refreshing the pages over and over, then yes this is basically a ddos attack. What I am saying is if blizzard servers lag anyone can lag. 2000/20000/200000, It doesn't matter how many it's still a large cost in bandwidth.
It's not a DDOS attack, just too much traffic. When I last successfully connected to the DF forums a couple of hours ago there were over 2,000 users online. Now that most of America have got up and come online too the number of users hitting the page will have increased even further. With that many users repeatedly pressing F5 trying to find news of the beta release it has the same equivalent effect as a Distributed Denial Of Service attack, without actually being an intentional attack.
Looks like their strategy of infrequent updates has not saved tghem any time, effort, or PR. Having worked with developers quite a bit, I can tell you they always think there is some shortcut or way to reduce effort required to produce a product. They never learn... tsk tsk
You are brain dead if you think an indy dev can find the $$ to handle this kind of bandwidth. If blizzard can't even do it half of the time then guess who doesn't really stand a chance.
Yes comparing Blizzard who has numerous successful games played by millions of people is comparable to a company that has no currently released games and a base of less then 300K. I can see where you are making that leap in logic...
Bandwidth expnentially increases as the size goes up... To handle 300K people would only be a fraction of the cost compared with what would be needed for millions. Stop talking about something you know nothing about.
300k plus people in bandwidth is a huge cost. If there is say about 1000 people trying to view the forums and they are refreshing the pages over and over, then yes this is basically a ddos attack. What I am saying is if blizzard servers lag anyone can lag. 2000/20000/200000, It doesn't matter how many it's still a large cost in bandwidth.
Then we have 2 roads:
1) The site was prepared to this huge traffic, because it was obvious that it would be that kind of traffic if its truth that they have more than 200k signings for beta. However something happened and the forum went off (this 'something' go for a new tree with several branches from intentional failure of the forum to martian attack)
2) They didnt expect that to happen, they didnt expect 2k hits in his forum, they werent prepared to it, which lead us to ask: 'If even I saw that coming, how couldnt they see it?'... Which leads a new tree (with several branches like incompetence, short-vision, lack of technical knowledge, etc...)
You are brain dead if you think an indy dev can find the $$ to handle this kind of bandwidth. If blizzard can't even do it half of the time then guess who doesn't really stand a chance.
Yes comparing Blizzard who has numerous successful games played by millions of people is comparable to a company that has no currently released games and a base of less then 300K. I can see where you are making that leap in logic...
Bandwidth expnentially increases as the size goes up... To handle 300K people would only be a fraction of the cost compared with what would be needed for millions. Stop talking about something you know nothing about.
300k plus people in bandwidth is a huge cost. If there is say about 1000 people trying to view the forums and they are refreshing the pages over and over, then yes this is basically a ddos attack. What I am saying is if blizzard servers lag anyone can lag. 2000/20000/200000, It doesn't matter how many it's still a large cost in bandwidth.
1000 people hitting the site constantly making web quarries is nothing in bandwidth today unless they are running of a frac T. A business line that could handle millions of quarries an hour would only be around $5K USD a month even double that in Greece you are talking about $10K USD which should be well within their development costs at this late stage.
Either they are a hack company or this is not from usage by any stretch of the imagination. Anyone who has been a network admin or even a systems admin would know this. Again, stop talking about something you clearly do not know about.
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BTW look at the current users on MMORPG.COM currently. (around 1700). If a website like this can handle that many connections then a development company with financial backing should be able to handle more. I cannot put it any more simply.
-Atziluth-
- Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
The game is not being hosted by Aventurine; it's being hosted by GNi who wil also handle the billing and publishing at a later date. Just thought someone should clear that one up...
Only a few websites are hosted on the server that is currently down - and they are those of Aventurine and friends of Aventurine i.e. the noob.
Fuck the script kiddie thats doing the DDOS attack on darkfall site.
Fuck you all who don't believe this is the greatest game ever.
Fuck all vaportrolls and all who think this is a scam.
I wish when Darkfall gets released all you dumbasses break your fingers and can't play.
I wish when Darkfall gets released they never set up servers in America, and all you fucktards get so high a ping that its unplayable.
FUCK YOU.
Looks like someone missed the short bus
Sic semper tyrannis "Democracy broke down, not when the Union ceased to be agreeable to all its constituent States, but when it was upheld, like any other Empire, by force of arms."
See the people who are posting all this abusive swearing and thay are over the top fanboys lol On there official forums all thay do is abuse and insult any questions anybody has that does not live well with there fanboy ideals.
Never seen a forum like it. And i was checking it out earlier there was a thread from somebody called morderkaii i think that was call Darkfall: The worst community relation skills ever. It was very honest and to the point and he had hundreds agree with him that the way the things go over there is terrible.
And then it was amusing to read all the fanboys like the ones here being rude and arragont about an mmo that there is no offcial eveidence about ? lol thay were attacking and rude and like little imature kids lol my god i hope there forums do come back up soon as thay are all nasty little potty mouths that is for sure.
Well apart from the ones who are not so rude and like overhyped fanboys lol Disgusting place to be if you ask me lol
Fuck the script kiddie thats doing the DDOS attack on darkfall site.
Fuck you all who don't believe this is the greatest game ever.
Fuck all vaportrolls and all who think this is a scam.
I wish when Darkfall gets released all you dumbasses break your fingers and can't play.
I wish when Darkfall gets released they never set up servers in America, and all you fucktards get so high a ping that its unplayable.
FUCK YOU.
That is a great 1st post. Bravo!!
I'm still trying to fathom whether he's being ironic or not.
I do not know also, but it seens to me that the Cynics had a flawless victory today over the fanboys... If this was WARHAMMER I'd say that Cynics 500 x 0 Fanboys ... But that its not a good thing, since the Fanboys in *any* genre starts with -500 for lack of intelligence and reality grasp...
Fuck the script kiddie thats doing the DDOS attack on darkfall site.
Fuck you all who don't believe this is the greatest game ever.
Fuck all vaportrolls and all who think this is a scam.
I wish when Darkfall gets released all you dumbasses break your fingers and can't play.
I wish when Darkfall gets released they never set up servers in America, and all you fucktards get so high a ping that its unplayable.
FUCK YOU.
That is a great 1st post. Bravo!!
I'm still trying to fathom whether he's being ironic or not.
I do not know also, but it seens to me that the Cynics had a flawless victory today over the fanboys... If this was WARHAMMER I'd say that Cynics 500 x 0 Fanboys ... But that its not a good thing, since the Fanboys in *any* genre starts with -500 for lack of intelligence and reality grasp...
Fuck the script kiddie thats doing the DDOS attack on darkfall site.
Fuck you all who don't believe this is the greatest game ever.
Fuck all vaportrolls and all who think this is a scam.
I wish when Darkfall gets released all you dumbasses break your fingers and can't play.
I wish when Darkfall gets released they never set up servers in America, and all you fucktards get so high a ping that its unplayable.
FUCK YOU.
That is a great 1st post. Bravo!!
I'm still trying to fathom whether he's being ironic or not.
I do not know also, but it seens to me that the Cynics had a flawless victory today over the fanboys... If this was WARHAMMER I'd say that Cynics 500 x 0 Fanboys ... But that its not a good thing, since the Fanboys in *any* genre starts with -500 for lack of intelligence and reality grasp...
The sad thing is, there are many cynics like myself that would gladly accept being proven wrong to have all the promises come true. Unfortunately every day that passes it becomes more and more likely that this will not be the case. I see every post by Tasos and the lack of one today as a loss for everyone. I want this game to be great, I just have seen to much from the past to believe it to be true.
-Atziluth-
- Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
I'm trying to vent my anger here and get banned, and all you have to say in response to my BS is "Welcome to MMorpg" and "Bravo great first post"???
LOL you made my day. Something is seriously wrong with this website
Perhaps there would have been more outrage if you original post didn't echo what every fanboi has been saying on this forum for years now. Call it desensitization to hysterical fanboism.
-Atziluth-
- Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
said thing is he's probley some wow panzie who would quit the game within first week.
Sic semper tyrannis "Democracy broke down, not when the Union ceased to be agreeable to all its constituent States, but when it was upheld, like any other Empire, by force of arms."
I'm trying to vent my anger here and get banned, and all you have to say in response to my BS is "Welcome to MMorpg" and "Bravo great first post"???
LOL you made my day. Something is seriously wrong with this website
What that the people here are normal and you are like a load of retarded fanboys with a serious brain problems, So imature and retarded this is what 70% are like over at darkfall forums lol go and read there threads there that real fans create and ask questions then get called every name you can think of lol
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Someone is not happy with the lack of info or not getting beta invite.
I was thinking it was a DDOS attack. There's no excuse for people to do that...
And there is no excuse for an ISP not to have something simple as an IPS in place to counter it...
And there is no excuse for all the no excuses!!!
It's not a DDOS attack, just too much traffic.
When I last successfully connected to the DF forums a couple of hours ago there were over 2,000 users online.
Now that most of America have got up and come online too the number of users hitting the page will have increased even further.
With that many users repeatedly pressing F5 trying to find news of the beta release it has the same equivalent effect as a Distributed Denial Of Service attack, without actually being an intentional attack.
Cmon you should know by now, Aventurine only exist to make AoC look good.
Playing: Darkfall New Dawn (and planning to play Fallout 76)
Favourite games have included: UO, Lineage2, Darkfall, Lotro, Baldur's Gate, SSX, FF7 and yes the original Wizardry on an Apple IIe
Yes comparing Blizzard who has numerous successful games played by millions of people is comparable to a company that has no currently released games and a base of less then 300K. I can see where you are making that leap in logic...
Bandwidth expnentially increases as the size goes up... To handle 300K people would only be a fraction of the cost compared with what would be needed for millions. Stop talking about something you know nothing about.
300k plus people in bandwidth is a huge cost. If there is say about 1000 people trying to view the forums and they are refreshing the pages over and over, then yes this is basically a ddos attack. What I am saying is if blizzard servers lag anyone can lag. 2000/20000/200000, It doesn't matter how many it's still a large cost in bandwidth.
Looks like their strategy of infrequent updates has not saved tghem any time, effort, or PR. Having worked with developers quite a bit, I can tell you they always think there is some shortcut or way to reduce effort required to produce a product. They never learn... tsk tsk
Yes comparing Blizzard who has numerous successful games played by millions of people is comparable to a company that has no currently released games and a base of less then 300K. I can see where you are making that leap in logic...
Bandwidth expnentially increases as the size goes up... To handle 300K people would only be a fraction of the cost compared with what would be needed for millions. Stop talking about something you know nothing about.
300k plus people in bandwidth is a huge cost. If there is say about 1000 people trying to view the forums and they are refreshing the pages over and over, then yes this is basically a ddos attack. What I am saying is if blizzard servers lag anyone can lag. 2000/20000/200000, It doesn't matter how many it's still a large cost in bandwidth.
Then we have 2 roads:
1) The site was prepared to this huge traffic, because it was obvious that it would be that kind of traffic if its truth that they have more than 200k signings for beta. However something happened and the forum went off (this 'something' go for a new tree with several branches from intentional failure of the forum to martian attack)
2) They didnt expect that to happen, they didnt expect 2k hits in his forum, they werent prepared to it, which lead us to ask: 'If even I saw that coming, how couldnt they see it?'... Which leads a new tree (with several branches like incompetence, short-vision, lack of technical knowledge, etc...)
Yes comparing Blizzard who has numerous successful games played by millions of people is comparable to a company that has no currently released games and a base of less then 300K. I can see where you are making that leap in logic...
Bandwidth expnentially increases as the size goes up... To handle 300K people would only be a fraction of the cost compared with what would be needed for millions. Stop talking about something you know nothing about.
300k plus people in bandwidth is a huge cost. If there is say about 1000 people trying to view the forums and they are refreshing the pages over and over, then yes this is basically a ddos attack. What I am saying is if blizzard servers lag anyone can lag. 2000/20000/200000, It doesn't matter how many it's still a large cost in bandwidth.
1000 people hitting the site constantly making web quarries is nothing in bandwidth today unless they are running of a frac T. A business line that could handle millions of quarries an hour would only be around $5K USD a month even double that in Greece you are talking about $10K USD which should be well within their development costs at this late stage.
Either they are a hack company or this is not from usage by any stretch of the imagination. Anyone who has been a network admin or even a systems admin would know this. Again, stop talking about something you clearly do not know about.
-edit-
BTW look at the current users on MMORPG.COM currently. (around 1700). If a website like this can handle that many connections then a development company with financial backing should be able to handle more. I cannot put it any more simply.
-Atziluth-
- Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
The game is not being hosted by Aventurine; it's being hosted by GNi who wil also handle the billing and publishing at a later date. Just thought someone should clear that one up...
Only a few websites are hosted on the server that is currently down - and they are those of Aventurine and friends of Aventurine i.e. the noob.
I knew they were hiding somewhere...
Welcome to MMORPG.com
Too much hype, they will have to delay again until the hype is down.
Looks like someone missed the short bus
Sic semper tyrannis "Democracy broke down, not when the Union
ceased to be agreeable to all its constituent States, but when it was upheld, like any other Empire, by force of arms."
Yeah, Tasos forbid if it sells all or even worst, they make any profit... Tasos would destroy all for heresy!!!
Ya its dead. And no invites for me and I havn't seen any info at all regarding today. So everything is normal.
That is a great 1st post. Bravo!!
That is a great 1st post. Bravo!!
I'm still trying to fathom whether he's being ironic or not.
I don't know if he's being sarcastic or what, but either way that's a great post.
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See the people who are posting all this abusive swearing and thay are over the top fanboys lol On there official forums all thay do is abuse and insult any questions anybody has that does not live well with there fanboy ideals.
Never seen a forum like it. And i was checking it out earlier there was a thread from somebody called morderkaii i think that was call Darkfall: The worst community relation skills ever. It was very honest and to the point and he had hundreds agree with him that the way the things go over there is terrible.
And then it was amusing to read all the fanboys like the ones here being rude and arragont about an mmo that there is no offcial eveidence about ? lol thay were attacking and rude and like little imature kids lol my god i hope there forums do come back up soon as thay are all nasty little potty mouths that is for sure.
Well apart from the ones who are not so rude and like overhyped fanboys lol Disgusting place to be if you ask me lol
That is a great 1st post. Bravo!!
I'm still trying to fathom whether he's being ironic or not.
I do not know also, but it seens to me that the Cynics had a flawless victory today over the fanboys... If this was WARHAMMER I'd say that Cynics 500 x 0 Fanboys ... But that its not a good thing, since the Fanboys in *any* genre starts with -500 for lack of intelligence and reality grasp...
That is a great 1st post. Bravo!!
I'm still trying to fathom whether he's being ironic or not.
I do not know also, but it seens to me that the Cynics had a flawless victory today over the fanboys... If this was WARHAMMER I'd say that Cynics 500 x 0 Fanboys ... But that its not a good thing, since the Fanboys in *any* genre starts with -500 for lack of intelligence and reality grasp...
So true well said.
That is a great 1st post. Bravo!!
I'm still trying to fathom whether he's being ironic or not.
I do not know also, but it seens to me that the Cynics had a flawless victory today over the fanboys... If this was WARHAMMER I'd say that Cynics 500 x 0 Fanboys ... But that its not a good thing, since the Fanboys in *any* genre starts with -500 for lack of intelligence and reality grasp...
The sad thing is, there are many cynics like myself that would gladly accept being proven wrong to have all the promises come true. Unfortunately every day that passes it becomes more and more likely that this will not be the case. I see every post by Tasos and the lack of one today as a loss for everyone. I want this game to be great, I just have seen to much from the past to believe it to be true.
-Atziluth-
- Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
Perhaps there would have been more outrage if you original post didn't echo what every fanboi has been saying on this forum for years now. Call it desensitization to hysterical fanboism.
-Atziluth-
- Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
said thing is he's probley some wow panzie who would quit the game within first week.
Sic semper tyrannis "Democracy broke down, not when the Union
ceased to be agreeable to all its constituent States, but when it was upheld, like any other Empire, by force of arms."
lmao
This is why you don't let some Euro Trash developer pretend like they're creating an amazing game.
Common sense people. Common sense.
What that the people here are normal and you are like a load of retarded fanboys with a serious brain problems, So imature and retarded this is what 70% are like over at darkfall forums lol go and read there threads there that real fans create and ask questions then get called every name you can think of lol