My suggestion is that rather than looking to the past, try looking to the present and the future. Sure it still needs work, no one is denying that. But after reading the dev posts, you get the feeling that they DO have a fully understandable and logical plan for the development of the game.
I almost agree with this. But with all the work that have been done to AoC I find it a bit tragic that they once again give Erling Ellingsen another chance to mess things up.
IMO he have absolutely no credibility. His pathetic attempts at "damagecontrol" has cost Funcom's stockholders more money than all bad re-reviews and socalled "trolls" and "haters" combined!
Fck stockholders, EE and what not. For christ sake you do absolutely not need them. For you annoyance with EE though, I fully understand you. I don't have a compatability issue with him. Well, sure enough he always get into this overenthusiastic role where everything is fantastic, But then again I have never seen him act differently. Meaning it's most likely his personality. He might even be like that even when taking a shit. I know of fare more annoying personality traits than that. Let it slide.
Same thing for me, I can't fcking take that fat CEO for WAR. Constantly blabbing about how much of an success this or that WAR was, while the actual truth was, every evening the whole server would sit chatting about how pathetic the no RvR condition and all the disasterous lag in RvR were. There was no doubt about that the whole lag problematics were a huge Hoax from Mythic and MJs side. There is no way in hell they could not be aware of this before they launched. Still MJ would fire off his usual "Most smooth MMO launch ever and so on...". It's called BS from gaming companies. Now in the end, I have put an ignore on MJs comments and just let it slide.
Focus on the game, and yes, even though I joined late and everything was more or less ok when I started, the game have just kept getting better and better and better over the last 3 months. I am actually willing to give it grades in the 8 to 10 now (looking on all categories in MMORPG).
Must turn away from the hypocracy ......
Particulary interesting is the idea of F-ing the stockholders. That makes perfect business sense. 8/10 for you.
The focus on techincal issues, or lack thereof, for the launch misses the point. The game was a pos. the amount of missing or incomplete content was ridiculously absurd. I think if the game was complete but broken, people would have been a lot more willing to put up with it. But with the game incomplete and broken it was too much.
People had no idea what the final product would look like, and they were paying for it. Even systems that worked, were so bare bones you didn't know if that was the end result or just something they rushed out the door for launch (chat system anyone?)
Also AA, when you say the billing worked well for you, I think that is what that poster was trying to say, they made sure they got paid. They just didn't make sure the game was finished.
I was really interested in this article but after reading the first line " Erling Ellingsen: The launch itself went very well, without any major technical difficulties, and sales wise it was an astounding success." I couldnt stop laughing...seriously that made my day haha no mister absolutely no major techincl difficulties, wink wink. You know what, i think its great if developers can make a fantasy but to live in one is something else!
Comparatively speaking it was smoother than City of Heroes, World Of Warcraft, TR, and many others that are essentially dead games now...
And it being up more than CoH is saying something.. WoW servers were down more than they were up at release I ended up with a months free time in compensation...
Funcom compensated ~10% of their user base for a weeks time with only one server of their many being down all of one day...
The focus on techincal issues, or lack thereof, for the launch misses the point. The game was a pos. the amount of missing or incomplete content was ridiculously absurd. I think if the game was complete but broken, people would have been a lot more willing to put up with it. But with the game incomplete and broken it was too much. People had no idea what the final product would look like, and they were paying for it. Even systems that worked, were so bare bones you didn't know if that was the end result or just something they rushed out the door for launch (chat system anyone?) Also AA, when you say the billing worked well for you, I think that is what that poster was trying to say, they made sure they got paid. They just didn't make sure the game was finished.
Massive dramatic exaggeration, blowing issues hugely out of galxtic proportions, does not equal making a good point.
The focus on techincal issues, or lack thereof, for the launch misses the point. The game was a pos. the amount of missing or incomplete content was ridiculously absurd. I think if the game was complete but broken, people would have been a lot more willing to put up with it. But with the game incomplete and broken it was too much. People had no idea what the final product would look like, and they were paying for it. Even systems that worked, were so bare bones you didn't know if that was the end result or just something they rushed out the door for launch (chat system anyone?) Also AA, when you say the billing worked well for you, I think that is what that poster was trying to say, they made sure they got paid. They just didn't make sure the game was finished.
Massive dramatic exaggeration, blowing issues hugely out of galxtic proportions, does not equal making a good point.
Unfortunately, some people in the world just cannot get over the past. They would rather focus 100% on it, rather than looking to the present or the future. Sometimes, exaggerating the truth helps such people feel more comfortable with their arguments.
Its a shame that some refuse to compromise or even be prepared to change their viewpoints and move on. Such is the nature of intolerance.
In a lot of cases, one neither has to forgive, nor forget. But one SHOULD learn to tolerate.
I do take serious issue with him pointing to his official forums as a sign that the community is happy. Funcom has been notorious for locking / deleting/ silencing the voices of its customers on those forums. They basically control those forums with an iron fist, so using them to make a case is plain silly.
An interesting read. I do take serious issue with him pointing to his official forums as a sign that the community is happy. Funcom has been notorious for locking / deleting/ silencing the voices of its customers on those forums. They basically control those forums with an iron fist, so using them to make a case is plain silly.
Funnily enough, the EU forums seem quite balanced on that respect. The Mods on the EU (english speaking) forums allow for constructive critisism. Its just the plain "BAH THIS SUXXXORS!!! DARFALL IS GUNNA PWNS AOC" gets locked and for the right reasons, its not constructive, its just flame bait. People who use profantities have their posts edited and verbally warned. Only if they do persist in doing it do they get banned. And I agree with that stance tbh.
The focus on techincal issues, or lack thereof, for the launch misses the point. The game was a pos. the amount of missing or incomplete content was ridiculously absurd. I think if the game was complete but broken, people would have been a lot more willing to put up with it. But with the game incomplete and broken it was too much. People had no idea what the final product would look like, and they were paying for it. Even systems that worked, were so bare bones you didn't know if that was the end result or just something they rushed out the door for launch (chat system anyone?) Also AA, when you say the billing worked well for you, I think that is what that poster was trying to say, they made sure they got paid. They just didn't make sure the game was finished.
Massive dramatic exaggeration, blowing issues hugely out of galxtic proportions, does not equal making a good point.
Unfortunately, some people in the world just cannot get over the past. They would rather focus 100% on it, rather than looking to the present or the future. Sometimes, exaggerating the truth helps such people feel more comfortable with their arguments.
Its a shame that some refuse to compromise or even be prepared to change their viewpoints and move on. Such is the nature of intolerance.
In a lot of cases, one neither has to forgive, nor forget. But one SHOULD learn to tolerate.
Thank you for the lesson in your opinion on "tolerance". I guess now all the fans will be very tolerant towards those that do not share their feelings towards Funcom?
Well joking aside I do think you got all that a bit backwards. This company, who lied to their customers, now have less income than they could have had. And you call the ex-customers who refuse to return and spread the word on the treatment they got "intolerant" - Please...
As for the past: I did consider Erling Ellingsen a thing of the past - Amazed that Funcom insists on throwing him back at us here in the present. Obviously he has not learned a lot.
Anyway, it is good to see that Orionman suddenly have developed a dislike for exaggerations and things getting blown out of proportion... I am looking forward to this new and improved Orionman
We dont need casuals in our games!!! Errm... Well we DO need casuals to fund and populate our games - But the games should be all about "hardcore" because: We dont need casuals in our games!!! (repeat ad infinitum)
Tarka made me laugh, his whole argument is people concentrate on the past....well its called learning and you should trying it cause that way you wont get slapped by the same hand in the same place....by the way forums are a place to give personal opinion and as i played AoC for a dam long time i think i have got the right to give any opinion no matter how much you cant handle it.
Mr Ellingsen didn't seem to mention anything about fixing the group system, or making it easier to use. Thats the #1 thing thats pissing me off about AoC right now.
I guess i dont count because i'm still on my free 30 days
Why are there so many cutesie, fantasy, childish MMO's. Give me blood, gore and a long lasting challenge. I don't need my hand being held along the way. Thanks.
The focus on techincal issues, or lack thereof, for the launch misses the point. The game was a pos. the amount of missing or incomplete content was ridiculously absurd. I think if the game was complete but broken, people would have been a lot more willing to put up with it. But with the game incomplete and broken it was too much. People had no idea what the final product would look like, and they were paying for it. Even systems that worked, were so bare bones you didn't know if that was the end result or just something they rushed out the door for launch (chat system anyone?) Also AA, when you say the billing worked well for you, I think that is what that poster was trying to say, they made sure they got paid. They just didn't make sure the game was finished.
Massive dramatic exaggeration, blowing issues hugely out of galxtic proportions, does not equal making a good point.
You are absolutely correct. However, correct though you may be, it does not apply to what I wrote. I specifically note that not only did you not refute or refer anything I wrote specifically, you also, ironically and comically, used the metaphor 'galactic' describe why exaggerating is bad.
These are the kind of people satisfied with FC's product.
The focus on techincal issues, or lack thereof, for the launch misses the point. The game was a pos. the amount of missing or incomplete content was ridiculously absurd. I think if the game was complete but broken, people would have been a lot more willing to put up with it. But with the game incomplete and broken it was too much. People had no idea what the final product would look like, and they were paying for it. Even systems that worked, were so bare bones you didn't know if that was the end result or just something they rushed out the door for launch (chat system anyone?) Also AA, when you say the billing worked well for you, I think that is what that poster was trying to say, they made sure they got paid. They just didn't make sure the game was finished.
Massive dramatic exaggeration, blowing issues hugely out of galxtic proportions, does not equal making a good point.
Unfortunately, some people in the world just cannot get over the past. They would rather focus 100% on it, rather than looking to the present or the future. Sometimes, exaggerating the truth helps such people feel more comfortable with their arguments.
Its a shame that some refuse to compromise or even be prepared to change their viewpoints and move on. Such is the nature of intolerance.
In a lot of cases, one neither has to forgive, nor forget. But one SHOULD learn to tolerate.
Why should I learn to tolerate paying for a crappy product? Thats sucker talk.
E.E seems to be a good guy but he is not good at PR when compared to Silirrion or some other guys from FC who I have seen in videos.
Lol a good guy? EE is the second most hated FC employee after Gaute. EE has lied more about Age of Conan than everyone else combined and that pisses people off.
Personally I see him as a sleazy marketing guy that cannot be trusted.
For EE this is quite a 180 degree turn and basically the first time I was pleased to read an interview with him.
It was a nice interview and I think Age of Conan will turn around and get some people back.
I don't think it should be hard for them to get on a healthy 250k subsriber level after update 5 is out. (meaning DX10 and Item / crafting revamp being released on live).
I resubbed for a month now just to check it out and I was trully impressed I could finally run the game at max without any lag, DC and CTD issues.
That was my biggest gripe when I quit and they have solved that.
So when update 4 and 5 get out on live.... I might come back for a longer time.
And I think that is exactly what FC themselves are waiting for too. Get update 4 and 5 out first, then launch a comeback campain. Wich is the only smart thing to do.
For EE this is quite a 180 degree turn and basically the first time I was pleased to read an interview with him. It was a nice interview and I think Age of Conan will turn around and get some people back. I don't think it should be hard for them to get on a healthy 250k subsriber level after update 5 is out. (meaning DX10 and Item / crafting revamp being released on live). I resubbed for a month now just to check it out and I was trully impressed I could finally run the game at max without any lag, DC and CTD issues. That was my biggest gripe when I quit and they have solved that. So when update 4 and 5 get out on live.... I might come back for a longer time. And I think that is exactly what FC themselves are waiting for too. Get update 4 and 5 out first, then launch a comeback campain. Wich is the only smart thing to do. Cheers
I see you are from Oslo, Norway.
I've always been wondering.. Are EE and Gaute celebrities in Oslo?
I've seen many norwegian people on this forum (almost 20% of users) so I guess Age of Conan is a big deal over there?
For EE this is quite a 180 degree turn and basically the first time I was pleased to read an interview with him. It was a nice interview and I think Age of Conan will turn around and get some people back. I don't think it should be hard for them to get on a healthy 250k subsriber level after update 5 is out. (meaning DX10 and Item / crafting revamp being released on live). I resubbed for a month now just to check it out and I was trully impressed I could finally run the game at max without any lag, DC and CTD issues. That was my biggest gripe when I quit and they have solved that. So when update 4 and 5 get out on live.... I might come back for a longer time. And I think that is exactly what FC themselves are waiting for too. Get update 4 and 5 out first, then launch a comeback campain. Wich is the only smart thing to do. Cheers
I see you are from Oslo, Norway.
I've always been wondering.. Are EE and Gaute celebrities in Oslo?
I've seen many norwegian people on this forum (almost 20% of users) so I guess Age of Conan is a big deal over there?
LOL! You fail so hard here. I guess you need to go back to school and redo the Trolling course.
I am dutch. Thus I am from Holland. That I moved to Oslo last year is a different matter.
In fact, I just started my Norwegian course, so I cannot even read Norwegian newspapers.
Just like I don't know these guys at all. I know them no more then you do.
I will be re-subbing to AoC, it sounds and looks like they have improved greatly, I love there graphics,There characters, and the PvP, this game offers alot, and it is improving each day and month, Cant wait till i get back in....
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I almost agree with this. But with all the work that have been done to AoC I find it a bit tragic that they once again give Erling Ellingsen another chance to mess things up.
IMO he have absolutely no credibility. His pathetic attempts at "damagecontrol" has cost Funcom's stockholders more money than all bad re-reviews and socalled "trolls" and "haters" combined!
Fck stockholders, EE and what not. For christ sake you do absolutely not need them. For you annoyance with EE though, I fully understand you. I don't have a compatability issue with him. Well, sure enough he always get into this overenthusiastic role where everything is fantastic, But then again I have never seen him act differently. Meaning it's most likely his personality. He might even be like that even when taking a shit. I know of fare more annoying personality traits than that. Let it slide.
Same thing for me, I can't fcking take that fat CEO for WAR. Constantly blabbing about how much of an success this or that WAR was, while the actual truth was, every evening the whole server would sit chatting about how pathetic the no RvR condition and all the disasterous lag in RvR were. There was no doubt about that the whole lag problematics were a huge Hoax from Mythic and MJs side. There is no way in hell they could not be aware of this before they launched. Still MJ would fire off his usual "Most smooth MMO launch ever and so on...". It's called BS from gaming companies. Now in the end, I have put an ignore on MJs comments and just let it slide.
Focus on the game, and yes, even though I joined late and everything was more or less ok when I started, the game have just kept getting better and better and better over the last 3 months. I am actually willing to give it grades in the 8 to 10 now (looking on all categories in MMORPG).
Must turn away from the hypocracy ......
Particulary interesting is the idea of F-ing the stockholders. That makes perfect business sense. 8/10 for you.
The focus on techincal issues, or lack thereof, for the launch misses the point. The game was a pos. the amount of missing or incomplete content was ridiculously absurd. I think if the game was complete but broken, people would have been a lot more willing to put up with it. But with the game incomplete and broken it was too much.
People had no idea what the final product would look like, and they were paying for it. Even systems that worked, were so bare bones you didn't know if that was the end result or just something they rushed out the door for launch (chat system anyone?)
Also AA, when you say the billing worked well for you, I think that is what that poster was trying to say, they made sure they got paid. They just didn't make sure the game was finished.
Comparatively speaking it was smoother than City of Heroes, World Of Warcraft, TR, and many others that are essentially dead games now...
And it being up more than CoH is saying something.. WoW servers were down more than they were up at release I ended up with a months free time in compensation...
Funcom compensated ~10% of their user base for a weeks time with only one server of their many being down all of one day...
Massive dramatic exaggeration, blowing issues hugely out of galxtic proportions, does not equal making a good point.
Massive dramatic exaggeration, blowing issues hugely out of galxtic proportions, does not equal making a good point.
Unfortunately, some people in the world just cannot get over the past. They would rather focus 100% on it, rather than looking to the present or the future. Sometimes, exaggerating the truth helps such people feel more comfortable with their arguments.
Its a shame that some refuse to compromise or even be prepared to change their viewpoints and move on. Such is the nature of intolerance.
In a lot of cases, one neither has to forgive, nor forget. But one SHOULD learn to tolerate.
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An interesting read.
I do take serious issue with him pointing to his official forums as a sign that the community is happy. Funcom has been notorious for locking / deleting/ silencing the voices of its customers on those forums. They basically control those forums with an iron fist, so using them to make a case is plain silly.
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Funnily enough, the EU forums seem quite balanced on that respect. The Mods on the EU (english speaking) forums allow for constructive critisism. Its just the plain "BAH THIS SUXXXORS!!! DARFALL IS GUNNA PWNS AOC" gets locked and for the right reasons, its not constructive, its just flame bait. People who use profantities have their posts edited and verbally warned. Only if they do persist in doing it do they get banned. And I agree with that stance tbh.
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That's what you get from Marketing types.
Besides, that's the feeling I got with George W. Bush XD
Top 10 Most Misused Words in MMO's
Massive dramatic exaggeration, blowing issues hugely out of galxtic proportions, does not equal making a good point.
Unfortunately, some people in the world just cannot get over the past. They would rather focus 100% on it, rather than looking to the present or the future. Sometimes, exaggerating the truth helps such people feel more comfortable with their arguments.
Its a shame that some refuse to compromise or even be prepared to change their viewpoints and move on. Such is the nature of intolerance.
In a lot of cases, one neither has to forgive, nor forget. But one SHOULD learn to tolerate.
Thank you for the lesson in your opinion on "tolerance". I guess now all the fans will be very tolerant towards those that do not share their feelings towards Funcom?
Well joking aside I do think you got all that a bit backwards. This company, who lied to their customers, now have less income than they could have had. And you call the ex-customers who refuse to return and spread the word on the treatment they got "intolerant" - Please...
As for the past: I did consider Erling Ellingsen a thing of the past - Amazed that Funcom insists on throwing him back at us here in the present. Obviously he has not learned a lot.
Anyway, it is good to see that Orionman suddenly have developed a dislike for exaggerations and things getting blown out of proportion... I am looking forward to this new and improved Orionman
We dont need casuals in our games!!! Errm... Well we DO need casuals to fund and populate our games - But the games should be all about "hardcore" because: We dont need casuals in our games!!!
(repeat ad infinitum)
Tarka made me laugh, his whole argument is people concentrate on the past....well its called learning and you should trying it cause that way you wont get slapped by the same hand in the same place....by the way forums are a place to give personal opinion and as i played AoC for a dam long time i think i have got the right to give any opinion no matter how much you cant handle it.
Mr Ellingsen didn't seem to mention anything about fixing the group system, or making it easier to use. Thats the #1 thing thats pissing me off about AoC right now.
I guess i dont count because i'm still on my free 30 days
Why are there so many cutesie, fantasy, childish MMO's. Give me blood, gore and a long lasting challenge. I don't need my hand being held along the way. Thanks.
Massive dramatic exaggeration, blowing issues hugely out of galxtic proportions, does not equal making a good point.
You are absolutely correct. However, correct though you may be, it does not apply to what I wrote. I specifically note that not only did you not refute or refer anything I wrote specifically, you also, ironically and comically, used the metaphor 'galactic' describe why exaggerating is bad.
These are the kind of people satisfied with FC's product.
Massive dramatic exaggeration, blowing issues hugely out of galxtic proportions, does not equal making a good point.
Unfortunately, some people in the world just cannot get over the past. They would rather focus 100% on it, rather than looking to the present or the future. Sometimes, exaggerating the truth helps such people feel more comfortable with their arguments.
Its a shame that some refuse to compromise or even be prepared to change their viewpoints and move on. Such is the nature of intolerance.
In a lot of cases, one neither has to forgive, nor forget. But one SHOULD learn to tolerate.
Why should I learn to tolerate paying for a crappy product? Thats sucker talk.
E.E seems to be a good guy but he is not good at PR when compared to Silirrion or some other guys from FC who I have seen in videos.
In the land of Predators,the lion does not fear the jackals...
Lol a good guy? EE is the second most hated FC employee after Gaute. EE has lied more about Age of Conan than everyone else combined and that pisses people off.
Personally I see him as a sleazy marketing guy that cannot be trusted.
For EE this is quite a 180 degree turn and basically the first time I was pleased to read an interview with him.
It was a nice interview and I think Age of Conan will turn around and get some people back.
I don't think it should be hard for them to get on a healthy 250k subsriber level after update 5 is out. (meaning DX10 and Item / crafting revamp being released on live).
I resubbed for a month now just to check it out and I was trully impressed I could finally run the game at max without any lag, DC and CTD issues.
That was my biggest gripe when I quit and they have solved that.
So when update 4 and 5 get out on live.... I might come back for a longer time.
And I think that is exactly what FC themselves are waiting for too. Get update 4 and 5 out first, then launch a comeback campain. Wich is the only smart thing to do.
Cheers
I see you are from Oslo, Norway.
I've always been wondering.. Are EE and Gaute celebrities in Oslo?
I've seen many norwegian people on this forum (almost 20% of users) so I guess Age of Conan is a big deal over there?
I see you are from Oslo, Norway.
I've always been wondering.. Are EE and Gaute celebrities in Oslo?
I've seen many norwegian people on this forum (almost 20% of users) so I guess Age of Conan is a big deal over there?
LOL! You fail so hard here. I guess you need to go back to school and redo the Trolling course.
I am dutch. Thus I am from Holland. That I moved to Oslo last year is a different matter.
In fact, I just started my Norwegian course, so I cannot even read Norwegian newspapers.
Just like I don't know these guys at all. I know them no more then you do.
Cheers
I will be re-subbing to AoC, it sounds and looks like they have improved greatly, I love there graphics,There characters, and the PvP, this game offers alot, and it is improving each day and month, Cant wait till i get back in....