Im not trying to say the game wont fail or cant but trashing anything the Devs say or do doesnt help anyone i waited for 2 years for SB and it bombed and guess what im still alive! i think theres a few ppl on these forums who want nuthing more then to see this game fail and there gonna be giddy as a school girl if it does and it drives me crazy whats wrong with waiting for the game to release letting the Devs do what thay gotta do befor we declar this game a scam ?
That is some very sound down to earth thinking. Bravo! Lets just give them some more time, about a month sounds about right.
"Time" is the ONE thing they've had plenty of...and look how well they've spent it.
Sorry, giving Aventurine more time is like giving a Milky Way to a diabetic.
Im not trying to say the game wont fail or cant but trashing anything the Devs say or do doesnt help anyone i waited for 2 years for SB and it bombed and guess what im still alive! i think theres a few ppl on these forums who want nuthing more then to see this game fail and there gonna be giddy as a school girl if it does and it drives me crazy whats wrong with waiting for the game to release letting the Devs do what thay gotta do befor we declar this game a scam ?
That is some very sound down to earth thinking. Bravo! Lets just give them some more time, about a month sounds about right.
i dont care if its 2 months as long as the games decent then it will all be worth it but if thay release Junk then ill be mad for a min or 2 i just have high hopes for a none Cookie cutter game like DF thay might not be doing things the right way but if the end product is good it will be worth wating for
I have to say, I am surprised. Not by the crap Tasos is pulling now -- that was completely expected. No, I'm surprised by the number of people who STILL believe this guy and hang on his every word. The depths of the stupidity surrounding this company and this game is just staggering, and yet people continue to believe. And if you dare question the validity of Tasos' claims or the game, you're a "hater." It is mind boggling. Ah well, back to playing real games for me. You guys enjoy your wait. I have no doubt it'll be a long one.
Yep.
Believing in Aventurine is now like believing in religion: there's no evidence whatsoever to support your belief, and only blind faith can sustain said belief.
Great to hear! Really hope I get in, but I doubt it, sadly. I'm very happy to hear this, and I'm to tired to make a decant post, so I'll leave it at this.
Nobody will get in because its just another lie.
Lol, and all the beta leakers with screen shots of ingame footage are "hoaxes". You kids at MMORPG really have got some issues.
I just hope no one buys the "stress test under NDA" bullshit. You can do stress test OR you can keep NDA. No one has ever been able to do both at once and no one will ever be. Period.
Im not trying to say the game wont fail or cant but trashing anything the Devs say or do doesnt help anyone i waited for 2 years for SB and it bombed and guess what im still alive! i think theres a few ppl on these forums who want nuthing more then to see this game fail and there gonna be giddy as a school girl if it does and it drives me crazy whats wrong with waiting for the game to release letting the Devs do what thay gotta do befor we declar this game a scam ?
That is some very sound down to earth thinking. Bravo! Lets just give them some more time, about a month sounds about right.
"Time" is the ONE thing they've had plenty of...and look how well they've spent it.
Sorry, giving Aventurine more time is like giving a Milky Way to a diabetic.
did Adenturine make you sit at your PC waiting for the last 7 years ? no you choose to ive know about DF for years to but i only stoped by time to time to check up on it and now that its on its home stretch im following it maybe thats why im not raging over lost time and hope everytime something doesnt go as planed i stoped closely following games in development after SB floped
Controlled beta invite with a NDA intact. So no "try before you buy", no info or videos before they start accepting money from pre-orders.
Not likeing the sound of this.
Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...
I just hope no one buys the "stress test under NDA" bullshit. You can do stress test OR you can keep NDA. No one has ever been able to do both at once and no one will ever be. Period.
Yep I have never heard of such a thing either. An NDA for a stress test and free trial?
Come on people, something is SERIOUSLY wrong with this game.
This is an update about what is happening today: We have sent out the first wave of invites to clans and individual testers. We will send more waves of invites within a few hours. Invited players will be able to download the Darkfall installer. We are applying the latest patch, and players will be able to start patching soon, and entering the game. We are spacing out the invites in order to facilitate the download of the client. We will continue sending out more invites every day until we reach our capacity. Since this first phase has to do with stress testing the servers, and doing final testing on features, we are not lifting the NDA until this testing is concluded. We apologize for the problems with the forums and the website today, we have been experiencing denial of service attacks, and we are working to resolve them.
Most games DO NOT lift NDA until Open Beta. Warhammer didn't lift their NDA until open beta. What exactly were you expecting?
They're still testing, adding content, adding features to the external builds. Why would they lift their NDA more than a month before release? You're a fool if you think they'd do that.
Great to hear! Really hope I get in, but I doubt it, sadly. I'm very happy to hear this, and I'm to tired to make a decant post, so I'll leave it at this.
Most games DO NOT lift NDA until Open Beta. Warhammer didn't lift their NDA until open beta. What exactly were you expecting? They're still testing, adding content, adding features to the external builds. Why would they lift their NDA more than a month before release? You're a fool if you think they'd do that.
Back in December Tasos claimed DF was already in a state to rival released games. Any way you slice it he is lying.
As for NDA... Most NDAs are dropped weeks before release. You could argue that we are still a month out, but the news blurb states the NDA will not be dropped until testing is complete. Since this testing includes a stress test (show me another MMO that had an NDA during stress testing) chances are the NDA will be in effect up until just before release. This is odd any way you slice it.
There is no mention of an "open" beta so I am inclined to believe there will not be one.
Finally, the game you listed had far more concrete information out months before release then DF has now with about 30 days to go. This is bad any way you slice it.
-Atziluth-
- Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
This is an update about what is happening today: We have sent out the first wave of invites to clans and individual testers. We will send more waves of invites within a few hours. Invited players will be able to download the Darkfall installer. We are applying the latest patch, and players will be able to start patching soon, and entering the game. We are spacing out the invites in order to facilitate the download of the client. We will continue sending out more invites every day until we reach our capacity. Since this first phase has to do with stress testing the servers, and doing final testing on features, we are not lifting the NDA until this testing is concluded. We apologize for the problems with the forums and the website today, we have been experiencing denial of service attacks, and we are working to resolve them.
Just LoL.
Has anyone actually checked to see if this is a copy/paste job with the dates changes? Only I'm seriously begining to think this guys just fucking with us all. Some tubby bloke sitting in a basement msn'ing his virtual friends as they giggle about how even he can't believe people still eat this shit up.
----- The person who is certain, and who claims divine warrant for his certainty, belongs now to the infancy of our species.
I have to say, I am surprised. Not by the crap Tasos is pulling now -- that was completely expected. No, I'm surprised by the number of people who STILL believe this guy and hang on his every word. The depths of the stupidity surrounding this company and this game is just staggering, and yet people continue to believe. And if you dare question the validity of Tasos' claims or the game, you're a "hater." It is mind boggling. Ah well, back to playing real games for me. You guys enjoy your wait. I have no doubt it'll be a long one.
I believe it, Its really no diffrent then the people that were looking forward to Dark and Light. Anybody get the sudden feeling of Deja vu?
Great to hear! Really hope I get in, but I doubt it, sadly. I'm very happy to hear this, and I'm to tired to make a decant post, so I'll leave it at this.
EDIT: Replying to the silly posts above me: This is only stage one of the test, so there's probably going to be more stages, and they'll probably get rid of the NDA later on (or not at all). And, keep in mind the SOFT CAP (they can handle much more, apparently, this is just a stability cap) on the servers is 10,000. So they're going to be inviting about 20,000 of their applicants. Basically, there's quite a large chance of getting into this.
This is based on what? The post specifically states "we are not lifting the NDA until this testing is concluded". How is 20k out of 300k a "large chance of getting into this"?
This is an update about what is happening today: We have sent out the first wave of invites to clans and individual testers. We will send more waves of invites within a few hours. Invited players will be able to download the Darkfall installer. We are applying the latest patch, and players will be able to start patching soon, and entering the game. We are spacing out the invites in order to facilitate the download of the client. We will continue sending out more invites every day until we reach our capacity. Since this first phase has to do with stress testing the servers, and doing final testing on features, we are not lifting the NDA until this testing is concluded. We apologize for the problems with the forums and the website today, we have been experiencing denial of service attacks, and we are working to resolve them.
Thankyou for the update, and thanks for effort to post it here with sites being down. I was hoping for info today . (nothing worse then DOS attacks =( )
Most games DO NOT lift NDA until Open Beta. Warhammer didn't lift their NDA until open beta. What exactly were you expecting? They're still testing, adding content, adding features to the external builds. Why would they lift their NDA more than a month before release? You're a fool if you think they'd do that.
If you're going to try to quote facts at least make sure they support your argument.
You might recall Warhammer lifted it's NDA on Aug 19, 2008. The game was released on Sept 18. 2008. That's a lifted NDA one month before the release.
Aventurine should lift their NDA in 3 days if you want to compare it to WAR. I'm willing to bet Aventurine won't do that.
History has shown that we should be suspicious of any game that clings too tightly to the NDA. At least history has shown it to those who can accurately remember and learn from it.
Most games DO NOT lift NDA until Open Beta. Warhammer didn't lift their NDA until open beta. What exactly were you expecting? They're still testing, adding content, adding features to the external builds. Why would they lift their NDA more than a month before release? You're a fool if you think they'd do that.
If you're going to try to quote facts at least make sure they support your argument.
You might recall Warhammer lifted it's NDA on Aug 19, 2008. The game was released on Sept 18. 2008. That's a lifted NDA one month before the release.
Aventurine should lift their NDA in 3 days if you want to compare it to WAR. I'm willing to bet Aventurine won't do that.
History has shown that we should be suspicious of any game that clings too tightly to the NDA. At least history has shown it to those who can accurately remember and learn from it.
Another example would be LotRo.
Turbine lifted the NDA on Feb. 12th, 2007 the game was Released on April 24th, 2007
They had a full Public OPEN BETA available on April 6th, 2007
So here we have an example of an MMO who lifted their NDA almost a full month BEFORE they even started a full Public Open Beta.
I was tempted to get involved with this forum again more seriously before the delay. Even after the delay I still haven't. I think i'll continue to watch how this unfolds. It is providing me with so much amusement. *pulls up a lawn chair and grabs bag of popcorn*
In War - Victory. In Peace - Vigilance. In Death - Sacrifice.
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That is some very sound down to earth thinking. Bravo! Lets just give them some more time, about a month sounds about right.
"Time" is the ONE thing they've had plenty of...and look how well they've spent it.
Sorry, giving Aventurine more time is like giving a Milky Way to a diabetic.
That is some very sound down to earth thinking. Bravo! Lets just give them some more time, about a month sounds about right.
i dont care if its 2 months as long as the games decent then it will all be worth it but if thay release Junk then ill be mad for a min or 2 i just have high hopes for a none Cookie cutter game like DF thay might not be doing things the right way but if the end product is good it will be worth wating for
Yep.
Believing in Aventurine is now like believing in religion: there's no evidence whatsoever to support your belief, and only blind faith can sustain said belief.
Nobody will get in because its just another lie.
Lol, and all the beta leakers with screen shots of ingame footage are "hoaxes". You kids at MMORPG really have got some issues.
There are no beta leaks. There is an NDA in effect. Have you not heard?
You can do stress test OR you can keep NDA. No one has ever been able to do both at once and no one will ever be. Period.
That is some very sound down to earth thinking. Bravo! Lets just give them some more time, about a month sounds about right.
"Time" is the ONE thing they've had plenty of...and look how well they've spent it.
Sorry, giving Aventurine more time is like giving a Milky Way to a diabetic.
did Adenturine make you sit at your PC waiting for the last 7 years ? no you choose to ive know about DF for years to but i only stoped by time to time to check up on it and now that its on its home stretch im following it maybe thats why im not raging over lost time and hope everytime something doesnt go as planed i stoped closely following games in development after SB floped
Controlled beta invite with a NDA intact. So no "try before you buy", no info or videos before they start accepting money from pre-orders.
Not likeing the sound of this.
Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...
Yep I have never heard of such a thing either. An NDA for a stress test and free trial?
Come on people, something is SERIOUSLY wrong with this game.
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Nice to hear everything is going as planned.
But what should i do with my new computer if i dont get a invite? I have nothing else to play : (
Nice news.
Most games DO NOT lift NDA until Open Beta. Warhammer didn't lift their NDA until open beta. What exactly were you expecting?
They're still testing, adding content, adding features to the external builds. Why would they lift their NDA more than a month before release? You're a fool if you think they'd do that.
Nobody will get in because its just another lie.
Seems legimitate enough.
Finally the truth will be revealed........lets hope its for the better
Aperently, hope it's all we have for now, with the NDA and all.
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Back in December Tasos claimed DF was already in a state to rival released games. Any way you slice it he is lying.
As for NDA... Most NDAs are dropped weeks before release. You could argue that we are still a month out, but the news blurb states the NDA will not be dropped until testing is complete. Since this testing includes a stress test (show me another MMO that had an NDA during stress testing) chances are the NDA will be in effect up until just before release. This is odd any way you slice it.
There is no mention of an "open" beta so I am inclined to believe there will not be one.
Finally, the game you listed had far more concrete information out months before release then DF has now with about 30 days to go. This is bad any way you slice it.
-Atziluth-
- Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
Just LoL.
Has anyone actually checked to see if this is a copy/paste job with the dates changes? Only I'm seriously begining to think this guys just fucking with us all. Some tubby bloke sitting in a basement msn'ing his virtual friends as they giggle about how even he can't believe people still eat this shit up.
-----
The person who is certain, and who claims divine warrant for his certainty, belongs now to the infancy of our species.
I believe it, Its really no diffrent then the people that were looking forward to Dark and Light. Anybody get the sudden feeling of Deja vu?
This is based on what? The post specifically states "we are not lifting the NDA until this testing is concluded". How is 20k out of 300k a "large chance of getting into this"?
~Ripper
If you're going to try to quote facts at least make sure they support your argument.
You might recall Warhammer lifted it's NDA on Aug 19, 2008. The game was released on Sept 18. 2008. That's a lifted NDA one month before the release.
http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/warhammer-online/900202p1.html
Aventurine should lift their NDA in 3 days if you want to compare it to WAR. I'm willing to bet Aventurine won't do that.
History has shown that we should be suspicious of any game that clings too tightly to the NDA. At least history has shown it to those who can accurately remember and learn from it.
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If you're going to try to quote facts at least make sure they support your argument.
You might recall Warhammer lifted it's NDA on Aug 19, 2008. The game was released on Sept 18. 2008. That's a lifted NDA one month before the release.
http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/warhammer-online/900202p1.html
Aventurine should lift their NDA in 3 days if you want to compare it to WAR. I'm willing to bet Aventurine won't do that.
History has shown that we should be suspicious of any game that clings too tightly to the NDA. At least history has shown it to those who can accurately remember and learn from it.
Another example would be LotRo.
Turbine lifted the NDA on Feb. 12th, 2007 the game was Released on April 24th, 2007
They had a full Public OPEN BETA available on April 6th, 2007
So here we have an example of an MMO who lifted their NDA almost a full month BEFORE they even started a full Public Open Beta.
Yikes! Check out the ETA on those downloads.
Heh... even if legit... we might be playing before they are.
I was tempted to get involved with this forum again more seriously before the delay. Even after the delay I still haven't. I think i'll continue to watch how this unfolds. It is providing me with so much amusement. *pulls up a lawn chair and grabs bag of popcorn*
In War - Victory.
In Peace - Vigilance.
In Death - Sacrifice.