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Dark and Light atleast launched and showed what it had without 40 delays and all this total BS about having their website hacked blah blah blah, when anyone who has any experience with the internet KNOWS FULL WELL that this is a crock of steaming BS excuse
It's blatantly obvious that they shut down their own server for their forums and are now decieving the public about the reasons that their forums are down.. imagine that. Not the great Tasos ummm being "deceptive" again? Please tell me no, oh great god of your unbelievably shallow sheep fanboys.
Excuse after excuse...
Delay after Delay...
Lie after Lie...
And STILL, we have fans defending this game with every ounce of energy that they have.
Are people really this DESPERATE for something or someone (Tasos) to believe in???
Try reading and believing in Spider-Man oh beloved Darkfall fans. He is atleast consistant and Marvel doesn't sit around lying constantly trying to make people believe that he is for real as Tasos does with the fiction and BS that is "Darkfall Online".
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lets get some links of their"lie after lie" and their "excuse after excuse"
and for the delays... they have had 1 delay from their announced set date that they initially planned
Stick a fork in it - Darkfall is done.
Done in by their own producer lies and misleading....
If the game is GOOD - is it not time to present it to the public ? 1 month before release ?
What in earth can be a reason for hiding this game from public eyes ?
Tell me ?
Perfect proof backing up my OP... fanboy here appropriately named "usaTOOL" foaming at the mouth in anger of anyone that actually states the sad facts or calls out this game or the development company behind it.
Nothing further your honor.
Perfect proof backing up my OP... fanboy here appropriately named "usaTOOL" foaming at the mouth in anger of anyone that actually states the sad facts or calls out this game or the development company behind it.
Nothing further your honor.
I didn't see him "foam" at all. He simply asked you to back up your statements with evidence.
A fair request I think. If you've been 'shocked' enough by Adventurines lies and misleading statements, surely you should lets us see the actual statements?
The defence rests.
Which Final Fantasy Character Are You?
Final Fantasy 7
Perfect proof backing up my OP... fanboy here appropriately named "usaTOOL" foaming at the mouth in anger of anyone that actually states the sad facts or calls out this game or the development company behind it.
Nothing further your honor.
I didn't see him "foam" at all. He simply asked you to back up your statements with evidence.
A fair request I think. If you've been 'shocked' enough by Adventurines lies and misleading statements, surely you should lets us see the actual statements?
The defence rests.
Nope. I am NOT going to waste my time providing you with the tons of links that could be provided. It's already been done MANY times here on these forums. And neither you nor Mr Tool will actually read them anyhow, you'll just come up with some lame one liner or call me a troll or some BS.
Instead, I just invite you to watch the train wreck that is coming with this game. Continue to ride this train and then wonder why you've been burned in the end, but certainly don't come back crying saying that nobody warned you.
So instead you are going to waste your time by just spewing crap with no evidence to back up your claim but instead just say "Oooooh yes there is plenty of evidence but i'm not going to show you!"
If you want to be taken seriously (which you clearly don't since you are a TROLL) then you would provide some evidence.
2007 beta
http://www.warcry.com/articles/view/editorials/3222-Surly-s-Column-State-of-the-Game-Darkfall-Razorwax-and-Aventurin
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2005 Tasos says: Tasos Flambouras: It's getting close to the point where people will get the chance to playtest the game. If they aren't looking at Darkfall now, they'll probably wish they had been.
http://rpgvault.ign.com/articles/671/671666p3.html
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Darkfall was supposedly entering close beta testing Sept 2003.
Link broken but you can see it post #8 here. Post #8.
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/78344
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There's just a few of the LIES (besides the lies last summer of a "definite release by end of 2008" from Mr Tasos, a Jan 22 release date, and Tasos stating himself on 12/5/08 that "Darkfall is ready for release right NOW". It's more then obvious that Darkfall was not totally ready for release on 12/05/08 if it got delayed and couldn't release on 1/22/09.
- Zaxx
Perfect proof backing up my OP... fanboy here appropriately named "usaTOOL" foaming at the mouth in anger of anyone that actually states the sad facts or calls out this game or the development company behind it.
Nothing further your honor.
I didn't see him "foam" at all. He simply asked you to back up your statements with evidence.
A fair request I think. If you've been 'shocked' enough by Adventurines lies and misleading statements, surely you should lets us see the actual statements?
The defence rests.
Nope. I am NOT going to waste my time providing you with the tons of links that could be provided. It's already been done MANY times here on these forums. And neither you nor Mr Tool will actually read them anyhow, you'll just come up with some lame one liner or call me a troll or some BS.
Instead, I just invite you to watch the train wreck that is coming with this game. Continue to ride this train and then wonder why you've been burned in the end, but certainly don't come back crying saying that nobody warned you.
Ok then that's what I was looking for. Now we can proceed.
If you can't be bothered backing up your statements, admit that it's all been posted and discussed before and don't have an interest in playing the game; then why are you so concerned with making these threads? Or replying with "lolz" and "lmfao" on every other thread where some people, at least, are trying to critique and discuss certain elements of the project.
Seriously, if you can't be bothered doing something properly. Don't bother doing it at all.
Which Final Fantasy Character Are You?
Final Fantasy 7
i want you to show me some proof of a game that has been in development that has come through with everything they have said... you cant
Perfect proof backing up my OP... fanboy here appropriately named "usaTOOL" foaming at the mouth in anger of anyone that actually states the sad facts or calls out this game or the development company behind it.
Nothing further your honor.
I didn't see him "foam" at all. He simply asked you to back up your statements with evidence.
A fair request I think. If you've been 'shocked' enough by Adventurines lies and misleading statements, surely you should lets us see the actual statements?
The defence rests.
Nope. I am NOT going to waste my time providing you with the tons of links that could be provided. It's already been done MANY times here on these forums. And neither you nor Mr Tool will actually read them anyhow, you'll just come up with some lame one liner or call me a troll or some BS.
Instead, I just invite you to watch the train wreck that is coming with this game. Continue to ride this train and then wonder why you've been burned in the end, but certainly don't come back crying saying that nobody warned you.
Ok then that's what I was looking for. Now we can proceed.
If you can't be bothered backing up your statements, admit that it's all been posted and discussed before and don't have an interest in playing the game; then why are you so concerned with making these threads? Or replying with "lolz" and "lmfao" on every other thread where some people, at least, are trying to critique and discuss certain elements of the project.
Seriously, if you can't be bothered doing something properly. Don't bother doing it at all.
I think I see where the OP is coming from. As he said, you wouldn't even read links of proof of known lies as I provided you with several, and no where near all of the deceit spewed out by Mr Tasos. It does seem that you really don't care about that, but just care about blindly attacking anyone who attacks the credibility of said game.
- Zaxx
2007 beta
http://www.warcry.com/articles/view/editorials/3222-Surly-s-Column-State-of-the-Game-Darkfall-Razorwax-and-Aventurin
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2005 Tasos says: Tasos Flambouras: It's getting close to the point where people will get the chance to playtest the game. If they aren't looking at Darkfall now, they'll probably wish they had been.
http://rpgvault.ign.com/articles/671/671666p3.html
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Darkfall was supposedly entering close beta testing Sept 2003.
Link broken but you can see it post #8 here. Post #8.
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/78344
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There's just a few of the LIES (besides the lies last summer of a "definite release by end of 2008" from Mr Tasos, a Jan 22 release date, and Tasos stating himself on 12/5/08 that "Darkfall is ready for release right NOW". It's more then obvious that Darkfall was not totally ready for release on 12/05/08 if it got delayed and couldn't release on 1/22/09.
- Zaxx
See now there's a post that we do indeed have to respect. We might not agree with everything in it, or have different opinions on whether delays or claims or beta etc should be considered "lies" (remember now, dates get pushed back in the gaming industry all the time).
But at least Zaxx is advocating that we be careful of Aventurine based on evidence which he has supplied.
Which Final Fantasy Character Are You?
Final Fantasy 7
This is what I really REALLY want to know the answer to.
And here is the "one-liner" the OP said would happen IF he did spend the time to provide such proof. Proof not even looked at, read, or considered. Just a one liner attacking ALL games in blind defense, as if some how a game like WoW or Warhammer Online that have actually released and are "working" are in the same exact shoes as Darkfall is now.
- Zaxx
yeah just because things are said that are true at the time but dont end up working out doesnt mean they are out right lying about it
they have never made up shit in ways to decieve people as you are saying
Perfect proof backing up my OP... fanboy here appropriately named "usaTOOL" foaming at the mouth in anger of anyone that actually states the sad facts or calls out this game or the development company behind it.
Nothing further your honor.
I didn't see him "foam" at all. He simply asked you to back up your statements with evidence.
A fair request I think. If you've been 'shocked' enough by Adventurines lies and misleading statements, surely you should lets us see the actual statements?
The defence rests.
Nope. I am NOT going to waste my time providing you with the tons of links that could be provided. It's already been done MANY times here on these forums. And neither you nor Mr Tool will actually read them anyhow, you'll just come up with some lame one liner or call me a troll or some BS.
Instead, I just invite you to watch the train wreck that is coming with this game. Continue to ride this train and then wonder why you've been burned in the end, but certainly don't come back crying saying that nobody warned you.
Ok then that's what I was looking for. Now we can proceed.
If you can't be bothered backing up your statements, admit that it's all been posted and discussed before and don't have an interest in playing the game; then why are you so concerned with making these threads? Or replying with "lolz" and "lmfao" on every other thread where some people, at least, are trying to critique and discuss certain elements of the project.
Seriously, if you can't be bothered doing something properly. Don't bother doing it at all.
I think I see where the OP is coming from. As he said, you wouldn't even read links of proof of known lies as I provided you with several, and no where near all of the deceit spewed out by Mr Tasos. It does seem that you really don't care about that, but just care about blindly attacking anyone who attacks the credibility of said game.
- Zaxx
I disagree. I'm willing to read anything that anyone supplies. But really, it's been pretty hard to take some of the theories and criticisms seriously, because for every one person with a genuine concern, or some good information, there are 5 idiots that do them no favours by posting absolute unfounded and regurgitated garbage.
Which Final Fantasy Character Are You?
Final Fantasy 7
And here is the "one-liner" the OP said would happen IF he did spend the time to provide such proof. Proof not even looked at, read, or considered. Just a one liner attacking ALL games in blind defense, as if some how a game like WoW or Warhammer Online that have actually released and are "working" are in the same exact shoes as Darkfall is now.
- Zaxx
so your defense for everything we say.... why should i provide proof you wont even look at it?
why should we even defend against your acusasions... you arent even going to back them up...
According to patch notes they're enabling things in beta one by one and the game is coming along, leakers have confirmed it. I don't know if they'll make the 25 feb date but looking at their history i doubt they'll release the game unfinished for the sake of the date.
But i can't understand what you want. Another unifnished game launched prematurely to maximize initial profits and then die after 6 months? So that you don't have to wait to come here and stroke around your e-peen about how you don't like the game and we should give a fuck about your opinion?
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
On we sweep with threshing oar, our only goal will be the western shore."
They don't wat the general public to be exposed to so much awsomeness.
That would be a great Tasos line.
2007 beta
http://www.warcry.com/articles/view/editorials/3222-Surly-s-Column-State-of-the-Game-Darkfall-Razorwax-and-Aventurin
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2005 Tasos says: Tasos Flambouras: It's getting close to the point where people will get the chance to playtest the game. If they aren't looking at Darkfall now, they'll probably wish they had been.
http://rpgvault.ign.com/articles/671/671666p3.html
------
Darkfall was supposedly entering close beta testing Sept 2003.
Link broken but you can see it post #8 here. Post #8.
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/78344
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There's just a few of the LIES (besides the lies last summer of a "definite release by end of 2008" from Mr Tasos, a Jan 22 release date, and Tasos stating himself on 12/5/08 that "Darkfall is ready for release right NOW". It's more then obvious that Darkfall was not totally ready for release on 12/05/08 if it got delayed and couldn't release on 1/22/09.
- Zaxx
See now there's a post that we do indeed have to respect. We might not agree with everything in it, or have different opinions on whether delays or claims or beta etc should be considered "lies" (remember now, dates get pushed back in the gaming industry all the time).
But at least Zaxx is advocating that we be careful of Aventurine based on evidence which he has supplied.
Pushed back? These dates are more than simply "pushed back", they have to have been total bare-faced lies.
Because we know for a fact that darkfall has only just entered another phase of testing ---- err i mean "free trial".
If this is true.. let's just take ONE thing Tasos has said and let's make it something VERY recently.
Now try your hardest to stay on topic here bud...
On 12/05/2008, Mr Tasos said that Darkfall is completely bug free, working, and is totally ready to launch "now" (at that time on Dec 5, 2008). NOW, if the game wasn't ready to launch a month and a half later on 1/22/09, please tell me where you cannot see some level of bullshit or deception from Mr Tasos considering his statement about Darkfall being ready to release on 12/05/2008 ??
Now I know this will be tough. Please try and refrain from blind attacks on me. Let's not attack other existing and fully running games like War right now. Let's simply talk about what I asked you above. Answer that ONE question to the best of your ability and please tell me how THAT is not deceptive in your opinion.
- Zaxx
Maybe, for once, just the damned truth! Although I find all the spin, lies, smoke screens and hype entertaining.
from beta leaks they have said that the game is pretty much bug free... it is a working game.... and it could be launched from the time he said it... but they had problems with the launch because they didnt have a publisher or any way to sell it to the public they didnt have any billing system set up ect
thats the best answer i can give you... i dont think he was intentionally decieving the public... just your play on words
So much BS here..
If you are a serious company, and you want to show your ready product, you give plenty of pics/videos to the public, or free trial.
Else, you have something to hide.. or something more to hide. THATS ALL.
DF have nothing to show now, stop hiding behind lame reasons.. "more testing...","private trial..","they stress the servers.."
WAKE UP, before less that 1 month you are not able to show anything solid about your game? If you cant now, you think in 1 month you can fix everything?
WHAT!??!?!?!!!!
..No publisher?? ...Really??!??
Do I have to find links of Mr Tasos telling everyone that they had a publisher MANY MANY MONTHS ago!???
They DO have a publisher. The fans of Darkfall have been hollering about it many many times and acted as if they "won" vs the doubters of the game when the news of the publisher was announced by Mr Tasos.
So now you say that Mr Tasos LIED about the publisher many months ago?? is that REALLY where you want to go? Because, by all means I can certainly obtain links of Tasos announcing the publisher details many months ago and we can take that route. And then, ofcourse... I will ask you again the same question - "How is it that you see no deception ever from Mr Tasos?"
By the way, since their own forums are still down, here is a obvious valid link to someone providing a link to Tasos giving information the said publisher 146 days ago...
http://www.gamerdna.com/news/topic/Darkfall/Darkfall_European_vs_N_America_Launch
And that publisher is AudioVisual Enterprises SA. That has been known info for a long time. I'm just making sure you want to go this route before we do, heh.
- Zaxx
token
solid evidense of the game? there are actual people testing the game... leaked beta screen shots.... leaked beta patch notes and leaked info from people who have been varified that are in the beta... the athens video
what is so drastically wrong with the game that cant be finished in a month... explain what is wrong with it?