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How many folks will buy gold when playing Darkfall?
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This, and the fact that you cant kill anyone anywhere.
Sorry to burst everyone's bubbles, but there ARE safe zones. Every town with guards that KoS anyone who attacks someone in town makes it a very, very safe zone.
In fact, it will be MORE DIFFICULT to kill and loot someone than it would be to mug someone in real life with a gun. The towns online will be more of a safe zone than real life, right outside of the police station.
I pity those who imagine this game to have an insta-kill button on their keyboard that they click, the person dies, and they full loot them before the guards (who have downsyndrome and gimped legs) can come even 100 meters from them.
In fact, everyone should just imagine themselves with the personality of Hiei from Yu Yu Hakusho, the power of Goku from DBZ, with the badboy attitude of James Dean smoking, with the infiltration of Solid Snake with a nuclear bomb and jetpack rocketship to escape with- while every victim is a newb with downsyndrome in real life, downsyndrome in game, and every guard is a quadrapalegic downsyndrome npc that is so stupid they attack the victim while spamming "STOP THIEF! STOP THIEF! STOP THIEF!"
You are going to be SO powerful in Darkfall, and everyone else SO incompetant and idiotic- you will be able to ROFLSTOMP them and Full L00tz and disappear into the shadows before anyone can even ask what happened. There are no safe zones! Not for you. But you will always be safe, bc those downsyndrome guards are going to be so weak, puny, and stupid they wont be able to ever catch you or even damage you. In fact just riverdance around them and ROFLMAO they'll jsut TK each other with friendship fire!
Dont they also have towers in every town that pretty much nukes killers/thieves/murderers?
There are 3 types of people in the world.
1.) Those who make things happen
2.) Those who watch things happen
3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
Props to your name. Zhang Fei is awesome. Else I wouldve flamed you, lol
Trading in town will be easy. Killing someone in town will be next to impossible.
This, and the fact that you cant kill anyone anywhere.
Sorry to burst everyone's bubbles, but there ARE safe zones. Every town with guards that KoS anyone who attacks someone in town makes it a very, very safe zone.
In fact, it will be MORE DIFFICULT to kill and loot someone than it would be to mug someone in real life with a gun. The towns online will be more of a safe zone than real life, right outside of the police station.
I pity those who imagine this game to have an insta-kill button on their keyboard that they click, the person dies, and they full loot them before the guards (who have downsyndrome and gimped legs) can come even 100 meters from them.
In fact, everyone should just imagine themselves with the personality of Hiei from Yu Yu Hakusho, the power of Goku from DBZ, with the badboy attitude of James Dean smoking, with the infiltration of Solid Snake with a nuclear bomb and jetpack rocketship to escape with- while every victim is a newb with downsyndrome in real life, downsyndrome in game, and every guard is a quadrapalegic downsyndrome npc that is so stupid they attack the victim while spamming "STOP THIEF! STOP THIEF! STOP THIEF!"
You are going to be SO powerful in Darkfall, and everyone else SO incompetant and idiotic- you will be able to ROFLSTOMP them and Full L00tz and disappear into the shadows before anyone can even ask what happened. There are no safe zones! Not for you. But you will always be safe, bc those downsyndrome guards are going to be so weak, puny, and stupid they wont be able to ever catch you or even damage you. In fact just riverdance around them and ROFLMAO they'll jsut TK each other with friendship fire!
Dont they also have towers in every town that pretty much nukes killers/thieves/murderers?
Yes. Thank you. I entirely forgot about that. Wow. It's even safer than I thought.
Dont listen to this guy. He is a farmer using some type of mind control. Talkin about havin fun spending your hard earned money to buy fake money and callin it fun. I think someone is crazy here. I would rather work hard towards my goals then cheat. It is called "Honor".
Dont listen to this guy. He is a farmer using some type of mind control. Talkin about havin fun spending your hard earned money to buy fake money and callin it fun. I think someone is crazy here. I would rather work hard towards my goals then cheat. It is called "Honor".
So if everyone played WARHAMMER- then you would grind in boredom for HOURS upon HOURS to get 10 gold, when you could simply pay $2 USD for 100 gold?
All for........HONOR?
Because that's how much 100 gold costs for warhammer. Two. Dollars. That means if you just started a new toon, you could get all the best gear until level 20 for less than $5 USD. Never have to grind. Do nothing but PLAY the game. PvP being the most powerful, twinked asskicker ever, destroying everyone else with superb quality with the best potions and never any problem lacking anything. All of that entertainment, stress-free, work-free, totally easy-going, fun-loving week for only $5 extra.
Shank the gold farmer in the back as he is about to send off the gold to the "Purchasee." I wonder if the gold farmers companiy gives refunds for "unexpected gankage"
So if everyone played WARHAMMER- then you would grind in boredom for HOURS upon HOURS to get 10 gold, when you could simply pay $2 USD for 100 gold?
All for........HONOR?
Because that's how much 100 gold costs for warhammer. Two. Dollars. That means if you just started a new toon, you could get all the best gear until level 20 for less than $5 USD. Never have to grind. Do nothing but PLAY the game. PvP being the most powerful, twinked asskicker ever, destroying everyone else with superb quality with the best potions and never any problem lacking anything. All of that entertainment, stress-free, work-free, totally easy-going, fun-loving week for only $5 extra.
I did play warhammer for a bit, until i got bored. I didnt need to buy any gold and my maruader was doin just fine. Truth is I respect the the agreement i made when I registered for the game. I imagine gettin bored becuase i would not have a challenge if I was too powerful.
You really think it's going to be economical for people to farm out of that game period?
I really don't think it'd be worth it for them.
And if you expect to be cheap, think again, it would probably be very expensive as there is a large element of risk involved.
I would be less worried about gold farmers than killbots and account hackers.
It seems obviously more lucrative to get a small "raiding" party together of killbots whom will go after random people, pk them, take all their loot and beeline to the trader to generate the gold, as opposed to a small band or lone farmer somewhere just killing mobs. If you buy gold, you will be giving them your name, in which case, they could put you on some sort of friend's list. Then they can track your movements and come take back what you haven't spent, plus the gear you spent it on- and sell it or use it to upgrade the bots.
Also with the website problems they have been having, I am almost certain account hacking will be a rampant issue, right from the start. When that happens, who needs in-game gold, when its possible to get the real deal?
Some might throw a foil hat at it, but with Adventurine's record, it has to be considered.
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You make a valid point.
Someone buying gold from a farmer can also be a victim of the same farmer.
Say they sell you the gold. You meet in a 'safe location' far from the prying eyes of others. As he gives you the gold you bought, his friend starts to follow you. Before you can get to the bank he ganks you and takes the gold his pal just sold to you and heads to town.
There are 3 types of people in the world.
1.) Those who make things happen
2.) Those who watch things happen
3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
I will not buy fools gold...
Bandit.
Asbo
If a gold farmer kills his own customers- he will go bankrupt.
It's asinine to think that any gold-selling company (regardless if they PK innocents or grind npcs for that gold) would kill their own customers.
You know, the biggest thing is how cheap gold is. They cannot possible make any money unless all those who buy gold are REPEAT customers, who repeatedly buy gold after they use it, keeping the company/group in business.
Lose those customers, and you will not make enough money to pay your employees, just as in any business (except Tobacco and drug dealers...lmao)
Okay let me add a clause.
****Addiction doesn't count.
You make a valid point.
Someone buying gold from a farmer can also be a victim of the same farmer.
Say they sell you the gold. You meet in a 'safe location' far from the prying eyes of others. As he gives you the gold you bought, his friend starts to follow you. Before you can get to the bank he ganks you and takes the gold his pal just sold to you and heads to town.
This will never happen outside of non-company solo scammers (and anyone who gives some random guy their credit card is a retard)
For one, any reputable gold seller will trade right by the bank, for both their safety and the safety of their repeat customer.
Second... do you even THINK about your ideas and how they might be wrong, or do you just spew out any imaginations and assume "It CAN happen, so it WILL!"
If a gold farmer kills his own customers- he will go bankrupt.
It's asinine to think that any gold-selling company (regardless if they PK innocents or grind npcs for that gold) would kill their own customers.
You know, the biggest thing is how cheap gold is. They cannot possible make any money unless all those who buy gold are REPEAT customers, who repeatedly buy gold after they use it, keeping the company/group in business.
Lose those customers, and you will not make enough money to pay your employees, just as in any business (except Tobacco and drug dealers...lmao)
Okay let me add a clause.
****Addiction doesn't count.
Look at it from this angle though.
The gold seller might not gank you, but he may have a friend who is waiting for the transaction to be complete and the seller to log off before he ganks you and recovers the gold.
There are 3 types of people in the world.
1.) Those who make things happen
2.) Those who watch things happen
3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
You really think it's going to be economical for people to farm out of that game period?
I really don't think it'd be worth it for them.
And if you expect to be cheap, think again, it would probably be very expensive as there is a large element of risk involved.
Yes, because Darkfall isn't going to be a gankfest where anyone can press a "Kill newb" button.
In fact... the latest argument says it's very difficult for someone to die.
Out of a fight of 35 vs 10, only 5 of the 35 died, and only 1-2 of the 10 died. Everyone else lived.
This was in a FFA Open PvP Area, not a safe zone with NPC guards and Tower Guards that will WTFpwn anyone trying to attack others inside city limits.
Dont listen to this guy. He is a farmer using some type of mind control. Talkin about havin fun spending your hard earned money to buy fake money and callin it fun. I think someone is crazy here. I would rather work hard towards my goals then cheat. It is called "Honor".
So if everyone played WARHAMMER- then you would grind in boredom for HOURS upon HOURS to get 10 gold, when you could simply pay $2 USD for 100 gold?
All for........HONOR?
Because that's how much 100 gold costs for warhammer. Two. Dollars. That means if you just started a new toon, you could get all the best gear until level 20 for less than $5 USD. Never have to grind. Do nothing but PLAY the game. PvP being the most powerful, twinked asskicker ever, destroying everyone else with superb quality with the best potions and never any problem lacking anything. All of that entertainment, stress-free, work-free, totally easy-going, fun-loving week for only $5 extra.
you are just a complete loser if you think buying gold is in any way a viable way to play the game. But I sincerely hope you do so that when you buy your nice gear everyone can come take it from you and trash it for the simple fact that it came from being bought. And yea, while grinding levels may be boring a) there is no fucking levels ya fuck, and b) the whole point in playing a game is to progress your character and not step in with maxed out abilities, wtf fun is in that? I honestly hope you do tho because you will obviously have no idea how to play your character and it would be great enjoyment to see you getting ganked over and over for being such an ass.
Dont listen to this guy. He is a farmer using some type of mind control. Talkin about havin fun spending your hard earned money to buy fake money and callin it fun. I think someone is crazy here. I would rather work hard towards my goals then cheat. It is called "Honor".
So if everyone played WARHAMMER- then you would grind in boredom for HOURS upon HOURS to get 10 gold, when you could simply pay $2 USD for 100 gold?
All for........HONOR?
Because that's how much 100 gold costs for warhammer. Two. Dollars. That means if you just started a new toon, you could get all the best gear until level 20 for less than $5 USD. Never have to grind. Do nothing but PLAY the game. PvP being the most powerful, twinked asskicker ever, destroying everyone else with superb quality with the best potions and never any problem lacking anything. All of that entertainment, stress-free, work-free, totally easy-going, fun-loving week for only $5 extra.
you are just a complete loser if you think buying gold is in any way a viable way to play the game. But I sincerely hope you do so that when you buy your nice gear everyone can come take it from you and trash it for the simple fact that it came from being bought. And yea, while grinding levels may be boring a) there is no fucking levels ya fuck, and b) the whole point in playing a game is to progress your character and not step in with maxed out abilities, wtf fun is in that? I honestly hope you do tho because you will obviously have no idea how to play your character and it would be great enjoyment to see you getting ganked over and over for being such an ass.
"Ganked over and over" ...... Pulls up a Chair to watch. Yepper it would happen.
You are a loser if you find it more economical and fun to buy gold/characters instead of grind them.
Hmmm...
Let's just look at that statement for a second.
I'm glad that some find "honor" in upholding the integrity of a system that is basically designed to bilk you for cash for as long as possible, but others find that concept a bit more than silly. I personally don't buy gold. But I'm 23, my responsibilities are pretty low, as is my amount of cash. It's pretty easy for me to see why someone who doesn't live my slacker lifestyle would buy gold or characters.
RE: the other topic of gold sellers, someone said:
These guys buy accounts by the boatload. In every other game, people have "found" gold sellers because that one Troll Hunter was grinding mobs in the same place for a week. Stationary bot grinders will probably be hunted to extinction in this game, so I doubt that any gold sellers will be known to anyone besides the person who opens their mail after paying some cash. heh, or maybe to the luck person who kills one en route to a mailbox and gets a pretty fat stash.On a third note, lets not be idiots and pretend that "no levels" is the same as "no grinding". Leveling weapon skill and crafting was some of the least fun I've had playing WoW. Sounds awesome to know they're going that route with....everything.
Grinding mats will also still need to be done. Or buying the mats with gold.
This is why people will buy gold, they don't want to grind the mats to build their boat / town.
Makes you wonder why they would even chose this game. But then again, I never understood paying someone else to play your game for you anyway.
The poll result looks reasuring though.
I bet people buying gold in darkfall will have the surprise to encounter, just after the meeting with the goldseller and before reaching the bank, a big gang of not english speaking naked thugs.
It would be stupid for gold farmers to waste gold when they can re-loot it.
It won't be possible to send gold or items via ingame mail like in wow, and you can be attacked even in cities. So...I say good luck to anyone going to risk real money for ingame gold...
"Thank you for your business.Come back anytime you need gold"
"Thank you Mr Xioxio, I will"
*Xioxio signals to his friends who then gank the buyer and steals all the gold*
"Hey, looks like you could use some gold real cheap!"
There are 3 types of people in the world.
1.) Those who make things happen
2.) Those who watch things happen
3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
Well you know as soon as it comes up in chat that someone is selling gold they will probably get killed. There is no global chat which will hinder them greatly. Gold farmers in general as they get found out will probably get jacked repeatedly. Then buying gold I could only see as something to use to buy resources to increase the speed at which you can build a city, but if you didn't have the means to get those resources legitimately it doesn't seem that you would be able to defend whatever you built, or keep it from getting stolen.
Just a heads up also. I know a group of players that won't be in the same guild, but kind of have a pact to put up a fake website for buying gold and upon meeting in game, will kill the person, put them on a KoS gold buyer list, and otherwise shun them. They won't take any money, but mainly just want to discredit and humiliate people who buy gold.
Since there is one char per server you can't just use an alt to do shady things like this. Reputation will become pretty important.
the only people who buy gold online are losers. plain and simple
Just as many as every other mmo game!!
Why dont they just make gold "bind on pickup" ?
If a gold farmer kills his own customers- he will go bankrupt.
It's asinine to think that any gold-selling company (regardless if they PK innocents or grind npcs for that gold) would kill their own customers.
You know, the biggest thing is how cheap gold is. They cannot possible make any money unless all those who buy gold are REPEAT customers, who repeatedly buy gold after they use it, keeping the company/group in business.
Lose those customers, and you will not make enough money to pay your employees, just as in any business (except Tobacco and drug dealers...lmao)
Okay let me add a clause.
****Addiction doesn't count.
Actually, there is not a clear way to really know who is giving the gold and who is taking it. There is far more than one gold farming company. The random lvl 1 bot that spams chat, and probably distributes the gold, exists usually mere minutes on the account of the farmer. The actual toons that DO the farming are usually guildless and operate in small groups. It would be extremely easy for them to make the groups into raiding parties for you when you have left town, as your toon name will be on their lists. Here is a scenerio:
CHAT SPAM:
NJKN23213: buy cheap gold at $1US/ 100gold rates! only at DFGold.com!
NJKN23123: distributes gold to player Buyngpwnzor
Buyngpwnzor is added to 6 random toon's friend's list
Buyngpwnzor leaves town to hunt mobs or other players with his new uber gear.
Buyngpwnzor sees small group. waves at group.
Group kills Buyngpwnzor. Loots equipment and gold. Beelines to nearby mailing system to mail gold to new distribution toon.
Rinse, repeat.
With full loot being far more lucrative than mob killing in DF, you can BET scenerios like this will happenm and poor Buyngpwnzor will never know if that group was a random pk party, or the farming company since the pking didn't happen immediately.
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Tried- L2, Ryzom, WAR, DDO, PWI, Tab Rasa, Requiem, Champs, AA, JD, PWI, SUN, Dawntide
Played- SWG (pre-cu), AoC, VG, WoW, LoTRO,CoX, EQ2, DAOC, GW, PotBS, Aion, MO,APB, NASA, Fallen Earth, DCUO, Rift
Playing- EVE, Black Prophecy, TOR
Waiting for- Tera, Jumpgate Evo, WH40K, WWE, WOD, TSW
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"Hey, if Activision liked it, then they should have put a ring on it," Double Fine President Tim Schafer said. "Oh great, now Beyonce is going to sue me too."