Originally posted by hvc801 Damn, you're just a hater... nuff said.
So, I am a "hater" for wanting to breathe clean air and expecting politeness from inconsiderate people?
No... You're a hater because you cry like a baby about it. Why hate so much, obviously you're only walking inside a building, which what... takes 1.4 seconds? Who cares... People smoke, atleast its outside and not inside.. Be greatfull they made it that ways.
Read up on the effect of second hand smoke, even for 1.4 seconds of exposure. I wasn't aware one was being a cry baby when they are concerned of their health. I'll be sure to have a group hug and cry on my peers shoulders next time I go to the gym.
Originally posted by hvc801 Damn, you're just a hater... nuff said.
So, I am a "hater" for wanting to breathe clean air and expecting politeness from inconsiderate people?
No... You're a hater because you cry like a baby about it. Why hate so much, obviously you're only walking inside a building, which what... takes 1.4 seconds? Who cares... People smoke, atleast its outside and not inside.. Be greatfull they made it that ways.
Read up on the effect of second hand smoke, even for 1.4 seconds of exposure. I wasn't aware one was being a cry baby when they are concerned of their health. I'll be sure to have a group hug and cry on my peers shoulders next time I go to the gym.
So do you not drive a car? Or at least turn it off / go around when any pedestrians are within 10 feet of it? Because sucking on exhaust fumes can't be good for people.
Originally posted by Sabiancym So do you not drive a car? Or at least turn it off / go around when any pedestrians are within 10 feet of it? Because sucking on exhaust fumes can't be good for people. You're grasping for straws here.
Originally posted by Sabiancym So do you not drive a car? Or at least turn it off / go around when any pedestrians are within 10 feet of it? Because sucking on exhaust fumes can't be good for people. You're grasping for straws here.
Originally posted by Sabiancym So do you not drive a car? Or at least turn it off / go around when any pedestrians are within 10 feet of it? Because sucking on exhaust fumes can't be good for people. You're grasping for straws here.
Sorry bud, but you're the one grasping.
Nuh uh, you are.
Gotta love supporting arguments....
Let's just say that if I was living in China, or any other country with less strict laws for emission output, you would be right.
Originally posted by hvc801 Damn, you're just a hater... nuff said.
So, I am a "hater" for wanting to breathe clean air and expecting politeness from inconsiderate people?
No... You're a hater because you cry like a baby about it. Why hate so much, obviously you're only walking inside a building, which what... takes 1.4 seconds? Who cares... People smoke, atleast its outside and not inside.. Be greatfull they made it that ways.
Read up on the effect of second hand smoke, even for 1.4 seconds of exposure. I wasn't aware one was being a cry baby when they are concerned of their health. I'll be sure to have a group hug and cry on my peers shoulders next time I go to the gym.
I think its paranoid much.. Honestly... Do you shelter yourself from everything that is the slightest bit harmfull?? Do you drink??
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Originally posted by Hazmal
What does he say when people ask what he did? "My mommy was irking me yo - I wanted to keep pwning nubs on my xbox, so I roughed her up with a hardshell. That is just how I roll."
I credit marijuana with saving my life. I had/have a drinking problem, and alcohol was eating up my life about fifteen years ago or so. It was hurting my friendships and almost cost me the woman I love. The couple of car accidents I had also weren't very pretty.
I decided, one december long ago, to stop. I tried to go to AA, and they pushed so much religion down my throat I left with a bad taste in my mouth. At the time I was an agnostic and so it really bugged me. So, I started smoking pot regularly, to take the edge off my need for drink. I smoked daily for about a year, and then eventually, when I knew I would no longer want to drink, weaned myself off smoke.
Now I know my issue is not the same as everyone's, and anecdotes don't prove anything, but I used self-medication for a very postive effect.
Originally posted by hvc801 Damn, you're just a hater... nuff said.
So, I am a "hater" for wanting to breathe clean air and expecting politeness from inconsiderate people?
No... You're a hater because you cry like a baby about it. Why hate so much, obviously you're only walking inside a building, which what... takes 1.4 seconds? Who cares... People smoke, atleast its outside and not inside.. Be greatfull they made it that ways.
Read up on the effect of second hand smoke, even for 1.4 seconds of exposure. I wasn't aware one was being a cry baby when they are concerned of their health. I'll be sure to have a group hug and cry on my peers shoulders next time I go to the gym.
Originally posted by Dekron Originally posted by hvc801 Originally posted by Dekron Originally posted by hvc801 Originally posted by Dekron Originally posted by hvc801 Damn, you're just a hater... nuff said.
So, I am a "hater" for wanting to breathe clean air and expecting politeness from inconsiderate people?
No... You're a hater because you cry like a baby about it. Why hate so much, obviously you're only walking inside a building, which what... takes 1.4 seconds? Who cares... People smoke, atleast its outside and not inside.. Be greatfull they made it that ways. Read up on the effect of second hand smoke, even for 1.4 seconds of exposure. I wasn't aware one was being a cry baby when they are concerned of their health. I'll be sure to have a group hug and cry on my peers shoulders next time I go to the gym. Do you drink?? Water, 100% fruit juice, Nakeds.
From REUTERS...
Fruit juice tied to modest rise in diabetes risk Fri Jul 11, 2008 3:02pm EDT
By Anne Harding
NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - Women wanting to ward off type 2 diabetes should load their plates with green leafy vegetables and whole fruits, but perhaps stay away from fruit juice, new research suggests.
Eating an additional three servings of whole fruit daily, or one more serving of spinach, kale or similar leafy green vegetable was tied to a lower risk of developing diabetes over an 18-year period among 71,346 women enrolled in the Nurses' Health Study.
"It was a modest decrease," Dr. Lydia A. Bazzano of Tulane University School of Public Health and Tropical Medicine, New Orleans, told Reuters Health. "This is not going to...prevent it if you have many, many risk factors and you're overweight...it's a tool in the prevention strategy."
Bazzano and colleagues analyzed data on the diets of Nurses' Health Study participants -- 4,529 of whom developed type 2 diabetes while they were being followed. They divided women into five groups based on fruit and vegetable intake, and also grouped them based on fruit juice consumption.
They found that an increase of three servings a day of whole fruit was associated with an 18 percent lower risk of type 2 diabetes, while a single additional serving of leafy green vegetables cut the risk by 9 percent. However, an additional daily serving of fruit juice increased the likelihood of developing diabetes by 18 percent.
While the findings must be replicated, Bazzano said, there are plausible mechanisms by which fruit juice could increase risk. "It's a big sugar load and it comes in a liquid form which is absorbed rapidly," she noted.
The findings, the study team concludes, suggest that "caution should be observed in replacing some beverages with fruit juices in an effort to provide healthier options. The same caution applies to the recommendation that 100 percent fruit juice be considered a serving of fruit as it is in the present national dietary guidelines."
SOURCE: Diabetes Care, July 2008.
Hope you aren't a woman. Even if you're not, I'd get a blood test. You never know.
hey, i was trolling through this forum an read all the pros an cons of all your arguements but everyone seems to neglect one fact about marijuana
marijuana is a plant that has been on the planet since the dawn of time
it is not manufactured or chemically altered to make it smokable it is naturual
you have all these arguments about how marijuana is a drug and it should be illegal but in actuallity its a plant that is not made into marijuana.
alochol comes from grain yes? after its manufactured into it.
heroin comes from poppys yes? after it is made into heroin by a CHEMIST
crack comes from coca leaves yes? yes correct crack comes from coca leaves that are made into cocaine by CHEMISTS and them cooked into crack by gangstars
my point is you dont see people rolling down the street smokin a coca leaf joint
or muchin on some grains to get a buzz do you?
there is no reason why marijuana should be illegal besides the simple fact that the government will have to hard of a time to tax it.
The CDS issue is about 587 TRILLION DOLLARS as of today on top of national and international soveriegn debts and etc. I hate threads like this. Reminds me of when that prostitute said that leaving bars open until 4 am in California could solve its financial problems.
___________________ Sadly, I see storm clouds on the horizon. A faint stench of Vanguard is in the air.-Kien
Originally posted by Gazenthia The CDS issue is about 587 TRILLION DOLLARS as of today on top of national and international soveriegn debts and etc. I hate threads like this. Reminds me of when that prostitute said that leaving bars open until 4 am in California could solve its financial problems.
Now that you mention prostitution, its legal in Nevada and theres no huge spike in crime from it, it hasn't caused all sorts of crazy nonsense other than Victorian age religious groups QQing about it, and it provides additional tax revenues for state and local governments. Things like marijuana and prostitution are not supposed to solve financial problems automatically anymore than cigarettes, alcohol or porn can solve them. Its just additional revenue that keeps the onus off of taxpayers. No one is forcing you to go visit your local ho or smoke a doobie.
The CDS issue is about 587 TRILLION DOLLARS as of today on top of national and international soveriegn debts and etc. I hate threads like this. Reminds me of when that prostitute said that leaving bars open until 4 am in California could solve its financial problems.
Now that you mention prostitution, its legal in Nevada and theres no huge spike in crime from it, it hasn't caused all sorts of crazy nonsense other than Victorian age religious groups QQing about it, and it provides additional tax revenues for state and local governments. Things like marijuana and prostitution are not supposed to solve financial problems automatically anymore than cigarettes, alcohol or porn can solve them. Its just additional revenue that keeps the onus off of taxpayers. No one is forcing you to go visit your local ho or smoke a doobie.
Seriously, what is wrong with that?
The assertion that Marijuana will fix the economy is absurd, I think we can all agree on that. Actually, it may not even help at all. Until it is decriminalized we won't know. And there's the great conundrum, the unknown. The only options we have are:
Look back to when it was legal and see what affect it had on communities then. Well, if you've ever seen Refer Madness, then you know the deck was stacked to criminalize it, as the scenes depicted in that film were classic propaganda.
Or...
Listen to the accounts of people who actually use Marijuana. This rarely gains any traction, because these people are actively engaging in criminal activity, which brings their character into question.
The point is, it's ridiculous that Marijuana is illegal. The reasons it was initially criminalized were nothing more than propaganda, since proven false across the board. The thrust then was one based in class and race warfare, nothing more. A war which the powers that be wish to continue fighting, along with wars against prostitution, gay rights, and any other activity judged by those who have no personal experience, yet craft laws based on speculation and here say.
All of the claims that legalizing these activities will ruin the economy, skyrocket crime, cause mass lawsuits, etc. have not panned out in the areas that have decriminalized or overlooked these activities.
As long as you send people to jail for these "crimes", you have a 100% iron-clad example of it being "criminal behavior". How convenient.
The point is, it's ridiculous that Marijuana is illegal. The reasons it was initially criminalized were nothing more than propaganda, since proven false across the board. The thrust then was one based in class and race warfare, nothing more. A war which the powers that be wish to continue fighting, along with wars against prostitution, gay rights, and any other activity judged by those who have no personal experience, yet craft laws based on speculation and here say.
Had a funny thought of the guy who first proposed banning Marijuana back in the early 1900's and the reason that got him to do so:
Bible thumping, Whiskey drinking businessman: "Hey you guys sitting there.. wanna come to work in my factory?"
Wild west pot smokers: "What for?"
Bible thumping, Whiskey drinking businessman: "Firstly, so you can make money and buy better houses and get more stuff."
WWPS: "Uhh.. we don't want all that *toke* stuff. We're cool."
Bible thumping, Whiskey drinking businessman: "Well, think of the benefits of working.. you get pride in yourself, your community and God will smile on you."
WWPS: "*toke*.. well. I have enough rabbits to shoot, a house already and a comfortable living now *toke*.. thanks but no thanks."
Bible thumping, Whiskey drinking businessman: "Say, what's that stuff you keep smoking on there?"
WWPS: "Some weeds we saw the Indians smoking instead of drinking, and it tastes better than that rotgut the saloon sells.. goes down smoother and relaxes you *toke* and.. it's free."
Bible thumping, Whiskey drinking businessman: "Hm.. you don't want MORE money or better jobs? I think that weed has made you loco. That's it.. Locoweed. You need to leave that stuff alone and get some drive and energy and help build this great nation. Its from those savages anyways, so I know its from Satan."
WWPS: *toke* " ... whatever, dude.. *toke*"
Bible thumping, Whiskey drinking businessman: "That stuff has got to be from the Devil, man. You sit around all day, laughing and in a fog. I'm gonna see about making legislation to banning this evil stuff. It's pure evil."
WWPS: "*toke* "Knock yourself out, pardna.. this stuff grows all around here in the wild. Good luck banning that. Might as well try banning cactus, haha!" *toke*
The CDS issue is about 587 TRILLION DOLLARS as of today on top of national and international soveriegn debts and etc. I hate threads like this. Reminds me of when that prostitute said that leaving bars open until 4 am in California could solve its financial problems.
Now that you mention prostitution, its legal in Nevada and theres no huge spike in crime from it, it hasn't caused all sorts of crazy nonsense other than Victorian age religious groups QQing about it, and it provides additional tax revenues for state and local governments. Things like marijuana and prostitution are not supposed to solve financial problems automatically anymore than cigarettes, alcohol or porn can solve them. Its just additional revenue that keeps the onus off of taxpayers. No one is forcing you to go visit your local ho or smoke a doobie.
Seriously, what is wrong with that?
The assertion that Marijuana will fix the economy is absurd, I think we can all agree on that. Actually, it may not even help at all. Until it is decriminalized we won't know.
I guess everyone here takes things way to literally. I guess I'll change the topic of the thread to
The assertion that Marijuana will fix the economy is absurd, I think we can all agree on that. Actually, it may not even help at all. Until it is decriminalized we won't know.
I guess everyone here takes things way to literally. I guess I'll change the topic of the thread to
"Helping the economy by legalizng marijuana."
Perhaps I should have been more specific. There is money to be made in the cultivation and sales of Marijuana. This is easily proven by the number of people who use it even though it's illegal to do so. The reason it may not necessarily help the economy is because the money used in other recreational activities and treatments might shift to Marijuana, making that aspect net neutral. Prescription drug use will decline. Alcohol use will decline. Tobacco use will decline. These are the industries that pay the lobbyists who lobby against drug law reform.
The war on drugs employees many many people. Wardens, guards, police officers, attorneys, judges, bailiffs, probation/parole officers....the list goes on and on.
The drug war is big business. There are far too many people making a living from it to simply say legalizing it will help the economy.
Even though I completely agree that Marijuana should be legal for personal use, it's quite scary to think about all the people who would be out of work if decriminalization were to become a reality.
So what if we could instantly create a multi-billion dollar industry instantly? Legalizing marijuana could be the ticket. 9 billion taxpayer dollars a year is spent on prosecuting and incarcerating people breaking marijuana laws. That is on top of however much is spent on government programs to keep it illegal and prosecute those who break the laws. So with the economy in the crapper. Why can't we legalize marijuana, tax it just like tobacco, and turn that $9 billion a year loss into a big profit. It's been proven many many times that marijuana is no more dangerous than alcohol and tobacco. You can't be killed by consuming too much of it (unlike alcohol), and smoking it causes the same lung damage that tobacco does. Driving under the influence would still be illegal, and an age limit would be in place to prevent minors from using it.
So really. Other than the nutballs who think smoking weed makes you a serial killer, what valid arguments against legaling marijuana are there that don't apply to other completely legal substances?
They would actually lose money due to this supporting the judicial system. It is easy to detect , stays in the system a long time and is a cash crop for easy fines. They make more money off of fines than they would make in Tax revenue.. pretty simple.
Originally posted by Sabiancym What the hell are you talking about? Hemp contains what? .3% THC. You would have to smoke a pound of it within an hour to feel anything.
I'm not speaking of THC. Let me rephrase - you know not of the chemical additives in marijuna. I'm not speaking of natural chemicals found within the plant.
Isn't it dopamine produced in your brain that is addictive? THC just trigger it..
Originally posted by Sabiancym What the hell are you talking about? Hemp contains what? .3% THC. You would have to smoke a pound of it within an hour to feel anything.
I'm not speaking of THC. Let me rephrase - you know not of the chemical additives in marijuna. I'm not speaking of natural chemicals found within the plant.
Isn't it dopamine produced in your brain that is addictive? THC just trigger it..
Our body produces dopamine by itself, different chemicals effect dopamine receptors if thats what you mean (THC is not one of them, thc effects the canniboid system in our brain doesnt do much if anything to dopamine in our brain). And no it is not addictive, not physically at least. Its about as addictive as world of warcraft which to some really is a psycological addiction.
They would actually lose money due to this supporting the judicial system. It is easy to detect , stays in the system a long time and is a cash crop for easy fines. They make more money off of fines than they would make in Tax revenue.. pretty simple.
There are many more reasons as to why mariuana is illegal. My keyboard is broken, less than half of the keys function and it is hard to work with the remaining ones, so stay with me here.
Mariuana is illegal for additional reasons far more profound than money. It is largely being used by criminals and criminal enterprises, and can be easily tracked and prosecuted. It is a common staple of crappy and high-risk sub-cultures where criminals are bred. IE this is a way of removing or at least tagging very serious offenders and getting them in the system or off the street before they do serious harm to someone.
So there you go, two reasons why this will never be legalized. 1- The pot sub-cultures will never vindicate themselves, the reputation is one they have earned themselves, and therefor they will never be legitimized. 2- It is a very easy, useful way of getting and keeping criminals under thumb.
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So, I am a "hater" for wanting to breathe clean air and expecting politeness from inconsiderate people?
No... You're a hater because you cry like a baby about it. Why hate so much, obviously you're only walking inside a building, which what... takes 1.4 seconds? Who cares... People smoke, atleast its outside and not inside.. Be greatfull they made it that ways.
Read up on the effect of second hand smoke, even for 1.4 seconds of exposure. I wasn't aware one was being a cry baby when they are concerned of their health. I'll be sure to have a group hug and cry on my peers shoulders next time I go to the gym.
He's gone down from it's dangerous and will kill you to it smells bad.
I'd say that's a win.
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So, I am a "hater" for wanting to breathe clean air and expecting politeness from inconsiderate people?
No... You're a hater because you cry like a baby about it. Why hate so much, obviously you're only walking inside a building, which what... takes 1.4 seconds? Who cares... People smoke, atleast its outside and not inside.. Be greatfull they made it that ways.
Read up on the effect of second hand smoke, even for 1.4 seconds of exposure. I wasn't aware one was being a cry baby when they are concerned of their health. I'll be sure to have a group hug and cry on my peers shoulders next time I go to the gym.
So do you not drive a car? Or at least turn it off / go around when any pedestrians are within 10 feet of it? Because sucking on exhaust fumes can't be good for people.
You're grasping for straws here.
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I didn't go down from one to the other. The issues are related. It's harmful to the body and makes you smell like shit.
Sorry bud, but you're the one grasping.
Sorry bud, but you're the one grasping.
Nuh uh, you are.
Gotta love supporting arguments....
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Sorry bud, but you're the one grasping.
Nuh uh, you are.
Gotta love supporting arguments....
Let's just say that if I was living in China, or any other country with less strict laws for emission output, you would be right.
So, I am a "hater" for wanting to breathe clean air and expecting politeness from inconsiderate people?
No... You're a hater because you cry like a baby about it. Why hate so much, obviously you're only walking inside a building, which what... takes 1.4 seconds? Who cares... People smoke, atleast its outside and not inside.. Be greatfull they made it that ways.
Read up on the effect of second hand smoke, even for 1.4 seconds of exposure. I wasn't aware one was being a cry baby when they are concerned of their health. I'll be sure to have a group hug and cry on my peers shoulders next time I go to the gym.
I think its paranoid much.. Honestly... Do you shelter yourself from everything that is the slightest bit harmfull?? Do you drink??
______________________________
What if Paul Revere was like the boy who cried wolf....?
Originally posted by Hazmal
What does he say when people ask what he did? "My mommy was irking me yo - I wanted to keep pwning nubs on my xbox, so I roughed her up with a hardshell. That is just how I roll."
I credit marijuana with saving my life. I had/have a drinking problem, and alcohol was eating up my life about fifteen years ago or so. It was hurting my friendships and almost cost me the woman I love. The couple of car accidents I had also weren't very pretty.
I decided, one december long ago, to stop. I tried to go to AA, and they pushed so much religion down my throat I left with a bad taste in my mouth. At the time I was an agnostic and so it really bugged me. So, I started smoking pot regularly, to take the edge off my need for drink. I smoked daily for about a year, and then eventually, when I knew I would no longer want to drink, weaned myself off smoke.
Now I know my issue is not the same as everyone's, and anecdotes don't prove anything, but I used self-medication for a very postive effect.
Still sober btw.
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So, I am a "hater" for wanting to breathe clean air and expecting politeness from inconsiderate people?
No... You're a hater because you cry like a baby about it. Why hate so much, obviously you're only walking inside a building, which what... takes 1.4 seconds? Who cares... People smoke, atleast its outside and not inside.. Be greatfull they made it that ways.
Read up on the effect of second hand smoke, even for 1.4 seconds of exposure. I wasn't aware one was being a cry baby when they are concerned of their health. I'll be sure to have a group hug and cry on my peers shoulders next time I go to the gym.
Do you drink??
Water, 100% fruit juice, Nakeds.
No... You're a hater because you cry like a baby about it. Why hate so much, obviously you're only walking inside a building, which what... takes 1.4 seconds? Who cares... People smoke, atleast its outside and not inside.. Be greatfull they made it that ways.
Read up on the effect of second hand smoke, even for 1.4 seconds of exposure. I wasn't aware one was being a cry baby when they are concerned of their health. I'll be sure to have a group hug and cry on my peers shoulders next time I go to the gym.
Do you drink??
Water, 100% fruit juice, Nakeds.
From REUTERS...
Hope you aren't a woman. Even if you're not, I'd get a blood test. You never know.
"TO MICHAEL!"
hey, i was trolling through this forum an read all the pros an cons of all your arguements but everyone seems to neglect one fact about marijuana
marijuana is a plant that has been on the planet since the dawn of time
it is not manufactured or chemically altered to make it smokable it is naturual
you have all these arguments about how marijuana is a drug and it should be illegal but in actuallity its a plant that is not made into marijuana.
alochol comes from grain yes? after its manufactured into it.
heroin comes from poppys yes? after it is made into heroin by a CHEMIST
crack comes from coca leaves yes? yes correct crack comes from coca leaves that are made into cocaine by CHEMISTS and them cooked into crack by gangstars
my point is you dont see people rolling down the street smokin a coca leaf joint
or muchin on some grains to get a buzz do you?
there is no reason why marijuana should be illegal besides the simple fact that the government will have to hard of a time to tax it.
Stand back, ill take care of this
The CDS issue is about 587 TRILLION DOLLARS as of today on top of national and international soveriegn debts and etc. I hate threads like this. Reminds me of when that prostitute said that leaving bars open until 4 am in California could solve its financial problems.
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Now that you mention prostitution, its legal in Nevada and theres no huge spike in crime from it, it hasn't caused all sorts of crazy nonsense other than Victorian age religious groups QQing about it, and it provides additional tax revenues for state and local governments. Things like marijuana and prostitution are not supposed to solve financial problems automatically anymore than cigarettes, alcohol or porn can solve them. Its just additional revenue that keeps the onus off of taxpayers. No one is forcing you to go visit your local ho or smoke a doobie.
Seriously, what is wrong with that?
"TO MICHAEL!"
Now that you mention prostitution, its legal in Nevada and theres no huge spike in crime from it, it hasn't caused all sorts of crazy nonsense other than Victorian age religious groups QQing about it, and it provides additional tax revenues for state and local governments. Things like marijuana and prostitution are not supposed to solve financial problems automatically anymore than cigarettes, alcohol or porn can solve them. Its just additional revenue that keeps the onus off of taxpayers. No one is forcing you to go visit your local ho or smoke a doobie.
Seriously, what is wrong with that?
The assertion that Marijuana will fix the economy is absurd, I think we can all agree on that. Actually, it may not even help at all. Until it is decriminalized we won't know. And there's the great conundrum, the unknown. The only options we have are:
Or...
The point is, it's ridiculous that Marijuana is illegal. The reasons it was initially criminalized were nothing more than propaganda, since proven false across the board. The thrust then was one based in class and race warfare, nothing more. A war which the powers that be wish to continue fighting, along with wars against prostitution, gay rights, and any other activity judged by those who have no personal experience, yet craft laws based on speculation and here say.
All of the claims that legalizing these activities will ruin the economy, skyrocket crime, cause mass lawsuits, etc. have not panned out in the areas that have decriminalized or overlooked these activities.
As long as you send people to jail for these "crimes", you have a 100% iron-clad example of it being "criminal behavior". How convenient.
Had a funny thought of the guy who first proposed banning Marijuana back in the early 1900's and the reason that got him to do so:
Bible thumping, Whiskey drinking businessman: "Hey you guys sitting there.. wanna come to work in my factory?"
Wild west pot smokers: "What for?"
Bible thumping, Whiskey drinking businessman: "Firstly, so you can make money and buy better houses and get more stuff."
WWPS: "Uhh.. we don't want all that *toke* stuff. We're cool."
Bible thumping, Whiskey drinking businessman: "Well, think of the benefits of working.. you get pride in yourself, your community and God will smile on you."
WWPS: "*toke*.. well. I have enough rabbits to shoot, a house already and a comfortable living now *toke*.. thanks but no thanks."
Bible thumping, Whiskey drinking businessman: "Say, what's that stuff you keep smoking on there?"
WWPS: "Some weeds we saw the Indians smoking instead of drinking, and it tastes better than that rotgut the saloon sells.. goes down smoother and relaxes you *toke* and.. it's free."
Bible thumping, Whiskey drinking businessman: "Hm.. you don't want MORE money or better jobs? I think that weed has made you loco. That's it.. Locoweed. You need to leave that stuff alone and get some drive and energy and help build this great nation. Its from those savages anyways, so I know its from Satan."
WWPS: *toke* " ... whatever, dude.. *toke*"
Bible thumping, Whiskey drinking businessman: "That stuff has got to be from the Devil, man. You sit around all day, laughing and in a fog. I'm gonna see about making legislation to banning this evil stuff. It's pure evil."
WWPS: "*toke* "Knock yourself out, pardna.. this stuff grows all around here in the wild. Good luck banning that. Might as well try banning cactus, haha!" *toke*
"TO MICHAEL!"
Now that you mention prostitution, its legal in Nevada and theres no huge spike in crime from it, it hasn't caused all sorts of crazy nonsense other than Victorian age religious groups QQing about it, and it provides additional tax revenues for state and local governments. Things like marijuana and prostitution are not supposed to solve financial problems automatically anymore than cigarettes, alcohol or porn can solve them. Its just additional revenue that keeps the onus off of taxpayers. No one is forcing you to go visit your local ho or smoke a doobie.
Seriously, what is wrong with that?
The assertion that Marijuana will fix the economy is absurd, I think we can all agree on that. Actually, it may not even help at all. Until it is decriminalized we won't know.
I guess everyone here takes things way to literally. I guess I'll change the topic of the thread to
"Helping the economy by legalizng marijuana."
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I guess everyone here takes things way to literally. I guess I'll change the topic of the thread to
"Helping the economy by legalizng marijuana."
Perhaps I should have been more specific. There is money to be made in the cultivation and sales of Marijuana. This is easily proven by the number of people who use it even though it's illegal to do so. The reason it may not necessarily help the economy is because the money used in other recreational activities and treatments might shift to Marijuana, making that aspect net neutral. Prescription drug use will decline. Alcohol use will decline. Tobacco use will decline. These are the industries that pay the lobbyists who lobby against drug law reform.
The war on drugs employees many many people. Wardens, guards, police officers, attorneys, judges, bailiffs, probation/parole officers....the list goes on and on.
The drug war is big business. There are far too many people making a living from it to simply say legalizing it will help the economy.
Even though I completely agree that Marijuana should be legal for personal use, it's quite scary to think about all the people who would be out of work if decriminalization were to become a reality.
They would actually lose money due to this supporting the judicial system. It is easy to detect , stays in the system a long time and is a cash crop for easy fines. They make more money off of fines than they would make in Tax revenue.. pretty simple.
You'd really do that to the poor, defenseless tobacco companies? You heartless bastard!
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I'm not speaking of THC. Let me rephrase - you know not of the chemical additives in marijuna. I'm not speaking of natural chemicals found within the plant.
Isn't it dopamine produced in your brain that is addictive? THC just trigger it..
I'm not speaking of THC. Let me rephrase - you know not of the chemical additives in marijuna. I'm not speaking of natural chemicals found within the plant.
Isn't it dopamine produced in your brain that is addictive? THC just trigger it..
Our body produces dopamine by itself, different chemicals effect dopamine receptors if thats what you mean (THC is not one of them, thc effects the canniboid system in our brain doesnt do much if anything to dopamine in our brain). And no it is not addictive, not physically at least. Its about as addictive as world of warcraft which to some really is a psycological addiction.
There are many more reasons as to why mariuana is illegal. My keyboard is broken, less than half of the keys function and it is hard to work with the remaining ones, so stay with me here.
Mariuana is illegal for additional reasons far more profound than money. It is largely being used by criminals and criminal enterprises, and can be easily tracked and prosecuted. It is a common staple of crappy and high-risk sub-cultures where criminals are bred. IE this is a way of removing or at least tagging very serious offenders and getting them in the system or off the street before they do serious harm to someone.
So there you go, two reasons why this will never be legalized. 1- The pot sub-cultures will never vindicate themselves, the reputation is one they have earned themselves, and therefor they will never be legitimized. 2- It is a very easy, useful way of getting and keeping criminals under thumb.
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legalizing marijuana use will pose a different problems. Social order and public safety will be at risk, I assume.