newsflash the game has been delayed lots of times laready.
This game was feature complete, and in better condintion than alot of the mmos already on the market, so we were told, and now you people keep saying delay. Hell they may as well delay the game indefinatley then. Bloody fanbois firts kept syaing the game is in superb condition, it has internal testing by professioanls, and its in the ebst condition ever, now all of a sudden it should be kept being delayed???? make your minds up fanbois, does what Tasos say hold any truth at all, or is he just the biggest bullshiter in gaming history. lOl at so called professinal testers, lol at simulated hundrerds of people pvp, lol at the ai, lol at eevrythign about this game. now its just beyond a joke. You fanbois just keep syaing dont worry its coming out, and then when the date changes, dont woryr its coming out soon, and now when the date changes again , it will be ebcause you dont want a rushed game. get a fuucking grip on reality.
Tasos isn't lying, the only reason he delayed is because he didn't expect the "sudden popularity" of this game and he, and his publisher, were not prepared. Probably the stupidest, most half-baked and most lame ass excuse from an MMO dev ever (that I've seen anyways! I'm sure some were worse...)
Come on, don't you look at the forums at all Tasos? Too busy doing...whatever you do to notice that you have like, what, 300K people there? And you expect him to run this game with any competence. Good luck DF fanbois, good luck.
The reason for the next delay, if it happens, will be that he fell down the stairs and broke a nail (or face) because a hater troll spy pushed him down.
-------------------------------------- A human and an Elf get captured by Skaven. The rat-men are getting ready to shoot the first hostage with Dwarf-made guns when he yells, "Earthquake!" The naturally nervous Skaven run and hide from the imaginary threat. He escapes. The Skaven regroup and bring out the Elf. Being very smart, the Elf has figured out what to do. When the Skaven get ready to shoot, the Elf, in order to scare them, yells, "Fire!"
LOL what pre-orders, this game is coming out in less then 18 days and there is not 1 info on pre order or sub or anything that matters, i was waiting for this game now i find out all the limits to the game . Add to that the characters look worse then eq 1 and move about the same , and not 3rd person view by choice.. what is it are we so bad off that we take any pvp ffa as scraps of food for the poor ?
And your whole reasoning behind bitching is that you can't have your PvE only character? This game obviously isn't for people like you then and you seem to be missing the entire point behind DF. If you want a PvE only game there is plenty of them out there so why even get on these forums and post? This game is trying to cater to a small niche of gamers that want to see specific things in a game. We finally got the game we have been looking for then people like you come and bitch about how you will be open to PvP at any time and can't have your PvE only flagged character.....
There is plenty of other games out there for ya bro because this one obviously isn't for you if your scared to get killed by other people. Stop bitching about features that many have been waiting for since UO came to an end.
Well mjones you just showed me why fanbois are lost , even in the videos that AV put out and in the interviews they say it is PvP/PvE we want all to feel part of this world.. looks like you need to see what is happening at church Darkfall ! that is why they offer a special program the puts out new content, this is from there site so look it up. and the have epic monster to hunt , i guess just to bother you PvPer and get in your way.. Plus fanbois say crafting has no meaning, cause armor and weapons will be chaep .. no need we are not here to armor grind, but in the interviews T himself says crafting is a big part of the market.. i think noone knows what is in this game or what it will be .. if anything
Hehe , the funny thing is get a life part, my kid was 9 when they started this game and is now in college, will it be out in my life or is it a pre oder i can leave to my children ?
Reading of Sanedor's Will:
"To my Children I leave my pre order for Darkfall and my PC with Keyboard and Mouse..."
Reading of Sanedor's childrens Will:
"To our children we leave Grampa's Darkfall pre order..."
Grandchild 1: "Sweet! I read on the holo-net that this game is gonna be awesome!"
Grandchild 2: "Nuh-uh! It looks like crap!"
Grandchild 1: "STFU nub, its still in debug mode"
D's grandchild: "It sfehk kklue su tasos is gawd"
Grandchild 1 & 2: "What the $%#^ did he just say?!"
This "game" conforms to every rule associated with a failed MMO.
The lack of official media (except for canned and repetitive videos), the secrecy this close to launch and the endless string of broken promises (now including release dates with another delay coming I'll wager).
Sirs,
I present you with DarkFAIL; and I assure you it will.
It's not that I want it to, but given the circumstances, this game is either going to be indefinitely delayed, released in a half finished state (reads : Broken) or cancelled.
Tasos isn't lying, the only reason he delayed is because he didn't expect the "sudden popularity" of this game and he, and his publisher, were not prepared. Probably the stupidest, most half-baked and most lame ass excuse from an MMO dev ever (that I've seen anyways! I'm sure some were worse...) Come on, don't you look at the forums at all Tasos? Too busy doing...whatever you do to notice that you have like, what, 300K people there? And you expect him to run this game with any competence. Good luck DF fanbois, good luck. The reason for the next delay, if it happens, will be that he fell down the stairs and broke a nail (or face) because a hater troll spy pushed him down.
Yes, DF will be delayed, yes Tasos made a statement he couldn`t deliver and yes you trolls are right in almost all claims. When they delay it it will be because they listen to their testers.
It`s no use to defend DF for what state it is right now, but we can defend what kind of game it can be if Aventurine get some more time to fix the most obvious flaws. I just wish the devs could be more open on whats going on right now, because all info we get is from youtube, betaleak forums and friends.
I know some in here really want the game to come out the 25 feb. But if it does you better start hyping Earthrise or MO, because DF atm will fail. The game isn`t ready for a release yet. Give it a month or two and we`ll all be happy....I hope.
And yes, I will preorder two copies of DF when I get the chance.
This "game" conforms to every rule associated with a failed MMO. The lack of official media (except for canned and repetitive videos), the secrecy this close to launch and the endless string of broken promises (now including release dates with another delay coming I'll wager). Sirs, I present you with DarkFAIL; and I assure you it will. It's not that I want it to, but given the circumstances, this game is either going to be indefinitely delayed, released in a half finished state (reads : Broken) or cancelled. Flame me, call me a troll, whatever. Time will tell. S
Rofl... so dramatic. The game wont get canceled. Thats 100% fact. It will either be released digitaly first then with dvd packaging second, or it will be delayed and released at some other date in 2009.
Theres a lot that goes into setting up and developing a mmorpg. They have the mmorpg, but the rest still needs to be established... example: account page for billing, licensing rights, legal work, planning for the distribution, possible rating needed...ect Its not just the game, but the whole process that gets complicated, and even more so if you are a first timer into the industry.
When Tasos said the game is feature complete, I think he must have been meaning to say, Feature rich. We can all agree hes not the best person for their PR work, and is trying a bit too hard. That doesnt change the quality of the product however.
You can have 500 people finishing a job in 5 minutes, or you can have 5 people finishing the same job in 500 minutes. The point is, DF's team is small. Very small. Time is necessary factor, nothing more and its quite clear that it is close (not is, but close) to a releasable state via leaked vids.
LOL what pre-orders, this game is coming out in less then 18 days and there is not 1 info on pre order or sub or anything that matters, i was waiting for this game now i find out all the limits to the game . Add to that the characters look worse then eq 1 and move about the same , and not 3rd person view by choice.. what is it are we so bad off that we take any pvp ffa as scraps of food for the poor ?
And your whole reasoning behind bitching is that you can't have your PvE only character? This game obviously isn't for people like you then and you seem to be missing the entire point behind DF. If you want a PvE only game there is plenty of them out there so why even get on these forums and post? This game is trying to cater to a small niche of gamers that want to see specific things in a game. We finally got the game we have been looking for then people like you come and bitch about how you will be open to PvP at any time and can't have your PvE only flagged character.....
There is plenty of other games out there for ya bro because this one obviously isn't for you if your scared to get killed by other people. Stop bitching about features that many have been waiting for since UO came to an end.
Well mjones you just showed me why fanbois are lost , even in the videos that AV put out and in the interviews they say it is PvP/PvE we want all to feel part of this world.. looks like you need to see what is happening at church Darkfall ! that is why they offer a special program the puts out new content, this is from there site so look it up. and the have epic monster to hunt , i guess just to bother you PvPer and get in your way.. Plus fanbois say crafting has no meaning, cause armor and weapons will be chaep .. no need we are not here to armor grind, but in the interviews T himself says crafting is a big part of the market.. i think noone knows what is in this game or what it will be .. if anything
Trust me I'm no fanboy. I like the idea behind the game and the feature list it has but it pretty much stops there. I really dislike Aventurine and how they are treating their customers. DF looks ok to me and I'll most likely try it but in the end I will probably be playing Mortal Online once that comes out. It looks much better imo.
This "game" conforms to every rule associated with a failed MMO. The lack of official media (except for canned and repetitive videos), the secrecy this close to launch and the endless string of broken promises (now including release dates with another delay coming I'll wager). Sirs, I present you with DarkFAIL; and I assure you it will. It's not that I want it to, but given the circumstances, this game is either going to be indefinitely delayed, released in a half finished state (reads : Broken) or cancelled. Flame me, call me a troll, whatever. Time will tell. S
Rofl... so dramatic. The game wont get canceled. Thats 100% fact. It will either be released digitaly first then with dvd packaging second, or it will be delayed and released at some other date in 2009.
Theres a lot that goes into setting up and developing a mmorpg. They have the mmorpg, but the rest still needs to be established... example: account page for billing, licensing rights, legal work, planning for the distribution, possible rating needed...ect Its not just the game, but the whole process that gets complicated, and even more so if you are a first timer into the industry.
When Tasos said the game is feature complete, I think he must have been meaning to say, Feature rich. We can all agree hes not the best person for their PR work, and is trying a bit too hard. That doesnt change the quality of the product however.
You can have 500 people finishing a job in 5 minutes, or you can have 5 people finishing the same job in 500 minutes. The point is, DF's team is small. Very small. Time is necessary factor, nothing more and its quite clear that it is close (not is, but close) to a releasable state via leaked vids.
I never said it WOULD be cancelled, thats one of 3 possible outcomes I presented. There is absolutely no drama here and the fact that you still want to use Aventurine's size as an excuse for their ineptitude is laughable.
8 years and no game, I guess due to the size of the company, we should give them 10 or 12. That's not even remotely realistic.
3DREALMS are the laughing stock of the gaming community because of DN3F, but in that case, because of 3DREALM's previous work, I have some modicum of hope that it will be a good game, or at least passable.
Aventurine has no previous work to back up all these delays, excuses and promises and if you base your postulations on the shenanigans assosciated with other MMOs, this game is done for. It really will have to be some kind of miracle in order to live up to the hype, which I simply refuse to believe that it is.
This "game" conforms to every rule associated with a failed MMO. The lack of official media (except for canned and repetitive videos), the secrecy this close to launch and the endless string of broken promises (now including release dates with another delay coming I'll wager). Sirs, I present you with DarkFAIL; and I assure you it will. It's not that I want it to, but given the circumstances, this game is either going to be indefinitely delayed, released in a half finished state (reads : Broken) or cancelled. Flame me, call me a troll, whatever. Time will tell. S
Rofl... so dramatic. The game wont get canceled. Thats 100% fact. It will either be released digitaly first then with dvd packaging second, or it will be delayed and released at some other date in 2009.
Theres a lot that goes into setting up and developing a mmorpg. They have the mmorpg, but the rest still needs to be established... example: account page for billing, licensing rights, legal work, planning for the distribution, possible rating needed...ect Its not just the game, but the whole process that gets complicated, and even more so if you are a first timer into the industry.
When Tasos said the game is feature complete, I think he must have been meaning to say, Feature rich. We can all agree hes not the best person for their PR work, and is trying a bit too hard. That doesnt change the quality of the product however.
You can have 500 people finishing a job in 5 minutes, or you can have 5 people finishing the same job in 500 minutes. The point is, DF's team is small. Very small. Time is necessary factor, nothing more and its quite clear that it is close (not is, but close) to a releasable state via leaked vids.
This is part of the problem , when darkfall started this game with this graphics it was good , even great .. but now its like sending people frozen to another system, it will take them 500 years to get there, when they final arrive we have already made starships and got there 450 years ago and built city, but hey their ship was state of the art for its time.. they tried to much and had not the people or the money. now they are removing content and playing it off as bad or not needed..
This "game" conforms to every rule associated with a failed MMO. The lack of official media (except for canned and repetitive videos), the secrecy this close to launch and the endless string of broken promises (now including release dates with another delay coming I'll wager). Sirs, I present you with DarkFAIL; and I assure you it will. It's not that I want it to, but given the circumstances, this game is either going to be indefinitely delayed, released in a half finished state (reads : Broken) or cancelled. Flame me, call me a troll, whatever. Time will tell. S
Rofl... so dramatic. The game wont get canceled. Thats 100% fact. It will either be released digitaly first then with dvd packaging second, or it will be delayed and released at some other date in 2009.
Theres a lot that goes into setting up and developing a mmorpg. They have the mmorpg, but the rest still needs to be established... example: account page for billing, licensing rights, legal work, planning for the distribution, possible rating needed...ect Its not just the game, but the whole process that gets complicated, and even more so if you are a first timer into the industry.
When Tasos said the game is feature complete, I think he must have been meaning to say, Feature rich. We can all agree hes not the best person for their PR work, and is trying a bit too hard. That doesnt change the quality of the product however.
You can have 500 people finishing a job in 5 minutes, or you can have 5 people finishing the same job in 500 minutes. The point is, DF's team is small. Very small. Time is necessary factor, nothing more and its quite clear that it is close (not is, but close) to a releasable state via leaked vids.
I never said it WOULD be cancelled, thats one of 3 possible outcomes I presented. There is absolutely no drama here and the fact that you still want to use Aventurine's size as an excuse for their ineptitude is laughable.
8 years and no game, I guess due to the size of the company, we should give them 10 or 12. That's not even remotely realistic.
3DREALMS are the laughing stock of the gaming community because of DN3F, but in that case, because of 3DREALM's previous work, I have some modicum of hope that it will be a good game, or at least passable.
Aventurine has no previous work to back up all these delays, excuses and promises and if you base your postulations on the shenanigans assosciated with other MMOs, this game is done for. It really will have to be some kind of miracle in order to live up to the hype, which I simply refuse to believe that it is.
Regards,
S
The highlighted part: Here in lies the problem. YOU giving THEM? pft. Adventurine owes you NOTHING. Its their project, not yours. They will give YOU the game when its ready. Why do some of you feel entitled to everything? It is not realistic for the world to revolve around their wants.
Good companies dont give a crap what the whiney gamers want. They do their own thing with their own game, and if you like it, good, if not, then too bad. Who cares what Tasos says, I sure as hell dont. He doesnt owe you anything, and its quite obvious he's not cut out to be doing any PR work. Simple as that.
This is part of the problem , when darkfall started this game with this graphics it was good , even great .. but now its like sending people frozen to another system, it will take them 500 years to get there, when they final arrive we have already made starships and got there 450 years ago and built city, but hey their ship was state of the art for its time.. they tried to much and had not the people or the money. now they are removing content and playing it off as bad or not needed..
Stop over exaggerating you big baby. The graphics look good and are quite stylized. Even a year from now they will still be good. Like all large none zoned sand box mmorpgs, you have to keep polycount models to a minimal, or else its not playable. No game can escape this with our current level of technology (available to the mass market).
The devs tracker had a thread in which a dev explained that with the Beta, the settings have been locked to medium or lower. If DF were to come out today, or next year, its stylistic approach will still look good, and do the job it set out to do. Games are not just about graphics either.
500 years later? pfttlol This year or next. Thats it.
This "game" conforms to every rule associated with a failed MMO. The lack of official media (except for canned and repetitive videos), the secrecy this close to launch and the endless string of broken promises (now including release dates with another delay coming I'll wager). Sirs, I present you with DarkFAIL; and I assure you it will. It's not that I want it to, but given the circumstances, this game is either going to be indefinitely delayed, released in a half finished state (reads : Broken) or cancelled. Flame me, call me a troll, whatever. Time will tell. S
Rofl... so dramatic. The game wont get canceled. Thats 100% fact. It will either be released digitaly first then with dvd packaging second, or it will be delayed and released at some other date in 2009.
Theres a lot that goes into setting up and developing a mmorpg. They have the mmorpg, but the rest still needs to be established... example: account page for billing, licensing rights, legal work, planning for the distribution, possible rating needed...ect Its not just the game, but the whole process that gets complicated, and even more so if you are a first timer into the industry.
When Tasos said the game is feature complete, I think he must have been meaning to say, Feature rich. We can all agree hes not the best person for their PR work, and is trying a bit too hard. That doesnt change the quality of the product however.
You can have 500 people finishing a job in 5 minutes, or you can have 5 people finishing the same job in 500 minutes. The point is, DF's team is small. Very small. Time is necessary factor, nothing more and its quite clear that it is close (not is, but close) to a releasable state via leaked vids.
I never said it WOULD be cancelled, thats one of 3 possible outcomes I presented. There is absolutely no drama here and the fact that you still want to use Aventurine's size as an excuse for their ineptitude is laughable.
8 years and no game, I guess due to the size of the company, we should give them 10 or 12. That's not even remotely realistic.
3DREALMS are the laughing stock of the gaming community because of DN3F, but in that case, because of 3DREALM's previous work, I have some modicum of hope that it will be a good game, or at least passable.
Aventurine has no previous work to back up all these delays, excuses and promises and if you base your postulations on the shenanigans assosciated with other MMOs, this game is done for. It really will have to be some kind of miracle in order to live up to the hype, which I simply refuse to believe that it is.
Regards,
S
The highlighted part: Here in lies the problem. YOU giving THEM? pft. Adventurine owes you NOTHING. Its their project, not yours. They will give YOU the game when its ready. Why do some of you feel entitled to everything? It is not realistic for the world to revolve around their wants.
Good companies dont give a crap what the whiney gamers want. They do their own thing with their own game, and if you like it, good, if not, then too bad. Who cares what Tasos says, I sure as hell dont. He doesnt owe you anything, and its quite obvious he's not cut out to be doing any PR work. Simple as that.
Yup, its their game, and at this rate, they'll be the only ones playing it. I suggest you avail yourself of the hard truths of business and the acumen associated with it.
Your apologist attitude has now extended to admitting that Tasos is inept while maintaining that Aventurine is going to release a game for "Non whiney" gamers such as yourself as opposed to "whiney" gamers (realists) who understand that all the bad omens add up to a failure and NOT a success.
A (THE) representative (the public face) of Aventurine makes them look completely unqualified for the task they have undertaken. I mean, thats no big deal right. /sarcasm off
Good luck with your reasoning. We'll find out soon enough who is right.
This "game" conforms to every rule associated with a failed MMO. The lack of official media (except for canned and repetitive videos), the secrecy this close to launch and the endless string of broken promises (now including release dates with another delay coming I'll wager). Sirs, I present you with DarkFAIL; and I assure you it will. It's not that I want it to, but given the circumstances, this game is either going to be indefinitely delayed, released in a half finished state (reads : Broken) or cancelled. Flame me, call me a troll, whatever. Time will tell. S
Rofl... so dramatic. The game wont get canceled. Thats 100% fact. It will either be released digitaly first then with dvd packaging second, or it will be delayed and released at some other date in 2009.
Theres a lot that goes into setting up and developing a mmorpg. They have the mmorpg, but the rest still needs to be established... example: account page for billing, licensing rights, legal work, planning for the distribution, possible rating needed...ect Its not just the game, but the whole process that gets complicated, and even more so if you are a first timer into the industry.
When Tasos said the game is feature complete, I think he must have been meaning to say, Feature rich. We can all agree hes not the best person for their PR work, and is trying a bit too hard. That doesnt change the quality of the product however.
You can have 500 people finishing a job in 5 minutes, or you can have 5 people finishing the same job in 500 minutes. The point is, DF's team is small. Very small. Time is necessary factor, nothing more and its quite clear that it is close (not is, but close) to a releasable state via leaked vids.
I never said it WOULD be cancelled, thats one of 3 possible outcomes I presented. There is absolutely no drama here and the fact that you still want to use Aventurine's size as an excuse for their ineptitude is laughable.
8 years and no game, I guess due to the size of the company, we should give them 10 or 12. That's not even remotely realistic.
3DREALMS are the laughing stock of the gaming community because of DN3F, but in that case, because of 3DREALM's previous work, I have some modicum of hope that it will be a good game, or at least passable.
Aventurine has no previous work to back up all these delays, excuses and promises and if you base your postulations on the shenanigans assosciated with other MMOs, this game is done for. It really will have to be some kind of miracle in order to live up to the hype, which I simply refuse to believe that it is.
Regards,
S
The highlighted part: Here in lies the problem. YOU giving THEM? pft. Adventurine owes you NOTHING. Its their project, not yours. They will give YOU the game when its ready. Why do some of you feel entitled to everything? It is not realistic for the world to revolve around their wants.
Good companies dont give a crap what the whiney gamers want. They do their own thing with their own game, and if you like it, good, if not, then too bad. Who cares what Tasos says, I sure as hell dont. He doesnt owe you anything, and its quite obvious he's not cut out to be doing any PR work. Simple as that.
Heh... it's Aventurine.
I agree with you about Tasos. The company should have dumped him years ago. I much prefer Claus doing all the talking. He is much more informative and a lot less abrasive.
Aventurine needs to do what Funcom did with Gaute (sp?).
The problem that DarkFall finds itself in is that if they do not Release soon (as in the next few months)... their "window" of opportunity will pass them by.
A couple years ago DarkFall was pretty much the only MMO that was promising to offer the world they claim to be building. That is not the case today. There are getting to be a fair number of other MMOs claiming Feature sets very similar to DarkFall's.
Most of those other MMOs won't be ready for about another year or so. Give or take a few months. That gives DarkFall a few months yet to get things finished and then Release. It needs to be done right... otherwise the subs will dry up quick as soon as the next MMO releases.
DarkFall will need to Release this year... or not at all.
Anyone who preorders Darkfall is helping to prove that distribution of money in the developed world is directly correlated to intelligence. Because anyone who spends one dollar on Darkfall before anyone gets to play it deserves to lose that dollar.
I've gotten inside the beta and played Darkfall, and I will deffinately be pre-ordering it.
Anyone who preorders Darkfall is helping to prove that distribution of money in the developed world is directly correlated to intelligence. Because anyone who spends one dollar on Darkfall before anyone gets to play it deserves to lose that dollar.
Yeah, most of us can afford it. How's it over in the 3rd world?
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Anyone who preorders Darkfall is helping to prove that distribution of money in the developed world is directly correlated to intelligence. Because anyone who spends one dollar on Darkfall before anyone gets to play it deserves to lose that dollar.
Yeah, most of us can afford it. How's it over in the 3rd world?
He and his family are one preorder away from eating clay dirt pies.
DarkFall will propably get delayed again for a year..so please stay away for the next months from the game
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Hypothetical situation... The game doesn't have most of the features that are listed and the gameplay/UI needs reworking would you still want the game to be released? I hope the game is delayed till Summer or later because first impressions will kill a game if they aren't good. See WoW as being good and AOC bad.
Hypothetical situation... The game doesn't have most of the features that are listed and the gameplay/UI needs reworking would you still want the game to be released? I hope the game is delayed till Summer or later because first impressions will kill a game if they aren't good. See WoW as being good and AOC bad.
Doesn't matter. They'll release it now because it's quite obvious they can release absolute crap, their devoted cult will buy it, and then they can string at least half of them along for a years worth of subscription while they "promise to fix it" and delay each patch over and over again. I'd say they could probably get two to three years of revenue from these suckers before the last of them bailed out. Hell, if development is any indication and they play their cards right, maybe even eight years.
Hehe , the funny thing is get a life part, my kid was 9 when they started this game and is now in college, will it be out in my life or is it a pre oder i can leave to my children ?
Reading of Sanedor's Will:
"To my Children I leave my pre order for Darkfall and my PC with Keyboard and Mouse..."
Reading of Sanedor's childrens Will:
"To our children we leave Grampa's Darkfall pre order..."
Grandchild 1: "Sweet! I read on the holo-net that this game is gonna be awesome!"
Grandchild 2: "Nuh-uh! It looks like crap!"
Grandchild 1: "STFU nub, its still in debug mode"
D's grandchild: "It sfehk kklue su tasos is gawd"
Grandchild 1 & 2: "What the $%#^ did he just say?!"
Delay + "open" beta + preorders. When they have enough preordes, that is, enough money to pay the most urgent credits, then they will lift NDA and release and then it's every man for himself.
They dont make a profit off of pre-orders. All pre-orders can be canceled. Its used mainly for more efficient distribution and general idea on size of initial subs.
All depends on how you do pre-orders doesn't it Aventurine shill/employ?
Since you can't walk into Gamestop and plunk down $5 for the pre-order then cancel I would bet you will have to give them CC info and pay for the whole amount upfront.
Good luck getting any money back on that scam, ask the DnL pre-order people what they got back unless they fought with Farcelan and their CC companies.
That is why pre-orders on a DDL only distribution reeks of scam. If I have a box in hand from a reputable retailer then I have leverage, on the internet you have nothing.
Anyone who preorders Darkfall is helping to prove that distribution of money in the developed world is directly correlated to intelligence. Because anyone who spends one dollar on Darkfall before anyone gets to play it deserves to lose that dollar.
Yeah, most of us can afford it. How's it over in the 3rd world?
He and his family are one preorder away from eating clay dirt pies.
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Tasos isn't lying, the only reason he delayed is because he didn't expect the "sudden popularity" of this game and he, and his publisher, were not prepared. Probably the stupidest, most half-baked and most lame ass excuse from an MMO dev ever (that I've seen anyways! I'm sure some were worse...)
Come on, don't you look at the forums at all Tasos? Too busy doing...whatever you do to notice that you have like, what, 300K people there? And you expect him to run this game with any competence. Good luck DF fanbois, good luck.
The reason for the next delay, if it happens, will be that he fell down the stairs and broke a nail (or face) because a hater troll spy pushed him down.
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A human and an Elf get captured by Skaven. The rat-men are getting ready to shoot the first hostage with Dwarf-made guns when he yells, "Earthquake!" The naturally nervous Skaven run and hide from the imaginary threat. He escapes. The Skaven regroup and bring out the Elf. Being very smart, the Elf has figured out what to do. When the Skaven get ready to shoot, the Elf, in order to scare them, yells, "Fire!"
Order of the White Border.
And your whole reasoning behind bitching is that you can't have your PvE only character? This game obviously isn't for people like you then and you seem to be missing the entire point behind DF. If you want a PvE only game there is plenty of them out there so why even get on these forums and post? This game is trying to cater to a small niche of gamers that want to see specific things in a game. We finally got the game we have been looking for then people like you come and bitch about how you will be open to PvP at any time and can't have your PvE only flagged character.....
There is plenty of other games out there for ya bro because this one obviously isn't for you if your scared to get killed by other people. Stop bitching about features that many have been waiting for since UO came to an end.
Well mjones you just showed me why fanbois are lost , even in the videos that AV put out and in the interviews they say it is PvP/PvE we want all to feel part of this world.. looks like you need to see what is happening at church Darkfall ! that is why they offer a special program the puts out new content, this is from there site so look it up. and the have epic monster to hunt , i guess just to bother you PvPer and get in your way..
Plus fanbois say crafting has no meaning, cause armor and weapons will be chaep .. no need we are not here to armor grind, but in the interviews T himself says crafting is a big part of the market.. i think noone knows what is in this game or what it will be .. if anything
Reading of Sanedor's Will:
"To my Children I leave my pre order for Darkfall and my PC with Keyboard and Mouse..."
Reading of Sanedor's childrens Will:
"To our children we leave Grampa's Darkfall pre order..."
Grandchild 1: "Sweet! I read on the holo-net that this game is gonna be awesome!"
Grandchild 2: "Nuh-uh! It looks like crap!"
Grandchild 1: "STFU nub, its still in debug mode"
D's grandchild: "It sfehk kklue su tasos is gawd"
Grandchild 1 & 2: "What the $%#^ did he just say?!"
This was good, had a bit of a laugh
This "game" conforms to every rule associated with a failed MMO.
The lack of official media (except for canned and repetitive videos), the secrecy this close to launch and the endless string of broken promises (now including release dates with another delay coming I'll wager).
Sirs,
I present you with DarkFAIL; and I assure you it will.
It's not that I want it to, but given the circumstances, this game is either going to be indefinitely delayed, released in a half finished state (reads : Broken) or cancelled.
Flame me, call me a troll, whatever.
Time will tell.
S
Yes, DF will be delayed, yes Tasos made a statement he couldn`t deliver and yes you trolls are right in almost all claims. When they delay it it will be because they listen to their testers.
It`s no use to defend DF for what state it is right now, but we can defend what kind of game it can be if Aventurine get some more time to fix the most obvious flaws. I just wish the devs could be more open on whats going on right now, because all info we get is from youtube, betaleak forums and friends.
I know some in here really want the game to come out the 25 feb. But if it does you better start hyping Earthrise or MO, because DF atm will fail. The game isn`t ready for a release yet. Give it a month or two and we`ll all be happy....I hope.
And yes, I will preorder two copies of DF when I get the chance.
Rofl... so dramatic. The game wont get canceled. Thats 100% fact. It will either be released digitaly first then with dvd packaging second, or it will be delayed and released at some other date in 2009.
Theres a lot that goes into setting up and developing a mmorpg. They have the mmorpg, but the rest still needs to be established... example: account page for billing, licensing rights, legal work, planning for the distribution, possible rating needed...ect Its not just the game, but the whole process that gets complicated, and even more so if you are a first timer into the industry.
When Tasos said the game is feature complete, I think he must have been meaning to say, Feature rich. We can all agree hes not the best person for their PR work, and is trying a bit too hard. That doesnt change the quality of the product however.
You can have 500 people finishing a job in 5 minutes, or you can have 5 people finishing the same job in 500 minutes. The point is, DF's team is small. Very small. Time is necessary factor, nothing more and its quite clear that it is close (not is, but close) to a releasable state via leaked vids.
And your whole reasoning behind bitching is that you can't have your PvE only character? This game obviously isn't for people like you then and you seem to be missing the entire point behind DF. If you want a PvE only game there is plenty of them out there so why even get on these forums and post? This game is trying to cater to a small niche of gamers that want to see specific things in a game. We finally got the game we have been looking for then people like you come and bitch about how you will be open to PvP at any time and can't have your PvE only flagged character.....
There is plenty of other games out there for ya bro because this one obviously isn't for you if your scared to get killed by other people. Stop bitching about features that many have been waiting for since UO came to an end.
Well mjones you just showed me why fanbois are lost , even in the videos that AV put out and in the interviews they say it is PvP/PvE we want all to feel part of this world.. looks like you need to see what is happening at church Darkfall ! that is why they offer a special program the puts out new content, this is from there site so look it up. and the have epic monster to hunt , i guess just to bother you PvPer and get in your way..
Plus fanbois say crafting has no meaning, cause armor and weapons will be chaep .. no need we are not here to armor grind, but in the interviews T himself says crafting is a big part of the market.. i think noone knows what is in this game or what it will be .. if anything
Trust me I'm no fanboy. I like the idea behind the game and the feature list it has but it pretty much stops there. I really dislike Aventurine and how they are treating their customers. DF looks ok to me and I'll most likely try it but in the end I will probably be playing Mortal Online once that comes out. It looks much better imo.
Rofl... so dramatic. The game wont get canceled. Thats 100% fact. It will either be released digitaly first then with dvd packaging second, or it will be delayed and released at some other date in 2009.
Theres a lot that goes into setting up and developing a mmorpg. They have the mmorpg, but the rest still needs to be established... example: account page for billing, licensing rights, legal work, planning for the distribution, possible rating needed...ect Its not just the game, but the whole process that gets complicated, and even more so if you are a first timer into the industry.
When Tasos said the game is feature complete, I think he must have been meaning to say, Feature rich. We can all agree hes not the best person for their PR work, and is trying a bit too hard. That doesnt change the quality of the product however.
You can have 500 people finishing a job in 5 minutes, or you can have 5 people finishing the same job in 500 minutes. The point is, DF's team is small. Very small. Time is necessary factor, nothing more and its quite clear that it is close (not is, but close) to a releasable state via leaked vids.
I never said it WOULD be cancelled, thats one of 3 possible outcomes I presented. There is absolutely no drama here and the fact that you still want to use Aventurine's size as an excuse for their ineptitude is laughable.
8 years and no game, I guess due to the size of the company, we should give them 10 or 12. That's not even remotely realistic.
3DREALMS are the laughing stock of the gaming community because of DN3F, but in that case, because of 3DREALM's previous work, I have some modicum of hope that it will be a good game, or at least passable.
Aventurine has no previous work to back up all these delays, excuses and promises and if you base your postulations on the shenanigans assosciated with other MMOs, this game is done for. It really will have to be some kind of miracle in order to live up to the hype, which I simply refuse to believe that it is.
Regards,
S
Rofl... so dramatic. The game wont get canceled. Thats 100% fact. It will either be released digitaly first then with dvd packaging second, or it will be delayed and released at some other date in 2009.
Theres a lot that goes into setting up and developing a mmorpg. They have the mmorpg, but the rest still needs to be established... example: account page for billing, licensing rights, legal work, planning for the distribution, possible rating needed...ect Its not just the game, but the whole process that gets complicated, and even more so if you are a first timer into the industry.
When Tasos said the game is feature complete, I think he must have been meaning to say, Feature rich. We can all agree hes not the best person for their PR work, and is trying a bit too hard. That doesnt change the quality of the product however.
You can have 500 people finishing a job in 5 minutes, or you can have 5 people finishing the same job in 500 minutes. The point is, DF's team is small. Very small. Time is necessary factor, nothing more and its quite clear that it is close (not is, but close) to a releasable state via leaked vids.
This is part of the problem , when darkfall started this game with this graphics it was good , even great .. but now its like sending people frozen to another system, it will take them 500 years to get there, when they final arrive we have already made starships and got there 450 years ago and built city, but hey their ship was state of the art for its time.. they tried to much and had not the people or the money. now they are removing content and playing it off as bad or not needed..
Well you can't really stop the flame wars, unless you stop posting alltogether - which kinda defies the whole point of why we come here.
I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
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Rofl... so dramatic. The game wont get canceled. Thats 100% fact. It will either be released digitaly first then with dvd packaging second, or it will be delayed and released at some other date in 2009.
Theres a lot that goes into setting up and developing a mmorpg. They have the mmorpg, but the rest still needs to be established... example: account page for billing, licensing rights, legal work, planning for the distribution, possible rating needed...ect Its not just the game, but the whole process that gets complicated, and even more so if you are a first timer into the industry.
When Tasos said the game is feature complete, I think he must have been meaning to say, Feature rich. We can all agree hes not the best person for their PR work, and is trying a bit too hard. That doesnt change the quality of the product however.
You can have 500 people finishing a job in 5 minutes, or you can have 5 people finishing the same job in 500 minutes. The point is, DF's team is small. Very small. Time is necessary factor, nothing more and its quite clear that it is close (not is, but close) to a releasable state via leaked vids.
I never said it WOULD be cancelled, thats one of 3 possible outcomes I presented. There is absolutely no drama here and the fact that you still want to use Aventurine's size as an excuse for their ineptitude is laughable.
8 years and no game, I guess due to the size of the company, we should give them 10 or 12. That's not even remotely realistic.
3DREALMS are the laughing stock of the gaming community because of DN3F, but in that case, because of 3DREALM's previous work, I have some modicum of hope that it will be a good game, or at least passable.
Aventurine has no previous work to back up all these delays, excuses and promises and if you base your postulations on the shenanigans assosciated with other MMOs, this game is done for. It really will have to be some kind of miracle in order to live up to the hype, which I simply refuse to believe that it is.
Regards,
S
The highlighted part: Here in lies the problem. YOU giving THEM? pft. Adventurine owes you NOTHING. Its their project, not yours. They will give YOU the game when its ready. Why do some of you feel entitled to everything? It is not realistic for the world to revolve around their wants.
Good companies dont give a crap what the whiney gamers want. They do their own thing with their own game, and if you like it, good, if not, then too bad. Who cares what Tasos says, I sure as hell dont. He doesnt owe you anything, and its quite obvious he's not cut out to be doing any PR work. Simple as that.
Stop over exaggerating you big baby. The graphics look good and are quite stylized. Even a year from now they will still be good. Like all large none zoned sand box mmorpgs, you have to keep polycount models to a minimal, or else its not playable. No game can escape this with our current level of technology (available to the mass market).
The devs tracker had a thread in which a dev explained that with the Beta, the settings have been locked to medium or lower. If DF were to come out today, or next year, its stylistic approach will still look good, and do the job it set out to do. Games are not just about graphics either.
500 years later? pfttlol This year or next. Thats it.
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Rofl... so dramatic. The game wont get canceled. Thats 100% fact. It will either be released digitaly first then with dvd packaging second, or it will be delayed and released at some other date in 2009.
Theres a lot that goes into setting up and developing a mmorpg. They have the mmorpg, but the rest still needs to be established... example: account page for billing, licensing rights, legal work, planning for the distribution, possible rating needed...ect Its not just the game, but the whole process that gets complicated, and even more so if you are a first timer into the industry.
When Tasos said the game is feature complete, I think he must have been meaning to say, Feature rich. We can all agree hes not the best person for their PR work, and is trying a bit too hard. That doesnt change the quality of the product however.
You can have 500 people finishing a job in 5 minutes, or you can have 5 people finishing the same job in 500 minutes. The point is, DF's team is small. Very small. Time is necessary factor, nothing more and its quite clear that it is close (not is, but close) to a releasable state via leaked vids.
I never said it WOULD be cancelled, thats one of 3 possible outcomes I presented. There is absolutely no drama here and the fact that you still want to use Aventurine's size as an excuse for their ineptitude is laughable.
8 years and no game, I guess due to the size of the company, we should give them 10 or 12. That's not even remotely realistic.
3DREALMS are the laughing stock of the gaming community because of DN3F, but in that case, because of 3DREALM's previous work, I have some modicum of hope that it will be a good game, or at least passable.
Aventurine has no previous work to back up all these delays, excuses and promises and if you base your postulations on the shenanigans assosciated with other MMOs, this game is done for. It really will have to be some kind of miracle in order to live up to the hype, which I simply refuse to believe that it is.
Regards,
S
The highlighted part: Here in lies the problem. YOU giving THEM? pft. Adventurine owes you NOTHING. Its their project, not yours. They will give YOU the game when its ready. Why do some of you feel entitled to everything? It is not realistic for the world to revolve around their wants.
Good companies dont give a crap what the whiney gamers want. They do their own thing with their own game, and if you like it, good, if not, then too bad. Who cares what Tasos says, I sure as hell dont. He doesnt owe you anything, and its quite obvious he's not cut out to be doing any PR work. Simple as that.
Yup, its their game, and at this rate, they'll be the only ones playing it. I suggest you avail yourself of the hard truths of business and the acumen associated with it.
Your apologist attitude has now extended to admitting that Tasos is inept while maintaining that Aventurine is going to release a game for "Non whiney" gamers such as yourself as opposed to "whiney" gamers (realists) who understand that all the bad omens add up to a failure and NOT a success.
A (THE) representative (the public face) of Aventurine makes them look completely unqualified for the task they have undertaken. I mean, thats no big deal right. /sarcasm off
Good luck with your reasoning. We'll find out soon enough who is right.
S
Rofl... so dramatic. The game wont get canceled. Thats 100% fact. It will either be released digitaly first then with dvd packaging second, or it will be delayed and released at some other date in 2009.
Theres a lot that goes into setting up and developing a mmorpg. They have the mmorpg, but the rest still needs to be established... example: account page for billing, licensing rights, legal work, planning for the distribution, possible rating needed...ect Its not just the game, but the whole process that gets complicated, and even more so if you are a first timer into the industry.
When Tasos said the game is feature complete, I think he must have been meaning to say, Feature rich. We can all agree hes not the best person for their PR work, and is trying a bit too hard. That doesnt change the quality of the product however.
You can have 500 people finishing a job in 5 minutes, or you can have 5 people finishing the same job in 500 minutes. The point is, DF's team is small. Very small. Time is necessary factor, nothing more and its quite clear that it is close (not is, but close) to a releasable state via leaked vids.
I never said it WOULD be cancelled, thats one of 3 possible outcomes I presented. There is absolutely no drama here and the fact that you still want to use Aventurine's size as an excuse for their ineptitude is laughable.
8 years and no game, I guess due to the size of the company, we should give them 10 or 12. That's not even remotely realistic.
3DREALMS are the laughing stock of the gaming community because of DN3F, but in that case, because of 3DREALM's previous work, I have some modicum of hope that it will be a good game, or at least passable.
Aventurine has no previous work to back up all these delays, excuses and promises and if you base your postulations on the shenanigans assosciated with other MMOs, this game is done for. It really will have to be some kind of miracle in order to live up to the hype, which I simply refuse to believe that it is.
Regards,
S
The highlighted part: Here in lies the problem. YOU giving THEM? pft. Adventurine owes you NOTHING. Its their project, not yours. They will give YOU the game when its ready. Why do some of you feel entitled to everything? It is not realistic for the world to revolve around their wants.
Good companies dont give a crap what the whiney gamers want. They do their own thing with their own game, and if you like it, good, if not, then too bad. Who cares what Tasos says, I sure as hell dont. He doesnt owe you anything, and its quite obvious he's not cut out to be doing any PR work. Simple as that.
Heh... it's Aventurine.
I agree with you about Tasos. The company should have dumped him years ago. I much prefer Claus doing all the talking. He is much more informative and a lot less abrasive.
Aventurine needs to do what Funcom did with Gaute (sp?).
The problem that DarkFall finds itself in is that if they do not Release soon (as in the next few months)... their "window" of opportunity will pass them by.
A couple years ago DarkFall was pretty much the only MMO that was promising to offer the world they claim to be building. That is not the case today. There are getting to be a fair number of other MMOs claiming Feature sets very similar to DarkFall's.
Most of those other MMOs won't be ready for about another year or so. Give or take a few months. That gives DarkFall a few months yet to get things finished and then Release. It needs to be done right... otherwise the subs will dry up quick as soon as the next MMO releases.
DarkFall will need to Release this year... or not at all.
Anyone who preorders Darkfall is helping to prove that distribution of money in the developed world is directly correlated to intelligence.
Because anyone who spends one dollar on Darkfall before anyone gets to play it deserves to lose that dollar.
I've gotten inside the beta and played Darkfall, and I will deffinately be pre-ordering it.
Yeah, most of us can afford it. How's it over in the 3rd world?
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Yeah, most of us can afford it. How's it over in the 3rd world?
He and his family are one preorder away from eating clay dirt pies.
DarkFall will propably get delayed again for a year..so please stay away for the next months from the game
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yeah all is not good in darkfall land, not to have any info with a few weeks til the next try at rerelease is no good
Hypothetical situation... The game doesn't have most of the features that are listed and the gameplay/UI needs reworking would you still want the game to be released? I hope the game is delayed till Summer or later because first impressions will kill a game if they aren't good. See WoW as being good and AOC bad.
Doesn't matter. They'll release it now because it's quite obvious they can release absolute crap, their devoted cult will buy it, and then they can string at least half of them along for a years worth of subscription while they "promise to fix it" and delay each patch over and over again. I'd say they could probably get two to three years of revenue from these suckers before the last of them bailed out. Hell, if development is any indication and they play their cards right, maybe even eight years.
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Reading of Sanedor's Will:
"To my Children I leave my pre order for Darkfall and my PC with Keyboard and Mouse..."
Reading of Sanedor's childrens Will:
"To our children we leave Grampa's Darkfall pre order..."
Grandchild 1: "Sweet! I read on the holo-net that this game is gonna be awesome!"
Grandchild 2: "Nuh-uh! It looks like crap!"
Grandchild 1: "STFU nub, its still in debug mode"
D's grandchild: "It sfehk kklue su tasos is gawd"
Grandchild 1 & 2: "What the $%#^ did he just say?!"
I lol'd irl :P
They dont make a profit off of pre-orders. All pre-orders can be canceled. Its used mainly for more efficient distribution and general idea on size of initial subs.
All depends on how you do pre-orders doesn't it Aventurine shill/employ?
Since you can't walk into Gamestop and plunk down $5 for the pre-order then cancel I would bet you will have to give them CC info and pay for the whole amount upfront.
Good luck getting any money back on that scam, ask the DnL pre-order people what they got back unless they fought with Farcelan and their CC companies.
That is why pre-orders on a DDL only distribution reeks of scam. If I have a box in hand from a reputable retailer then I have leverage, on the internet you have nothing.
Good luck with your pre-orders ROFLMAO
Yeah, most of us can afford it. How's it over in the 3rd world?
He and his family are one preorder away from eating clay dirt pies.
A fool and his money are soon parted.