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Which gives rise to the belief that mounts simply pop out of holes in the ground!

RooseveltRoosevelt Member Posts: 341

...which is completely ridiculous. Or is it!?

Mounts are in the game, except for the Mahirim. You create a mount by purchasing the Taming skill, a whistle, and you have to get a grass component (can't remember the exact name off hand). You then create the mount like any other crafting skill.

You get a statue that can summon the mount. If you die, someone can take the mount, if the game crashes while you are on the mount it's gone. That happened to me twice, so I stopped trying. It's expensive to make one.

I do not know if there is full truth in this statement but this is a very far fetched way of getting a mount if you ask me. I think this is a real issue people need to be looking at with Darkfall instead of broken promises. Since there is no continuity anyone can tell me to why Mounts are simply "Crafted".

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  • Darkstar111Darkstar111 Member Posts: 675

     U mean like a lore explenation why mounts will pop up from ur backpack ?

     

    U create a magical figurine that summons a mount, to create that figurine u need a magical component, arbitrary magical component happens to be grass, special grass, but grass notheless.

     

    What arbitrary source of reagent would u have prefered ?

     

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  • RooseveltRoosevelt Member Posts: 341
    Originally posted by zymurgeist

    Originally posted by Roosevelt


    ...which is completely ridiculous. Or is it!?
    Mounts are in the game, except for the Mahirim. You create a mount by purchasing the Taming skill, a whistle, and you have to get a grass component (can't remember the exact name off hand). You then create the mount like any other crafting skill.

    You get a statue that can summon the mount. If you die, someone can take the mount, if the game crashes while you are on the mount it's gone. That happened to me twice, so I stopped trying. It's expensive to make one.

    I do not know if there is full truth in this statement but this is a very far fetched way of getting a mount if you ask me. I think this is a real issue people need to be looking at with Darkfall instead of broken promises. Since there is no continuity anyone can tell me to why Mounts are simply "Crafted".



     

    And summoning demons isn't a far fetched fantasy standard? You're reaching mate and it's eluding your grasp.

     

    Summoning and Forging an animal are two completely different things. I have no problem with anything being summoned in a fantasy game, because it is a spell, and there can be a reason that is still canon to the lore. On the other hand "Forging" an animal is a bit too far fetched for me. There is a certain point where a game goes from creative to absurd and that is it for me.

     

    Lets look at the background of each shall we. You summon a demon how? Maybe from another plane of exsistance, and bringing him forth to our world. Easy explanation and it works.

    You forge a horse using expensive items? Lets just assume for a second that nothing in the world lore of the game can concieve and give birth and everything and everyone is just simply made. No wait lets not assume that because it makes no sense! Do you see what I am getting at, you have to pull the whole of the lore up over your head just to try and get a sense of it.

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  • Death1942Death1942 Member UncommonPosts: 2,587

    clearly you have never read any of the books with Drizzit (the drow ranger).  His beloved panther lived on another plane and was summonded using a small statue.

     

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  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441
    Originally posted by Darkstar111


     U mean like a lore explenation why mounts will pop up from ur backpack ?
    U create a magical figurine that summons a mount, to create that figurine u need a magical component, arbitrary magical component happens to be grass, special grass, but grass notheless.
    What arbitrary source of reagent would u have prefered ?
    -Darkstar

     

    In EQ2 you have a whistle. You use it and the mount comes running, feel a bit more logical than a magical minature horse that you craft yourself...

    To have it totaly realistic you would of course have to leave it in a stable and that is kinda a bother but I like EQ2s solution.

  • AshrikAshrik Member Posts: 381

    My mount would be made out of steel and good ol' American grit.

  • Darkstar111Darkstar111 Member Posts: 675
    Originally posted by Loke666

    Originally posted by Darkstar111


     U mean like a lore explenation why mounts will pop up from ur backpack ?
    U create a magical figurine that summons a mount, to create that figurine u need a magical component, arbitrary magical component happens to be grass, special grass, but grass notheless.
    What arbitrary source of reagent would u have prefered ?
    -Darkstar

     

    In EQ2 you have a whistle. You use it and the mount comes running, feel a bit more logical than a magical minature horse that you craft yourself...

    To have it totaly realistic you would of course have to leave it in a stable and that is kinda a bother but I like EQ2s solution.

    AOC had that too, a horse comes running behind u, funny thing was if u stood with ur back to a slope the horse would either come riding out of thin air, or running thru the wall behind u.

     

    Personally i prefer the figurine summoning, it implies the Guenwyvar solution suggested by Death1942, a magical figurine, summons a magical mount from a magical place.

    Incidently this is what wow has.

     

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  • xiirotxiirot Fallen Earth CorrespondentMember Posts: 328
    Originally posted by Death1942


    clearly you have never read any of the books with Drizzit (the drow ranger).  His beloved panther lived on another plane and was summonded using a small statue.
     

     

    Death1942 is correct about the reference to Drizzt and his panther.  However, the correct spelling is Drizzt

    I apologize for the critique.

    Sorry, that was somewhat off topic.

    In the Darkfall setting (a fantasy world, mind you) why is it impossible to imagine summoning a pet from another plane using a crafted magical item.

    The only thing is such an item should require a deep understanding of magic.  So in order to craft this item, does one need a magical skill leveled up?  Or is there some type of magical-item crafting skill?  If not, and anyone can craft these items which summon mounts, then it's possible that there is an issue with the mechanics.

    My assumption: Considering this is a skill-based game, there must be a skill which has to be leveled up (to a relatively high level) that is needed in order to craft the item.  The question is what skill is required for crafting this item?

    edit:

    Just reread the OP and saw that you must purchase the Taming Skill. I missed that the first time I read it.

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  • StormakovStormakov Member UncommonPosts: 200
    Originally posted by Vinterkrig


    really now, does this even matter?

     

    OF COURSE IT MATTERS, I CANNOT PLA Y A GAME IF MOUNTS ARE SIMPLY "CRAFTED". I NEED TO PURCHASE MY MOUNTS, THE REALISM MUST BE KEPT!

  • DrSpankyDrSpanky Member Posts: 341

     seems a little odd "crafting" a mount to me, but after reading  all the other posts and looking back on other mmo's I guess it isn't all that strange. Different, yes.

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  • Darkstar111Darkstar111 Member Posts: 675
    Originally posted by UserNoName

    Originally posted by Vinterkrig


    really now, does this even matter?

     

    OF COURSE IT MATTERS, I CANNOT PLA Y A GAME IF MOUNTS ARE SIMPLY "CRAFTED". I NEED TO PURCHASE MY MOUNTS, THE REALISM MUST BE KEPT!

    There will be no crafting of animals, noone is saying that.

     

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  • RooseveltRoosevelt Member Posts: 341

    I just got talking with someone on a certain forum which shall remained nameless and the system works like this according to my new source. Gather regents for crafting totem, craft totem, then as long as you have the totem than you always have a mount. So it is not exactly as how the person who posted this described, if you log out and leave the mount you just simply resummon it using the whistle and a regent of grass.

     

    So basically you are using up the grass as a continual regent and the whistle is the actual way to summon the mount. Meaning the totem is simply there to serve as the holding place for your mount, not the actual means of summoning. If this is how it will be in game, it makes much more sense that how the original beta leaker had put it.

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  • StormakovStormakov Member UncommonPosts: 200
    Originally posted by Darkstar111

    Originally posted by UserNoName

    Originally posted by Vinterkrig


    really now, does this even matter?

     

    OF COURSE IT MATTERS, I CANNOT PLA Y A GAME IF MOUNTS ARE SIMPLY "CRAFTED". I NEED TO PURCHASE MY MOUNTS, THE REALISM MUST BE KEPT!

    There will be no crafting of animals, noone is saying that.

     

    -Darkstar

     



    Aside from the fact that I was being completely sarcastic, I said mounts, not animals. A mount could be anything from a gnome strapped with a saddle to a box on wheels.

  • DrSpankyDrSpanky Member Posts: 341
    Originally posted by UserNoName 


    Aside from the fact that I was being completely sarcastic, I said mounts, not animals. A mount could be anything from a gnome strapped with a saddle to a box on wheels.

    dude! does the gnome mount come with the pre-order? If so...I'm so gonna get it! 

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  • HotjazzHotjazz Member UncommonPosts: 742

     

    Hehe complaining about realisme in a fantasy game is never a good idea.

    I got a horsefigurine when I played UO years ago, so it`s nothing new in a mmo. The etheral horse in UO was a reward for people that had played 3 or 4 years. You couldn`t loot or kill the etheral horse.

     

    The Steedgrass or whatever it`s called, is something you can get if you are a lucky herbalist in DF. I would guess a mount is easy to get anyway if you have played DF a while, as it only cost 500 gp. But the horse is even easier to loose. You can loot the horsefigurine in DF. You can also take the mount from a fallen player, steal the mount if a player leaves it unattended, kill the mount, ride all races mount and the mount has two attacks like forward and backwards kick.

     

  • egotripegotrip Member Posts: 875
    Originally posted by Ashrik


    My mount would be made out of steel and good ol' American grit.

    Did you have something like this in mind??

     

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  • stayontargetstayontarget Member RarePosts: 6,519

    A better option would be to just buy the mount from an NPC (remove it from the crafting system all together). If you die the mount stays there for anyone to use unless it is attacked and killed.

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  • ZodanZodan Member Posts: 564

    Yet another wonderful design decision by AV, I am amazed how they manage to do these... My guess is that they have a Magic-8-Ball to see if their design is solid.

    DF is the game I want to succeed but it's gonna be like snowball in hell.

  • joshwajoshwa Member Posts: 118


    Originally posted by Zodan
    Yet another wonderful design decision by AV, I am amazed how they manage to do these... My guess is that they have a Magic-8-Ball to see if their design is solid. image
    DF is the game I want to succeed but it's gonna be like snowball in hell.

    The whole losing your mount thing when the server crashes just sounds like having more fun than a human should be allowed. What a brilliant idea.

  • ZodanZodan Member Posts: 564
    Originally posted by joshwa


     

    Originally posted by Zodan

    Yet another wonderful design decision by AV, I am amazed how they manage to do these... My guess is that they have a Magic-8-Ball to see if their design is solid.

    DF is the game I want to succeed but it's gonna be like snowball in hell.

     

    The whole losing your mount thing when the server crashes just sounds like having more fun than a human should be allowed. What a brilliant idea.

     

    I lol'd

    Sad to see how they make things that could be fun into something that's designed for wonderful hamster power sources.

  • yamrenyamren Member Posts: 27
    Originally posted by joshwa


     

    Originally posted by Zodan

    Yet another wonderful design decision by AV, I am amazed how they manage to do these... My guess is that they have a Magic-8-Ball to see if their design is solid.

    DF is the game I want to succeed but it's gonna be like snowball in hell.

     

    The whole losing your mount thing when the server crashes just sounds like having more fun than a human should be allowed. What a brilliant idea.

     



     

    It's a sandbox game, you are not allowed to have fun.

    Only carebear theme park games are allowed to be fun and have 11.5 million subs vs a few thousand for FFAPVP games which are so much more hardcore ROFLMAO.

    EDIT: Just noticed that someone above said that this is how WoW works (you use a statue to summon your mount)? Which WoW are you playing? Never seen any statues in the game for the summoning of mounts must have missed one somewhere along the way.

  • heartlessheartless Member UncommonPosts: 4,993

    Makes no sense to me. Where is the sandbox?

    Would be so much better if people could tame horses and sell them. Then if a player dies, the horse hangs around the area until it's either killed by something (player or mob) or the player logs off. If a player doesn't get back to the horse fast enough, the horse becomes wild and will have to be re-tamed.

    That's how UO did it. It's more realistic and better, in my opinion than summoning a magical horse from a statue.

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  • daarcodaarco Member UncommonPosts: 4,276

    I remember from a Warcry update a few years ago, when Aventurine spoke about this. They wanted players to be able to "breed" horses. To make a living of it as a merchant.

    So they made it work under crafting. Players just have to pretend its breed and raised in a big barn or smething. And thats sounds better then to have to buy one for 40k gold!!"!

  • RaizeenRaizeen Member Posts: 622

    why have mobs spawn suddenly then? why not have them give birth to new mobs so we have to wait a few hours for them to grow up so it would be realstic? oh no wait its a game ye thats it lol duh im a retard lawl

  • pprllopprllo Member Posts: 99
    Most stupid thread ever paired with most stupid answers ever.



    FFS, they give you a fucking STEED GRASS and a fucking WHISTLE, the clearly "intended idea" is that you lure the fucking horse with the fucking grass and then tame it in some way.



    The only thing they should change is that you should be able to call the horse using the whistle and not clicking on some figurine.



    Dammit I'm a basher but this shit really drives me mad.
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