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how bad could it be?
clearSam
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i refrained from playing this game for like 8 months because people were saying that the game was basically a bug itsellf and that it was almost unplayable because of defects, but finally i just wanted to give it a month try...
i installed it a week ago and guess what? one of my chars is lvl20 now and i didnt see any "bugs" so far, no lag and no glitches ! i only saw extreemly nice graphics for an MMO.
yes thats true, i didnt do much of PvP nor crafting, so i cant judge yet, but now i see people complaining about how the PvP system sucks etc...
so is it true this time?
and honestly, in both cases its gotta be a great game. why?
1-if it was a really buggy game first and in JUST a couple of months, FunCom have fixed it into a smooth running game, then thats only good news for players.
2-if they were just lies and flamings from other mmo fanboys with computer that can only handle a 2004 game, well... those were just lies... and we dont really care about them
so im just woundring, how bad could it be after lvl 20 or 30 ?
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The issue "WAS" content. This is not the case anymore. So much to do between levels now. High end raid or Guild vs Guild with PvP mini games or full FFA content...you name it.
The bugs were an issue, and are gone. Content was an issue, but not anymore...
This leaves some other things like Gear variance, better Crafting and DX10...but these will be along shortly..
Cheers
so why some people are still complaining and crying like babies? and its all over the internet.
isnt this what all MMOs do? they add stuff on every patch? and they keep modifying and tweeking the PVP system as needed?
isnt it a very positive thing that funCom fixed a so called "very buggy game" in just a couple of months?
and honestly, ill be ashamed to ask for DX10 content with volumic fog while im still runing a 2004 game that barely have any fog.
It did take a lot longer than two months, and I think that is the issue for most.
I realize that it was the old game director though who ruined the game at launch. His name was Gaute Godager.
I suggest looking at AoC on wiki to see how events transpired. There is so much story of love/hate and issues with the old director, and a previous game from Funcom which all added to this hate war raging on these forums by select people.
All I can say is the game has finally made progress, and is great fun, and that is what matters to me. I plan to touch no other MMO until Aion or Guild Wars 2 now.
Cheers
I wouldn't call it bad by any means, with some exceptions regarding some decisions they made for the basic mechanics of the game. My most common example is the climbing skill and how they use it. Well... the skills in general really need some looking over. I could personally outsprint my HoX any day of the week and I have his endurance and running speed nearly maxxed. He's all about fire, so maybe he's a chain smoker?
The question for me is... is the content that's there worth paying a subscription for? My current answer is, "not for long". The quality I saw in Tortage has thus far not continued to the rest of the game.
But I'm hoping that might change, or that I will bump into something in the game that really appeals to me. As I've said before, most of the big MMO's out today don't really have much appeal to me. Or at least, not for very long. If Conan doesn't cut it, I may be waiting another year for the next big thing.
I wouldn't call it bad by any means, with some exceptions regarding some decisions they made for the basic mechanics of the game. My most common example is the climbing skill and how they use it. Well... the skills in general really need some looking over. I could personally outsprint my HoX any day of the week and I have his endurance and running speed nearly maxxed. He's all about fire, so maybe he's a chain smoker?
The question for me is... is the content that's there worth paying a subscription for? My current answer is, "not for long". The quality I saw in Tortage has thus far not continued to the rest of the game.
But I'm hoping that might change, or that I will bump into something in the game that really appeals to me. As I've said before, most of the big MMO's out today don't really have much appeal to me. Or at least, not for very long. If Conan doesn't cut it, I may be waiting another year for the next big thing.
I would say that sounds like burnout, and you should wait.
After I left Conan last year, I took a break...tried other games, and was never satisfied...then I came back to AoC, and was very pleased...then Tabula Rasa announced it was ending...I took off for that game, and it made me quit MMO's for almost 2 months.
I came back to AoC almost 2 months ago, and plan to stay now...great stuff here, and it has spoiled me for other MMO's (they all seem so bland...hehe)
Cheers
Well. the content get's thin after lvl 70 but until then it is a blast. Hopefully OT common will launch soon.
They done a great job with the bugg fixing but the game needs an expansion to reach it's potential, right now the replay value is limited since you alts have to redo the same quests a lot.
But it is really fun to run through the content for the first time, just wait until youre 35 and can start doing Sanctum
I was waiting for darkfall beta,So i thought i would try Aoc again.Started my account back up ,2 weeks ago.Played it for about 10 min .Then i remembered why i stop playing it. Havent played since.wasted $15
You'll see. There is a content proble. Also many of FC's promises of game content prior to, at, and post launch still have yet to be kept.
Let me know how you feel when you make the push from 40 to 80. Let me know when you're sick of running tortage after 4+ times. Let me know when you've done all the content from 20 to 40 by the time you finish leveling your second char.
Ok because first impressions mean everything and once you got that bitter taste at launch people are not going to risk their money again. Yes they fixed alot of stuff, Yes they added new content but its still all about the first impression factor and peoples willingness to spend their money.
You'll see. There is a content proble. Also many of FC's promises of game content prior to, at, and post launch still have yet to be kept.
Let me know how you feel when you make the push from 40 to 80. Let me know when you're sick of running tortage after 4+ times. Let me know when you've done all the content from 20 to 40 by the time you finish leveling your second char.
im just trying to understand here.
so now the issue is the lack of content right? but not bugs anymore?
Alot of people had high hopes for Conan. They drug dozens of guildmembers with them, and zipped their way up to the top expecting things that... well, apparently weren't as advertised or didn't work as expected. Or not at all.
Lucky for me, I risked like 6-8 bucks for the box and a free month, so should I quit, it's no big loss. Heck, I think Tortage was worth the 8 bucks.
Many spent 60+ bucks at launch to get a horribly bugged game. In their shoes, I could understand their anger.
And with all due respect, many of these people you refer to as "crying" about this game may have had alot more invested in this game than you do. Lots of folks take their gaming pretty seriously. Not only that, you've been playing, as you said, all of a couple weeks. After some time, you may not find your opinion very far from theirs.
well that makes sense.
so basically some launch players are taking revenge on Funcom because they feel that they got screwed earlier...
interesting, but does not mean that te game sucks now and today !
which is actuall good news... at least for me (a relatively new player)
Alot of people had high hopes for Conan. They drug dozens of guildmembers with them, and zipped their way up to the top expecting things that... well, apparently weren't as advertised or didn't work as expected. Or not at all.
Lucky for me, I risked like 6-8 bucks for the box and a free month, so should I quit, it's no big loss. Heck, I think Tortage was worth the 8 bucks.
Many spent 60+ bucks at launch to get a horribly bugged game. In their shoes, I could understand their anger.
And with all due respect, many of these people you refer to as "crying" about this game may have had alot more invested in this game than you do. Lots of folks take their gaming pretty seriously. Not only that, you've been playing, as you said, all of a couple weeks. After some time, you may not find your opinion very far from theirs.
dont get me wrong, im not trying to flame anyone here, im just tring to understand how legitimate are the complaints that i see NOW on forums.
yes, in theire shoes ill be very pissed-off too, especially if ive supported the game since launch. also i tottally agree that Funcom screwed up big time...
but now, the technical bugs are fixed, and according to many "vet" players more content is being added, but i still see some people argue that the game is still absolutely unplayable (same complaints as before bug fixes) !
so i just dont get it ! it seems like many have lost their subjectivity, and no matter what happend from Funcom's side, they will still claim that AoC is just a total unplayable mess.
Keep digging. The number is higher than two. They are pretty easy to spot.
Yes, its easy to spot all the new alt accounts, the trolls and haters make. And yes they are much higher then two.
They only trash talk and speak nonsens. Oh and some of them like to talk about out of date info. Very sad.
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Bear Grylls : I need to get out of this frozen hellhole!
Bear Grylls : (Holds a beetle in his hand) 4 times more protein then Beef
Lack of content is a particular issue if you Beta played the game, you then play and find there is not much more than you saw and that creates boredom. My advice is always to not beta test any MMO, you always enjoy them more that way anyway.
There are still content issues, but its gradually being fixed. I think they are good up to level 68 now? That stills leaves a lot of grinding till 80, but by the time you have reached 68 they may well have added a complete set of quests for 69 to 75.
You'll see. There is a content proble. Also many of FC's promises of game content prior to, at, and post launch still have yet to be kept.
Let me know how you feel when you make the push from 40 to 80. Let me know when you're sick of running tortage after 4+ times. Let me know when you've done all the content from 20 to 40 by the time you finish leveling your second char.
im just trying to understand here.
so now the issue is the lack of content right? but not bugs anymore?
The issue was mostly, bugs, bad perfromence, lack of content.
Bugs and perfomence is pretty much fixed.
Content has been added, the only gap now is between lvl 73+, (and thats not a very big gap), you have content and quests but most are dungeons quests.
They launched a new patch today with 1 new lvl 46 dungeon, 2 new lvl 80 dungeons ( 1 solo and 1 group dungeon), Wing 3 (raid dungeon), and pvp-resources <--- huge change for pvp.
So content is not a big problem anymore, sure more content is always nice.
Next patch will have itemization, proffesion revamps and more, and Tarantia Commons new high lvl zone. ( More high end content ).
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Bear Grylls : I need to get out of this frozen hellhole!
Bear Grylls : (Holds a beetle in his hand) 4 times more protein then Beef
The biggest problem with AoC is and always has been ENDGAME.
Some people wanted more low level content, some people wanted more stable client, but EVERYONE wanted something fun to do at level 80. Funcom hasn't given us it.
There has been many updates since launch but none of them have given us any good long-term endgame content. This is the reason why people always start new characters once they hit level 80.
You can confirm this by logging in and asking anyone. People on this forum seem to be overly positive about AoC and try to avoid hard topics like endgame.
So enjoy the ride while it lasts. Once you hit 80 it's all over.
The biggest problem with AoC is and always has been ENDGAME.
Some people wanted more low level content, some people wanted more stable client, but EVERYONE wanted something fun to do at level 80. Funcom hasn't given us it.
There has been many updates since launch but none of them have given us any good long-term endgame content. This is the reason why people always start new characters once they hit level 80.
You can confirm this by logging in and asking anyone. People on this forum seem to be overly positive about AoC and try to avoid hard topics like endgame.
So enjoy the ride while it lasts. Once you hit 80 it's all over.
Dude, please, patch notes today ? Emphasis on high level content? yes? no? YES! Empahsis on crafting changes, yes minor in this patch.
Urrm like raiding? new wing just opened up - BIG NEWS.
Don't worry, I know about your precious patch notes. I have read them.
I was talking about long-term endgame content. You know something you can do for more than a couple of hours?
Or do I have to keep repeating same raid over and over again for months?
Siege battle was supposed to be that awesome endgame content everyone was waiting for, but like everyone who has ever tried it knows.. it's not.
Don't worry, I know about your precious patch notes. I have read them.
I was talking about long-term endgame content. You know something you can do for more than a couple of hours?
RAID / Crafting?
Or do I have to keep repeating same raid over and over again for months?
You just got here unless you know those other nice fellas from your area? best thing you could do for your sanity is move on. Whats the point if you don't play the game? You don't want it to get better so ask yourself whats the point?
Siege battle was supposed to be that awesome endgame content everyone was waiting for, but like everyone who has ever tried it knows.. it's not.
Again please stop lying. You can find sieges nearly every day on nearly all servers.
And I know all about your agenda here.
What is precious for you is to spread lies, and be a mis-information agent.
Guess what it is not working, you failed along will all the other alias'.
Here are some current events on Aquilonia:
[RP Event] The Battle Circle: 22nd February 2009
Tortage Eve - now bigger and better!: 20th February 2009 ( 1 2)
Aquilonia server PvP tournament (cts) ( 1 2 3 ... Last Page)
Pvp tournament ending celebrations: 22nd February 2009 18:00 - 19:30
[Weekly RP EVENT] The Riders Tavern
You picked an RP server and your not into it?
Welcome to the Aquilonia Siege Battle Thread!
City Name - Guildname
Aquilonian End
Sturmgarde – Nova Krepusko
Oakenhome – Band of the Gray Clover
Burnheim - Condemned
Cimmerian End
Caelnach– Anatolian Hun Empire
Fort Bane – Celestial
Stonehammer - Exalted
Kush
Amut'Anun – Dracones Nigri
Gardak- Sanguis Attexo
Date - Attacker vs. Castle (Defending guild) - Status (Winner, Failed)
25.01.2009- Exalted vs Celestial (Fort Bane) - Failed
29.01.2009- Celestial vs Nova Krepusko (Sturmgarde) - Failed
07.02.2009- Sanguis Attexo vs Tasyfa (Gardak) - Winner
10.02.2009- Tasyfa vs Sanguis Attexo (Gardak) - Failed
13.02.2009- Celestial vs Nova Krepusko (Sturmgarde) - Failed
17.02.2009- Condemned vs Argonauts (Burnheim) - Winner
I'll ask you a simple question, why do you never bring any proof?
Plenty of ongoings on your server. Are you in a guild? it's a GVG game after all...
Well lets not forget all the new bugs that have been introduced--the AoC boards are lite up like a christmas tree right now.
forums.ageofconan.com/showthread.php
...and it hasn't been even 5 hours yet. This is typical of FC high level of quality patches.
I found the same ,no bugs a good looking game,however i was not on a PVP server for the simple reason PVP ALWAYS sucks in a MMORPG game.PVP mechanics will always fail in a RPG and will always distract from the true meaning of a RPG.PVP is a one dimensional type of gameplay,witch is it plays out much better under a FPS environment,because you do nothing other than PVP.This also allows a skillful setup for PVP,because it is not about gear/time played but more so about thinking and skill,and everyone has the same weapons ,something that is the opposite of a MMORPG.
Two totally opposite types of gameplay will never work together,it is like having boxing in Baseball or no contact in football,it will NEVER work.
Ok aside from PVP,i played some PVE in AOC and it was decent enough,pretty much what you would expect with a few twists,to keep your interest.The ONLY flaw i found was two things,poor drops ,i never felt like gear mattered ever and the linear beginning,with all races taking on the exact same storyline,they should have made a seperate storyline for each race for at least the starting isle.The gear drops were a bigger factor,as you will see things like .05 stats lmao,extremely wierd thinking there on that type of stat design,i think if i remember right stuff like .01 or .02,made me think why bother at all if you are going to add such a meaningless stat lol.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
And yes, they are doing a hotfix to fix the issues. ( This evening )
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Bear Grylls : I need to get out of this frozen hellhole!
Bear Grylls : (Holds a beetle in his hand) 4 times more protein then Beef
Today, 20:16 #1
Silirrion
Game Director
A quick hotfix this evening
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There have been a couple of issues we have monitored since the update went live today that we assessed through the evening and have decided are worth resolving immediately.
Firstly there was an issue that was causing a 'higher than we would like' number of server deadlocks. The issue has been found and resolved and we felt it was worth deploying a hotfix for.
In addition that allowed us to address a new issue with guard behavior that cropped up today, the coders and designers have been hard at work all evening here to resolve it.
So with the combination of these two issues we felt a hotfix was worth the additional downtime to nip the issues in the bud and ensure the weekend was not potentially disrupted by these issues.
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Craig 'Silirrion' Morrison
Game Director
http://forums-eu.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=111115
Talk about how on the ball FC are and how fast they are in responding to these small errrors. Time and time again they get them fixed faster than most. I mean look how long they have had a test server compared to other companies + official forums for decent feedback.
I don't think it effected you personally right as you don't play??
What is interesting is what this one guy said when talking about bugs:
"these arent new, its been bugged in test live, but they didnt fix it"
So they pushed it to live knowing it was bugged? And he continues:
"remember, ist funcom, you cant ask too much quality from them"
Can't really disagree there