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nileqnileq Member Posts: 476



You have reached the final destination, trolls.

Your last stand includes the frase "11.77 eur A MONTH! This should be F2P!!" there really isn't much to add to that ;-) apart from the fact that we most likely won't be seeing you ingame since you obviously can't afford it.

To all the trolls out there, option one in my sig won.

Thank you and goodbye.

Im off to play the beta until the 25th!

 

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  • SpoonpottSpoonpott Member Posts: 180

    I'll be the first to admit, in front of the whole DF community, that the NDA lift and the many leaks that followed have caused my opinions to chang... stay exactly the same.

    Spoonpott.

    The rules of Debate are really simple; once you have to stoop to insults instead of facts, logic, or reason to try and win your argument, you've lost.

  • nileqnileq Member Posts: 476

    well that is entirely your prerogative! 

    This game is not for everyone, but that has never been the issue here att mmorpg.com

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  • miagisanmiagisan Member Posts: 5,156
    Originally posted by nileq


    well that is entirely your prerogative! 
    This game is not for everyone, but that has never been the issue here att mmorpg.com

     

    and your post is nothing but troll bait. good job! the game is still not even close to being ready for release yet. and i still stand by that opinion after having played it.

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  • Darkstar111Darkstar111 Member Posts: 675

     Adjective

    vindicated

    justified, avenged or cleared of blame

     

    I just love how the trolls where screaming about the NDA not 30 minutes before it dropped.

    As if it matters, now we know most ppl love the game, even those that are critical say the game is good in essence.

     

    -Darkstar

     

     

  • heartlessheartless Member UncommonPosts: 4,993

    I can understand that people are excited because of the NDA drop and there is an influx of information, most of which we knew from other sources anyway. However, eventhough some may consider this NDA drop as a victory, the state of the game has not changed. It is still very much unfinished and needs lots of work.

    However, if you are happy with playing a subpar game, who am I to tell you otherwise? We all have our own tastes and needs.

    My beef is not really with Darkfall, as I've been a fan of open-ended MMOs for a long time, it is with the company making it. Aventurine took such a great concept and implemented it half-assed.

    Besides that, I am weary of giving them my credit card information. Not because I think that it's a scam but because I'm not sure if they are secure enough to prevent identity theft.

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  • DarkPonyDarkPony Member Posts: 5,566

    Nileq, NDA being lifted and the 'release' being imminent does not mean a guaranteed "The game will be good, and we will have a great game to play for years".

    We still have to see how the long term game play and endgame will be. Let's wait with handing out final verdicts for about three months or so.

  • heartlessheartless Member UncommonPosts: 4,993
    Originally posted by Darkstar111


     Adjective

    vindicated

    justified, avenged or cleared of blame

     
    I just love how the trolls where screaming about the NDA not 30 minutes before it dropped.
    As if it matters, now we know most ppl love the game, even those that are critical say the game is good in essence.
     
    -Darkstar
     
     

     

    30 minutes or not, system requirements, pricing and availability should have been known months ago. While the NDA thing is iffy and some games even launched with it intact, they did cut it a little close to release in my opinion.

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  • jimmyman99jimmyman99 Member UncommonPosts: 3,221
    Originally posted by nileq




    You have reached the final destination, trolls.

    Your last stand includes the frase "11.77 eur A MONTH! This should be F2P!!" there really isn't much to add to that ;-) apart from the fact that we most likely won't be seeing you ingame since you obviously can't afford it.

    To all the trolls out there, option one in my sig won.
    Thank you and goodbye.
    Im off to play the beta until the 25th!

     

     

    While it looks like DF is gonna be released, its still too early to claim victory. Vaporware trolls should be shushed (although some of them would still claim DF to be vapor, I guess they have a twisted definition of the term), we should exercise caution and wait for a few months after the release.

    I must admit things are looking on the bright side, even though it looks like the game is not completely ready, it is fairly stable and definitely not vapor. Aventurine has redeemed itself a little bit in my eyes, but I am still very much sceptical - I can't just dismiss previous company history and their dealings. My hopes are up for DF, I hope to see DF released soon.

    I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
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  • nileqnileq Member Posts: 476
    Originally posted by heartless


    I can understand that people are excited because of the NDA drop and there is an influx of information, most of which we knew from other sources anyway. However, eventhough some may consider this NDA drop as a victory, the state of the game has not changed. It is still very much unfinished and needs lots of work.
    However, if you are happy with playing a subpar game, who am I to tell you otherwise? We all have our own tastes and needs.
    My beef is not really with Darkfall, as I've been a fan of open-ended MMOs for a long time, it is with the company making it. Aventurine took such a great concept and implemented it half-assed.
    Besides that, I am weary of giving them my credit card information. Not because I think that it's a scam but because I'm not sure if they are secure enough to prevent identity theft.



     

    I am not exited about the NDA drop!

    I am actually playing the game, and have been for quite a while. I am only saying what I have wanted (but been unable) to say. Because I have first hand knowledge of the game.

    My forumfall nick is gloomis and it has the tag "beta tester" under it, what is yours?

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  • jimmyman99jimmyman99 Member UncommonPosts: 3,221
    Originally posted by Darkstar111


     Adjective

    vindicated

    justified, avenged or cleared of blame

     
    I just love how the trolls where screaming about the NDA not 30 minutes before it dropped.
    As if it matters, now we know most ppl love the game, even those that are critical say the game is good in essence.
     
    -Darkstar

    Why are you gloating at the fact that it took this long for aventurine to lift NDA? Not like they promised to lift NDA just yesterday. In fact, you, as a fan, should be embarassed that it took this long to lift NDA. I know i am.

    I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
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  • Darkstar111Darkstar111 Member Posts: 675
    Originally posted by heartless

    Originally posted by Darkstar111


     Adjective

    vindicated

    justified, avenged or cleared of blame

     
    I just love how the trolls where screaming about the NDA not 30 minutes before it dropped.
    As if it matters, now we know most ppl love the game, even those that are critical say the game is good in essence.
     
    -Darkstar
     
     

     

    30 minutes or not, system requirements, pricing and availability should have been known months ago. While the NDA thing is iffy and some games even launched with it intact, they did cut it a little close to release in my opinion.

     

    As I said, as if it matters. Its not like we didn't have hundreds of leaks telling us the same thing we now know.  With the NDA down ppl can no longer claim the leaks where lies.

     

    Not to be to agressive, but ive never seen a game that releases system specs months before release, simply because of the proccess they have to go throu to arrive at a minimum recomended.

    NDA yeah, but they chose not to, its different, u might not like it, but its their company, at the end of the day the only thing that really matters is if the game is good.

     

    After all the NDA dropping by itself means nothing, but what it showed us is what its all about.

    Like Truly High def  videos showing the actual graphics of the game are nowhere NEAR as bad as some people would have us believe.

     

     

    -Darkstar

     

     

     

  • RespitRespit Member Posts: 770

    Final Destination.

    Hmmm, isn't that abook or something?

     

    Oh, this is for you OP. 

     

     

    Edit: Final Destination is movie, seems there books based on the movie. I was close.

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  • nileqnileq Member Posts: 476
    Originally posted by DarkPony


    Nileq, NDA being lifted and the 'release' being imminent does not mean a guaranteed "The game will be good, and we will have a great game to play for years".
    We still have to see how the long term game play and endgame will be. Let's wait with handing out final verdicts for about three months or so.

    I am not exited about the NDA drop! Since I am already playing; You are right about the end-game content, it has not been tested fully to my knowledge, I personally think Aventurine have pulled of a heck of a job, and I was have been impressed with the patches, so I am confident that they will pull off end-game content too.

    The trolls have been spewing shit like there where no tomorrow, about graphics, about small company not being able to make an mmo, about it all being a scam, the second DnL.

    The list goes on.,.

     

     

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  • miagisanmiagisan Member Posts: 5,156
    Originally posted by nileq

    Originally posted by DarkPony


    Nileq, NDA being lifted and the 'release' being imminent does not mean a guaranteed "The game will be good, and we will have a great game to play for years".
    We still have to see how the long term game play and endgame will be. Let's wait with handing out final verdicts for about three months or so.

    I am not exited about the NDA drop! Since I am already playing; You are right about the end-game content, it has not been tested fully to my knowledge, I personally think Aventurine have pulled of a heck of a job, and I was have been impressed with the patches, so I am confident that they will pull off end-game content too.

    The trolls have been spewing shit like there where no tomorrow, about graphics, about small company not being able to make an mmo, about it all being a scam, the second DnL.

    The list goes on.,.

     

     

    right cause the fanbois havent been invading every forum spewing out DARKFALL FTW!! YOUR GAME SUXX....

    i guess love truly is blind.

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  • nileqnileq Member Posts: 476
    Originally posted by miagisan

    Originally posted by nileq

    Originally posted by DarkPony


    Nileq, NDA being lifted and the 'release' being imminent does not mean a guaranteed "The game will be good, and we will have a great game to play for years".
    We still have to see how the long term game play and endgame will be. Let's wait with handing out final verdicts for about three months or so.

    I am not exited about the NDA drop! Since I am already playing; You are right about the end-game content, it has not been tested fully to my knowledge, I personally think Aventurine have pulled of a heck of a job, and I was have been impressed with the patches, so I am confident that they will pull off end-game content too.

    The trolls have been spewing shit like there where no tomorrow, about graphics, about small company not being able to make an mmo, about it all being a scam, the second DnL.

    The list goes on.,.

     

     

    right cause the fanbois havent been invading every forum spewing out DARKFALL FTW!! YOUR GAME SUXX....

    i guess love truly is blind.



     

    my bitterness-meter just blew up! hehe

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  • cosycosy Member UncommonPosts: 3,228
    Originally posted by miagisan

    Originally posted by nileq


    well that is entirely your prerogative! 
    This game is not for everyone, but that has never been the issue here att mmorpg.com

     

    and your post is nothing but troll bait. good job! the game is still not even close to being ready for release yet. and i still stand by that opinion after having played it.

    for example i consider the game ready for release when it is playable because in all MMO there are allot of things to add/balance after release.

    BestSigEver :P
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  • heartlessheartless Member UncommonPosts: 4,993
    Originally posted by nileq

    Originally posted by heartless


    I can understand that people are excited because of the NDA drop and there is an influx of information, most of which we knew from other sources anyway. However, eventhough some may consider this NDA drop as a victory, the state of the game has not changed. It is still very much unfinished and needs lots of work.
    However, if you are happy with playing a subpar game, who am I to tell you otherwise? We all have our own tastes and needs.
    My beef is not really with Darkfall, as I've been a fan of open-ended MMOs for a long time, it is with the company making it. Aventurine took such a great concept and implemented it half-assed.
    Besides that, I am weary of giving them my credit card information. Not because I think that it's a scam but because I'm not sure if they are secure enough to prevent identity theft.



     

    I am not exited about the NDA drop!

    I am actually playing the game, and have been for quite a while. I am only saying what I have wanted (but been unable) to say. Because I have first hand knowledge of the game.

    My forumfall nick is gloomis and it has the tag "beta tester" under it, what is yours?

     

    Everyone has their own opinion. You seem to think that the game is great, I think that it has the potential to be great but isn't at this point.

    I guess we'll find out on the 25th if the majority of the people actually like the game when the masses get access to it and not just the fans.

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  • SpoonpottSpoonpott Member Posts: 180
    Originally posted by nileq

    Originally posted by DarkPony


    Nileq, NDA being lifted and the 'release' being imminent does not mean a guaranteed "The game will be good, and we will have a great game to play for years".
    We still have to see how the long term game play and endgame will be. Let's wait with handing out final verdicts for about three months or so.

    I am not exited about the NDA drop! Since I am already playing; You are right about the end-game content, it has not been tested fully to my knowledge, I personally think Aventurine have pulled of a heck of a job, and I was have been impressed with the patches, so I am confident that they will pull off end-game content too.

    The trolls have been spewing shit like there where no tomorrow, about graphics, about small company not being able to make an mmo, about it all being a scam, the second DnL.

    The list goes on.,.

     

    Yup it does, and trust me I dont need to look at graphics and animations to be hugely dissapointed with how the game turned out when there's terrible design decisions I can get mad at.

    The rules of Debate are really simple; once you have to stoop to insults instead of facts, logic, or reason to try and win your argument, you've lost.

  • jimmyman99jimmyman99 Member UncommonPosts: 3,221
    Originally posted by heartless


    I can understand that people are excited because of the NDA drop and there is an influx of information, most of which we knew from other sources anyway. However, eventhough some may consider this NDA drop as a victory, the state of the game has not changed. It is still very much unfinished and needs lots of work.
    However, if you are happy with playing a subpar game, who am I to tell you otherwise? We all have our own tastes and needs.
    My beef is not really with Darkfall, as I've been a fan of open-ended MMOs for a long time, it is with the company making it. Aventurine took such a great concept and implemented it half-assed.
    Besides that, I am weary of giving them my credit card information. Not because I think that it's a scam but because I'm not sure if they are secure enough to prevent identity theft.

    "heartless critically hits the point with well put argument"

    My thoughts exactly! I'm a big fan of the game (otherwise i wouldn't post here), but I am not a big fan of the company behind it. I'm very much puzzled by people who claim victory because NDA was lifted. If anything, the company should be criticized that it took them this long to lift NDA and takes this long to make a game. Sure, indie company, not a lot of money, but still, 8 years?

    In reality, its not about how much money you have, its about how resourcefull you are. We've seen big companies with big money flop. Why? Because their system overall is not efficient. Good QA, solid middle management, decent programming and good administrators. If you lack in some or all of those, then money or no money, the development time will increase by a certain percentage and chances of failure drastically increase.

    Good post.

    I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
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  • heartlessheartless Member UncommonPosts: 4,993
    Originally posted by Darkstar111



    As I said, as if it matters. Its not like we didn't have hundreds of leaks telling us the same thing we now know.  With the NDA down ppl can no longer claim the leaks where lies.
    Agreed. The beta leaks were out there. I did find it funny though that when the first negative leak apeared, people were bashing the poster because they thought that he was lying. Now that the NDA is lifted, a lot of people seem to think that this game is not as great as the fanboys claimed it to be.
    Not to be to agressive, but ive never seen a game that releases system specs months before release, simply because of the proccess they have to go throu to arrive at a minimum recomended.
    Jumpgate Evolution, Age of Conan, Warhammer Online, City of Heroes... Want me to go on? The reason is that those games went through a proper beta test and stress test. With the exception of Age of Conan, I have no idea what Funcom was trying to do and I was in technical and then closed beta.


    NDA yeah, but they chose not to, its different, u might not like it, but its their company, at the end of the day the only thing that really matters is if the game is good.
     I'm not going to argue about the whole NDA thing. At least they dropped it with barely enough time for people to make a decision.
    After all the NDA dropping by itself means nothing, but what it showed us is what its all about.
    Like Truly High def  videos showing the actual graphics of the game are nowhere NEAR as bad as some people would have us believe.
    I've noticed that a lot of people confuse graphics with art style. While the graphics themselves may be nice, the art style and design of the world and characters and their animations is amateur-ish at best.
    To put it into an easier to understand perspective: you can take a high definition picture of a turd but at the end of the day it will still be a turd.

     

    My comments are in green.

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  • jimmyman99jimmyman99 Member UncommonPosts: 3,221
    Originally posted by heartless



    Everyone has their own opinion. You seem to think that the game is great, I think that it has the potential to be great but isn't at this point.
    I guess we'll find out on the 25th if the majority of the people actually like the game when the masses get access to it and not just the fans.

     

    Id even say wait at least 3 months after release, lets see how many people buy the game, taste it, and then leave or stay. If after 3 months the pop keeps increasing then it is doing great. If not, well, its not doing that great.

    I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
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  • nileqnileq Member Posts: 476

    Jimmyman

    I think you will have to give it more than 3 months, it is damn harsh and many people will find it not to their liking and will quit.

    After 6 months we might begin to see a stable DFO-subscriberbase.

    Many e-peens will be broken before that ;-)

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  • egotripegotrip Member Posts: 875
    Originally posted by nileq


    Jimmyman
    I think you will have to give it more than 3 months, it is damn harsh and many people will find it not to their liking and will quit.
    After 6 months we might begin to see a stable DFO-subscriberbase.
    Many e-peens will be broken before that ;-)

    None may deny the truth of it and that is that ,asides from numbers ,patience and time separate the winners from the losers in more than one occasions as history has shown us; 3 months time are gonna be a good indicator of the game's status ,six months is the ideal time IMO,for someone to tell whether or not the game is worth playing if one can wait that long !

     Given the current state of the game personally i will wait 6 months before i decide to play but that's just me; so every person should make up their own mind based on their own opinion, perception,experiences and understanding of the game and not somebody elses whether that persons opinion is "teh game suxxorz" or "teh game pwnzor"............

     

     

    Iiii-iiiiiit's.... me!!! *Hooray*

  • antiherozeroantiherozero Member UncommonPosts: 76
    Originally posted by miagisan

    Originally posted by nileq


    well that is entirely your prerogative! 
    This game is not for everyone, but that has never been the issue here att mmorpg.com

     

    and your post is nothing but troll bait. good job! the game is still not even close to being ready for release yet. and i still stand by that opinion after having played it.



     

    What MMO has ever released in a more public-ready state than current DFO beta?  What specifically is so very not ready?

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