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recognizerecognize Member Posts: 27

    After much research, and play various MMOs, I have decided to play this game.  However, I have read many posts both here, and on the main EQ site, about classes and races.  However each site agrees that the game is now almost 100% different due to expansions.  So here I am looking for some kind soul to pitty my noob soul and help me with a couple quests.

    --First, which class is best at melee dps.  During my free trial I tried out the Assassin and the Zerker, and both were fun.  However I like to lean towards having Heavy/Plate armor and a 2 handed weapon, but also wouldn't mind dual wielding.  Also, I have never really gotten into a game with dual class system, so which class would compliment the melee class the best?

Summery of above: What is the best melee class? and is it viable in PvP?

 

    --Secondly, is there any difference between good or evil, besides the classes? and which has a higher population.

   -- Also, Are there any major differences in races besides the looks? and if so which race is best for melee?

   -- Lastly, Does it matter which city I start in? Any buffs or items I receive for playing a certain race, starting in a certain city?

Sorry about all of the noob questions, but any help at all would be greatly appreciated!

~Rec

 

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  • NadiaNadia Member UncommonPosts: 11,798

    cannot respond to PVP effectiveness because I do not PVP

     

    2h tanker -- try Shadowknight

    dual wielding light tanker - try Bruiser/Monk

     

    Race benefits,

    at high levels it really does not matter but heres a linked list of different racial abilities

    full list

    www.eq2flames.com/noob-questions/14555-rok-new-racial-abilities.html

    by Race  (not in a long list format)

    eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Character_Race

     

     

    Good/Evil does not matter -- altho some classes are restricted to starting in specific Good/evil cities

    eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Race/Class_Comparison

     

    Quest Guide of where to go at what level

    eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Solo_Timelines

  • recognizerecognize Member Posts: 27

    Thankyou for the very helpful information!

     

    I think I have narrowed my choices down to Berserker and Assassin, anyone have any input on the two classes?

  • SamuraiswordSamuraisword Member Posts: 2,111

    Some more tips for you.

    If you play on the exchange server, you can  buy a fully leveled character so you don't have to deal with the tedium of actually playing.

    If you can't find a preleveled character that suits your needs, you can buy experience potions with Stationcash and become maxed out lickety split.

     

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  • NadiaNadia Member UncommonPosts: 11,798
    Originally posted by recognize

    I have narrowed my choices down to Berserker and Assassin, anyone have any input on the two classes?

    Tentonhammer has class guides

    both guides were last updated March 2008

     

    Berserker

    www.tentonhammer.com/node/55494

    Assassin

    www.tentonhammer.com/node/55127

  • recognizerecognize Member Posts: 27
    Originally posted by Samuraisword


    Some more tips for you.
    If you play on the exchange server, you can  buy a fully leveled character so you don't have to deal with the tedium of actually playing.
    If you can't find a preleveled character that suits your needs, you can buy experience potions with Stationcash and become maxed out lickety split.
     

     

    lol, Sounds tempting, but  i actually want to lvl a class from start to finish. I am afraid that if I buy a pre leveled char, I will lose interest in the game very quickly. And not know what i am doing.

  • UmbralUmbral Member Posts: 1,051
    Originally posted by recognize


    Thankyou for the very helpful information!
     
    I think I have narrowed my choices down to Berserker and Assassin, anyone have any input on the two classes?



     

    Berserker - Tank/Dps can use 2 handed weapons, one handed+shield and dual welding, the damage output can be average/high (for a tank) on raids and multiple encounters. In group play you can be main tank, off tank or just DPS, usually people will ask you to tank in instances/dungeons.

    Assassin - tier 1 dps, very, very high single target dpser, one of the higher damage outputs in game, with tracker and stealth you can solo pvp (against solo kills)  better than the Berserker, but the zerker isnt bad in PvP at all.

    As an assassin it would be easier for you to get spots on raid guilds, it will be easier to you to solo hunt in PvP, but you will die faster than the Berserker.

    If you really dont want to Tank, the assassin would be a better option, but if you enjoy  tanking and the role of a devensive damage dealer, the Berserker is for you.

    The ShadowKnight is a fantastic class, but more of a vampiric tank/mage hybrid, melee damage of a berserker is higher than the damage output of a SK (even with harm touch).

    About damage output.

    t1 assassin/ranger/warlock/wizard

    t2 swash/brigand/conj/necro

    t3 monk/bruiser/enchanters/dirge/troub

    t4 a Berserker/Shadowknight

    t4 b Guard/Palad

    t5 healers

    But keep in mind, a Berserker can top parse in a raid encounter and even a fury can dish a lot of damage...but usually assassin will be top 1 in damage against solo encounters and a Warlock will be top in multi encounter.(not an universal rule)

    Take a look into Swashs and Brigand aswell, they are the tank/scouts, something between an assassin and a zerker.

    Scouts also have good debuffs plus tracking, you may enjoy it.

     

    ...

  • BarCrowBarCrow Member UncommonPosts: 2,195

    I just started playing a Kerra Monk......enjoying it thus far...but still on the island. What is a complementary dual class to play with a monk?

  • NadiaNadia Member UncommonPosts: 11,798
    Originally posted by BarCrow


    I just started playing a Kerra Monk......enjoying it thus far...but still on the island. What is a complementary dual class to play with a monk?

    I personally prefer druid with monk

     

    advantages of druid

    - heals

    - transportation,  sow and druid portals  (evac with warden, group invis with fury)

    - buffs

     

    also I recommend getting off that island  (now even) and making a beeline for Timorous Deep

    eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Timorous_Deep_Timeline

     

    for anyone with interest, 

    link to all the Class guides at TenTonHammer

    www.tentonhammer.com/eq2/guides

    link to Class overviews at EQ2 wiki

    eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Class

  • teddy_bareteddy_bare Member UncommonPosts: 398
    Originally posted by BarCrow


    I just started playing a Kerra Monk......enjoying it thus far...but still on the island. What is a complementary dual class to play with a monk?

     

    Besides the obvious answer of a healer, particularly a Druid (Warden or Fury), the class that best compliments ANY and ALL melee classes is my main, the Dirge.

    Dirge's take a good melee or tank class, and makes them absolutely godly. Dirge's have amazing debuffs which lower the mobs mitigation to physical AND magical dmg, as well as lowering the dmg output of said mob, while at the same time using their awesome buffs to buff Str and Agi, dps, combat skills (slashing, piercing, and ranged), and giving a sweet dmg proc. If you are a melee or tank class, you will be wanting to make friends with a Dirge that knows what he's doing and bring him everywhere with you.

    If you were a caster, you would want a Troubador, they do for casters what Dirge's do for melee.

  • BarCrowBarCrow Member UncommonPosts: 2,195
    Originally posted by Nadia

    Originally posted by BarCrow


    I just started playing a Kerra Monk......enjoying it thus far...but still on the island. What is a complementary dual class to play with a monk?

    I personally prefer druid with monk

     

    advantages of druid

    - heals

    - transportation,  sow and druid portals  (evac with warden, group invis with fury)

    - buffs

     

    also I recommend getting off that island  (now even) and making a beeline for Timorous Deep

    eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Timorous_Deep_Timeline

     

    for anyone with interest, 

    link to all the Class guides at TenTonHammer

    www.tentonhammer.com/eq2/guides

    link to Class overviews at EQ2 wiki

    eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Class

    Great!...thanks..timorous deep and druid. Was looking for druid as first choice..so dualed out should work. Again thanks...I'm only 8th level...so I think I'll wander the isle for a bit...don't know if I've missed any quests.

  • UmbralUmbral Member Posts: 1,051
    Originally posted by Nadia

    Originally posted by BarCrow


    I just started playing a Kerra Monk......enjoying it thus far...but still on the island. What is a complementary dual class to play with a monk?

    I personally prefer druid with monk...

     



    I would also suggest a mystic/defiler.

    Monk tanking and defense is based on avoidance and mystic/defiler ward system work well with avoindance.

    Defilers and Mystics are also rare than druids.

    Barcrow, if you dont want to tank with your monk, a monk with a conj/necro, or even a monk with a SK/Pally can do good things.

     

    ...

  • dimmit77dimmit77 Member Posts: 294

    Best melee dps class is by far assasin. SK's are overpowered atm , and they can give huge dps numbers in group encounters. I expect SK's to be nerfed soon. Probably when the fighter revamp hits. Good/evil and racial abilities are mostly fluff, wont make a difference in developing your char. Only real difference you have to take into account is what deity you will follow. Some are only available to good characters or vice versa. So if you wanna follow cazic thule you have to be evil for example.

  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441
    Originally posted by recognize


        After much research, and play various MMOs, I have decided to play this game.  However, I have read many posts both here, and on the main EQ site, about classes and races.  However each site agrees that the game is now almost 100% different due to expansions.  So here I am looking for some kind soul to pitty my noob soul and help me with a couple quests.
        --First, which class is best at melee dps.  During my free trial I tried out the Assassin and the Zerker, and both were fun.  However I like to lean towards having Heavy/Plate armor and a 2 handed weapon, but also wouldn't mind dual wielding.  Also, I have never really gotten into a game with dual class system, so which class would compliment the melee class the best?
    Summery of above: What is the best melee class? and is it viable in PvP?
    Well, Assasin or Swashie are the best melee DPS classes. Swashie is more aimed to AoE While assasin is a stealthy backstabber. My main is a swashie and only rarely get outDPSed by someone, and only by assasins (happened twice). None of those have 2H weapons though.
    For heavy armour, get the 'zerker, they have ok DPS and can tank well also. They can use 2H weapons, it is probably what you are looking for.
     
        --Secondly, is there any difference between good or evil, besides the classes? and which has a higher population.
    On PvP servers I noticed that Evil has a bit more players. It have a difference but you can change between them anyways, it will cost you some cash since your skills will be reseted, not a big deal until after you are lvl 40 but costly later. It is also not easy to change on a PvP server, particulary if you can't stealth.
       -- Also, Are there any major differences in races besides the looks? and if so which race is best for melee?
    There are some initially but it evens out more or less after a while, go for the looks.
       -- Lastly, Does it matter which city I start in? Any buffs or items I receive for playing a certain race, starting in a certain city?
    The loot around Q and freep are worse than the other places, that is the only difference together with that some are a little harder to get to and from then others.
    Sorry about all of the noob questions, but any help at all would be greatly appreciated!
    ~Rec
    My reccomendation is that you run 5-10 levels with a few classes to try things out, 5 levels just take 2-3 hours even if you take it slowly. The game really start to shine once you start with solo dungeons. And don't forget to uppgrade your spell to at least adept ones, if you PvP a lot you will need masters for some.
    Good luck
     



     

  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441
    Originally posted by dimmit77


    Best melee dps class is by far assasin. SK's are overpowered atm , and they can give huge dps numbers in group encounters. I expect SK's to be nerfed soon. Probably when the fighter revamp hits. Good/evil and racial abilities are mostly fluff, wont make a difference in developing your char. Only real difference you have to take into account is what deity you will follow. Some are only available to good characters or vice versa. So if you wanna follow cazic thule you have to be evil for example.

     

    Not by that much, Swashie is right after if you spec it right.

    I do have good gear but it only happened twice that a Assasin same level or close outDPSed my swashie. But Swashie do more AoE while Ass do more on a single target.

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