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Well waited almost 6 years not gonne play:(

EvasiaEvasia Member Posts: 2,827

Ive played a month beta and even tho i had fun exploring some fun pvp its stilla big dissapointment.

Its just not finished world is deserted good luck with 10k peeps fighting over a couple of mobs.

Ok main focus is pvp clan vs clan but this game is mainly made for pure pk/gankers/griefers ANTI will have hard time they be punished by this alignment system while pk get a helping hand.

Lore is totally throw over board ARAC clans are best choice and have it more easy to exploit macro.

Siege is very simple and most clans will exploit and macro every thing in about a week or two  max out many skills and have it all.

Well such game i wont play im realy dissapointed in these devs there vision was great and at the end i find out in beta that about everything they promise is not in game or sucks.

Craft click click click click

magic shoot  mm into air for few days afk.

Sprint into walls for few days afk

Craft afk.

Fight your own for days by bindstone and skill up.

This game could be awesome but devs made crap out of it cater towards cheatres and pk only:(

And so are many skills easyely macroing and max out in week.

There is no complexity in Darkfall its all very simple, you can harvest same mats all over the world a bush in near starter town give same as bush in romote high skilllvl areas.

Good luck Darkfall, ill wait a few months and see if it have improved or this game aint for me.

Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009.....
In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.

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  • Rayx0rRayx0r Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 2,902

    ya the vacancy of mobs I can live with.  Poor animations, I can live with.  Hearing that macro skill ups are alive and well in this game is my biggest deterent.  I kept one eye on this game since I heard about it, but Im gonna pass on it.  Its nothing what I thought it was going to be in a FFA pvp game...and no matter how much people convince themselves.. its absolutely not shadowbane OR Ultima Online.  Not even a shell of it

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  • egotripegotrip Member Posts: 875

    Evasia if what you write in this post is not an attempt of sarcasm i must admit i'm shocked.......

    Of all people i wasn't expecting to see such a post from one of the more loyal followers of Darkfall,however if you were being sarcastic i must admit you had me you are even better at it than Polarization....

    Still if you mean what you wrote the only thing i can tell you is "see you in Earthrise or MO, whichever comes first"

    Iiii-iiiiiit's.... me!!! *Hooray*

  • EvasiaEvasia Member Posts: 2,827

    Well it have alot of potential and game looks great but as i mentioned its just not finished and macro/exploit heaven.

    This game you can't comepare with UO/SB thats rediculas these are old and awefull looking games in 2D, plus SB had many bugs.

    Darkfall is super stable and it runs smooth i never had lag or crash or ahad slow down even with many fighting around me.

    Its Alignment system towers empty world simple gameplay and cheating i dont like plus its almost 100% favor for pk not anti.

    Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009.....
    In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.

  • SgtFrogSgtFrog Member Posts: 5,001
    Originally posted by Evasia


    Ive played a month beta and even tho i had fun exploring some fun pvp its stilla big dissapointment.
    Its just not finished world is deserted good luck with 10k peeps fighting over a couple of mobs.
    Ok main focus is pvp clan vs clan but this game is mainly made for pure pk/gankers/griefers ANTI will have hard time they be punished by this alignment system while pk get a helping hand.
    Lore is totally throw over board ARAC clans are best choice and have it more easy to exploit macro.
    Siege is very simple and most clans will exploit and macro every thing in about a week or two  max out many skills and have it all.
    Well such game i wont play im realy dissapointed in these devs there vision was great and at the end i find out in beta that about everything they promise is not in game or sucks.
    Craft click click click click
    magic shoot  mm into air for few days afk.
    Sprint into walls for few days afk
    Craft afk.
    Fight your own for days by bindstone and skill up.
    This game could be awesome but devs made crap out of it cater towards cheatres and pk only:(
    And so are many skills easyely macroing and max out in week.
    There is no complexity in Darkfall its all very simple, you can harvest same mats all over the world a bush in near starter town give same as bush in romote high skilllvl areas.
    Good luck Darkfall, ill wait a few months and see if it have improved or this game aint for me.

    HAHA told you so :p J/K

    any way on a more serious note you where a really devoted fan, sorry you never found the game you wanted :/

    im think im going to give up on mmorpg genre...nothing but disapointment after disapointment

     

     

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  • EvasiaEvasia Member Posts: 2,827

    Well i first came here as forestchild with my avatar from Darkfall and for years promoted Darkfall here on mmorpg.com, then i got banned for reason i dont agree with but ok np i made a new account this one and many if they pay little attention know i was one of biggest fans.

    But im also realistic and objective even tho im was a huge fan of Darkfall, im just very dissapointed with this game how devs have chance it into something they not visioned first, thats all.

    Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009.....
    In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.

  • SgtFrogSgtFrog Member Posts: 5,001
    Originally posted by Evasia


    Well i first came here as forestchild with my avatar from Darkfall and for years promoted Darkfall here on mmorpg.com, then i got banned for reason i dont agree with but ok np i made a new account this one and many if they pay little attention know i was one of biggest fans.
    But im also realistic and objective even tho im was a huge fan of Darkfall, im just very dissapointed with this game how devs have chance it into something they not visioned first, thats all.

     

    devs bit on more than they could chew, should have started with a smaller project. that what i think is the problem

    oh, and yeah admins on this site are a pain

     

    EDIT: IGNORE MY SPELLING, HAVE NOT SLEPT IN 3 DAYS :)

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  • alakramalakram Member UncommonPosts: 2,301
    Originally posted by Evasia


    Ive played a month beta and even tho i had fun exploring some fun pvp its stilla big dissapointment.
    Its just not finished world is deserted good luck with 10k peeps fighting over a couple of mobs.
    Ok main focus is pvp clan vs clan but this game is mainly made for pure pk/gankers/griefers ANTI will have hard time they be punished by this alignment system while pk get a helping hand.
    Lore is totally throw over board ARAC clans are best choice and have it more easy to exploit macro.
    Siege is very simple and most clans will exploit and macro every thing in about a week or two  max out many skills and have it all.
    Well such game i wont play im realy dissapointed in these devs there vision was great and at the end i find out in beta that about everything they promise is not in game or sucks.
    Craft click click click click
    magic shoot  mm into air for few days afk.
    Sprint into walls for few days afk
    Craft afk.
    Fight your own for days by bindstone and skill up.
    This game could be awesome but devs made crap out of it cater towards cheatres and pk only:(
    And so are many skills easyely macroing and max out in week.
    There is no complexity in Darkfall its all very simple, you can harvest same mats all over the world a bush in near starter town give same as bush in romote high skilllvl areas.
    Good luck Darkfall, ill wait a few months and see if it have improved or this game aint for me.

    What a pity.



  • altairzqaltairzq Member Posts: 3,811

    You bring up my two biggest concerns, cheating and ganking. Hopefully anti-PK guilds will appear in time. But the cheating.. macros, hacks, bots.. that I don't see how they can do anything against. Everybody is talking about macroing so it seems to be wide spread already. Add to this what a reviewer said about the game being heavily in client side, allowing coders without qualms to gather data for their cheats.

  • Amon_AmarthAmon_Amarth Member Posts: 219

    I am sorry to hear that OP, as it was clear you had high hopes for the game :(    

    I was always hoping Darkfall would be a success myself but oh well. For the time being, I have also given up on the MMO genre. Not as difficult as I thought it would be though, as Dawn of War 2 has just released and killzone 2 is out next week! :)

    Hope you find something new to enjoy Evasia!

  • egotripegotrip Member Posts: 875

    First we have zaxx supporting AND palying the game he spent a good amount of time bashing with every keystroke and now we have Evasia saying that the game is not what he/she expected and won't be playing it unless there are drastical changes made to it!!?!?!? 

    WTF is this ?? 

    Did i just enter the Twillight Zone??!?

    Or did Darkfall's release have such an impact that it shattered the very foundation of reality thus throwing us in a parralel universe where everything is in reverse??

    Iiii-iiiiiit's.... me!!! *Hooray*

  • downtoearthdowntoearth Member Posts: 3,558

     not all mobs spawns was turned on for us for 1 and couple lmao THEREs ALOt actully if you know where to go they have there own camps how do you think we made gold and got keys and shit XD for the chests

  • downtoearthdowntoearth Member Posts: 3,558
    Originally posted by egotrip


    First we have zaxx supporting AND palying the game he spent a good amount of time bashing with every keystroke and now we have Evasia saying that the game is not what he/she expected and won't be playing it unless there are drastical changes made to it!!?!?!? 
    WTF is this ?? 
    Did i just enter the Twillight Zone??!?
    Or did Darkfall's release have such an impact that it shattered the very foundation of reality thus throwing us in a parralel universe where everything is in reverse??

    no evasia is making an desicion on a beta build or just had wayt o high expectations for a indy company i bet in a few months he/she will be playing game really needs another month fo beta to improve the game but the game works so it can be released

  • Zeref.DyverZeref.Dyver Member Posts: 270
    Originally posted by SgtFrog

    Originally posted by Evasia


    Well i first came here as forestchild with my avatar from Darkfall and for years promoted Darkfall here on mmorpg.com, then i got banned for reason i dont agree with but ok np i made a new account this one and many if they pay little attention know i was one of biggest fans.
    But im also realistic and objective even tho im was a huge fan of Darkfall, im just very dissapointed with this game how devs have chance it into something they not visioned first, thats all.

     

    devs bit on more than they could chew, should have started with a smaller project. that what i think is the problem

    oh, and yeah admins on this site are a pain

     

    EDIT: IGNORE MY SPELLING, HAVE NOT SLEPT IN 3 DAYS :)

    I think the admins are much more than a pain. They are ridiculous and extremely unintelligent. I honestly think they hired a bunch of 12 year old's, lol.

     

    Edit: Oh no... Here comes my ban! lol

  • PolarizationPolarization Member Posts: 1,410

    I commend you for your honesty and integrity to actually finally admit this and tell the truth, I doubt many others who have likewise been promoting this for years will do the same but perhapes they will prove me wrong.

    We were all interested in what Darkfall could of been, unfortunately its nothing like we were all told it would be.

     
  • egotripegotrip Member Posts: 875
    Originally posted by downtoearth

    Originally posted by egotrip


    First we have zaxx supporting AND palying the game he spent a good amount of time bashing with every keystroke and now we have Evasia saying that the game is not what he/she expected and won't be playing it unless there are drastical changes made to it!!?!?!? 
    WTF is this ?? 
    Did i just enter the Twillight Zone??!?
    Or did Darkfall's release have such an impact that it shattered the very foundation of reality thus throwing us in a parralel universe where everything is in reverse??

    no evasia is making an desicion on a beta build or just had wayt o high expectations for a indy company i bet in a few months he/she will be playing game really needs another month fo beta to improve the game but the game works so it can be released

    Let me guess,  your definiton of the word sarcasm must be "somethign taht peploe weer when it scold", right?

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  • antiherozeroantiherozero Member UncommonPosts: 76
    Originally posted by Evasia


    Ok main focus is pvp clan vs clan but this game is mainly made for pure pk/gankers/griefers ANTI will have hard time they be punished by this alignment system while pk get a helping hand.
    Lore is totally throw over board ARAC clans are best choice and have it more easy to exploit macro.
    Siege is very simple and most clans will exploit and macro every thing in about a week or two  max out many skills and have it all.
    And so are many skills easyely macroing and max out in week.
    There is no complexity in Darkfall its all very simple, you can harvest same mats all over the world a bush in near starter town give same as bush in romote high skilllvl areas.



     

    First of all, a lot of what you wrote is simply false.  I hope English is not your first language.  I am in the largest alliance in beta and we have not even come close to "maxing our city out" despite considerable effort for a month.

     

    The best harvested resources are not even in-game currently.  Right now the loot tables for resources aren't completely turned on, so your statement that you can AFK macro the 'best' resources in starter towns is premature and probably BS.  Furthermore, you gather resources better when harvesting them in clan cities at special gathering sites (quarries, etc.).

     

    Anti-PK guilds do just fine in this game.  And your statement about ARAC having some huge advantage is also BS.  Currently the races have little variation between them besides the smaller sizes being harder to hit in combat.

     

    You cannot max out everything in a week.  This is a complete lie.

     

    The only truth in your entire post is the last bit I quoted about the lack of complexity.  Yes, there is a lack right now in 'some' areas of the game, but a lot of the features haven't been turned on and probably won't make release.  You're just making baseless emotional arguments against this game without using logic to articulate your point-of-view.  I hope your lack of coherence persuades people to avoid taking you seriously.

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  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441
    Originally posted by downtoearth


    no evasia is making an desicion on a beta build or just had wayt o high expectations for a indy company i bet in a few months he/she will be playing game really needs another month fo beta to improve the game but the game works so it can be released

     

    Eveasia is right, they should have waited a few more months and fixed all those exploits. They are releasing it too early like every single MMO the last few years.

    I know it is costly to spend 3-6 more months in development but it would make the game a lot better and get more players, I think they would earn money on it in the long run.

    And yes, many people did have too high expectations of the game. It seems to have potential but it also seems like they are making the same misstake as so many other MMOs.

    I hope Mortal online won't make the same misstake and release when it is really finnished.

  • Greek_MattGreek_Matt Member Posts: 354

     Wow Evasia.

    Yeah I've been hammering away at Darkfall for a while now, it's certainly been a fun few months on Forumfall, but I still take no pleasure in seeing one of DF's most loyal and devoted fans so disappointed. TBH I just sorta assumed that people like you would still enjoy the game, warts and all, and it would just be the more general gaming population (for whom the game was never really designed anyway) who would lose interest once the novelty wore off.

    Sad to see, but I guess Aventurine are really proving that small, inexperienced companies definitely have a place within the genre but should limit the scope of their projects to something more manageable and achievable, rather than shooting for the moon and burning up on re-entry. CCP's model of slow growth and expansion over a simple (and fully working) framework has been shown to be a success with EvE... seems Aventurine's vast scope but poor implementation, their trying to run before they can walk, is bringing some pretty flawed results.

    As for those who say "it just needs more time", the cold hard fact is that they're out of time. The world economy is in recession, Aventurine's investors have been more than patient waiting for some kind of return on their capital, and the huge amount of interest that this game managed to gather over the last few months is already turning to boredom (even antipathy) for most casual observers.

    Darkfall's time really is "now or never", and it's sad to see that despite all these years of development they're still not ready.

  • dembardembar Member Posts: 118

    i cant believe the amount of stupid comments you are giving.

     

    mobs/empty world

     

    mobs will be added i cant believe they would let all the camps and other kinds of spawn points completly empty.

    More players on a server will all so make the world feel more alive.

     

    sieging simple.

    yes sieging is very simple because no one has gotten the time to build and grow.

    when guilds have grown and build a good clan, city sieging wil become harder. aint that the way it should be?

     

    crafting is in every game i played, klick klick klick. now i indeed hoped something new. but its solid and it works,

     

    shooting magic in the air, why would you shoot in the air why not go out and have fun while you use mm. you are playing this game like your in wow. and wanna reach lvl 80 asap.

    now i must admit i do feel that to open the others school of magic is to slow.

    btw this counts for all you skills. stop trying to  become lvl 80 as in wow and play the damn game.

     

    fighting your own

     

    in beta you could make several chars this made it so people made throw away chars

    when the game is life people will have one char and will be more carefull. life as a red is hard esp in the beginning of your life.

     

    yes people will try to get the max out there car as far as they can. your are not forced to do this. if you play the game you will skill up and you will skill up the way you play so your char becomes better in the way YOU play.

    and not in skills that you maybe wont use ever.

    as you reach higher lvls skill gains become less this means if you maxed out a skill you are barely using you will have a harder time in skills that you use while playing.

     

    harvesting in town/outside

    nodes become empty now every time the server was reset people could harvest that node again. wich will not happen in the live servers. when a node is empty a node will be empty for several hours.

    so people will be forced to go out. maybe not deep in the wildernes. but deep enough that you can be killed. but be honest only people that wanna kill crafters will be looking for them.

     

    now one of the problems that you are in correct in is the roque system this is not working. but they say they are working on it.

     

    your reasoning is void for the most part and only give people a bad sight  on darkfall because you wanna max out your char instead of PLAYING a game.

     

  • AlienShirtAlienShirt Member UncommonPosts: 621
    Originally posted by Evasia


    Ive played a month beta and even tho i had fun exploring some fun pvp its stilla big dissapointment.
    Its just not finished world is deserted good luck with 10k peeps fighting over a couple of mobs.
    Ok main focus is pvp clan vs clan but this game is mainly made for pure pk/gankers/griefers ANTI will have hard time they be punished by this alignment system while pk get a helping hand.
    Lore is totally throw over board ARAC clans are best choice and have it more easy to exploit macro.
    Siege is very simple and most clans will exploit and macro every thing in about a week or two  max out many skills and have it all.
    Well such game i wont play im realy dissapointed in these devs there vision was great and at the end i find out in beta that about everything they promise is not in game or sucks.
    Craft click click click click
    magic shoot  mm into air for few days afk.
    Sprint into walls for few days afk
    Craft afk.
    Fight your own for days by bindstone and skill up.
    This game could be awesome but devs made crap out of it cater towards cheatres and pk only:(
    And so are many skills easyely macroing and max out in week.
    There is no complexity in Darkfall its all very simple, you can harvest same mats all over the world a bush in near starter town give same as bush in romote high skilllvl areas.
    Good luck Darkfall, ill wait a few months and see if it have improved or this game aint for me.



     

    Wait a few months? If 6+ years wasn't enough time to make a successful game why do you think they can turn it around in a few months?

  • cosycosy Member UncommonPosts: 3,228

    if i play this game is because of PK, gank and grief  not for PVE

    thx OP for clearing some stuff

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  • Zayne3145Zayne3145 Member Posts: 1,448

    Wow. I am literally shocked. Although I haven't always agreed with the way you promoted DF and some of your counter-arguments, I have to commend your humility in this instance. 6 years is a long time to wait for a game and it would be easy to don the rose-tinted glasses and ignore its shortcomings. I hope you eventually find a game you really enjoy.

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  • JeroKaneJeroKane Member EpicPosts: 7,098

    Just the fact that they push this game out too early, with the world mostly empty and void of life. (ala Dark & Light and Vanguard).

    Plus that they clearly have run out of money and surely don't have the GM staff and tools in place to deal with exploiters and cheaters.

    This game is going to be overrun by cheaters, botters, macro'ers, etc. And nothing is going to be done about it.

    Good luck with that.

  • dembardembar Member Posts: 118

    you posted this on the darkfall forums to. And to my suprise YOUR NOT A BETA TESTER.

     

    i replied there Same name as here. and yes i am a beta tester!

     

     

  • EvasiaEvasia Member Posts: 2,827
    Originally posted by antiherozero

    Originally posted by Evasia


    Ok main focus is pvp clan vs clan but this game is mainly made for pure pk/gankers/griefers ANTI will have hard time they be punished by this alignment system while pk get a helping hand.
    Lore is totally throw over board ARAC clans are best choice and have it more easy to exploit macro.
    Siege is very simple and most clans will exploit and macro every thing in about a week or two  max out many skills and have it all.
    And so are many skills easyely macroing and max out in week.
    There is no complexity in Darkfall its all very simple, you can harvest same mats all over the world a bush in near starter town give same as bush in romote high skilllvl areas.



     

    First of all, a lot of what you wrote is simply false.  I hope English is not your first language.  I am in the largest alliance in beta and we have not even come close to "maxing our city out" despite considerable effort for a month.

     

    The best harvested resources are not even in-game currently.  Right now the loot tables for resources aren't completely turned on, so your statement that you can AFK macro the 'best' resources in starter towns is premature and probably BS.  Furthermore, you gather resources better when harvesting them in clan cities at special gathering sites (quarries, etc.).

     

    Anti-PK guilds do just fine in this game.  And your statement about ARAC having some huge advantage is also BS.  Currently the races have little variation between them besides the smaller sizes being harder to hit in combat.

     

    You cannot max out everything in a week.  This is a complete lie.

     

    The only truth in your entire post is the last bit I quoted about the lack of complexity.  Yes, there is a lack right now in 'some' areas of the game, but a lot of the features haven't been turned on and probably won't make release.  You're just making baseless emotional arguments against this game without using logic to articulate your point-of-view.  I hope your lack of coherence persuades people to avoid taking you seriously.

    Lol we have clearly not played the same game you must have been in a other beta maybe?

     

    Just be honest if you have played beta that you dont mind that cheating exploits macro maybe even botting wwill super easy in Darkfall and for mobs WTF your realy have not left starter area right?

    Ive explored world for 2 weeks main continent and sub continents, avarage of players in beta at all time was around 2k sure for that number its maybe enough but for 10k comeone game is for 70% deserted with no mobs at all, your satements are false.

    The game is just pk haeven without any risk you can grief wholeday long newbees and nobs same race.

    ARAC clans is so easy gamelore and what devs promise all those years where a lie they have best chance again your liar here.

    You can max out skills in a week are you just ingnorant or dont wanne see this or dont give shit?

     

    Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009.....
    In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.

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