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Dirge and Inquisitor or Defiler

AbraxosAbraxos Member Posts: 412

Me and the wife are back to play EQ2 again. We had made a Zerker and Defiler but now she seems to like the Dirge. My question is would an inquisitor be a better choice for a Dirge or Defiler?

We mostly will duo and the eventually join a guild for raid stuff. It would seem that a plate Cleric could "tank" a bit for most solo/quest mobs to keep the dmg off the Dirge but the Defiler has slows and such that might also help?

Which would be fastest combo?

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  • DarwaDarwa Member UncommonPosts: 2,181

    Defiler due to the nature of damage dealt and resists debuffed.

    The Defilers wards more than make up for the mitigation of the Inquisitor.

  • AbraxosAbraxos Member Posts: 412
    Originally posted by darwa


    Defiler due to the nature of damage dealt and resists debuffed.
    The Defilers wards more than make up for the mitigation of the Inquisitor.



     

    Cool! That means I can goof off while she levels up a new character. Appreciate it.

  • DarwaDarwa Member UncommonPosts: 2,181

    lol

    No worries

  • edmonaledmonal Member Posts: 188

    I'd suggest the Inquisitor. I feel that the Defiler is an awesome healer (I'm leveling one right now), but you can make the Inquisitor into a melee machine. With it's reactive heals, and ability to use the Inquisitor tree to turn all the offensive spells into combat arts, it would be the best match with a Dirge. The key is the Dirge is the best melee buffer in the game, it would give added oomph to the Inquisitor. It's a pretty powerful duo.

  • DarwaDarwa Member UncommonPosts: 2,181
    Originally posted by edmonal


    I'd suggest the Inquisitor. I feel that the Defiler is an awesome healer (I'm leveling one right now), but you can make the Inquisitor into a melee machine. With it's reactive heals, and ability to use the Inquisitor tree to turn all the offensive spells into combat arts, it would be the best match with a Dirge. The key is the Dirge is the best melee buffer in the game, it would give added oomph to the Inquisitor. It's a pretty powerful duo.

     

    Inquisitor a melee machine? Dear gods no!

    Inquisitors were 'THE' healer back before DoF, but frankly nowadays, they're just a faster way to solo a toon to betray to Templar.

    Inquisitor provides less DPS than a Defiler (yes, even with Dirge buffs). Reactive heals are good on tanks, but on a Dirge, they won't cut it.

    What you seem to have missed it that the OP was asking with a view to raiding. Unless they find a server that's completely different from the 3 I play on, then there are loads of Templars (most used to be Inquisitors), but not too many Defilers.

    I think that Mystic would be an even better choice still than a Defiler, but that wasn't thrown into the mix.

  • AbraxosAbraxos Member Posts: 412

    I guess I really want to be playing an SK or Zerker right now but I always make my wife play healer so I'm letting her play flashy sword person for a change.  I made the Defiler because I dig the evil shaman vibe but was considering the Inquisitor because it seems like with the Battlecleric line that I might be a semi-descent non-raid tank for a duo. I can't taunt but could take a punch and allow the Dirge to do her thing? I'm on Antonia Bayle so I imagine they have alot of Templars so maybe Defiler is the way to go?

    So what would the Mystic offer over the Defiler? Is it a more melee centric healer?

  • NadiaNadia Member UncommonPosts: 11,798
    Originally posted by Abraxos


    So what would the Mystic offer over the Defiler? Is it a more melee centric healer?

    yes

    Mystics are able to AA spec their spells into Combat Arts

  • BaleoutBaleout Member Posts: 141
    Originally posted by Abraxos


    I guess I really want to be playing an SK or Zerker right now but I always make my wife play healer so I'm letting her play flashy sword person for a change.  I made the Defiler because I dig the evil shaman vibe but was considering the Inquisitor because it seems like with the Battlecleric line that I might be a semi-descent non-raid tank for a duo. I can't taunt but could take a punch and allow the Dirge to do her thing? I'm on Antonia Bayle so I imagine they have alot of Templars so maybe Defiler is the way to go?
    So what would the Mystic offer over the Defiler? Is it a more melee centric healer?



     

    Yes i have a level 78 defiler they rock but i also have have level 80 Troub both spell centric.

    With a dirge i would go mystic both are more melee centric both would have an easy time getting in a guild later also for raiding.

  • CoderCoder Member UncommonPosts: 63

    Inquisitor where never THE healer, not even before DoF, and I have played one since Nov.04.

    An Inquisitor easily out DPS a Defiler anyday, I don't know what kind of Inquisitors you have seen Darwa but putting out 2-3k DPS solo as a Inq is no problem, I have never seen a Defiler do the same. Raiding I have seen consistent 6-7k parses from a Inq. At level 80.



    Duoed with a Dirge the Inq (Battle Cleric) could tank, the Dirge just needs to put his hate buff on the Inq and the Inq provides DPS and heals.



    Mystics are usually more in demand since there seems to be few of them, and fewer that are any good.



    Generally Fury, Mystic and Inq are considered the DPS priests, where the Fury is spell based and the other two are melee (with the correct AA setup).



    I'd also suggest you read some on the official forums and eq2flames if you want some good information.

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  • DarwaDarwa Member UncommonPosts: 2,181
    Originally posted by Coder


    Inquisitor where never THE healer, not even before DoF, and I have played one since Nov.04.

    An Inquisitor easily out DPS a Defiler anyday, I don't know what kind of Inquisitors you have seen Darwa but putting out 2-3k DPS solo as a Inq is no problem, I have never seen a Defiler do the same. Raiding I have seen consistent 6-7k parses from a Inq. At level 80.



    Duoed with a Dirge the Inq (Battle Cleric) could tank, the Dirge just needs to put his hate buff on the Inq and the Inq provides DPS and heals.



    Mystics are usually more in demand since there seems to be few of them, and fewer that are any good.



    Generally Fury, Mystic and Inq are considered the DPS priests, where the Fury is spell based and the other two are melee (with the correct AA setup).



    I'd also suggest you read some on the official forums and eq2flames if you want some good information.

    Inquisitor was my first live toon, so I've played one since Nov 04 as well (always makes me laugh when people gives dates for things like this). In fact, I've taken 3 up to cap so far. The best I've managed to get out of my Inquisitor was 3k using the Thex Mallet, and my Defiler easily tops 3.5k. I've read about Inquisitors parsing 9k, but I've not been able to duplicate this.

    On the 3 servers I regularly play on (Antonia Bayle, Mistmoore, and Test), there is a shortage of Defilers at endgame, and an abundance of Mystics. Must be different on yours.

    I've found that the top 3 priest archetypes that consistantly provide the most dps are (in order from top) Fury, Warden, Mystic. I won't argue the part about Fury being spell based though

     ****EDIT****

    Just checked and the last time I parsed them both was pre-TSO, so you could be right about the figures.

  • CoderCoder Member UncommonPosts: 63
    Originally posted by Abraxos


    Me and the wife are back to play EQ2 again. We had made a Zerker and Defiler but now she seems to like the Dirge. My question is would an inquisitor be a better choice for a Dirge or Defiler?
    We mostly will duo and the eventually join a guild for raid stuff. It would seem that a plate Cleric could "tank" a bit for most solo/quest mobs to keep the dmg off the Dirge but the Defiler has slows and such that might also help?
    Which would be fastest combo?



     

    In reality it doesn't matter if you pick Defiler, Mystic or Inquisitor, either one you pick you usually have to be better then the one they have to get a raid spot. This depends some on the raid guild you apply to, but for most higher end raid guilds this is true, they won't take a crappy defiler cause they need a defiler, they rather take the well played mystic.

    Darwa: Get a hold of the hammer from Pawbuster or Twins, a level 80 weapon doesn't miss as much as level 79 weapon against 80+ mobs. Mallet of Thex looks all nice and shiny, but comes with the price that it's not a level 80 weapon. Self buffed with DPS gear and AAs 100% DA, Melee crit, dps and haste is not a problem, now just a nice weapon that hits for 3k+ each swing and you are good to go. With the Mythical and DPS gear it shouldn't be difficult to reach 2.5-3k+ solo.

    Played since Nov.04 means I started raiding once I got to 50 (which was the cap then) and have raided since and doing heroic or solo content when not raiding.

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  • AbraxosAbraxos Member Posts: 412

    Appreciate all the advice. I went ahead and made an inquisitor to play with her Dirge until we hit lvl 27 (My Defiler's lvl) and then compare the two.

    As a casual gamer, I imagine I am a long way off from a Thex Mallet or anything of that caliber but I did check out EQ2 Flames for some AA advice and such.  Right now I am leaning towards an inquisitor because it's more fun to hit stuff with a big hammer and wear cool looking plate armor for me. I know when I reach raid status that I will be a healer but right now it is pretty fun to smack stuff and feel like I am doing some melee dmg before the Dirge kills a mob.

    At 27 I might play the Defiler with her and solo the Inquisitor on the side for fun? Not sure yet. Playstyle wise I just like the Inquisitor better so far but will do some more tests. I would hate to gimp myself for raid availabilty.

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