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i play lineage 2.... why does everyone bash it?

hey,

i currently play lineage 2 and i love it. its the first oline rpg (mmorpg) ive ever played. its also the only one. im planning on getting World of Warcraft when it comes out. i also hear that Drak Age of Camelot is good as well. ide just like to know why you dont like it and why it makes it different tahn other games. i hear that theres no pk penaty in everquest... i thinks that kinda dumb. even though that s part of the game i think that you should be able to know if its some one that does that stuff.image

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  • MaselocMaseloc Member Posts: 175
    Why do people bash L2.. well for a couple reasons. I played the game for maybe 4 hours it wasnt bad at first then i relized how much it was just a expo fest. I dont know about other people but i look for content in MMORPG's and L2 just doesn't have enough for me.

  • MarrowahkMarrowahk Member Posts: 12
    what do you meen by expo fest? im sorry im new and i dont know all these terms... i just want to find one thats really good... this is the first one ive played and i think its great. if it can get better than thats awesome

  • MaselocMaseloc Member Posts: 175
    expo fest meaning all you do most of your online time is kill things for expo. I enjoy good long quests and tradeskills. Thats all im saying. but of you like it then don't worry what other people think about it... Different strokes for different folks if ya hear what im saying. Do what makes ya happy and forget everyone else.

  • HatefullHatefull Member EpicPosts: 2,503

    Amen Mes.

    I also play L2.  And I like it.  They have fixed alot of the quests, it's still a grind along, and your not really gonna get a good clan till around level 35 +.  Althought that has been changing recently.  Of course, chron 1 just hit and that has added some nice content, but I am anxious to see what chron 2 brings. 

    CS is still very lacking.  One very good thing happened yesterday, and they banned the Adena farmer company form ther server other wise known as Dragon clan.  So that will free up alot of grinding areas that were near impossible to use do to farming clans PK/KSing younger (newer) players.  Soo, I am holding my breath for Chron 2 to see if the content is worth sticking around for 10 more chronicles

    But all in al lit has been fun, I finally have all my chars to a point where I can just kinda kick back and do some quests, check things out, so for me at least, it's getting better.  Still sorely diappointed with the CS but thats a different thread.

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  • Solid_CarlSolid_Carl Member Posts: 30
    That game soured my taste for treadmilling... god why can't there be one decent mmo out now.

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  • DisruptDisrupt Member Posts: 296

    i dont bash, i...HULK SMASH! this game blows imo, if i want to grind, ill become a butcher

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  • soulseductresoulseductre Member Posts: 7
    I stayed away from the game becuaase of all the poopsocking I heard that was going on. Too much griefers in the game and people just killing for the sake of making the lowbies sad. Not really the type of community I wanna stick around. Same reason why I would never pay to live in the crappiest of dangerous projects in the world.

  • EfflareEfflare Member Posts: 6

    I'll admit I've bashed image the game, I tested it when it was in Open Beta for a while and past level 10 it was just getting really boring leveling... Although I could say the same thing for DAOC and EQ as well... Not very many games (MMORPGs) don't have the ridiculous grind... In fact I was really thinking about buying Lineage 2 until WoW came out... I'm that bored...

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  • jimothypetrojimothypetro Member Posts: 1,437

    Well people bash it becausre they hate it. :P

    And almost all people that I know of liked their first MMO, no matter the game(most people's first MMO is their all time favorite, including mine, Motor City Online::::28:: ).

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  • XiraXira Member Posts: 437

    They bash it because it sucks:) It's got open ended gankage-pvp, it's INFESTED with Koreans, the GMs don't speak english, the CS reps don't either. The CS reps always take the side of the asians, never do anything about botters or farmers, and the koreans are the most foul mouthed sexist race you'll ever meet.

    The game is One Huge Grind to get to the sort-of-ok castle seiges(Read:Mass Zerg events).
    You get the updates to the game 1-2 y!ears after the asians have them. Your opinions and desires don't matter at all to the asian devs(They only listen to their own kind). You are always a patch behind bug and exploit fixes...Which means people read about it on the korean servers then exploit them on the US servers.

    Everyone looks the same, women get to wear lingrini instead of armor, crafting in the game is teh suq...

    Shall I go ON?

  • xgothicxgothic Member Posts: 4

    Besides what previous poster said which could be somewhat true on much of what he said.

    I didnt like lineage 2 mainly tho because the DE models ran laying down .. LOL .. I HATED that look thought that was the most ridiculous movement i have ever seen on an avatar .. could never deal with looking like i was raming someone with my head constant.. when id move >> lol .. sucked in that way I couldnt get past that logged out after 1 day.  that was in beta

  • GreyfaceGreyface Member Posts: 390

    If you were built like the dark elves in Lineage 2, you'd walk around all bent over too. image

    To the original poster: it's easy to love your first online game - you won't notice the game's flaws until you see them fixed in other games.  The problems I put up with for 4 years in Ultima Online caused me to drop Star Wars Galaxies in 6 months.  If you're having fun playing Lineage 2, then keep playing it.  But, I'm warning you, playing other games may ruin you for your first. 

  • FinweFinwe Member CommonPosts: 3,106

    Personally I think that everyone who says it sucks needs to shutup. Everyone has their own relative opinion of MMORPG's. Personally I didn't like it. I didn't like EQ, DAoC, AO, and a few others. But I don't go to every EQ thread and go, "Wy does ur gam sux. Cuz it duz! PWNT!"

    Geez...Some people.

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  • Strider1233Strider1233 Member Posts: 176



    Originally posted by Marrowahk

    hey,
    i currently play lineage 2 and i love it. its the first oline rpg (mmorpg) ive ever played. its also the only one. im planning on getting World of Warcraft when it comes out. i also hear that Drak Age of Camelot is good as well. ide just like to know why you dont like it and why it makes it different tahn other games. i hear that theres no pk penaty in everquest... i thinks that kinda dumb. even though that s part of the game i think that you should be able to know if its some one that does that stuff.image



    Ah... welcome to my world! I sugest you play a different mmorpg such as star wars galaxies, or any other one with a free trial, i loved L2 when i played in open and closed beta's but now that i think about it, it really lacked in everything except graphics. But you MUST try world of warcraft when they go into open beta. Also, people that have never played an mmorpg shouldnt play L2 first, shot my expectations on graphics through the roof, now im extremely picky about which games i play.

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  • MarrowahkMarrowahk Member Posts: 12



    Originally posted by Strider1233



    Originally posted by Marrowahk

    hey,
    i currently play lineage 2 and i love it. its the first oline rpg (mmorpg) ive ever played. its also the only one. im planning on getting World of Warcraft when it comes out. i also hear that Drak Age of Camelot is good as well. ide just like to know why you dont like it and why it makes it different tahn other games. i hear that theres no pk penaty in everquest... i thinks that kinda dumb. even though that s part of the game i think that you should be able to know if its some one that does that stuff.image


    Ah... welcome to my world! I sugest you play a different mmorpg such as star wars galaxies, or any other one with a free trial, i loved L2 when i played in open and closed beta's but now that i think about it, it really lacked in everything except graphics. But you MUST try world of warcraft when they go into open beta. Also, people that have never played an mmorpg shouldnt play L2 first, shot my expectations on graphics through the roof, now im extremely picky about which games i play.



    first ide like to say how wonderful this forum is. i tried so many other ones and typed this into my web browser on mistake. (trying to go to www.mmorpgdot.com). Second i hate star wars... im not sure why but i always have. i just cant stand how cheesy it is IMO. no effense to anyoe because i know some people love it. third graphics isnt a big thing to me. lol i was such an idiot when my friend was telling me about this game while we was camping i thought it was a 2D game. then i looked it up on google whenj we got back and was like "WHOA!". 4th, the open beta for World of Warcraft is already over *sigh* To bad i wasnt into those kinda games then. I was playin halo and unreal tournament 2004 thenimage. Can anyone tell me a really good mmorpg thats in the same kinda setting as Lineage 2?

    thanks

  • XzaroXzaro Member UncommonPosts: 1,719



    Originally posted by Xira

    They bash it because it sucks:) It's got open ended gankage-pvp, it's INFESTED with Koreans, the GMs don't speak english, the CS reps don't either. The CS reps always take the side of the asians, never do anything about botters or farmers, and the koreans are the most foul mouthed sexist race you'll ever meet.
    The game is One Huge Grind to get to the sort-of-ok castle seiges(Read:Mass Zerg events).
    You get the updates to the game 1-2 y!ears after the asians have them. Your opinions and desires don't matter at all to the asian devs(They only listen to their own kind). You are always a patch behind bug and exploit fixes...Which means people read about it on the korean servers then exploit them on the US servers.
    Everyone looks the same, women get to wear lingrini instead of armor, crafting in the game is teh suq...
    Shall I go ON?



    1. Barely ANYONE PKs, other than those who are planning to quit, and if you meet one, well, tough luck.

    2. There's no koreans in it, not taiwanese, not japanese, but CHINESE people.

    3. Some GMs speak good english (I know that some are horrible and don't even understand what your saying)

    4. They ARE doing something about botters and farmers.

    5. "the koreans are the most foul mouthed sexist race you'll ever meet." Lmao, that phrase makes me laugh, sure, they may be foul mouthed and sexist, whatever you say, but your being a racist right there, isn't any better.

    6. "Sort-of-ok castle sieges"? Alright, if you've never even tried one, don't even comment on it.

    7. NA version gets the chronicles 6 months afters the koreans get it.

    Alright, before you call me a fanboy, i'm not, I defend any game that  is at least decent when stupid people bash it when they know shit about it. I have quit L2 too, because of personal reasons, and the customer service.

    You need to get your facts straight before you flame a game, or it will just make you look silly.

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  • r1tualr1tual Member Posts: 559

    You also probably have never seen all of the bot programs,  hack programs,  exploit guides,  and general adena sales on Ebay.

    Also you wouldnt be familiar with ever hearing any sort of official announcement from the L2 development team,  because there isnt one for the North American customer base.

    You would never see any patch or hotfix for a serious problem,  unless by chance it came out in a new chronicle update every 6 months.

    You would not experience legible customer service,  because they dont speak English,  and cant think logically or like Americans.  So they dont understand you,  and you wont understand them either.

    You cannot read the forums because the time you refresh your post is 10 pages back.

    And nevermind actually playing the game and getting exploited by super speed cheats and characters who are maxxed out by running bot programs while they sleep.

    What awesome fun, and what a community with integrity!  Not.

     

    BUt you might like looking up the female's skirts.  Then yeah L2 rocks.

     

  • Strider1233Strider1233 Member Posts: 176



    Originally posted by Marrowahk
    first ide like to say how wonderful this forum is. i tried so many other ones and typed this into my web browser on mistake. (trying to go to www.mmorpgdot.com). Second i hate star wars... im not sure why but i always have. i just cant stand how cheesy it is IMO. no effense to anyoe because i know some people love it. third graphics isnt a big thing to me. lol i was such an idiot when my friend was telling me about this game while we was camping i thought it was a 2D game. then i looked it up on google whenj we got back and was like "WHOA!". 4th, the open beta for World of Warcraft is already over *sigh* To bad i wasnt into those kinda games then. I was playin halo and unreal tournament 2004 thenimage. Can anyone tell me a really good mmorpg thats in the same kinda setting as Lineage 2?
    thanks




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  • FinweFinwe Member CommonPosts: 3,106

     

    Uhmmm....Because they aren't american they don't think logically? Maybe the more proper thing to say is that their culture is different and there is a large communication gap that makes Customer Service frustrating at times.

    Man, its amazing how many people on these forums seem to have a vendetta towards asians, or are just plain out racists that hate them.

     

    Its amazing whenever someone mentions Asian based games; consciously or sub-consciously you have all these, excuse the term, damned racists, flock to the thread.

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  • DjinDjin Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 3,263



    Originally posted by Xzaro



    Originally posted by Xira

    They bash it because it sucks:) It's got open ended gankage-pvp, it's INFESTED with Koreans, the GMs don't speak english, the CS reps don't either. The CS reps always take the side of the asians, never do anything about botters or farmers, and the koreans are the most foul mouthed sexist race you'll ever meet.
    The game is One Huge Grind to get to the sort-of-ok castle seiges(Read:Mass Zerg events).
    You get the updates to the game 1-2 y!ears after the asians have them. Your opinions and desires don't matter at all to the asian devs(They only listen to their own kind). You are always a patch behind bug and exploit fixes...Which means people read about it on the korean servers then exploit them on the US servers.
    Everyone looks the same, women get to wear lingrini instead of armor, crafting in the game is teh suq...
    Shall I go ON?


    1. Barely ANYONE PKs, other than those who are planning to quit, and if you meet one, well, tough luck.

    2. There's no koreans in it, not taiwanese, not japanese, but CHINESE people.

    3. Some GMs speak good english (I know that some are horrible and don't even understand what your saying)

    4. They ARE doing something about botters and farmers.

    5. "the koreans are the most foul mouthed sexist race you'll ever meet." Lmao, that phrase makes me laugh, sure, they may be foul mouthed and sexist, whatever you say, but your being a racist right there, isn't any better.

    6. "Sort-of-ok castle sieges"? Alright, if you've never even tried one, don't even comment on it.

    7. NA version gets the chronicles 6 months afters the koreans get it.

    Alright, before you call me a fanboy, i'm not, I defend any game that  is at least decent when stupid people bash it when they know shit about it. I have quit L2 too, because of personal reasons, and the customer service.

    You need to get your facts straight before you flame a game, or it will just make you look silly.


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    1. Barely ANYONE PKs, other than those who are planning to quit, and if you meet one, well, tough luck.

    #1. I don't know what you're smoking, but I can remember starting off and having a few level 10 people at the newbie place on the dwarven island.  They where killing everyone, and wouldn't let anyone by... No one PKs my ass.

    2. There's no koreans in it, not taiwanese, not japanese, but CHINESE people.

    #2. Again, I want that stuff you're smoking.  No Koreans?  Yeah okay... Hi, what? Me no speaka engrish...

    3. Some GMs speak good english (I know that some are horrible and don't even understand what your saying)

    #3. SOME...

    4. They ARE doing something about botters and farmers.

    #4. In 2007?  It's been an on going issue since day ONE!

    5. "the koreans are the most foul mouthed sexist race you'll ever meet." Lmao, that phrase makes me laugh, sure, they may be foul mouthed and sexist, whatever you say, but your being a racist right there, isn't any better.

    #5. Yeah, but to be called a "Stupid American" all the time... we're stupid for going to war, bla bla bla, gets old fast.

    6. "Sort-of-ok castle sieges"? Alright, if you've never even tried one, don't even comment on it.

    #6. If there weren't at least 3 Dwarves with those damn siege gnomes, then it's "okay"... other then that, you're not getting in.

    7. NA version gets the chronicles 6 months afters the koreans get it.

    #7. Chronicles are out for US? lol About time...  they only refixed the power of the archers AFTER that expansion...  So if you wanted to level from 1-60 in a week, just be an elven/archer...  Strongest class/race

    Shall I go on?

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  • EnigmaEnigma Member UncommonPosts: 11,384

    lol, I wont comment as many people know my stand on Lineage 2.

    HOWEVER, what I will say is this:

    If the DEVs were to add more custom character content, TRY HARDER at dealing with botters, give the Chinese population a set of servers closer to their country, write a better system of code to make it harder to add every tom, dick, and harry hack into the system, hire more english speaking GMs, and fire 40% of the American DEV team, then I would DEFINETLY try it again.

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  • DjinDjin Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 3,263

    lol...

    I don't understand why the Koreans have to come to the American servers and take them over too.  I read that people got killed in cyber cafes over there because of this gang.

    I also know there's people who get paid to play 24 hours a day... if Jonny B gets up from the chair to take a crap, another person jumps in it.

    These people live 10+ to a single house... again, known facts... you can do a google and find this information... It's a crazy game.

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  • XzaroXzaro Member UncommonPosts: 1,719



    Originally posted by Djin
    #1. I don't know what you're smoking, but I can remember starting off and having a few level 10 people at the newbie place on the dwarven island.  They where killing everyone, and wouldn't let anyone by... No one PKs my ass.
    #2. Again, I want that stuff you're smoking.  No Koreans?  Yeah okay... Hi, what? Me no speaka engrish...
    #3. SOME...
    #4. In 2007?  It's been an on going issue since day ONE!
    #5. Yeah, but to be called a "Stupid American" all the time... we're stupid for going to war, bla bla bla, gets old fast.
    #6. If there weren't at least 3 Dwarves with those damn siege gnomes, then it's "okay"... other then that, you're not getting in.

    #7. Chronicles are out for US? lol About time...  they only refixed the power of the archers AFTER that expansion...  So if you wanted to level from 1-60 in a week, just be an elven/archer...  Strongest class/race
    Shall I go on?


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    1. Level 4 people, they were taking advantage (exploting actually) of the LUCK skill. Just get past the noob stage and your fine. I am pretty sure they fixed it by now, if they haven't well...

    2. We're talking about NA version here, there are no koreans in there, only chinese adena farmers/botters, don't mix up the difference people here.

    3. Yes, some.

    4. They already banned alot of them, mind you.

    5. Some people are racist, some aren't, that's just the way the world is. If someone is a racist to me, I ignore them, shouting at them with a racist insult doesn't make you any better than them. It doesn't make me feel any better doing that too, but i don't know about you...

    6. No comment

    7. Man, when did you last play Lineage 2? Your outdated there.

    Chronicle 1 came out during June, and Chronicle 2 is scheduled somewhere near the end of the year I think.

    I have nothing against anyone, I am just trying to defend a game that is constantly being bashed at. And yes, I do hate it a bit, but I don't go on bashing it because I dislike some parts of the game.

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  • DjinDjin Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 3,263
    My Lineage II days where over a month after release. :)

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  • FinweFinwe Member CommonPosts: 3,106




    Originally posted by Djin

    #5. Yeah, but to be called a "Stupid American" all the time... we're stupid for going to war, bla bla bla, gets old fast.




    Hehehe. You think that's only from Koreans? Never go to Canada, or you'll be called a "stupid american" (I forgot what high-ranking government official had a tendency for bad-mouthing america.)

    And for we're stupid for going to war...Well...You don't need to go anywhere for that, just talk to your local democrat.

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