I have no problem with the graphics, they are acceptable to me. Combat is also pretty much as I expected. Nice that they do have collision detection, can't really have a pvp without it really. Client was pretty stable. The problem with this type of game, it is going to attract the asshats. So what did Aventurine do, put most of the code client side. Sure it speeds up server side, but the exploiters are going to have a field day with their code. This game has only been out in very limited release to selected beta testors and there is already a a list of exploits, cheats, bot programs, etc. out there on the net already. Going to be a real mess when this game gets into general release. Then you have the game mechanics problems like the loot theives, really good thinking Aventurine making you get an aggressor's tag just defending your own loot. How many other things did they not think of? This might be a good game eventually, but paying to get all the issues straightened out and having to put up with the exploiters is going to be a real test of faith for many. Me I play games to have fun. I have been looking for a game that has a decent challenge, but at the moment I just can't put up with an uneven playing field like Darkfall is serving up at present. Aventurine, especially Tasos, needs to get that arrogant chip off their shoulder and start showing some signs they are in this for the long haul and actively addressing issues. Only time will tell us what will happen with this game, I wish Aventurine success in achieving a decent game.
I have no argument with most of what you've posted except the bit about loot thieves. I think they DID think about loot thieves and, staying with their original sandbox, player freedom design, did not put any artificial constraints on looting. I don't have any problem with it. If I have to kill to protect my loot, so be it. The only place it really makes a difference is the newbie areas anyway. Went red? So what? big deal.
Anyway, getting back to the rest of your post, I can't fault any of it and it sounds like you have made a fair choice to wait for a more complete and tested product. Myself, even the incomplete and untested product is funner to me than the game I was most recently playing (WAR). Nor are there any other games (most of which I have at least tried) currently on the market I would rather play than an incomplete, buggy DFO. /shrug
What everyone should do is play Asheron's Call while they wait for this game to fix itself (if it ever does).
If you play on the darktide server you get PvP anywhere (safe areas are your own house and the marketplace). Looting players you killed, dodging, collisions. Essentially you have everything darkfall wanted to be but just with older graphics. The game has been running for 10 years successfully, and one of the reasons is the PvP.
It's nice to finally see a game finally approach PvP the way Asheron's Call did 10 years ago. But seems darkfall was not really prepared for the task. So while you're waiting go to ac.turbine.com and get the free trial and start being killed from the moment you get in the game. At least you'll have 14 free days to PvP to see if darkfall gets it's server working.
I am pretty annoyed with the crash to desktop I have been experiencing. But It is no less game breaking than the issues I had with Blizzard when they launched wow.
I was not able to play on Bleeding Hollow with the rest of my clan unless I sat in queue for two hours. And that was all the time I had available during the week so guess what. When they introduced instanced pvp that you could sit in a queue and wait for (Battlegrounds) after three months enough was enough. I canceled my subscription and let then know why,
Did Blizzard make it through with its mmo queuefest? It sure did. So did daoc which launched with no pvp (because frontiers where disabled), no line of sight(shooting arrow through walls and doors) , no horse travel, houses, midrange mob content. But all people can say is how DF which has a lot of content and features at release is so poorly done?
You guys are not looking at this objectively. These supposed great companies with 10 times the budget didn't do any better.
I am pretty annoyed with the crash to desktop I have been experiencing. But It is no less game breaking than the issues I had with Blizzard when they launched wow.
I was not able to play on Bleeding Hollow with the rest of my clan unless I sat in queue for two hours. And that was all the time I had available during the week so guess what. When they introduced instanced pvp that you could sit in a queue and wait for (Battlegrounds) after three months enough was enough. I canceled my subscription and let then know why, Did Blizzard make it through with its mmo queuefest? It sure did. So did daoc which launched with no pvp (because frontiers where disabled), no line of sight(shooting arrow through walls and doors) , no horse travel, houses, midrange mob content. But all people can say is how DF which has a lot of content and features at release is so poorly done? You guys are not looking at this objectively. These supposed great companies with 10 times the budget didn't do any better.
Trying to save face with this disaster huh? Well guess what they did exactly what most of us expected fell flat on their faces and in a pout took everything down like the immature kids they are.
Oh and I played most of the day the first day of Wow. A few minor problems, but nothing major. Same for DAoC. Sure somethings were in not in game yet. No one really knows yet what features are not in game for Darkfall yet. No one has gotten that far in the content. Can't expect them to be when playing an alpha build.
So you are incorrect trying to compare this to other companies problems, Aventurine has done everyone one better in that department and then acted like spoiled brats about it.
I have played games like SWG, EVE, WoW, Dark and Light, Tabula Rasa, Warhammer some of them in Beta but all of them at Launch i know Launches never go smoothly but i can live with it because every body is in the same boat, No one gains access befor others unless they had CE and got access befor but even that gets screwed sometimes
Oki why do i think this is the Worst Launch in History of MMORPGs?
Dont get me wrong i am not saying Darkfall doesnt look good and look like a game worth spending 42 euro on, but Aventurine is the most unprofessionel team i have ever experienced, never have a game wasted so much of my time sitting infront of the screen hitting F5 and why is that?
They wait 24 hours befor coming with any feat back on whats happening, then when they come with Feat back it stats a time where they wanna open up for more accounts, 6 hours after the time they said they give out a new time over 12 hours after that time their is still no update, i think that is pissing on alot of people.
If the game was in a Box where you bought it online or in a shop you atleast have a chance to get it and when its sold out their is all ways another place that has it or you have to wait a few days befor new Game Boxes arrive, but in this case it should be all that more Convenient with the Digital Game and Account. But its wasted more of my time then any other game in History.
No Game has been avalible since they Launched the game i say thats Bullshit
And their Web page Shows the Community is gonna suffer no updates in over 4 month how hard is it to come with News
Again i aint saying any thing about the game but No one can Defend what they are doing and how Poorly they update news cause 12-24 hours in between and where they run over Dead lines and first give a Heads up 8-24 hours later is just pissing on people.
Man, I'm glad you all are still alive out there, after the initial pre order and all the helpful information I went back to forum to see what was coming next and no one there, just a message saying .....we working on it...wait ....whatever. No information....tried news, no joy. Let's get serious now, it would take one guy ...now im gonna think he will put some effort into it, 30 minutes to give an update on what's going on, when we can order or reason they can't expand until they get these bugs out, enough revenue, whaterver. They instead just keep up all the old info and move on.
While I was waiting for some tidbit of information I went into the mortal online forum....they actually seem to be talking and putting out information. It's a crazy concept, but I liked it.
We are the customer, I understand that they might have problems, but it would be in their advantage to keep us in the loop, because in the end they need us, not the other way around. Now I know the "right at any cost guys don't care, but a lot of us will.
Originally posted by Haplos Man, I'm glad you all are still alive out there, after the initial pre order and all the helpful information I went back to forum to see what was coming next and no one there, just a message saying .....we working on it...wait ....whatever. No information....tried news, no joy. Let's get serious now, it would take one guy ...now im gonna think he will put some effort into it, 30 minutes to give an update on what's going on, when we can order or reason they can't expand until they get these bugs out, enough revenue, whaterver. They instead just keep up all the old info and move on. While I was waiting for some tidbit of information I went into the mortal online forum....they actually seem to be talking and putting out information. It's a crazy concept, but I liked it. We are the customer, I understand that they might have problems, but it would be in their advantage to keep us in the loop, because in the end they need us, not the other way around. Now I know the "right at any cost guys don't care, but a lot of us will.
Apparently you didn't hear the word on the street from the fanboi crowd... YOU need DARKFALL, not the other way around. Tasos has made it clear before you can either play his l33t game or not, he doesn't care. Well now Darkfall is so l33t you can't even play if you wanted to. Only Tasos can play.
Truly laughing out loud at the hype the fanbois and Tasos have built up for this game, only to see it stumble on its first step. Time will tell (shortly) if it completely falls on its face or not.
Went from mildly interested in the game to now shaking my head in amusement. Somebody said it before... the forums for the game are more fun than the idea of the game itself. LOL
I think it's quite interessting that alot of people talk about how they "were interested but not anymore" just because of the bad (distasarous? ) launch. Sure, Blizzard did not have the same issues, but they had issues none the less, and they came because of the same reason: unexpected high demand.
Granted, of all of the MMO's I've played since pre-release ---> releas (which is more then I care to list), this takes the prize in the failing competion. However that doesn't mean I stopped being interested in the game.
So what that the updates are poor? I remember when more then half of the European WoW-servers went down and it took more then 24h to get any information on what happen. And this was well after the game was launched. The servers where down for 3 days and we only recived 1 days compensation.
Not exactly fair to the customers, and this is from a company with alot larger pockets then Aventurine.
Besides, a smooth release doesn't say anything about the finished game in the end (*cough* Tabula Rasa *cough*), which I still look forward too despite the delay.
Am I fanboi? Not really. I'm just saving my torch for when it's really deserved.
Dude! If your trying to get into this game at launch and think its going to be a good experience you're the most retarded person on earh.
You want to get in on this game then shut up and do you're time!
Suck it up sunshine you want to try this game at launch, stop whining about how this company is incompetent.
Iv known how bad this company is at managing anything for 3 years now. If you are only noticing how backyard the's guys are today with your experience with pre order, your IQ must be lower then 90.
Dont come on here and post how awful the launch is. Its the ultimat proof of you're complet stupidness.
Dude! If your trying to get into this game at launch and think its going to be a good experience you're the most retarded person on earh.
You want to get in on this game then shut up and do you're time! Suck it up sunshine you want to try this game at launch, stop whining about how this company is incompetent. Iv known how bad this company is at managing anything for 3 years now. If you are only noticing how backyard the's guys are today with your experience with pre order, your IQ must be lower then 90.
Dont come on here and post how awful the launch is. Its the ultimat proof of you're complet stupidness.
LOL
A for anger
D for spelling and punctuation thought I am giving a bit of a break due to thinking english is not your native tongue.
As a DF betatester and as a mmorpg's addict freak i can say that at least for me this game has the foundations to be the best mmorpg ive never played. It's just a matter of taste.
But being objective i think this is the worst launch ever.
This guys with a marketing advisor could make somenthing great
As a DF betatester and as a mmorpg's addict freak i can say that at least for me this game has the foundations to be the best mmorpg ive never played. It's just a matter of taste. But being objective i think this is the worst launch ever. This guys with a marketing advisor could make somenthing great
I was also a betatester and the game definately was fun to an extent. It had potential, and what they were able to do was definately impressive, how ever it was clear that the game was not ready for release. The game still needed to test certain features and in my opinion they didnt even have a stress test with actual players. (they stress tested the server with NPCs apparently).
This was discussed quite a bit over the beta forums, many agreed that the game should not be launched till Aventurine is able to properly test the game completely, put in all the content, and plan accordingly (website and servers). None of this was done, someone over there rushed it.
It occured to me not long after i stopped playing, that Aventurine is doing a stress test/open beta, but they are charging for it. This is why its not a real release imo. Think about it, this launch is by preorder only and only so many preorders are available. Thats the same as selecting X number of people for a beta. Then when Aventurine feels satisfied, they will open up more servers or license the game out to different territories.
I think this is bad business practice, plain and simple. They had a phenominon on their hands... a huge following, lots of hype due to word of mouth and player advertising (they didnt even have to use a marketing division for that). The level of popularity was up there with some of the biggest AAA titles, which is astounding. When you have this kind of movement, you dont mess it all up with a crappy launch, rather, you strike gold and make a load of money off of it. The demand was high, and they could have easily, with proper business men involved, set up the right kind of deals to ensure the game had an explosive launch like WoW did way back in the day.
They opted for retardation instead. Im not saying the product is bad, but the company just doesnt have a good head on its shoulders...must be from all the windex going to their braincells ( My Big Fat Greek Wedding based Joke).
That said, even if the launch was perfect and done right, the game as it stands would never be one of the best for the sole reason that there were some key design choices that were considered BAD in my opinion. The way the world, race interaction, pvp/pve and skill leveling is set up, it alienates part of the larger audience and promote exploiting. This game will favor the bully in every scenario, as well as the player who doesnt care about lore or anything else. The best games have ORDER (not a faction) built into its rule set. Organized and structured pvp foundations can build a great game, with out them, you just have chaos and weak title. Darkfall is missing the foundation that backs up all its lore. The lore means nothing in darkfall, which makes you wonder why they put it in in the first place.
Games like WoW have a very strong foundation, order and structure is heavily built into every facet of the game. While they may have gone way overboard with that, you can still see that even then how successful it is.
On that note, I hope that most future titles take Darkfalls mob AI to the next level, as it truly was refreshing to see mobs that were difficult because they actually had some form of AI.
"On that note, I hope that most future titles take Darkfalls mob AI to the next level, as it truly was refreshing to see mobs that were difficult because they actually had some form of AI. "
Wait a minute where did you get the idea this game had good AI for the npcs? Go read the boards how everything is being exploited to heck and back because of dumb AI.
About the only thing this game is good for, is how NOT to write a MMO. These arrogant kids are finally finding out how nasty players can be to their game. I kind of feel sorry for them, the beast is loose and they are foundering badly attempting to control it.
You have to wonder if they can get this game under control in time or will it just self destruct, collapse from exploitation. The MMO crowd, particularly those that are attracted to this type of game can be most unkind to the development staff using so called features they can turn to their advantage.
The really sad thing, this game is barely in alpha state now and they are billing people?
"On that note, I hope that most future titles take Darkfalls mob AI to the next level, as it truly was refreshing to see mobs that were difficult because they actually had some form of AI. " Wait a minute where did you get the idea this game had good AI for the npcs? Go read the boards how everything is being exploited to heck and back because of dumb AI. About the only thing this game is good for, is how NOT to write a MMO. These arrogant kids are finally finding out how nasty players can be to their game. I kind of feel sorry for them, the beast is loose and they are foundering badly attempting to control it. You have to wonder if they can get this game under control in time or will it just self destruct, collapse from exploitation. The MMO crowd, particularly those that are attracted to this type of game can be most unkind to the development staff using so called features they can turn to their advantage. The really sad thing, this game is barely in alpha state now and they are billing people?
You havent played the game then have you? The AI is good in the regards that their agro range is realistic, if they see you they will attack, and they will call all their friends to help. They will switch to bow and arrow or magic to keep you at bay, while some charge with melee. They react far better than any other mmorpg mob i have faced. If you read my post you would see how i mention how exploitive the entire game is, not just one area.
"On that note, I hope that most future titles take Darkfalls mob AI to the next level, as it truly was refreshing to see mobs that were difficult because they actually had some form of AI. " Wait a minute where did you get the idea this game had good AI for the npcs? Go read the boards how everything is being exploited to heck and back because of dumb AI. About the only thing this game is good for, is how NOT to write a MMO. These arrogant kids are finally finding out how nasty players can be to their game. I kind of feel sorry for them, the beast is loose and they are foundering badly attempting to control it. You have to wonder if they can get this game under control in time or will it just self destruct, collapse from exploitation. The MMO crowd, particularly those that are attracted to this type of game can be most unkind to the development staff using so called features they can turn to their advantage. The really sad thing, this game is barely in alpha state now and they are billing people?
You havent played the game then have you? The AI is good in the regards that their agro range is realistic, if they see you they will attack, and they will call all their friends to help. They will switch to bow and arrow or magic to keep you at bay, while some charge with melee. They react far better than any other mmorpg mob i have faced. If you read my post you would see how i mention how exploitive the entire game is, not just one area.
Oh, the AI is better because it lets the NPC's get stuck in walls, water, swamp, etc.? Please excuse me while I have a good laugh on your behalf.
While I will grant you, they have attempted to make the AI better, but in the end, it is no better than any other AI if not worse.
As the players rush to take advantage of all the lose ends in the creature AI, you can console yourself that at least they tried to make it better.
With everything Ive seen in beta this game is more ready than any other MMO out there I have tested and has kept my attention more than anything else ...
After reading the statement, it sounds to me like the game is still in the beta stages. Didn't they even stress test this bad boy before launch?
At the risk of repeating myself, wait till the reviews come out over the next few weeks before you buy. A bad launch does not indicate the end of a MMO, but it should give you pause for thought.
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I have no argument with most of what you've posted except the bit about loot thieves. I think they DID think about loot thieves and, staying with their original sandbox, player freedom design, did not put any artificial constraints on looting. I don't have any problem with it. If I have to kill to protect my loot, so be it. The only place it really makes a difference is the newbie areas anyway. Went red? So what? big deal.
Anyway, getting back to the rest of your post, I can't fault any of it and it sounds like you have made a fair choice to wait for a more complete and tested product. Myself, even the incomplete and untested product is funner to me than the game I was most recently playing (WAR). Nor are there any other games (most of which I have at least tried) currently on the market I would rather play than an incomplete, buggy DFO. /shrug
What everyone should do is play Asheron's Call while they wait for this game to fix itself (if it ever does).
If you play on the darktide server you get PvP anywhere (safe areas are your own house and the marketplace). Looting players you killed, dodging, collisions. Essentially you have everything darkfall wanted to be but just with older graphics. The game has been running for 10 years successfully, and one of the reasons is the PvP.
It's nice to finally see a game finally approach PvP the way Asheron's Call did 10 years ago. But seems darkfall was not really prepared for the task. So while you're waiting go to ac.turbine.com and get the free trial and start being killed from the moment you get in the game. At least you'll have 14 free days to PvP to see if darkfall gets it's server working.
been tryin to play. The game has great potential...but right now its just a waste of 42 euro....
hopefully the patch they release tonight will make the game semi playable/fun
I am pretty annoyed with the crash to desktop I have been experiencing. But It is no less game breaking than the issues I had with Blizzard when they launched wow.
I was not able to play on Bleeding Hollow with the rest of my clan unless I sat in queue for two hours. And that was all the time I had available during the week so guess what. When they introduced instanced pvp that you could sit in a queue and wait for (Battlegrounds) after three months enough was enough. I canceled my subscription and let then know why,
Did Blizzard make it through with its mmo queuefest? It sure did. So did daoc which launched with no pvp (because frontiers where disabled), no line of sight(shooting arrow through walls and doors) , no horse travel, houses, midrange mob content. But all people can say is how DF which has a lot of content and features at release is so poorly done?
You guys are not looking at this objectively. These supposed great companies with 10 times the budget didn't do any better.
Trying to save face with this disaster huh? Well guess what they did exactly what most of us expected fell flat on their faces and in a pout took everything down like the immature kids they are.
Oh and I played most of the day the first day of Wow. A few minor problems, but nothing major. Same for DAoC. Sure somethings were in not in game yet. No one really knows yet what features are not in game for Darkfall yet. No one has gotten that far in the content. Can't expect them to be when playing an alpha build.
So you are incorrect trying to compare this to other companies problems, Aventurine has done everyone one better in that department and then acted like spoiled brats about it.
why even bother with this? it's not gona make it go any faster.
wont make a change in the game?
i have been waiting for Full loot PvP for a long time.
if it does not work then oh well wait for the next epic fail.
but my hopes are still up for playing the game < even if it is in another week?
sure delays suck but oh well deal with it.
Which has what relevance to do with the fact that it is being delayed by 1 day?
Just bequiet dude. So much for the best launch ever. *whistles*
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Greetings everyone, I just have a simple question that I couldnt find an answer to.
Please I would appreciate if you saved yourself any flaming.
Anyone knows when players that didnt have account in DF will be able to make an account and buy the game? does anyone knows?
Thank you in advance,
Rassil
Hradi Til Alur !
I have played games like SWG, EVE, WoW, Dark and Light, Tabula Rasa, Warhammer some of them in Beta but all of them at Launch i know Launches never go smoothly but i can live with it because every body is in the same boat, No one gains access befor others unless they had CE and got access befor but even that gets screwed sometimes
Oki why do i think this is the Worst Launch in History of MMORPGs?
Dont get me wrong i am not saying Darkfall doesnt look good and look like a game worth spending 42 euro on, but Aventurine is the most unprofessionel team i have ever experienced, never have a game wasted so much of my time sitting infront of the screen hitting F5 and why is that?
They wait 24 hours befor coming with any feat back on whats happening, then when they come with Feat back it stats a time where they wanna open up for more accounts, 6 hours after the time they said they give out a new time over 12 hours after that time their is still no update, i think that is pissing on alot of people.
If the game was in a Box where you bought it online or in a shop you atleast have a chance to get it and when its sold out their is all ways another place that has it or you have to wait a few days befor new Game Boxes arrive, but in this case it should be all that more Convenient with the Digital Game and Account. But its wasted more of my time then any other game in History.
No Game has been avalible since they Launched the game i say thats Bullshit
And their Web page Shows the Community is gonna suffer no updates in over 4 month how hard is it to come with News
Again i aint saying any thing about the game but No one can Defend what they are doing and how Poorly they update news cause 12-24 hours in between and where they run over Dead lines and first give a Heads up 8-24 hours later is just pissing on people.
No one Knows
Man, I'm glad you all are still alive out there, after the initial pre order and all the helpful information I went back to forum to see what was coming next and no one there, just a message saying .....we working on it...wait ....whatever. No information....tried news, no joy. Let's get serious now, it would take one guy ...now im gonna think he will put some effort into it, 30 minutes to give an update on what's going on, when we can order or reason they can't expand until they get these bugs out, enough revenue, whaterver. They instead just keep up all the old info and move on.
While I was waiting for some tidbit of information I went into the mortal online forum....they actually seem to be talking and putting out information. It's a crazy concept, but I liked it.
We are the customer, I understand that they might have problems, but it would be in their advantage to keep us in the loop, because in the end they need us, not the other way around. Now I know the "right at any cost guys don't care, but a lot of us will.
Apparently you didn't hear the word on the street from the fanboi crowd... YOU need DARKFALL, not the other way around. Tasos has made it clear before you can either play his l33t game or not, he doesn't care. Well now Darkfall is so l33t you can't even play if you wanted to. Only Tasos can play.
Truly laughing out loud at the hype the fanbois and Tasos have built up for this game, only to see it stumble on its first step. Time will tell (shortly) if it completely falls on its face or not.
Went from mildly interested in the game to now shaking my head in amusement. Somebody said it before... the forums for the game are more fun than the idea of the game itself. LOL
Reno
I think it's quite interessting that alot of people talk about how they "were interested but not anymore" just because of the bad (distasarous?
) launch. Sure, Blizzard did not have the same issues, but they had issues none the less, and they came because of the same reason: unexpected high demand.
Granted, of all of the MMO's I've played since pre-release ---> releas (which is more then I care to list), this takes the prize in the failing competion. However that doesn't mean I stopped being interested in the game.
So what that the updates are poor? I remember when more then half of the European WoW-servers went down and it took more then 24h to get any information on what happen. And this was well after the game was launched. The servers where down for 3 days and we only recived 1 days compensation.
Not exactly fair to the customers, and this is from a company with alot larger pockets then Aventurine.
Besides, a smooth release doesn't say anything about the finished game in the end (*cough* Tabula Rasa *cough*), which I still look forward too despite the delay.
Am I fanboi? Not really. I'm just saving my torch for when it's really deserved.
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Dude! If your trying to get into this game at launch and think its going to be a good experience you're the most retarded person on earh.
You want to get in on this game then shut up and do you're time!
Suck it up sunshine you want to try this game at launch, stop whining about how this company is incompetent.
Iv known how bad this company is at managing anything for 3 years now. If you are only noticing how backyard the's guys are today with your experience with pre order, your IQ must be lower then 90.
Dont come on here and post how awful the launch is. Its the ultimat proof of you're complet stupidness.
LOL
A for anger
D for spelling and punctuation thought I am giving a bit of a break due to thinking english is not your native tongue.
As a DF betatester and as a mmorpg's addict freak i can say that at least for me this game has the foundations to be the best mmorpg ive never played. It's just a matter of taste.
But being objective i think this is the worst launch ever.
This guys with a marketing advisor could make somenthing great
I was also a betatester and the game definately was fun to an extent. It had potential, and what they were able to do was definately impressive, how ever it was clear that the game was not ready for release. The game still needed to test certain features and in my opinion they didnt even have a stress test with actual players. (they stress tested the server with NPCs apparently).
This was discussed quite a bit over the beta forums, many agreed that the game should not be launched till Aventurine is able to properly test the game completely, put in all the content, and plan accordingly (website and servers). None of this was done, someone over there rushed it.
It occured to me not long after i stopped playing, that Aventurine is doing a stress test/open beta, but they are charging for it. This is why its not a real release imo. Think about it, this launch is by preorder only and only so many preorders are available. Thats the same as selecting X number of people for a beta. Then when Aventurine feels satisfied, they will open up more servers or license the game out to different territories.
I think this is bad business practice, plain and simple. They had a phenominon on their hands... a huge following, lots of hype due to word of mouth and player advertising (they didnt even have to use a marketing division for that). The level of popularity was up there with some of the biggest AAA titles, which is astounding. When you have this kind of movement, you dont mess it all up with a crappy launch, rather, you strike gold and make a load of money off of it. The demand was high, and they could have easily, with proper business men involved, set up the right kind of deals to ensure the game had an explosive launch like WoW did way back in the day.
They opted for retardation instead. Im not saying the product is bad, but the company just doesnt have a good head on its shoulders...must be from all the windex going to their braincells ( My Big Fat Greek Wedding based Joke).
That said, even if the launch was perfect and done right, the game as it stands would never be one of the best for the sole reason that there were some key design choices that were considered BAD in my opinion. The way the world, race interaction, pvp/pve and skill leveling is set up, it alienates part of the larger audience and promote exploiting. This game will favor the bully in every scenario, as well as the player who doesnt care about lore or anything else. The best games have ORDER (not a faction) built into its rule set. Organized and structured pvp foundations can build a great game, with out them, you just have chaos and weak title. Darkfall is missing the foundation that backs up all its lore. The lore means nothing in darkfall, which makes you wonder why they put it in in the first place.
Games like WoW have a very strong foundation, order and structure is heavily built into every facet of the game. While they may have gone way overboard with that, you can still see that even then how successful it is.
On that note, I hope that most future titles take Darkfalls mob AI to the next level, as it truly was refreshing to see mobs that were difficult because they actually had some form of AI.
"On that note, I hope that most future titles take Darkfalls mob AI to the next level, as it truly was refreshing to see mobs that were difficult because they actually had some form of AI. "
Wait a minute where did you get the idea this game had good AI for the npcs? Go read the boards how everything is being exploited to heck and back because of dumb AI.
About the only thing this game is good for, is how NOT to write a MMO. These arrogant kids are finally finding out how nasty players can be to their game. I kind of feel sorry for them, the beast is loose and they are foundering badly attempting to control it.
You have to wonder if they can get this game under control in time or will it just self destruct, collapse from exploitation. The MMO crowd, particularly those that are attracted to this type of game can be most unkind to the development staff using so called features they can turn to their advantage.
The really sad thing, this game is barely in alpha state now and they are billing people?
You havent played the game then have you? The AI is good in the regards that their agro range is realistic, if they see you they will attack, and they will call all their friends to help. They will switch to bow and arrow or magic to keep you at bay, while some charge with melee. They react far better than any other mmorpg mob i have faced. If you read my post you would see how i mention how exploitive the entire game is, not just one area.
You havent played the game then have you? The AI is good in the regards that their agro range is realistic, if they see you they will attack, and they will call all their friends to help. They will switch to bow and arrow or magic to keep you at bay, while some charge with melee. They react far better than any other mmorpg mob i have faced. If you read my post you would see how i mention how exploitive the entire game is, not just one area.
Oh, the AI is better because it lets the NPC's get stuck in walls, water, swamp, etc.? Please excuse me while I have a good laugh on your behalf.
While I will grant you, they have attempted to make the AI better, but in the end, it is no better than any other AI if not worse.
As the players rush to take advantage of all the lose ends in the creature AI, you can console yourself that at least they tried to make it better.
In Soviet Russia, darkfall buys YOU!
After reading the statement, it sounds to me like the game is still in the beta stages. Didn't they even stress test this bad boy before launch?
/waits for a free trial
I will not pay to play a beta.
At the risk of repeating myself, wait till the reviews come out over the next few weeks before you buy. A bad launch does not indicate the end of a MMO, but it should give you pause for thought.