I have played almost every MMO to come out (beta tested most of them as well) and this is one of the worst launches as of yet (AO taking the cake on that one) At least most MMOs that launch let you play on the date specified as the release date. Never had to futz with Regedit to get a patcher working correctly before. Never had to fight with billing either. Games played at launch: UO, EQ, AO, AC, DAoC, AA, CoH, SWG, WoW, WAR, AoC, VG, EQ2, AC2. Beta: UO, EQ, AO, AC, AC2, DAoC, AA, CoH, Wish, Horizon, SWG, WAR, WoW, VG, EQ2, MXO, PlanetSide, TR, AoC, TCoS, L2, etc.
With that list of games played, it's pretty clear nothing keeps your attention? So in essence, can anything please you? Sorry, had to say it, that list is way to long.
Actually UO and AO kept my attention for a long time as did old EQ. I have this thing where I like to beta test games and various other pieces of software (and I somehow have a knack for getting into the early stages of beta). UO I played from beta straight through 99, even while I was in the EQ beta. While I was in EQ I tested a couple of other games and discovered AO which I played on and off the first few months while still playing EQ. Unlike most people I dont need to be in just 1 game or have that 1 game become my life. Some days you want Pizza, other days you want steak.
Most of the games I played were with my guild, so we would have maybe 2 or 3 games going at one given time, and we would have events going for each game. I think the only reason I spent more time in AO was because there was always something to do and the people there were awesome. Most newer games wont let some members of my guild play because they have Euro servers that are exclusive, and without them the games just are not as fun.
Also having so many MMOs going at one time helped me quit smoking
Now I am down to 1 game at a time because I have a 3 year old who takes up most, if not all my time.
There are 3 types of people in the world. 1.) Those who make things happen 2.) Those who watch things happen 3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
Games played at launch: UO, EQ, AO, AC, DAoC, AA, CoH, SWG, WoW, WAR, AoC, VG, EQ2, AC2. Beta: UO, EQ, AO, AC, AC2, DAoC, AA, CoH, Wish, Horizon, SWG, WAR, WoW, VG, EQ2, MXO, PlanetSide, TR, AoC, TCoS, L2, etc.
With that list of games played, it's pretty clear nothing keeps your attention. So in essence, can anything please you? Sorry, had to say it, that list is way to long.
How so?
It's not really too cumbersome on one's attention span to play one or two MMO's and every now and then try / beta another MMO. Especially not if you look at the timespan this list was produced over. The UO beta was OVER NINE THOUSAND years ago after all
Games played at launch: UO, EQ, AO, AC, DAoC, AA, CoH, SWG, WoW, WAR, AoC, VG, EQ2, AC2. Beta: UO, EQ, AO, AC, AC2, DAoC, AA, CoH, Wish, Horizon, SWG, WAR, WoW, VG, EQ2, MXO, PlanetSide, TR, AoC, TCoS, L2, etc.
With that list of games played, it's pretty clear nothing keeps your attention. So in essence, can anything please you? Sorry, had to say it, that list is way to long.
How so?
It's not really too cumbersome on one's attention span to play one or two MMO's and every now and then try / beta another MMO. Especially not if you look at the timespan this list was produced over. The UO beta was OVER NINE THOUSAND years ago after all
Wtf is wrong with you people. "QQ I haven't found any mobs it is too confusing wahhhh" Jesus christ it is just barely up. Every other MMO had servers crash at launch, that shit happens. Stop crying about everything. You obviously did try talking to NPCs, a quest, and I bet even fucking exploring. Have you ever played a video game like this before? The server is going to crash, everything is going to be hectic for a little while. If you are upset already you are really going to be pissed when you get some good gear and somebody rapes you for it. This is not Carebear Online. If you have never played a MUD stfu and go play something else. I loved the only 15-20 minutes of gameplay I got. And stop crying because you didn't get a pre-order, I stayed up for 22 hours to make sure I got one. It is called dedication. People who really deserved the game got it. Less QQ more Pew Pew.
Even tho your right on some points your topic is as stupid as most topics here your nothing but a evil troll.
People who releay deserves it got in wtf?, man you even worse then most haters trolls and all who waste forum space ill bet your from US right?(you prolly lie about that to).
Im almost 100% convinced that your type who won't last a month playing darkfall, you even can't survive these forums, you whine and cry like baby what you rpolly also do ingame lol.
Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009..... In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.
Games played at launch: UO, EQ, AO, AC, DAoC, AA, CoH, SWG, WoW, WAR, AoC, VG, EQ2, AC2. Beta: UO, EQ, AO, AC, AC2, DAoC, AA, CoH, Wish, Horizon, SWG, WAR, WoW, VG, EQ2, MXO, PlanetSide, TR, AoC, TCoS, L2, etc.
With that list of games played, it's pretty clear nothing keeps your attention. So in essence, can anything please you? Sorry, had to say it, that list is way to long.
How so?
It's not really too cumbersome on one's attention span to play one or two MMO's and every now and then try / beta another MMO. Especially not if you look at the timespan this list was produced over. The UO beta was OVER NINE THOUSAND years ago after all
Ok, maybe slightly less.
Only 3k years before the universe was created.
Thanks for making me feel even older guys, as if the graying temples werent enough...
There are 3 types of people in the world. 1.) Those who make things happen 2.) Those who watch things happen 3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
No, I'm simply saying a game with such a limited release should be able to stay up and not have this many problems. I have personally seen people at their home in china or wherever the **** they do this from run a private server (programmed by no name idiots) that can host more players then this game. Its sad.
Right! There is a big difference in running a simple server to run one, and running a server that a developer can actually use to hotfix / change / support / protect / develop on / log / database.
I think that you have no idea what actually goes into a production server, this isn't a little CS blade that you rent from some local company or a 16 gig desktop L2 server.
You dumb asses haven't realized yet you just paid 50 bucks to stress test their server. I find this pretty hilarious. I wonder how long it will take you to figure this out if ever. Never underestimate human stupidity.
Considering people actually willing to pay money for beta accounts on ebay this doesn't really surprise me though.
You can fool yourself into thinking the company just didn't know they would have such demand that they only opened up one server
Or you can see the reality for what it is. They only let 10.000 people in because they needed gullible testers and their money to continue finishing their project.
Games played at launch: UO, EQ, AO, AC, DAoC, AA, CoH, SWG, WoW, WAR, AoC, VG, EQ2, AC2. Beta: UO, EQ, AO, AC, AC2, DAoC, AA, CoH, Wish, Horizon, SWG, WAR, WoW, VG, EQ2, MXO, PlanetSide, TR, AoC, TCoS, L2, etc.
With that list of games played, it's pretty clear nothing keeps your attention. So in essence, can anything please you? Sorry, had to say it, that list is way to long.
How so?
It's not really too cumbersome on one's attention span to play one or two MMO's and every now and then try / beta another MMO. Especially not if you look at the timespan this list was produced over. The UO beta was OVER NINE THOUSAND years ago after all
Ok, maybe slightly less.
It's 14 games played at launch (not including the betas), all MMO's of some sort. And you don't see some problem there? You do know what an attention span is right? If so, nevermind then, keep playing, heh.
Games played at launch: UO, EQ, AO, AC, DAoC, AA, CoH, SWG, WoW, WAR, AoC, VG, EQ2, AC2. Beta: UO, EQ, AO, AC, AC2, DAoC, AA, CoH, Wish, Horizon, SWG, WAR, WoW, VG, EQ2, MXO, PlanetSide, TR, AoC, TCoS, L2, etc.
With that list of games played, it's pretty clear nothing keeps your attention. So in essence, can anything please you? Sorry, had to say it, that list is way to long.
How so?
It's not really too cumbersome on one's attention span to play one or two MMO's and every now and then try / beta another MMO. Especially not if you look at the timespan this list was produced over. The UO beta was OVER NINE THOUSAND years ago after all
Ok, maybe slightly less.
Only 3k years before the universe was created.
Thanks for making me feel even older guys, as if the graying temples werent enough...
Temples? Pfft, my grey has migrated much further south.
You dumb asses haven't realized yet you just paid 50 bucks to stress test their server. I find this pretty hilarious. i wonder how long it will take you to figure this out if ever. Never underestimate human stupidity. Considering people actually willing to pay money for beta accounts on ebay this doesn't really surprise me though.
You can fool yourself into thinking the company just didn't know they would have such demand that they only opened up one server
Or you can see the reality for what it is. they only let 10.000 people in because they needed gullible testers and their money to continue finishing their project.
How very true. Except we are getting free game time for stress testing the server. So if the game time lost = game time given as peace offering.....win?
No, I'm simply saying a game with such a limited release should be able to stay up and not have this many problems. I have personally seen people at their home in china or wherever the **** they do this from run a private server (programmed by no name idiots) that can host more players then this game. Its sad.
Right! There is a big difference in running a simple server to run one, and running a server that a developer can actually use to hotfix / change / support / protect / develop on / log / database.
I think that you have no idea what actually goes into a production server, this isn't a little CS blade that you rent from some local company or a 16 gig desktop L2 server.
You are aware tons of L2 private servers use ACTUAL NCSoft SQL server files correct? They were either stolen or taken from the company some other way. Seriously, you have no clue what you're talking about. Please quit now...while you're ahe....oh **** it, you aren't ahead of anything.
Wtf is wrong with you people. "QQ I haven't found any mobs it is too confusing wahhhh" Jesus christ it is just barely up. Every other MMO had servers crash at launch, that shit happens. Stop crying about everything. You obviously did try talking to NPCs, a quest, and I bet even fucking exploring. Have you ever played a video game like this before? The server is going to crash, everything is going to be hectic for a little while. If you are upset already you are really going to be pissed when you get some good gear and somebody rapes you for it. This is not Carebear Online. If you have never played a MUD stfu and go play something else. I loved the only 15-20 minutes of gameplay I got. And stop crying because you didn't get a pre-order, I stayed up for 22 hours to make sure I got one. It is called dedication. People who really deserved the game got it. Less QQ more Pew Pew.
Even tho your right on some points your topic is as stupid as most topics here your nothing but a evil troll.
People who releay deserves it got in wtf?, man you even worse then most haters trolls and all who waste forum space ill bet your from US right?(you prolly lie about that to).
Im almost 100% convinced that your type who won't last a month playing darkfall, you even can't survive these forums, you whine and cry like baby what you rpolly also do ingame lol.
He won't survive in the game for a month, not due to him being PK'd...the servers won't stay up long enough for him to get PK'd.
Games played at launch: UO, EQ, AO, AC, DAoC, AA, CoH, SWG, WoW, WAR, AoC, VG, EQ2, AC2. Beta: UO, EQ, AO, AC, AC2, DAoC, AA, CoH, Wish, Horizon, SWG, WAR, WoW, VG, EQ2, MXO, PlanetSide, TR, AoC, TCoS, L2, etc.
With that list of games played, it's pretty clear nothing keeps your attention. So in essence, can anything please you? Sorry, had to say it, that list is way to long.
How so?
It's not really too cumbersome on one's attention span to play one or two MMO's and every now and then try / beta another MMO. Especially not if you look at the timespan this list was produced over. The UO beta was OVER NINE THOUSAND years ago after all
Ok, maybe slightly less.
It's 14 games played at launch (not including the betas), all MMO's of some sort. And you don't see some problem there? You do know what an attention span is right? If so, nevermind then, keep playing, heh.
Thats also over 13 years. One does not have to play just 1 game at a time. As for attention span, I can easily read a 500+ page novel in under 6 hours. Its all about focus, not attention span.
There are 3 types of people in the world. 1.) Those who make things happen 2.) Those who watch things happen 3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
You dumb asses haven't realized yet you just paid 50 bucks to stress test their server. I find this pretty hilarious. i wonder how long it will take you to figure this out if ever. Never underestimate human stupidity. Considering people actually willing to pay money for beta accounts on ebay this doesn't really surprise me though.
You can fool yourself into thinking the company just didn't know they would have such demand that they only opened up one server
Or you can see the reality for what it is. they only let 10.000 people in because they needed gullible testers and their money to continue finishing their project.
How very true. Except we are getting free game time for stress testing the server. So if the game time lost = game time given as peace offering.....win?
Are you referring to your free month or the promise of extra days of free sub?
No, I'm simply saying a game with such a limited release should be able to stay up and not have this many problems. I have personally seen people at their home in china or wherever the **** they do this from run a private server (programmed by no name idiots) that can host more players then this game. Its sad.
Right! There is a big difference in running a simple server to run one, and running a server that a developer can actually use to hotfix / change / support / protect / develop on / log / database.
I think that you have no idea what actually goes into a production server, this isn't a little CS blade that you rent from some local company or a 16 gig desktop L2 server.
They have had 7-8 years to figure it all out for christ sake!
They have been bragging for years on how they have stresstested their game with so called stresstest bots (wich were in their opinion SUPERIOR to real player tests) and how it was peanuts to allow 10k simultanious users on a single server! And how this game was going to WTFPAWN all the other MMO's.
And now the real launch has come and the server cannot even handle a handful of players before going down again and again.
Games played at launch: UO, EQ, AO, AC, DAoC, AA, CoH, SWG, WoW, WAR, AoC, VG, EQ2, AC2. Beta: UO, EQ, AO, AC, AC2, DAoC, AA, CoH, Wish, Horizon, SWG, WAR, WoW, VG, EQ2, MXO, PlanetSide, TR, AoC, TCoS, L2, etc.
With that list of games played, it's pretty clear nothing keeps your attention. So in essence, can anything please you? Sorry, had to say it, that list is way to long.
How so?
It's not really too cumbersome on one's attention span to play one or two MMO's and every now and then try / beta another MMO. Especially not if you look at the timespan this list was produced over. The UO beta was OVER NINE THOUSAND years ago after all
Ok, maybe slightly less.
Its obvious you like to play mmo's but for very short time or some at same time.
Ive played AC-Darktide 1.5year from launch-AC2-Darktide 2years-LINEGAE2 3years.
WoW 6 months crap mmo
AoC 2 months crap mmo
And several free ones short like few days to few weeks.
Beta tested linegae2-WoW-Tcos-Darkfall.
And some open beta,s
Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009..... In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.
I am referring to the free 2-3 days. It isn't really paying to stress test since, technically, we are not paying for the first (or last) couple of days. Just a perspective.
No, I'm simply saying a game with such a limited release should be able to stay up and not have this many problems. I have personally seen people at their home in china or wherever the **** they do this from run a private server (programmed by no name idiots) that can host more players then this game. Its sad.
Right! There is a big difference in running a simple server to run one, and running a server that a developer can actually use to hotfix / change / support / protect / develop on / log / database.
I think that you have no idea what actually goes into a production server, this isn't a little CS blade that you rent from some local company or a 16 gig desktop L2 server.
You are aware tons of L2 private servers use ACTUAL NCSoft SQL server files correct? They were either stolen or taken from the company some other way. Seriously, you have no clue what you're talking about. Please quit now...while you're ahe....oh **** it, you aren't ahead of anything.
Again, the same argument applies. Since you have no development experience, you have no fucking clue. SQL is super high level coding, you're not hotfixing a game using SQL. You are not pulling thousands of player logs off the server using that, nor are you actually running a real server.
Now let me teach you how a game server works {mod edit}. The server is usually seperated into several blades. What gets all these blades running is SQL yes, but SQL just executes what it needs to to get the actual game running, you would still need to use SQL if you wanted to launch a server from the desktop, so that's moot.
In any case usually servers are seperated into the different game worlds which are different blades, then there's creature code (This is loot tables, and movement caluclations) then there is a server database, an item database, a portal blade that handles in and out traffic, and then the actual users or players and their movement. Some MMOs even have a blade dedicated to their trade/auction systems.
Now you can run all of these on a desktop server and support a few thousand players yes, however the server works differently. Like mob movement calculations aren't updated every loop unless a player is near by. Same thing with items and pricing, things aren't updated or communicated with players at all times, everything is slowed down or instanced off until a player is near by and needs ALL the information.
AV is running a production server that is updating every game loop keeping logs, keeping admins, keeping IT guys, loading everything at once. Loops are around every .2 seconds(some games are faster some are slower).
Edit:
I will give SQL a little more credit, it's responsible for communication between all the different game databases and information streams, and can be used to transfer log information over to another output server or device, again though, you would sill need that to run a desktop L2 server.
you think this is going to get better in 2-3 days? Hate to break it to you but this looks like countless failed MMO launches. They're simply not going to be able to handle the estimated 40k players that preordered. They'll get mad, rage around, scare everyone off, and Aventurine will go bankrupt shortly after.
That is UNLESS they can fix the stability problems quickly. Averturine has the advantage of working on this damn project for 10 years, so I'm sure the coders are very experienced, and they very well might be able to pull some epic code tweaks out of their arses.
That said, they need to get this game stable VERY soon or we're all going to learn a new definition of the word "hater" and "troll".
Games played at launch: UO, EQ, AO, AC, DAoC, AA, CoH, SWG, WoW, WAR, AoC, VG, EQ2, AC2. Beta: UO, EQ, AO, AC, AC2, DAoC, AA, CoH, Wish, Horizon, SWG, WAR, WoW, VG, EQ2, MXO, PlanetSide, TR, AoC, TCoS, L2, etc.
With that list of games played, it's pretty clear nothing keeps your attention. So in essence, can anything please you? Sorry, had to say it, that list is way to long.
How so?
It's not really too cumbersome on one's attention span to play one or two MMO's and every now and then try / beta another MMO. Especially not if you look at the timespan this list was produced over. The UO beta was OVER NINE THOUSAND years ago after all
Ok, maybe slightly less.
Its obvious you like to play mmo's but for very short time or some at same time.
Ive played AC-Darktide 1.5year from launch-AC2-Darktide 2years-LINEGAE2 3years.
WoW 6 months crap mmo
AoC 2 months crap mmo
And several free ones short like few days to few weeks.
Beta tested linegae2-WoW-Tcos-Darkfall.
And some open beta,s
AoC I made it to the 1 month mark after release, and only played it because a friend of mine forced me to (even though I told him it sucked while I was in beta) but at least he paid for it :P
AC2 A few of us got free copies of the game when it released, never really gave that game a fair chance but was kinda glad I didnt. Played that for about 2 months on and off with some RL friends and only when they had the time to play.
EQ2 I played with my GF at the time and wasnt allowed to play when she wasnt for fear of castration...
So with certain games my play time was limited due to restrictions by friends who didnt want me to pass them in levels/gameplay. Most of the time I would play 'my' mmo because they were not online and it kept me busy. Beta tests happened in between/during the time, but I never play to heavily into betas (maybe an hour here or there) due to not wanting to spoil the game if I decide to try it at release.
There are 3 types of people in the world. 1.) Those who make things happen 2.) Those who watch things happen 3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
Games played at launch: UO, EQ, AO, AC, DAoC, AA, CoH, SWG, WoW, WAR, AoC, VG, EQ2, AC2. Beta: UO, EQ, AO, AC, AC2, DAoC, AA, CoH, Wish, Horizon, SWG, WAR, WoW, VG, EQ2, MXO, PlanetSide, TR, AoC, TCoS, L2, etc.
With that list of games played, it's pretty clear nothing keeps your attention. So in essence, can anything please you? Sorry, had to say it, that list is way to long.
How so?
It's not really too cumbersome on one's attention span to play one or two MMO's and every now and then try / beta another MMO. Especially not if you look at the timespan this list was produced over. The UO beta was OVER NINE THOUSAND years ago after all
Ok, maybe slightly less.
Its obvious you like to play mmo's but for very short time or some at same time.
Ive played AC-Darktide 1.5year from launch-AC2-Darktide 2years-LINEGAE2 3years.
WoW 6 months crap mmo
AoC 2 months crap mmo
And several free ones short like few days to few weeks.
Beta tested linegae2-WoW-Tcos-Darkfall.
And some open beta,s
Oh hai thar Evasia!
<- Bartz represent, and TCoS was a crap game aswell. lulz.
No, I'm simply saying a game with such a limited release should be able to stay up and not have this many problems. I have personally seen people at their home in china or wherever the **** they do this from run a private server (programmed by no name idiots) that can host more players then this game. Its sad.
Right! There is a big difference in running a simple server to run one, and running a server that a developer can actually use to hotfix / change / support / protect / develop on / log / database.
I think that you have no idea what actually goes into a production server, this isn't a little CS blade that you rent from some local company or a 16 gig desktop L2 server.
You are aware tons of L2 private servers use ACTUAL NCSoft SQL server files correct? They were either stolen or taken from the company some other way. Seriously, you have no clue what you're talking about. Please quit now...while you're ahe....oh **** it, you aren't ahead of anything.
Again, the same argument applies. Since you have no development experience, you have no fucking clue. SQL is super high level coding, you're not hotfixing a game using SQL. You are not pulling thousands of player logs off the server using that, nor are you actually running a real server.
Now let me teach you how a game server works {mod edit}. The server is usually seperated into several blades. What gets all these blades running is SQL yes, but SQL just executes what it needs to to get the actual game running, you would still need to use SQL if you wanted to launch a server from the desktop, so that's moot.
In any case usually servers are seperated into the different game worlds which are different blades, then there's creature code (This is loot tables, and movement caluclations) then there is a server database, an item database, a portal blade that handles in and out traffic, and then the actual users or players and their movement. Some MMOs even have a blade dedicated to their trade/auction systems.
Now you can run all of these on a desktop server and support a few thousand players yes, however the server works differently. Like mob movement calculations aren't updated every loop unless a player is near by. Same thing with items and pricing, things aren't updated or communicated with players at all times, everything is slowed down or instanced off until a player is near by and needs ALL the information.
AV is running a production server that is updating every game loop keeping logs, keeping admins, keeping IT guys, loading everything at once. Loops are around every .2 seconds(some games are faster some are slower).
Edit:
I will give SQL a little more credit, it's responsible for communication between all the different game databases and information streams, and can be used to transfer log information over to another output server or device, again though, you would sill need that to run a desktop L2 server.
Are you not listening, or simply ignorning? I am telling you, these people have got the ACTUAL server files used by NCSoft at one time or another for the game. It runs everything as intended, and plently have also been the target of LAWSUITS by the actual company for stealing their software and basically stealing their customers.
RF Online is another game that has official server files out there for it, there is nothing different from those files compared to the ones that were on their official server at one point or another.
You can throw numbers, graphs, charts at me. It doesn' change the fact certain people are using OFFICIAL software intended only for the dev's use on their own servers.
So stop trying to act like you need Jesus to come down and bless your server rack for the thing to run correctly.
Games played at launch: UO, EQ, AO, AC, DAoC, AA, CoH, SWG, WoW, WAR, AoC, VG, EQ2, AC2. Beta: UO, EQ, AO, AC, AC2, DAoC, AA, CoH, Wish, Horizon, SWG, WAR, WoW, VG, EQ2, MXO, PlanetSide, TR, AoC, TCoS, L2, etc.
With that list of games played, it's pretty clear nothing keeps your attention. So in essence, can anything please you? Sorry, had to say it, that list is way to long.
How so?
It's not really too cumbersome on one's attention span to play one or two MMO's and every now and then try / beta another MMO. Especially not if you look at the timespan this list was produced over. The UO beta was OVER NINE THOUSAND years ago after all
Ok, maybe slightly less.
Its obvious you like to play mmo's but for very short time or some at same time.
Ive played AC-Darktide 1.5year from launch-AC2-Darktide 2years-LINEGAE2 3years.
WoW 6 months crap mmo
AoC 2 months crap mmo
And several free ones short like few days to few weeks.
Beta tested linegae2-WoW-Tcos-Darkfall.
And some open beta,s
Oh hai thar Evasia!
<- Bartz represent, and TCoS was a crap game aswell. lulz.
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With that list of games played, it's pretty clear nothing keeps your attention? So in essence, can anything please you? Sorry, had to say it, that list is way to long.
Actually UO and AO kept my attention for a long time as did old EQ. I have this thing where I like to beta test games and various other pieces of software (and I somehow have a knack for getting into the early stages of beta). UO I played from beta straight through 99, even while I was in the EQ beta. While I was in EQ I tested a couple of other games and discovered AO which I played on and off the first few months while still playing EQ. Unlike most people I dont need to be in just 1 game or have that 1 game become my life. Some days you want Pizza, other days you want steak.
Most of the games I played were with my guild, so we would have maybe 2 or 3 games going at one given time, and we would have events going for each game. I think the only reason I spent more time in AO was because there was always something to do and the people there were awesome. Most newer games wont let some members of my guild play because they have Euro servers that are exclusive, and without them the games just are not as fun.
Also having so many MMOs going at one time helped me quit smoking
Now I am down to 1 game at a time because I have a 3 year old who takes up most, if not all my time.
There are 3 types of people in the world.
1.) Those who make things happen
2.) Those who watch things happen
3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
With that list of games played, it's pretty clear nothing keeps your attention. So in essence, can anything please you? Sorry, had to say it, that list is way to long.
How so?
It's not really too cumbersome on one's attention span to play one or two MMO's and every now and then try / beta another MMO. Especially not if you look at the timespan this list was produced over. The UO beta was OVER NINE THOUSAND years ago after all
Ok, maybe slightly less.
Only 3k years before the universe was created.
With that list of games played, it's pretty clear nothing keeps your attention. So in essence, can anything please you? Sorry, had to say it, that list is way to long.
How so?
It's not really too cumbersome on one's attention span to play one or two MMO's and every now and then try / beta another MMO. Especially not if you look at the timespan this list was produced over. The UO beta was OVER NINE THOUSAND years ago after all
Ok, maybe slightly less.
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Even tho your right on some points your topic is as stupid as most topics here your nothing but a evil troll.
People who releay deserves it got in wtf?, man you even worse then most haters trolls and all who waste forum space ill bet your from US right?(you prolly lie about that to).
Im almost 100% convinced that your type who won't last a month playing darkfall, you even can't survive these forums, you whine and cry like baby what you rpolly also do ingame lol.
Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009.....
In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.
With that list of games played, it's pretty clear nothing keeps your attention. So in essence, can anything please you? Sorry, had to say it, that list is way to long.
How so?
It's not really too cumbersome on one's attention span to play one or two MMO's and every now and then try / beta another MMO. Especially not if you look at the timespan this list was produced over. The UO beta was OVER NINE THOUSAND years ago after all
Ok, maybe slightly less.
Only 3k years before the universe was created.
Thanks for making me feel even older guys, as if the graying temples werent enough...
There are 3 types of people in the world.
1.) Those who make things happen
2.) Those who watch things happen
3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
No, I set a trap for trolls. Now I am smoking a bowl and watching this cadre of rage I have created
Right! There is a big difference in running a simple server to run one, and running a server that a developer can actually use to hotfix / change / support / protect / develop on / log / database.
I think that you have no idea what actually goes into a production server, this isn't a little CS blade that you rent from some local company or a 16 gig desktop L2 server.
You dumb asses haven't realized yet you just paid 50 bucks to stress test their server. I find this pretty hilarious. I wonder how long it will take you to figure this out if ever. Never underestimate human stupidity.
Considering people actually willing to pay money for beta accounts on ebay this doesn't really surprise me though.
You can fool yourself into thinking the company just didn't know they would have such demand that they only opened up one server
Or you can see the reality for what it is. They only let 10.000 people in because they needed gullible testers and their money to continue finishing their project.
With that list of games played, it's pretty clear nothing keeps your attention. So in essence, can anything please you? Sorry, had to say it, that list is way to long.
How so?
It's not really too cumbersome on one's attention span to play one or two MMO's and every now and then try / beta another MMO. Especially not if you look at the timespan this list was produced over. The UO beta was OVER NINE THOUSAND years ago after all
Ok, maybe slightly less.
It's 14 games played at launch (not including the betas), all MMO's of some sort. And you don't see some problem there? You do know what an attention span is right? If so, nevermind then, keep playing, heh.
With that list of games played, it's pretty clear nothing keeps your attention. So in essence, can anything please you? Sorry, had to say it, that list is way to long.
How so?
It's not really too cumbersome on one's attention span to play one or two MMO's and every now and then try / beta another MMO. Especially not if you look at the timespan this list was produced over. The UO beta was OVER NINE THOUSAND years ago after all
Ok, maybe slightly less.
Only 3k years before the universe was created.
Thanks for making me feel even older guys, as if the graying temples werent enough...
Temples? Pfft, my grey has migrated much further south.
How very true. Except we are getting free game time for stress testing the server. So if the game time lost = game time given as peace offering.....win?
Right! There is a big difference in running a simple server to run one, and running a server that a developer can actually use to hotfix / change / support / protect / develop on / log / database.
I think that you have no idea what actually goes into a production server, this isn't a little CS blade that you rent from some local company or a 16 gig desktop L2 server.
You are aware tons of L2 private servers use ACTUAL NCSoft SQL server files correct? They were either stolen or taken from the company some other way. Seriously, you have no clue what you're talking about. Please quit now...while you're ahe....oh **** it, you aren't ahead of anything.
Even tho your right on some points your topic is as stupid as most topics here your nothing but a evil troll.
People who releay deserves it got in wtf?, man you even worse then most haters trolls and all who waste forum space ill bet your from US right?(you prolly lie about that to).
Im almost 100% convinced that your type who won't last a month playing darkfall, you even can't survive these forums, you whine and cry like baby what you rpolly also do ingame lol.
He won't survive in the game for a month, not due to him being PK'd...the servers won't stay up long enough for him to get PK'd.
With that list of games played, it's pretty clear nothing keeps your attention. So in essence, can anything please you? Sorry, had to say it, that list is way to long.
How so?
It's not really too cumbersome on one's attention span to play one or two MMO's and every now and then try / beta another MMO. Especially not if you look at the timespan this list was produced over. The UO beta was OVER NINE THOUSAND years ago after all
Ok, maybe slightly less.
It's 14 games played at launch (not including the betas), all MMO's of some sort. And you don't see some problem there? You do know what an attention span is right? If so, nevermind then, keep playing, heh.
Thats also over 13 years. One does not have to play just 1 game at a time. As for attention span, I can easily read a 500+ page novel in under 6 hours. Its all about focus, not attention span.
Edit: @Revel: TMI sir... TMI....
There are 3 types of people in the world.
1.) Those who make things happen
2.) Those who watch things happen
3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
How very true. Except we are getting free game time for stress testing the server. So if the game time lost = game time given as peace offering.....win?
Are you referring to your free month or the promise of extra days of free sub?
There have been some really buggy, badly organised releases, but Darkfall's realease so far is challenging Vanguard's title for crapiest release.
In fact, DF isn't really released yet. It is currently a closed beta which you have to pay for.
Vanguard does not hold that title,DnL does.
www.darkandlight.com/en/
Jah Rasta For I.
The Wicked Shall Fall..
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Right! There is a big difference in running a simple server to run one, and running a server that a developer can actually use to hotfix / change / support / protect / develop on / log / database.
I think that you have no idea what actually goes into a production server, this isn't a little CS blade that you rent from some local company or a 16 gig desktop L2 server.
They have had 7-8 years to figure it all out for christ sake!
They have been bragging for years on how they have stresstested their game with so called stresstest bots (wich were in their opinion SUPERIOR to real player tests) and how it was peanuts to allow 10k simultanious users on a single server! And how this game was going to WTFPAWN all the other MMO's.
And now the real launch has come and the server cannot even handle a handful of players before going down again and again.
With that list of games played, it's pretty clear nothing keeps your attention. So in essence, can anything please you? Sorry, had to say it, that list is way to long.
How so?
It's not really too cumbersome on one's attention span to play one or two MMO's and every now and then try / beta another MMO. Especially not if you look at the timespan this list was produced over. The UO beta was OVER NINE THOUSAND years ago after all
Ok, maybe slightly less.
Its obvious you like to play mmo's but for very short time or some at same time.
Ive played AC-Darktide 1.5year from launch-AC2-Darktide 2years-LINEGAE2 3years.
WoW 6 months crap mmo
AoC 2 months crap mmo
And several free ones short like few days to few weeks.
Beta tested linegae2-WoW-Tcos-Darkfall.
And some open beta,s
Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009.....
In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.
I am referring to the free 2-3 days. It isn't really paying to stress test since, technically, we are not paying for the first (or last) couple of days. Just a perspective.
Right! There is a big difference in running a simple server to run one, and running a server that a developer can actually use to hotfix / change / support / protect / develop on / log / database.
I think that you have no idea what actually goes into a production server, this isn't a little CS blade that you rent from some local company or a 16 gig desktop L2 server.
You are aware tons of L2 private servers use ACTUAL NCSoft SQL server files correct? They were either stolen or taken from the company some other way. Seriously, you have no clue what you're talking about. Please quit now...while you're ahe....oh **** it, you aren't ahead of anything.
Again, the same argument applies. Since you have no development experience, you have no fucking clue. SQL is super high level coding, you're not hotfixing a game using SQL. You are not pulling thousands of player logs off the server using that, nor are you actually running a real server.
Now let me teach you how a game server works {mod edit}. The server is usually seperated into several blades. What gets all these blades running is SQL yes, but SQL just executes what it needs to to get the actual game running, you would still need to use SQL if you wanted to launch a server from the desktop, so that's moot.
In any case usually servers are seperated into the different game worlds which are different blades, then there's creature code (This is loot tables, and movement caluclations) then there is a server database, an item database, a portal blade that handles in and out traffic, and then the actual users or players and their movement. Some MMOs even have a blade dedicated to their trade/auction systems.
Now you can run all of these on a desktop server and support a few thousand players yes, however the server works differently. Like mob movement calculations aren't updated every loop unless a player is near by. Same thing with items and pricing, things aren't updated or communicated with players at all times, everything is slowed down or instanced off until a player is near by and needs ALL the information.
AV is running a production server that is updating every game loop keeping logs, keeping admins, keeping IT guys, loading everything at once. Loops are around every .2 seconds(some games are faster some are slower).
Edit:
I will give SQL a little more credit, it's responsible for communication between all the different game databases and information streams, and can be used to transfer log information over to another output server or device, again though, you would sill need that to run a desktop L2 server.
you think this is going to get better in 2-3 days? Hate to break it to you but this looks like countless failed MMO launches. They're simply not going to be able to handle the estimated 40k players that preordered. They'll get mad, rage around, scare everyone off, and Aventurine will go bankrupt shortly after.
That is UNLESS they can fix the stability problems quickly. Averturine has the advantage of working on this damn project for 10 years, so I'm sure the coders are very experienced, and they very well might be able to pull some epic code tweaks out of their arses.
That said, they need to get this game stable VERY soon or we're all going to learn a new definition of the word "hater" and "troll".
With that list of games played, it's pretty clear nothing keeps your attention. So in essence, can anything please you? Sorry, had to say it, that list is way to long.
How so?
It's not really too cumbersome on one's attention span to play one or two MMO's and every now and then try / beta another MMO. Especially not if you look at the timespan this list was produced over. The UO beta was OVER NINE THOUSAND years ago after all
Ok, maybe slightly less.
Its obvious you like to play mmo's but for very short time or some at same time.
Ive played AC-Darktide 1.5year from launch-AC2-Darktide 2years-LINEGAE2 3years.
WoW 6 months crap mmo
AoC 2 months crap mmo
And several free ones short like few days to few weeks.
Beta tested linegae2-WoW-Tcos-Darkfall.
And some open beta,s
AoC I made it to the 1 month mark after release, and only played it because a friend of mine forced me to (even though I told him it sucked while I was in beta) but at least he paid for it :P
AC2 A few of us got free copies of the game when it released, never really gave that game a fair chance but was kinda glad I didnt. Played that for about 2 months on and off with some RL friends and only when they had the time to play.
EQ2 I played with my GF at the time and wasnt allowed to play when she wasnt for fear of castration...
So with certain games my play time was limited due to restrictions by friends who didnt want me to pass them in levels/gameplay. Most of the time I would play 'my' mmo because they were not online and it kept me busy. Beta tests happened in between/during the time, but I never play to heavily into betas (maybe an hour here or there) due to not wanting to spoil the game if I decide to try it at release.
There are 3 types of people in the world.
1.) Those who make things happen
2.) Those who watch things happen
3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
With that list of games played, it's pretty clear nothing keeps your attention. So in essence, can anything please you? Sorry, had to say it, that list is way to long.
How so?
It's not really too cumbersome on one's attention span to play one or two MMO's and every now and then try / beta another MMO. Especially not if you look at the timespan this list was produced over. The UO beta was OVER NINE THOUSAND years ago after all
Ok, maybe slightly less.
Its obvious you like to play mmo's but for very short time or some at same time.
Ive played AC-Darktide 1.5year from launch-AC2-Darktide 2years-LINEGAE2 3years.
WoW 6 months crap mmo
AoC 2 months crap mmo
And several free ones short like few days to few weeks.
Beta tested linegae2-WoW-Tcos-Darkfall.
And some open beta,s
Oh hai thar Evasia!
<- Bartz represent, and TCoS was a crap game aswell. lulz.
Right! There is a big difference in running a simple server to run one, and running a server that a developer can actually use to hotfix / change / support / protect / develop on / log / database.
I think that you have no idea what actually goes into a production server, this isn't a little CS blade that you rent from some local company or a 16 gig desktop L2 server.
You are aware tons of L2 private servers use ACTUAL NCSoft SQL server files correct? They were either stolen or taken from the company some other way. Seriously, you have no clue what you're talking about. Please quit now...while you're ahe....oh **** it, you aren't ahead of anything.
Again, the same argument applies. Since you have no development experience, you have no fucking clue. SQL is super high level coding, you're not hotfixing a game using SQL. You are not pulling thousands of player logs off the server using that, nor are you actually running a real server.
Now let me teach you how a game server works {mod edit}. The server is usually seperated into several blades. What gets all these blades running is SQL yes, but SQL just executes what it needs to to get the actual game running, you would still need to use SQL if you wanted to launch a server from the desktop, so that's moot.
In any case usually servers are seperated into the different game worlds which are different blades, then there's creature code (This is loot tables, and movement caluclations) then there is a server database, an item database, a portal blade that handles in and out traffic, and then the actual users or players and their movement. Some MMOs even have a blade dedicated to their trade/auction systems.
Now you can run all of these on a desktop server and support a few thousand players yes, however the server works differently. Like mob movement calculations aren't updated every loop unless a player is near by. Same thing with items and pricing, things aren't updated or communicated with players at all times, everything is slowed down or instanced off until a player is near by and needs ALL the information.
AV is running a production server that is updating every game loop keeping logs, keeping admins, keeping IT guys, loading everything at once. Loops are around every .2 seconds(some games are faster some are slower).
Edit:
I will give SQL a little more credit, it's responsible for communication between all the different game databases and information streams, and can be used to transfer log information over to another output server or device, again though, you would sill need that to run a desktop L2 server.
Are you not listening, or simply ignorning? I am telling you, these people have got the ACTUAL server files used by NCSoft at one time or another for the game. It runs everything as intended, and plently have also been the target of LAWSUITS by the actual company for stealing their software and basically stealing their customers.
RF Online is another game that has official server files out there for it, there is nothing different from those files compared to the ones that were on their official server at one point or another.
You can throw numbers, graphs, charts at me. It doesn' change the fact certain people are using OFFICIAL software intended only for the dev's use on their own servers.
So stop trying to act like you need Jesus to come down and bless your server rack for the thing to run correctly.
With that list of games played, it's pretty clear nothing keeps your attention. So in essence, can anything please you? Sorry, had to say it, that list is way to long.
How so?
It's not really too cumbersome on one's attention span to play one or two MMO's and every now and then try / beta another MMO. Especially not if you look at the timespan this list was produced over. The UO beta was OVER NINE THOUSAND years ago after all
Ok, maybe slightly less.
Its obvious you like to play mmo's but for very short time or some at same time.
Ive played AC-Darktide 1.5year from launch-AC2-Darktide 2years-LINEGAE2 3years.
WoW 6 months crap mmo
AoC 2 months crap mmo
And several free ones short like few days to few weeks.
Beta tested linegae2-WoW-Tcos-Darkfall.
And some open beta,s
Oh hai thar Evasia!
<- Bartz represent, and TCoS was a crap game aswell. lulz.
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