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For the people who want a wipe - why not just move to NA servers when they come out?

harmonicaharmonica Member Posts: 339

I'd imagine the only thing that will be moved from Euro servers to the new servers is the character itself.

So, since the major (and to me, unfounded,) gripe is that clans built their (destructable, btw) cities before you could, then why not just wait till the NA release and try and build yours there?

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  • SignusMSignusM Member Posts: 2,225

     It's going to be a while. 

  • GoodBadUglyGoodBadUgly Member Posts: 137

    experienced and well organized guilds will start on those servers too.   There is no where to hide in Darkfall.   The sooner some of the whiners realize this and either man up or move on, the better off they will be.

  • AmazingAveryAmazingAvery Age of Conan AdvocateMember UncommonPosts: 7,188
    Originally posted by harmonica


    I'd imagine the only thing that will be moved from Euro servers to the new servers is the character itself.
    So, since the major (and to me, unfounded,) gripe is that clans built their (destructable, btw) cities before you could, then why not just wait till the NA release and try and build yours there?



     

    Quite true, plus it will give time for them to sort out all the bugs and billing issues and you would get a better connection.



  • NC360NC360 Member Posts: 67

    Players who exploited their characters, will move those exploited characters to the US servers. Aventurine said they will help the players move to the new servers.

    Edit: Me thinks harmonica is an exploiter.

  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,065

    Because there's a very good chance DF won't even be opening a 2nd EU server, and NA servers are a mere twinkle in Tasos eye.

    But I agree, no wipe on the current server, fix the issues and wait for the next server to open.

     

     

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  • fyerwallfyerwall Member UncommonPosts: 3,240
    Originally posted by NC360


    Players who exploited their characters, will move those exploited characters to the US servers. Aventurine said they will help the players move to the new servers.



     

    Now if they dont allow those people to transfer with money/banked items to the new server, or just allow them to transfer their name and nothing else I wouldnt see anyone having a problem.

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,065
    Originally posted by NC360


    Players who exploited their characters, will move those exploited characters to the US servers. Aventurine said they will help the players move to the new servers.

     

    But they didn't promise to let them bring over their loot, gold, or cities now did they. 

    Might have to go with just the armor on their backs.

     

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  • DrazmicDrazmic Member Posts: 181
    Originally posted by Kyleran

    Originally posted by NC360


    Players who exploited their characters, will move those exploited characters to the US servers. Aventurine said they will help the players move to the new servers.

     

    But they didn't promise to let them bring over their loot, gold, or cities now did they. 

    Might have to go with just the armor on their backs.

     

     

    Highly doubt you can't keep your stuff.

  • NC360NC360 Member Posts: 67
    Originally posted by Kyleran

    Originally posted by NC360


    Players who exploited their characters, will move those exploited characters to the US servers. Aventurine said they will help the players move to the new servers.

     

    But they didn't promise to let them bring over their loot, gold, or cities now did they. 

    Might have to go with just the armor on their backs.

     



     

    Of course they can bring their loot and gold, since it's connected to their characters. But not cities.

  • mcquaidedmcquaided Member Posts: 157

    Wow what a brilliant idea .

    yes tell paid subscribers to GTFO out the server and allow AV to charge their credit card till the NA servers come . Yeah make em wait

     

    wow what a selfish little dwarf you are.

    Im going to sell you a dream.

  • harmonicaharmonica Member Posts: 339
    Originally posted by NC360


    Players who exploited their characters, will move those exploited characters to the US servers. Aventurine said they will help the players move to the new servers.
    Edit: Me thinks harmonica is an exploiter.

     

    I am a UO Player. :)

    The most people are getting from the out of synch mobs is Money, so yeah, I guess they can have some more money than you (since you refuse to kill any type of bugged monster). In UO, we all "exploited" if you're going to call it that. Nobody freaked out, they just joined in until it was fixed.

    I trapped monsters in houses to raise skill. I trapped Demons behind rocks in the city of Wind to raise my magic resistance. EVERYBODY did.

    Hopefully they'll fix it, but this isn't WoW. They're not going to get "epic mounts" by doing this and sell it on ebay. They're going to get a destructable city. That you can take.

    If I were you, I'd do it too until it gets fixed.

    The point is - they have no advantages that you don't... everyone is playing the same game.

     

  • EntragienEntragien Member CommonPosts: 18

    NA servers are in the distant future.

     

    What's more, their player base is demanding it, because SHOCKING, a majority of players are not exploiting the system, but would rather enjoy the game as is intended.

     

    I guarantee the same people that exploited are going to be the same people "speed hacking" and what not.  Send the message now.  Wipe the damn server!

  • mjones1052mjones1052 Member Posts: 221
    Originally posted by NC360


    Edit: Me thinks harmonica is an exploiter.

     

    Completely agree.

    The ONLY people who will complain about a server wipe are the ones using exploits, thats what it comes to.  There is nothing any of us have that would be so horrible to lose from a server wipe that was not gained during exploiting.  You guys are just pathetic to think that this is a viable way for this game to launch.

    Oh and I hope your joking about the NA server move as it seems to be very far in the distance.  Now a 2nd server, yea.  But why do you guys feel the apparent need to QQ over losing your exploited gear and gold?  Is it because you know you can't do it if these bugs were not in effect?  Is it that bad to lose the small amount of what you have gained from exploiting?

    And pretty lame to get completely trashed in a thread and then make your own on basically the same subject....

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  • DrazmicDrazmic Member Posts: 181
    Originally posted by harmonica

    Originally posted by NC360


    Players who exploited their characters, will move those exploited characters to the US servers. Aventurine said they will help the players move to the new servers.
    Edit: Me thinks harmonica is an exploiter.

     

    I am a UO Player. :)

    The most people are getting from the out of synch mobs is Money, so yeah, I guess they can have some more money than you (since you refuse to kill any type of bugged monster). In UO, we all "exploited" if you're going to call it that. Nobody freaked out, they just joined in until it was fixed.

    I trapped monsters in houses to raise skill. I trapped Demons behind rocks in the city of Wind to raise my magic resistance. EVERYBODY did.

    Hopefully they'll fix it, but this isn't WoW. They're not going to get "epic mounts" by doing this and sell it on ebay. They're going to get a destructable city. That you can take.

    If I were you, I'd do it too until it gets fixed.

    The point is - they have no advantages that you don't... everyone is playing the same game.

     

    What's your in-game name? I will make sure to kill you while naked to show exploiters can't play real games.

  • PEVEUSRAGEPEVEUSRAGE Member Posts: 20

    Honestly, can you think of a better argument than just encouraging everyone else to exploit alongside LoD and other clans?

    Do you think it is a good idea to tell people to just leave the server, and cause it to be an unbalanced ghost town? Because all it takes is for one clan alliance to leave, the word to spread, and others will follow.

    I honeslty wouldn't doubt if you are just here to kill Darkfall in some odd way that you think will somehow work out in the end.  All of your posts have been condoning exploiting saying we are all "playing the same game."

    Indeed, we are, but we are NOT all exploiters.

     

  • NC360NC360 Member Posts: 67
    Originally posted by harmonica

    Originally posted by NC360


    Players who exploited their characters, will move those exploited characters to the US servers. Aventurine said they will help the players move to the new servers.
    Edit: Me thinks harmonica is an exploiter.

     

    I am a UO Player. :)

    The most people are getting from the out of synch mobs is Money, so yeah, I guess they can have some more money than you (since you refuse to kill any type of bugged monster). In UO, we all "exploited" if you're going to call it that. Nobody freaked out, they just joined in until it was fixed.

    I trapped monsters in houses to raise skill. I trapped Demons behind rocks in the city of Wind to raise my magic resistance. EVERYBODY did.

    Hopefully they'll fix it, but this isn't WoW. They're not going to get "epic mounts" by doing this and sell it on ebay. They're going to get a destructable city. That you can take.

    If I were you, I'd do it too until it gets fixed.

    The point is - they have no advantages that you don't... everyone is playing the same game.

     

    In UO, the trapped demons still could attack. Killing NPCs in Darkfall, that don't even move because of a few feet of water, and don't attack, but are standing loot machines... is freaken lame.

  • EntragienEntragien Member CommonPosts: 18
    Originally posted by harmonica

    Originally posted by NC360


    Players who exploited their characters, will move those exploited characters to the US servers. Aventurine said they will help the players move to the new servers.
    Edit: Me thinks harmonica is an exploiter.

     

    I am a UO Player. :)

    The most people are getting from the out of synch mobs is Money, so yeah, I guess they can have some more money than you (since you refuse to kill any type of bugged monster). In UO, we all "exploited" if you're going to call it that. Nobody freaked out, they just joined in until it was fixed.

    I trapped monsters in houses to raise skill. I trapped Demons behind rocks in the city of Wind to raise my magic resistance. EVERYBODY did.

    Hopefully they'll fix it, but this isn't WoW. They're not going to get "epic mounts" by doing this and sell it on ebay. They're going to get a destructable city. That you can take.

    If I were you, I'd do it too until it gets fixed.

    The point is - they have no advantages that you don't... everyone is playing the same game.

     



     

    Everybody did??

     

    I guess everyone speed hacks too.

    You are really embarassing yourself... take what dignity you have ... that I'm sure you exploited to gain... and GTFO.

  • NetterNetter Member Posts: 6
    Originally posted by harmonica


    I'd imagine the only thing that will be moved from Euro servers to the new servers is the character itself.
    So, since the major (and to me, unfounded,) gripe is that clans built their (destructable, btw) cities before you could, then why not just wait till the NA release and try and build yours there?

     

    As long as the transfers are done with naked characters (ie only skills intact) and no bank items or gold, I'd happily agree to that.

     

    I still find it funny and ironic that the "hardcore" players are afraid of loosing a day of farming mobs that don't fight back instead of starting over on a level playing field.  (This assumes, however, that AV actually get's their sh!t together and fixes these bugs.)  In my opinion, they are more carebear then any typical WoW player as it seems as though a lot of them equate skill with using exploits to their advantage as opposed to their prowess on the battle field... but whatever... arguing about it isn't going to solve anything as their philosophy on being hardcore is diametrically opposite from mine.

     

  • GoodBadUglyGoodBadUgly Member Posts: 137

    Sorry I find it very hard to believe that any of the bellyachers here would walk past a mob that is stuck in place.    Especially with the way you post and act, I really don't see most of you as having any scruples yourselves.

    It kind of sucks to know that some clans might have gotten cities alot easier because they had bugged mobs that were easier to hunt while my guild had just the opposite yet still manage to nail a city down.    I don't want my guild to be punished because of the few exploiters and the mass army of inept crybaby's.   It just doesn't make sense.

  • EntragienEntragien Member CommonPosts: 18
    Originally posted by GoodBadUgly


    Sorry I find it very hard to believe that any of the bellyachers here would walk past a mob that is stuck in place.    Especially with the way you post and act, I really don't see most of you as having any scruples yourselves.
    It kind of sucks to know that some clans might have gotten cities alot easier because they had bugged mobs that were easier to hunt while my guild had just the opposite yet still manage to nail a city down.    I don't want my guild to be punished because of the few exploiters and the mass army of inept crybaby's.   It just doesn't make sense.



     

    I'm going to assume that your guild got their gains legitimately.  If that is the case, then what did you REALLY gain in such a short time on a FUBAR'd server?

  • dalevi1dalevi1 Member Posts: 829
    Originally posted by harmonica


    I'd imagine the only thing that will be moved from Euro servers to the new servers is the character itself.
    So, since the major (and to me, unfounded,) gripe is that clans built their (destructable, btw) cities before you could, then why not just wait till the NA release and try and build yours there?

     

    Because this level of "customer service" has no place in the NA market, unless it is F2P. I hate F2P games, but this is a serious candidate. Why pay for this level. I await the reverse engineering on this one (same level of service).

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  • mjones1052mjones1052 Member Posts: 221
    Originally posted by GoodBadUgly


    Sorry I find it very hard to believe that any of the bellyachers here would walk past a mob that is stuck in place.    Especially with the way you post and act, I really don't see most of you as having any scruples yourselves.
    It kind of sucks to know that some clans might have gotten cities alot easier because they had bugged mobs that were easier to hunt while my guild had just the opposite yet still manage to nail a city down.    I don't want my guild to be punished because of the few exploiters and the mass army of inept crybaby's.   It just doesn't make sense.


    You guys, as we ALL are, are waiting to get into game and kill shit.  Would it really be THAT horrible to have to do that little bit of work again?  I believe that your guild didn't exploit, as not ALL of them did.  But a wipe ensures that everyone is on the same page.  I don't see the harm in it.  Why would it be so bad to go and have to kill some mobs again?

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  • fyerwallfyerwall Member UncommonPosts: 3,240
    Originally posted by harmonica

    Originally posted by NC360


    Players who exploited their characters, will move those exploited characters to the US servers. Aventurine said they will help the players move to the new servers.
    Edit: Me thinks harmonica is an exploiter.

     

    I am a UO Player. :)

    The most people are getting from the out of synch mobs is Money, so yeah, I guess they can have some more money than you (since you refuse to kill any type of bugged monster). In UO, we all "exploited" if you're going to call it that. Nobody freaked out, they just joined in until it was fixed.

    I trapped monsters in houses to raise skill. I trapped Demons behind rocks in the city of Wind to raise my magic resistance. EVERYBODY did.

    Hopefully they'll fix it, but this isn't WoW. They're not going to get "epic mounts" by doing this and sell it on ebay. They're going to get a destructable city. That you can take.

    If I were you, I'd do it too until it gets fixed.

    The point is - they have no advantages that you don't... everyone is playing the same game.

     



     

    Um, you all maybe.

    Never used a macro program nor any known/unknown exploit myself.

    Though I did have a lot of True Black dye in my bank

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    1.) Those who make things happen
    2.) Those who watch things happen
    3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"


  • GoodBadUglyGoodBadUgly Member Posts: 137

    The reason I don't want a wipe is because we put ourselves out there.   We have enemies that now know what city we planned on taking and they would like nothing better than to grab it out from under us just to spite us.

    We kept things secret including our hunting plans to raise our cash and people know of that too.   No it wasn't on the exploited mobs as that happened on the other side of the map but we still had a good plan if all the mobs we were fighting weren't invisible.

    It sucks that some guilds had it easy but we had it much harder than usual and persevered and I am proud of it.    I don't want it wiped but I do want the AI and the sync issues fixed immediately.

    AV knew about some of these problems and I can't believe they launched and left the game up knowing that these problems existed.   Some of it was reported and well known in beta despite what they've recently said publicly.

  • mjones1052mjones1052 Member Posts: 221
    Originally posted by GoodBadUgly


    The reason I don't want a wipe is because we put ourselves out there.   We have enemies that now know what city we planned on taking and they would like nothing better than to grab it out from under us just to spite us.
    We kept things secret including our hunting plans to raise our cash and people know of that too.   No it wasn't on the exploited mobs as that happened on the other side of the map but we still had a good plan if all the mobs we were fighting weren't invisible.
    It sucks that some guilds had it easy but we had it much harder than usual and persevered and I am proud of it.    I don't want it wiped but I do want the AI and the sync issues fixed immediately.
    AV knew about some of these problems and I can't believe they launched and left the game up knowing that these problems existed.   Some of it was reported and well known in beta despite what they've recently said publicly.

     

    I can see that.  Fact is there are many stones, but I agree you should get yours.  But this could have been the same problem at launch.  Your stone could have been contended from the get go and it would have been the same situation.  This is part of the sandbox genre, you have to deal with things like this.  The exploits can not just be left untouched.

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