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  • crockcrock Member Posts: 556


    Originally posted by Darkmastersh
    Oh no, that crock a$$hole again.....
    Lol he is so stupid, he creates new accounts only to flame AO......
    What a loser spirit
    PS: Is SOE paying you? moron

    new accounts?

    what a noobi

    so u think everyone who say AO suxx its me? hahaha

    sure u play AO and its sure complex for u::::01::::::01::::::01::::::01::::::01::::::01::

    btw neocron isnt complex ...but still not so brainless like camping in AO
    about SOE lol dont think they know funcom realy exist::::01::

  • MaxxxMaxxx Member UncommonPosts: 389


    Originally posted by crock
    Originally posted by Darkmastersh
    Oh no, that crock a$$hole again.....
    Lol he is so stupid, he creates new accounts only to flame AO......
    What a loser spirit
    PS: Is SOE paying you? moron

    new accounts?

    what a noobi

    so u think everyone who say AO suxx its me? hahaha

    sure u play AO and its sure complex for u::::01::::::01::::::01::::::01::::::01::::::01::

    btw neocron isnt complex ...but still not so brainless like camping in AO
    about SOE lol dont think they know funcom realy exist::::01::



    yay for a post that doesn't make sense!
    come up with better flames... We all know you don't like AO and you don't have a reason for it other than it "suxx".


    I play this game and i enjoy it. Enough said.

    Maxxatron - Anarchy Online

  • frosteyefrosteye Member Posts: 13

    amm, wow this thread kinda went off tracks.

    id like to point it to the points where i thought it was imporatnt before we all started tosing flame bombs:

    1- AO got a very complex char development system, yet NILL complexity in levleing and obtaining items. almost no quests, adn those that do exits give no SK,wouldnt it be great to level on anything but hecks? i know i leveld slower on my chars pre- SL/NW, but its was somewhat more intresting, mayeb even a bit more varied- it would be cool to have high xp/sk alternativs to hecks.

    2- AO is shallow in content.thats a fact , and our last expansion added very litle to that.they wonderfull idea of social wear doesnt justify a whole expansion. player shops where never implemnted, and fc simply ignored the screames of the beta testers not to realse this expansion yet.i think, what AO needs is for devs to stop making the game WIDER and go DEEPER. as in, there are 10 tons of non exploerd areas on rk, who are just  screaming to be used for quests, special mobs and the like, or story line events. im sure every one of you who played that game for mroe than 1 month can agree.

    3- i think funcom been blessed with very god community, who is very intrested in the game and its future, i also think thye lack every simple skill of paying attention to the feedback they recive rom us. look at nt dots for example: game project manager says he doesnt realy exect anyone to hit alien level 25 anyday soon, even more, he expects us to stop before that, yet the only alien dot that is good is locked level 27+ (talking end game levels here). add to this the way profs are negelcted and left imbalanced, and it makes u wonder why?

    4-  the cutomer service in game is bad. so many ppl lost stuff to the last hacker/scammer wave... and get ignored by the CS , even though its all logged and stuff.

     

    i think, funcom looks at us as addicts, who will do anything for the next dose.i also kind of think they are right about that , at least with major part of Ao HARDCORE players. but in the end of the day, its time they woke up and understood its US who pay thier salaries.

     

    *puts on fire euip*

    this is gonna hurt:P

    *ducks fer cover*

  • crockcrock Member Posts: 556


    Originally posted by frosteye
    amm, wow this thread kinda went off tracks.
    id like to point it to the points where i thought it was imporatnt before we all started tosing flame bombs:
    1- AO got a very complex char development system, yet NILL complexity in levleing and obtaining items. almost no quests, adn those that do exits give no SK,wouldnt it be great to level on anything but hecks? i know i leveld slower on my chars pre- SL/NW, but its was somewhat more intresting, mayeb even a bit more varied- it would be cool to have high xp/sk alternativs to hecks.
    2- AO is shallow in content.thats a fact , and our last expansion added very litle to that.they wonderfull idea of social wear doesnt justify a whole expansion. player shops where never implemnted, and fc simply ignored the screames of the beta testers not to realse this expansion yet.i think, what AO needs is for devs to stop making the game WIDER and go DEEPER. as in, there are 10 tons of non exploerd areas on rk, who are just screaming to be used for quests, special mobs and the like, or story line events. im sure every one of you who played that game for mroe than 1 month can agree.
    3- i think funcom been blessed with very god community, who is very intrested in the game and its future, i also think thye lack every simple skill of paying attention to the feedback they recive rom us. look at nt dots for example: game project manager says he doesnt realy exect anyone to hit alien level 25 anyday soon, even more, he expects us to stop before that, yet the only alien dot that is good is locked level 27+ (talking end game levels here). add to this the way profs are negelcted and left imbalanced, and it makes u wonder why?
    4- the cutomer service in game is bad. so many ppl lost stuff to the last hacker/scammer wave... and get ignored by the CS , even though its all logged and stuff.

    i think, funcom looks at us as addicts, who will do anything for the next dose.i also kind of think they are right about that , at least with major part of Ao HARDCORE players. but in the end of the day, its time they woke up and understood its US who pay thier salaries.

    *puts on fire euip*
    this is gonna hurt:P
    *ducks fer cover*

    i think u will be eaten too by funcoms virtual slaves
    ::::01::

    u cant insult their GOD even in light form


  • UmbroodUmbrood Member UncommonPosts: 1,809



    Originally posted by frosteye

    amm, wow this thread kinda went off tracks.

    id like to point it to the points where i thought it was imporatnt before we all started tosing flame bombs:

    1- AO got a very complex char development system, yet NILL complexity in levleing and obtaining items. almost no quests, adn those that do exits give no SK,wouldnt it be great to level on anything but hecks? i know i leveld slower on my chars pre- SL/NW, but its was somewhat more intresting, mayeb even a bit more varied- it would be cool to have high xp/sk alternativs to hecks.

    Agree 100%

    2- AO is shallow in content.thats a fact , and our last expansion added very litle to that.they wonderfull idea of social wear doesnt justify a whole expansion. player shops where never implemnted, and fc simply ignored the screames of the beta testers not to realse this expansion yet.i think, what AO needs is for devs to stop making the game WIDER and go DEEPER. as in, there are 10 tons of non exploerd areas on rk, who are just  screaming to be used for quests, special mobs and the like, or story line events. im sure every one of you who played that game for mroe than 1 month can agree.

    Do not agree at all on first part, AO has, at least in comparison. a lot of content. Few games comes even close, maybe EQ and AC but thats it. On second part I agree again 100%. By making it wider they only make it blunt and unprecise, when making it deeper would have made it sharp and on the spot.

    3- i think funcom been blessed with very god community, who is very intrested in the game and its future, i also think thye lack every simple skill of paying attention to the feedback they recive rom us. look at nt dots for example: game project manager says he doesnt realy exect anyone to hit alien level 25 anyday soon, even more, he expects us to stop before that, yet the only alien dot that is good is locked level 27+ (talking end game levels here). add to this the way profs are negelcted and left imbalanced, and it makes u wonder why?

    One of the best communities ever, if you disregard the flamers and fanboys. Many of the hordcore old school AO players are gone though, FC chased them away.

    4-  the cutomer service in game is bad. so many ppl lost stuff to the last hacker/scammer wave... and get ignored by the CS , even though its all logged and stuff.

    Do not agree at all here, again in comparison AO has one of the best support staff ever, many of the volunteers have been there since very early on and are very good at what they do. I have always gotten a response and allthough only one time out of 14 did I get a reimburse for something that got eaten by a bug, but that is still miles ahead of any other game opn the market. They have some very wierd policys though, I once helped them a volunteer very early on but their rules made the work pointless.

     

    i think, funcom looks at us as addicts, who will do anything for the next dose.i also kind of think they are right about that , at least with major part of Ao HARDCORE players. but in the end of the day, its time they woke up and understood its US who pay thier salaries.

    Funcom has zero left of the intellectual capital it had once, I doubt they even have the ability to think so far as to consider us anything, not even sure they realise the customers exists.

    *puts on fire euip*

    this is gonna hurt:P

    *ducks fer cover*




    NO need, well put and well spoken.

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    Originally posted by Jerek_

    I wonder if you honestly even believe what you type, or if you live in a made up world of facts.
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  • frosteyefrosteye Member Posts: 13

    woot:) still alive!

    hmm, just some tiny response to what u said:)

    for the CS, i realy dont belive in the comparision to other companies tbh. i pay FC, and not the oher companis, i think only cus some other games are horribly made, doesnt mean i need to settle for less than good. a good example is a GM ignoring a players plea to shut his account, since the player knew someone had hacked him and already changed acceces code. he told the GM the sec he will log out all will be lost, the GM bluntly told him to send an e-mail,even though it was clear that my mate is about to lose 3 yuears of equip (full t3 suits, azure,rbps,dchest, the works) the CS person quite honestly didnt care.my friend had to logout. the hacker assumed control of his account, sold his items,and deleted his nodrop out of mare meance. it took FC a long time to even contacnt my mate, and then they told him its companys policy not give it back,and even more, since its been 3 days since its been deleted they cant reiumburse it (bull if u ask me). offcourse they didnt care that the 4 days passed du to thier negelting thier customer. id like to post out that all this happend when FC was aware that a huge account scam was going on, and yet, they chose to let my mate lose all he had. 3 yeatrs of hard work, down the drain.

    also one more point about the "complex" part. while char dev is HUGE in its possiblits, FC keeps relasiing cookie cutter making patchs and items, and thus kills about 90% of the will to be diffrent. u wont see many ppl go out of the cookie cutter, simply cus the nerfs/patchs make anything out of the cube quite gimped.*cough* pvp+AS *cough*

    nice to get some opinions insted of the "omg ur dumb " and "na man, UR dumb" thing:)

    *back into the nuke shelter!*

     

  • UmbroodUmbrood Member UncommonPosts: 1,809

    Thats a friggin horrible story, my condolences to yer friend.. :(

    I am not a violent person but, (allthough that is a lie, I am...) If one got hold of such a person there would be some serious research into the spanish inquisistion and the digging up of the most horrible torture man has ever concieved.. Just reading that makes my vision go red.

    I really do not see how FC could be able to confirm if this story was true or not? This seem to be common in most of these games, there are little to no safety precausions from the companys side to prevent or remedy these things.

    Whats even worse is that if you report something like this then they view YOU as a criminal that is trying to scam THEM!!!

    As I said I used to be an ARK in AO, (volunteer GM sorta) and I know for a fact people try to scam themself to items in a million ways. Sad thing is the few that have a legit claim, as here, get the same treatment the scammers do, wich make the situation tenfold worse..

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    Originally posted by Jerek_

    I wonder if you honestly even believe what you type, or if you live in a made up world of facts.
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  • frosteyefrosteye Member Posts: 13

    well thing is, the player petitioned, contacted a GM, told him he checked his account on the web and that someone alterd his password so he cant even get into his account info on webpage, and asked to please block it so that he wont lose anything... had they checked they would have seen he is playing from that same addres for 3 years, and also, they could have verified its him with all kinds of questions. also, id imagine the eula is so protecting of the comapny so it can porlly allow them to susped an aacount for a short while to check such things out, and to validate the user, yet, they chose not to take any action, cept give my mate the dry sad answer that costed him all he had. the enraging part is, that its becuse THEY took so long to contact  him that he lost the deleted items also, and that mens a whole t3 suit, and more, who where never given back. loads of other cases like thoe happen ,anothewr org mate had her account reactivated, and started with 0 faciton insted of 40k, and her gph was deleted. when she petitioned it, she got insta banned for nodrop tradeing, till some GM unbanned her and told her that they cant get her that gph back. this is the main issue i have with AO, its the way the cutomer is treated like he is dirt.  starts with ignoring in game problems like bad patches who arent properly QA`d, and goes on with  hurting the player base with simply not taking care of the reualts of bugs and scamms.

     

    tbh? i think the guys in bliozzard should be sending flowers to FC for killing its competition for them. last month defintly did it for most of us old school players.

  • SothornSothorn Member UncommonPosts: 67

    AO is a great game, one of the best out currently.  That being said, the way that Funcom treated its player base got under my skin so much, that I did cancel my account.  (Even after installing Alien Invasion.)  In addition to myself, I had 4 other people from my guild and 3 other friends in game cancel because of the same concerns.  Im sure we were not the only ones.

    That being said, Im sure AO has a couple of years left in it...maybe less if they do not get their act together.  However, they have lost a devoted fan. 

    L187 Soldier
    L167 Nanotechnician
    L121 Trader
    L119 Metaphysicist
    L112 Doctor

    (and most of those were made before the ToTW and SL, so there is some time invested there... image )

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  • 51505150 Member UncommonPosts: 222
    Anyone who played an Engineer in AO will know first hand all about FC love (or lack thereof)

  • KeltikKeltik Member UncommonPosts: 89

    Yes , because after all , engies are never among the best damage dealers at beast raids are they ?

     

     

    Oh wait !! Heh engies need love , riiiiiiiiiiight , traders are a bit off atm .image

  • Kaynos1972Kaynos1972 Member Posts: 2,316



    Originally posted by 5150
    Anyone who played an Engineer in AO will know first hand all about FC love (or lack thereof)



    I played an Engi to 200, i can safely say that Engi are perfect the way they are, they don't need anything else except better pet pathing.

    I cancelled my account 6 months ago and i have no intention of coming back after what i'm hearing about AI.

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