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Darkstar111Darkstar111 Member Posts: 675

 I heard from a guidly my name popped up in a few posts while ive been busy, so i thought id give everyone a shout out.

 

Ive been Busy with playing Darkfall and watching alot of episodes of the Shield while waiting for to play Darkfall. (there was a lot of waiting)

No surprise to anyone the launch was a mess.

U couldnt help but laugh at the invisible goblins ganging up on u while u where desperatly trying to guess where they where.

Memories I will treasure forever. 

 

 

Now thou the game is great, and so ill probably be playing it alot more and I dunno if ill be posting as much.

Id like to give a shoutout to the trolls who kept this foum fun, they seem to be leaving now so hopefully I can get em one last time.

 

To everyone who said it was Vapoware, to everyone who said it would fail, to everyone who said it was a scam, to everyone who said it was a clickfest, to everyone who said it was an empty world, to everyone who said the graphics where bad, to everyone who said noone would like it.

And to everyone with completly ridiculous derogatory comments..

 

You were wrong.

 

 

Also a shoutout to all my partners in crime, who held the troll advance at bay leaving a few voices of reason to greet the many curious people who wandered in here with a genuine intention of looking at the game.

I salute you.

 

 

And to everyone who still cannot play the game, hang in there.

U do not want the launch we had to go throu, and now u wont have to, AV is a small company with little money who has made a great thing, just give them time and they will deliver.

 

-Darkstar                          

 

 

 

 

 

 

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  • daarcodaarco Member UncommonPosts: 4,276

    Hopefully i will get the game tomorrow..again!

    And then i dont need forums anymore. So i also want to thank the ones that looked forward to a game such as Darkfall, now we have it.

    All other trolls and haters can move to another small indie developer and bash them because they are a small company.  Thats what the haters seems to do best.

  • Originally posted by Darkstar111


     I heard from a guidly my name popped up in a few posts while ive been busy, so i thought id give everyone a shout out.
     
    Ive been Busy with playing Darkfall and watching alot of episodes of the Shield while waiting for to play Darkfall. (there was a lot of waiting)
    No surprise to anyone the launch was a mess.
    U couldnt help but laugh at the invisible goblins ganging up on u while u where desperatly trying to guess where they where.
    Memories I will treasure forever. 
     
     
    Now thou the game is great, and so ill probably be playing it alot more and I dunno if ill be posting as much.
    Id like to give a shoutout to the trolls who kept this foum fun, they seem to be leaving now so hopefully I can get em one last time.
     
    To everyone who said it was Vapoware, to everyone who said it would fail, to everyone who said it was a scam, to everyone who said it was a clickfest, to everyone who said it was an empty world, to everyone who said the graphics where bad, to everyone who said noone would like it.
    And to everyone with completly ridiculous derogatory comments..
     
    You were wrong.
     
     
    Also a shoutout to all my partners in crime, who held the troll advance at bay leaving a few voices of reason to greet the many curious people who wandered in here with a genuine intention of looking at the game.
    I salute you.
     
     
    And to everyone who still cannot play the game, hang in there.
    U do not want the launch we had to go throu, and now u wont have to, AV is a small company with little money who has made a great thing, just give them time and they will deliver.
     
    -Darkstar                          
     
     
     
     
     
     

    I hope your level of devotion despite this whole fiasco is just the reflection of how satisfied you are with the game.  I really want to play and I have this feeling I may not get a chance to anytime soon.  :(

  • nastilonnastilon Member UncommonPosts: 152
    Originally posted by Darkstar111


     I heard from a guidly my name popped up in a few posts while ive been busy, so i thought id give everyone a shout out.
     
    Ive been Busy with playing Darkfall and watching alot of episodes of the Shield while waiting for to play Darkfall. (there was a lot of waiting)
    No surprise to anyone the launch was a mess.
    U couldnt help but laugh at the invisible goblins ganging up on u while u where desperatly trying to guess where they where.
    Memories I will treasure forever. 
     
     
    Now thou the game is great, and so ill probably be playing it alot more and I dunno if ill be posting as much.
    Id like to give a shoutout to the trolls who kept this foum fun, they seem to be leaving now so hopefully I can get em one last time.
     
    To everyone who said it was Vapoware, to everyone who said it would fail, to everyone who said it was a scam, to everyone who said it was a clickfest, to everyone who said it was an empty world, to everyone who said the graphics where bad, to everyone who said noone would like it.
    And to everyone with completly ridiculous derogatory comments..
     
    You were wrong.
     
     
    Also a shoutout to all my partners in crime, who held the troll advance at bay leaving a few voices of reason to greet the many curious people who wandered in here with a genuine intention of looking at the game.
    I salute you.
     
     
    And to everyone who still cannot play the game, hang in there.
    U do not want the launch we had to go throu, and now u wont have to, AV is a small company with little money who has made a great thing, just give them time and they will deliver.
     
    -Darkstar                          
     
     
     
     
     
     

    You on crack buddy? LOL.

    Most people can't even buy the game or login at the moment.  It is still vaporware, until they fix their account issues and let the customers who want in, in.

    Having 5 or 6000 people manage to get in before the account server was closed does not mean the game is good and open for business.

    Let's wait and see before you go tell everyone they were wrong, because right now, 9 out of 10 people can't even try Darkfall.

     

     

  • EvasiaEvasia Member Posts: 2,827

    Ok that was again a waste of time read this topic:(

    Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009.....
    In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.

  • RaknarRaknar Member Posts: 192

    I think I'll wait a couple months and see how many people are still playing before I call  the game a success.

  • Originally posted by nastilon

    Originally posted by Darkstar111


     I heard from a guidly my name popped up in a few posts while ive been busy, so i thought id give everyone a shout out.
     
    Ive been Busy with playing Darkfall and watching alot of episodes of the Shield while waiting for to play Darkfall. (there was a lot of waiting)
    No surprise to anyone the launch was a mess.
    U couldnt help but laugh at the invisible goblins ganging up on u while u where desperatly trying to guess where they where.
    Memories I will treasure forever. 
     
     
    Now thou the game is great, and so ill probably be playing it alot more and I dunno if ill be posting as much.
    Id like to give a shoutout to the trolls who kept this foum fun, they seem to be leaving now so hopefully I can get em one last time.
     
    To everyone who said it was Vapoware, to everyone who said it would fail, to everyone who said it was a scam, to everyone who said it was a clickfest, to everyone who said it was an empty world, to everyone who said the graphics where bad, to everyone who said noone would like it.
    And to everyone with completly ridiculous derogatory comments..
     
    You were wrong.
     
     
    Also a shoutout to all my partners in crime, who held the troll advance at bay leaving a few voices of reason to greet the many curious people who wandered in here with a genuine intention of looking at the game.
    I salute you.
     
     
    And to everyone who still cannot play the game, hang in there.
    U do not want the launch we had to go throu, and now u wont have to, AV is a small company with little money who has made a great thing, just give them time and they will deliver.
     
    -Darkstar                          
     
     
     
     
     
     

    You on crack buddy? LOL.

    Most people can't even buy the game or login at the moment.  It is still vaporware, until they fix their account issues and let the customers who want in, in.

    Having 5 or 6000 people manage to get in before the account server was closed does not mean the game is good and open for business.

    Let's wait and see before you go tell everyone they were wrong, because right now, 9 out of 10 people can't even try Darkfall.

     

     

     

    What a total troll post. Still vapourware?

    Sigh, i guess some people never grow up.

  • daarcodaarco Member UncommonPosts: 4,276

    The thing is that you always know when you have found a good game. Most people play a MMO because its new, not because its any special.

    And for those that knows in a split second that DF is a good game for them, will stay no matter what......as me for example. Its no secret i dont play MMOs with classes or levels, so i dont have that many to choose from anyway. If im lucky....Mortal Online and Earthrise will be out "soon".

  • nastilonnastilon Member UncommonPosts: 152
    Originally posted by xTwiSteDx

    Originally posted by nastilon

    Originally posted by Darkstar111


     I heard from a guidly my name popped up in a few posts while ive been busy, so i thought id give everyone a shout out.
     
    Ive been Busy with playing Darkfall and watching alot of episodes of the Shield while waiting for to play Darkfall. (there was a lot of waiting)
    No surprise to anyone the launch was a mess.
    U couldnt help but laugh at the invisible goblins ganging up on u while u where desperatly trying to guess where they where.
    Memories I will treasure forever. 
     
     
    Now thou the game is great, and so ill probably be playing it alot more and I dunno if ill be posting as much.
    Id like to give a shoutout to the trolls who kept this foum fun, they seem to be leaving now so hopefully I can get em one last time.
     
    To everyone who said it was Vapoware, to everyone who said it would fail, to everyone who said it was a scam, to everyone who said it was a clickfest, to everyone who said it was an empty world, to everyone who said the graphics where bad, to everyone who said noone would like it.
    And to everyone with completly ridiculous derogatory comments..
     
    You were wrong.
     
     
    Also a shoutout to all my partners in crime, who held the troll advance at bay leaving a few voices of reason to greet the many curious people who wandered in here with a genuine intention of looking at the game.
    I salute you.
     
     
    And to everyone who still cannot play the game, hang in there.
    U do not want the launch we had to go throu, and now u wont have to, AV is a small company with little money who has made a great thing, just give them time and they will deliver.
     
    -Darkstar                          
     
     
     
     
     
     

    You on crack buddy? LOL.

    Most people can't even buy the game or login at the moment.  It is still vaporware, until they fix their account issues and let the customers who want in, in.

    Having 5 or 6000 people manage to get in before the account server was closed does not mean the game is good and open for business.

    Let's wait and see before you go tell everyone they were wrong, because right now, 9 out of 10 people can't even try Darkfall.

     

     

     

    What a total troll post. Still vapourware?

    Sigh, i guess some people never grow up.

    Excuse me.

     

    This is NOT a troll post. I WANT to buy this game. I WANT to log in.

    But the fact is, it has NOT been released yet.

    That means, it is STILL vaporware because as of yet Aventurine has not delivered the goods to market.

    There is nothing trolling about this.

  • Darkstar111Darkstar111 Member Posts: 675
    Originally posted by nastilon

    Originally posted by xTwiSteDx

    Originally posted by nastilon

    Originally posted by Darkstar111


     I heard from a guidly my name popped up in a few posts while ive been busy, so i thought id give everyone a shout out.
     
    Ive been Busy with playing Darkfall and watching alot of episodes of the Shield while waiting for to play Darkfall. (there was a lot of waiting)
    No surprise to anyone the launch was a mess.
    U couldnt help but laugh at the invisible goblins ganging up on u while u where desperatly trying to guess where they where.
    Memories I will treasure forever. 
     
     
    Now thou the game is great, and so ill probably be playing it alot more and I dunno if ill be posting as much.
    Id like to give a shoutout to the trolls who kept this foum fun, they seem to be leaving now so hopefully I can get em one last time.
     
    To everyone who said it was Vapoware, to everyone who said it would fail, to everyone who said it was a scam, to everyone who said it was a clickfest, to everyone who said it was an empty world, to everyone who said the graphics where bad, to everyone who said noone would like it.
    And to everyone with completly ridiculous derogatory comments..
     
    You were wrong.
     
     
    Also a shoutout to all my partners in crime, who held the troll advance at bay leaving a few voices of reason to greet the many curious people who wandered in here with a genuine intention of looking at the game.
    I salute you.
     
     
    And to everyone who still cannot play the game, hang in there.
    U do not want the launch we had to go throu, and now u wont have to, AV is a small company with little money who has made a great thing, just give them time and they will deliver.
     
    -Darkstar                          
     
     
     
     
     
     

    You on crack buddy? LOL.

    Most people can't even buy the game or login at the moment.  It is still vaporware, until they fix their account issues and let the customers who want in, in.

    Having 5 or 6000 people manage to get in before the account server was closed does not mean the game is good and open for business.

    Let's wait and see before you go tell everyone they were wrong, because right now, 9 out of 10 people can't even try Darkfall.

     

     

     

    What a total troll post. Still vapourware?

    Sigh, i guess some people never grow up.

    Excuse me.

     

    This is NOT a troll post. I WANT to buy this game. I WANT to log in.

    But the fact is, it has NOT been released yet.

    That means, it is STILL vaporware because as of yet Aventurine has not delivered the goods to market.

    There is nothing trolling about this.

     

    Vapourware hahaha 

    Darkfall has been released.

    Its on the market, but the market has that Supply vs demand thing...

    Dont worry thou ull get it, AV is anything but fast, but they DO deliver.

     

     

    -Darkstar

     

     

     

     

  • Bruticus_XIBruticus_XI Member Posts: 827
    Originally posted by daarco


    The thing is that you always know when you have found a good game. Most people play a MMO because its new, not because its any special.
    And for those that knows in a split second that DF is a good game for them, will stay no matter what......as me for example. Its no secret i dont play MMOs with classes or levels, so i dont have that many to choose from anyway. If im lucky....Mortal Online and Earthrise will be out "soon".

    I think there are just those who've been waiting so long that they're blindly in love with Darkfall (most of the fanbots here). But I've seen the average person give reviews, and they say it's a decent game with a ton of potential. It's fun at the beginning but we've yet to see how long it really lasts...good things don't last forever, and AoC had great reviews at the beginning as well. Even if you (general, not you personally daarco) think Darkfall is a "good" game, you owe it to yourself to check out Earthrise and MO when they're out, if you're a true sandbox fan.

    The worst thing that could happen is if DF becomes the sandbox WoW, simply because it was released first...Tasos and Aventurine are so arrogant that I really don't want them, personally, to succeed. But if it's for the good of the genre, well, go Darkfall...

  • BigMangoBigMango Member UncommonPosts: 1,821
    Originally posted by Bruticus_XI


    and they say it's a decent game with a ton of potential.

     

    Ahhh ... potential... that's the scary word for an mmo. So many games had potential

    Let's hope for the best.

     

  • SpeiberbobSpeiberbob Member Posts: 233

    vapor vapor vapor?

     

    please!

    its good that people love this game for what it is, its bad that AV messes thíngs up

    and was and is that company you cant trust for what they are telling you...if thats casue they are an indi company and have bad luck or they just dont care about lieing. I dont care.

    TR was a game i praised high, but i didnt fool myself into thikin its the seconf messias of mmorpgs,

    adn in my eyes DFO has worse chances to be that.

    We will see, in a month or two.

    Regards have a good time , lets not get to worked up about a game ;)

     

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,060
    Originally posted by Raknar


    I think I'll wait a couple months and see how many people are still playing before I call  the game a success.

     

    The true voice of reason in this thread.

    Lets see how many of these folks are beating down the door of MO in the next year.

     

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  • gFizgFiz Member Posts: 153
    Originally posted by Darkstar111

    Originally posted by nastilon

    Originally posted by xTwiSteDx

    Originally posted by nastilon

    Originally posted by Darkstar111


     I heard from a guidly my name popped up in a few posts while ive been busy, so i thought id give everyone a shout out.
     
    Ive been Busy with playing Darkfall and watching alot of episodes of the Shield while waiting for to play Darkfall. (there was a lot of waiting)
    No surprise to anyone the launch was a mess.
    U couldnt help but laugh at the invisible goblins ganging up on u while u where desperatly trying to guess where they where.
    Memories I will treasure forever. 
     
     
    Now thou the game is great, and so ill probably be playing it alot more and I dunno if ill be posting as much.
    Id like to give a shoutout to the trolls who kept this foum fun, they seem to be leaving now so hopefully I can get em one last time.
     
    To everyone who said it was Vapoware, to everyone who said it would fail, to everyone who said it was a scam, to everyone who said it was a clickfest, to everyone who said it was an empty world, to everyone who said the graphics where bad, to everyone who said noone would like it.
    And to everyone with completly ridiculous derogatory comments..
     
    You were wrong.
     
     
    Also a shoutout to all my partners in crime, who held the troll advance at bay leaving a few voices of reason to greet the many curious people who wandered in here with a genuine intention of looking at the game.
    I salute you.
     
     
    And to everyone who still cannot play the game, hang in there.
    U do not want the launch we had to go throu, and now u wont have to, AV is a small company with little money who has made a great thing, just give them time and they will deliver.
     
    -Darkstar                          
     
     
     
     
     
     

    You on crack buddy? LOL.

    Most people can't even buy the game or login at the moment.  It is still vaporware, until they fix their account issues and let the customers who want in, in.

    Having 5 or 6000 people manage to get in before the account server was closed does not mean the game is good and open for business.

    Let's wait and see before you go tell everyone they were wrong, because right now, 9 out of 10 people can't even try Darkfall.

     

     

     

    What a total troll post. Still vapourware?

    Sigh, i guess some people never grow up.

    Excuse me.

     

    This is NOT a troll post. I WANT to buy this game. I WANT to log in.

    But the fact is, it has NOT been released yet.

    That means, it is STILL vaporware because as of yet Aventurine has not delivered the goods to market.

    There is nothing trolling about this.

     

    Vapourware hahaha 

    Darkfall has been released.

    Its on the market, but the market has that Supply vs demand thing...

    Dont worry thou ull get it, AV is anything but fast, but they DO deliver.

     

     

    -Darkstar

     

     

     

     



     

    I made an MMO then with twice the feature of DF.  Only me and a few people you dont' know can play though...but i declare my game the best MMO on the market right now!

  • dummenumsedummenumse Member Posts: 81
    Originally posted by Evasia


    Ok that was again a waste of time read this topic:(



     

    My subjective opinion: you are a fool.

     

    Like a few others (both sceptics and fans) darkstar has been here, giving input on the game, for some time now and having his concluding remarks does add something.

     

    Even the most infamous troll Zaxx, is playing darkfall now.

     

    I, like this guy, judge the game on its vision and actually love that a small company dare make a game that differs from the norm. And furthermore, according to quite alot of people, this is actually a really good game.

    If you want to hire Machete to kill the bad guys, you better make damn sure the bad guy isnt you!

  • lordwedgelylordwedgely Member Posts: 61

    "A fool and his money are soon parted." Thomas Tusser.

    Keep drinking the Kool-Aid, Captain Super Shill. It's not vaoprware but garbageware, expertly peddled by the one and only Tacos Flambé.

  • TheocritusTheocritus Member LegendaryPosts: 10,014

        yes Darkfall is so perfect....A whole 10000 people??...That has to be one of the biggest launches in history doesnt it??......Yes and that one server that is impressive........I can see why Darkstar defends this game with his very life.....Were glad you have found your "perfect" game Darkstar but I cant say we will miss your fanboi posts much......By the way how much was Aventurine paying you to come here and post??

  • SeytanSeytan Member Posts: 653
    Originally posted by Theocritus


        yes Darkfall is so perfect....A whole 10000 people??...That has to be one of the biggest launches in history doesnt it??......Yes and that one server that is impressive........I can see why Darkstar defends this game with his very life.....Were glad you have found your "perfect" game Darkstar but I cant say we will miss your fanboi posts much......By the way how much was Aventurine paying you to come here and post??



     

    lol! He was rabid, no question. Im so happy hes playing DF now however. BYE BYEZ!

     

  • dalevi1dalevi1 Member Posts: 829
    Originally posted by nastilon

    Originally posted by Darkstar111

    You on crack buddy? LOL.

    Most people can't even buy the game or login at the moment.  It is still vaporware, until they fix their account issues and let the customers who want in, in.

    Having 5 or 6000 people manage to get in before the account server was closed does not mean the game is good and open for business.

    Let's wait and see before you go tell everyone they were wrong, because right now, 9 out of 10 people can't even try Darkfall.

     

     

     

    Actually. It hasn't been "vapor" for two months. The quality of the game has been brought into serious question over the past week though. Not to mention the sign up/billiing/account system which is not in question, because the question has been answered, it sucks. The OP did bring up click fests and the like, and many of the reviews are stating it is a subjective click fest because you run the chance of hitting a friendly everytime you swing (since they keep jumping in front of you). For the rest of the post, I agree.

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  • TheGrueTheGrue Member Posts: 38

    Ok not to de-rail this, but people putting Vaporware in their posts is starting to give me a /facepalm headache so here we go:

    This game is not Vaporware, Vaporware is a game or other piece of software that while advertised and hyped  does not come out, this game is sold (getting a copy now or not makes no difference) people bought it, they own it, they play it.....not Vaporware.

     

    http://knowledgerush.com/kr/encyclopedia/Vaporware/

     

    "Vaporware is software that is preannounced by a developer, but never emerges as an actual product. The term implies deception; that is, it implies that the announcer knows that product development is in too early a stage to support responsible statements about its completion date, feature set, or even feasibility".

    While Tasos may be guilty of some of this, the bottom line is that it is out and playable, hence not Vaporware....saying that not getting a copy constitutes this as Vaporware is invalid, that's like saying that Mario 64 was Vaporware simply because people had a hard time getting it during the Nintendo 64 release.

     

  • damian7damian7 Member Posts: 4,449
    Originally posted by Darkstar111


     I heard from a guidly my name popped up in a few posts while ive been busy, so i thought id give everyone a shout out.
     
    Ive been Busy with playing Darkfall and watching alot of episodes of the Shield while waiting for to play Darkfall. (there was a lot of waiting)
    No surprise to anyone the launch was a mess.
    U couldnt help but laugh at the invisible goblins ganging up on u while u where desperatly trying to guess where they where.
    Memories I will treasure forever. 
     
     
    Now thou the game is great, and so ill probably be playing it alot more and I dunno if ill be posting as much.
    Id like to give a shoutout to the trolls who kept this foum fun, they seem to be leaving now so hopefully I can get em one last time.
     
    To everyone who said it was Vapoware, to everyone who said it would fail, to everyone who said it was a scam, to everyone who said it was a clickfest, to everyone who said it was an empty world, to everyone who said the graphics where bad, to everyone who said noone would like it.
    And to everyone with completly ridiculous derogatory comments..
     
    You were wrong.
     
     
    Also a shoutout to all my partners in crime, who held the troll advance at bay leaving a few voices of reason to greet the many curious people who wandered in here with a genuine intention of looking at the game.
    I salute you.
     
     
    And to everyone who still cannot play the game, hang in there.
    U do not want the launch we had to go throu, and now u wont have to, AV is a small company with little money who has made a great thing, just give them time and they will deliver.
     
    -Darkstar                          
     
     
     
     
     
     



     

     

    first off... who are you?  are you supposed to be someone whose name i recognize?

     

    second off... if you use words correctly, people will think you're intelligent.

     

    vaporware, for instance.

    Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product. The term implies unwarranted optimism, an as yet unannounced abandonment of a project, or sometimes even deception; that is, it may imply that the announcer knows that product development is in too early a stage to support responsible statements about its completion date, feature set, or even feasibility. However, most vaporware would not be considered a hoax since the makers have a genuine intention to create their product, even if it ultimately never materializes. Products with unspecified release dates or long development times that outwardly demonstrate regular, verifiable progress in production are not normally labelled vaporware.

     

     

    [edit] Falls short of expectations

    This category refers particularly to products that may not be inherently flawed or defective, but rather fail to fulfill the high expectations of the consumers who have been subjected to aggressive marketing campaigns and constant hype from either the company itself or the media who reported about it in the period leading to release. Delays on such products have been known to inflate to months and even years, creating often unrealistic expectations of the final version once it eventually reaches store shelves.

    The biggest example of this is the computer game Daikatana, which was announced in 1997 but did not ship until 2000. Many who had waited felt the gameplay was disappointing. Ultima IX was released to savage reviews in 1999, due to numerous bugs, unbalanced gameplay and high system requirements.

     

     

     

    for someone whom made an account a couple of weeks ago, and think everyone should know who you are... at least get that one term straight... and um, good luck in becoming popular so people know who you are?

    could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?

  • damian7damian7 Member Posts: 4,449
    Originally posted by TheGrue


    Ok not to de-rail this, but people putting Vaporware in their posts is starting to give me a /facepalm headache so here we go:
    This game is not Vaporware, Vaporware is a game or other piece of software that while advertised and hyped  does not come out, this game is sold (getting a copy now or not makes no difference) people bought it, they own it, they play it.....not Vaporware.
     
    http://knowledgerush.com/kr/encyclopedia/Vaporware/
     
    "Vaporware is software that is preannounced by a developer, but never emerges as an actual product. The term implies deception; that is, it implies that the announcer knows that product development is in too early a stage to support responsible statements about its completion date, feature set, or even feasibility".
    While Tasos may be guilty of some of this, the bottom line is that it is out and playable, hence not Vaporware....saying that not getting a copy constitutes this as Vaporware is invalid, that's like saying that Mario 64 was Vaporware simply because people had a hard time getting it during the Nintendo 64 release.
     

     

     

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware

     

     

    there's quite a number of definitions for vaporware.  that's fine if you pick one definition which doesn't apply; but don't ignore the other definitions which definitely do apply... learn what the term means and use it correctly.

     

     

    could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?

  • Bruticus_XIBruticus_XI Member Posts: 827
    Originally posted by damian7

    Originally posted by Darkstar111


     I heard from a guidly my name popped up in a few posts while ive been busy, so i thought id give everyone a shout out.
     
    Ive been Busy with playing Darkfall and watching alot of episodes of the Shield while waiting for to play Darkfall. (there was a lot of waiting)
    No surprise to anyone the launch was a mess.
    U couldnt help but laugh at the invisible goblins ganging up on u while u where desperatly trying to guess where they where.
    Memories I will treasure forever. 
     
     
    Now thou the game is great, and so ill probably be playing it alot more and I dunno if ill be posting as much.
    Id like to give a shoutout to the trolls who kept this foum fun, they seem to be leaving now so hopefully I can get em one last time.
     
    To everyone who said it was Vapoware, to everyone who said it would fail, to everyone who said it was a scam, to everyone who said it was a clickfest, to everyone who said it was an empty world, to everyone who said the graphics where bad, to everyone who said noone would like it.
    And to everyone with completly ridiculous derogatory comments..
     
    You were wrong.
     
     
    Also a shoutout to all my partners in crime, who held the troll advance at bay leaving a few voices of reason to greet the many curious people who wandered in here with a genuine intention of looking at the game.
    I salute you.
     
     
    And to everyone who still cannot play the game, hang in there.
    U do not want the launch we had to go throu, and now u wont have to, AV is a small company with little money who has made a great thing, just give them time and they will deliver.
     
    -Darkstar                          
     
     
     
     
     
     



     

     

    first off... who are you?  are you supposed to be someone whose name i recognize?

     

    second off... if you use words correctly, people will think you're intelligent.

     

    vaporware, for instance.

    Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product. The term implies unwarranted optimism, an as yet unannounced abandonment of a project, or sometimes even deception; that is, it may imply that the announcer knows that product development is in too early a stage to support responsible statements about its completion date, feature set, or even feasibility. However, most vaporware would not be considered a hoax since the makers have a genuine intention to create their product, even if it ultimately never materializes. Products with unspecified release dates or long development times that outwardly demonstrate regular, verifiable progress in production are not normally labelled vaporware.

     

     

    [edit] Falls short of expectations

    This category refers particularly to products that may not be inherently flawed or defective, but rather fail to fulfill the high expectations of the consumers who have been subjected to aggressive marketing campaigns and constant hype from either the company itself or the media who reported about it in the period leading to release. Delays on such products have been known to inflate to months and even years, creating often unrealistic expectations of the final version once it eventually reaches store shelves.

    The biggest example of this is the computer game Daikatana, which was announced in 1997 but did not ship until 2000. Many who had waited felt the gameplay was disappointing. Ultima IX was released to savage reviews in 1999, due to numerous bugs, unbalanced gameplay and high system requirements.

     

     

     

    for someone whom made an account a couple of weeks ago, and think everyone should know who you are... at least get that one term straight... and um, good luck in becoming popular so people know who you are?

    He's part of the R.F.S., the Rabid Fanbot Squad. Where have you been for the entire month?

  • XzenXzen Member UncommonPosts: 2,607
    Originally posted by Darkstar111


     I heard from a guidly my name popped up in a few posts while ive been busy, so i thought id give everyone a shout out.
     
    Ive been Busy with playing Darkfall and watching alot of episodes of the Shield while waiting for to play Darkfall. (there was a lot of waiting)
    No surprise to anyone the launch was a mess.
    U couldnt help but laugh at the invisible goblins ganging up on u while u where desperatly trying to guess where they where.
    Memories I will treasure forever. 
     
     
    Now thou the game is great, and so ill probably be playing it alot more and I dunno if ill be posting as much.
    Id like to give a shoutout to the trolls who kept this foum fun, they seem to be leaving now so hopefully I can get em one last time.
     
    To everyone who said it was Vapoware, to everyone who said it would fail, to everyone who said it was a scam, to everyone who said it was a clickfest, to everyone who said it was an empty world, to everyone who said the graphics where bad, to everyone who said noone would like it.
    And to everyone with completly ridiculous derogatory comments..
     
    You were wrong.
     
     
    Also a shoutout to all my partners in crime, who held the troll advance at bay leaving a few voices of reason to greet the many curious people who wandered in here with a genuine intention of looking at the game.
    I salute you.
     
     
    And to everyone who still cannot play the game, hang in there.
    U do not want the launch we had to go throu, and now u wont have to, AV is a small company with little money who has made a great thing, just give them time and they will deliver.
     
    -Darkstar                          
     
     
     
     
     
     

     

    All I can say is you are playing a closed beta that you paid to get into. Let's see. They let in a very limited number of users and took your money. They then told everyone else that wants to try it out that sales are not available because they need to resolve some issues with their servers and the billing system is messed up. I want to play this game too but I'm still going to call it like I see it.

  • TheGrueTheGrue Member Posts: 38
    Originally posted by damian7

    Originally posted by TheGrue


    Ok not to de-rail this, but people putting Vaporware in their posts is starting to give me a /facepalm headache so here we go:
    This game is not Vaporware, Vaporware is a game or other piece of software that while advertised and hyped  does not come out, this game is sold (getting a copy now or not makes no difference) people bought it, they own it, they play it.....not Vaporware.
     
    http://knowledgerush.com/kr/encyclopedia/Vaporware/
     
    "Vaporware is software that is preannounced by a developer, but never emerges as an actual product. The term implies deception; that is, it implies that the announcer knows that product development is in too early a stage to support responsible statements about its completion date, feature set, or even feasibility".
    While Tasos may be guilty of some of this, the bottom line is that it is out and playable, hence not Vaporware....saying that not getting a copy constitutes this as Vaporware is invalid, that's like saying that Mario 64 was Vaporware simply because people had a hard time getting it during the Nintendo 64 release.
     

     

     

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware

     

     

    there's quite a number of definitions for vaporware.  that's fine if you pick one definition which doesn't apply; but don't ignore the other definitions which definitely do apply... learn what the term means and use it correctly.

     

     



     

     So by your post you believe that the meaning of Vaporware on Wikipedia is correct and the rest wrong? i feel anotner /facepalm headache coming on.

     Using Wikipedia as a source for anything is a mistake friend, it's right about half the time and even that's debatable considering anybody can waltz in and change it to suit their own view.

    Vaporware defined by knowledgebrush is valid, if you choose to not accept it as such because it doesn't fall into what you want it too, well that's fine...illogical but fine, i'll give other examples

    http://dictionary.infoplease.com/vaporware

    va•por•ware



    Pronunciation: (v?'pur-wâr"), [key]

    —n.

    Computer Jargon.a product, esp. software, that is promoted or marketed while it is still in development and that may never be produced.

    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/vaporware



    Pronunciation: ?v?-p?r-?wer

    Function: noun

    Date: 1984

    : a computer-related product that has been widely advertised but has not and may never become available

     

    http://www.yourdictionary.com/vaporware

    a commercial software product that has received much advance promotion but whose ultimate appearance on the market has become doubtful because of continual delays

     

    I don't think i need to go on especially when all three examples say the same thing, but by all means keep using wiki as a credible sourse of information and i'll use the one's that actually are a credible source of information.

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