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  • IcoGamesIcoGames Member Posts: 2,360
    Originally posted by Rhoklaw

    Originally posted by Hydroblunt

    Originally posted by kingtommyboy


    I started with wow i think 3 months after it was released in Europe. I've seen the glorious days of the original wow and the, in my opinion, less glorious day's with TBC. I quited with wow for more than a year now. I have to say I played a bid on some private servers with a friend.. but that just sucks...
    In the meanwhile I also played LOTRO for a little while and I played EVE for like a month, and looooooooots of f2p's.. Yes I had some fun, but not like I used to in wow..
    Now I decided to go back to wow. I was first thinking of going back to LOTRO but because a few of my friends are still in wow I will go back to them.
    I also heard a lot of possitive things about WOTLK!
    I heard wow is just to easy, but I don't care. I can me remember the days of the hardcore raiders to MC or BWL.. ect.. and I don't have time for that anny more in RL, I'm just looking for a game that I can play casual with a few friend.
    But, what's WOTLK like? Is it fun? is it really to easy? how is the pvp now? does it makes wow better? just tell me a bid about it! :)
    tnx!



     

    WotLK is a failed Xpac that clearly marks the downturn & end of WoW.  TBC was tolerable, although vanilla WoW was the best.  WoW has reach its zenith over a year ago.  Blizzard should have worked off the vanilla WoW content & concepts, fixing up key issues, before making a full Xpac.

    I gave up on WoW after patch 3.0.  I was having fun prior with a good guild, doing raids, BGs, lolArena, etc.  Patch 3.0 killed all that with horrific downtimes, lag, server crashes and minimal support.  I canceled my pre-order for WotLK, as I did not care much for an Xpac anyway and that failed patch sealed the deal.  Most of my guild is MIA two months into Xpac.  I only know this because of my friend who had the expansion and a gamecard till mid Feb.  We both been playing WAR since December, having a blast.

    WotLK aims toward retarded players.  I'm not kidding.  It's not about casual versus hardcore, it's about bad players who even if they played 8 hours a day would still accomplish less than good players who played 3 hours a day.  There is little challenge left and little new content.  Just more linear dungeons, raids, a desperate attempt to force Arena, one new BG and, that's it.  Achievements (stolen from WAR) are not new content.

    The game is finished.  Blizzard is moving staff into their new MMO.  Most of the players left are morons who roll DeathTards.  They won't play much longer, they never stick to any game.  New content in 3.1 will last another two months before everyone gets bored again.

    I would go back if I got tired of WAR, but why?  The game I was enjoying is gone.  The vanilla WoW I never got to fully experience is long gone.  Oh well, plenty of other MMOs out there which are better than the current WoW in many ways.



     

    I agree WoW is easy, but thats why its so popular. I'm not saying I play WoW cause it's easy, but I do play WoW cause the servers actually have a population. So, to make a long story short, if DAoC servers had WoW size populations, I would never have left that game.

    Dead Servers = Dead Games

    What qualifies a server as dead? I'd say less than 1k simultaneous players at peak times. Most games support between 3-5k players, so if your playing a game with less than that, your scraping the bottom of the barrel.

     

    Yeah I've read any number of complaints (most valid), but population isn't one of them.  Typically when new players ask for recommendations you'll see  a myriad of post suggesting new or lower population servers.

    A couple of  weeks ago I went to Goldshire looking for the Dark Moon Faire (hadn't noticed the nice calendar event telling me exactly where it was at the time lol).  I was surprised to see players milling around and doing quests.

     

    Either way, I'm not sure why folks like Hydroblunt are so worked up ...

    Ico
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  • mentalynutsmentalynuts Member Posts: 80

    Sadly wow is still the best mmorpg as nothing can compete with its numbers.

    Gamers are getting lazy and the industry is not helping at all as they want to give people everything easy to get them hooked on the game.Blizz have realised this and made the game a lot more casual.Sadly the hardcore gamer is a dieing breed as no mmorpg wants to make a game for the hardcore anymore.

     

    WoW will never be beaten in the best mmorpg catogory., untill a game developer comes out grows some balls and makes a great mmorpg for hardcore gamers thats when wow will be beaten the reason for this is when casual gamers see all hardcore gamers flock to a new game they will follow.

     

    After playing wow for 3 years (I quit 1 month ago) it has slowly gone downhill in my eyes is has become boring and stale and they are not adding anythign new rearly and anything new they add in they steal the ideas of other games or just recicle the old formulars.

    Im even considering going back to wow the reason being is nothing new coming out that hasent been done before.

     

    P.S sorry for bad english not my native launguage

  • kingtommyboykingtommyboy Member Posts: 543

    So I started with wow again

    I logged in, and the first thing I saw was a lvl 80 dead knight, the second thing to, ... :o

    hehe ^^ deadknights are quite fun to play I also tried with one.

    But my main goal is to get my shaman to 80 :) I already did some quests and I'm having a blast :D !

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  • vinzonevinzone Member UncommonPosts: 255
    Originally posted by kingtommyboy


    So I started with wow again
    I logged in, and the first thing I saw was a lvl 80 dead knight, the second thing to, ... :o
    hehe ^^ deadknights are quite fun to play I also tried with one.
    But my main goal is to get my shaman to 80 :) I already did some quests and I'm having a blast :D !

     

    What spec is your shaman? I got a lvl 80 enhancement shaman that is really fun to play and does good dps, but ele and resto shamans are also still good

  • kingtommyboykingtommyboy Member Posts: 543
    Originally posted by vinzone

    Originally posted by kingtommyboy


    So I started with wow again
    I logged in, and the first thing I saw was a lvl 80 dead knight, the second thing to, ... :o
    hehe ^^ deadknights are quite fun to play I also tried with one.
    But my main goal is to get my shaman to 80 :) I already did some quests and I'm having a blast :D !

     

    What spec is your shaman? I got a lvl 80 enhancement shaman that is really fun to play and does good dps, but ele and resto shamans are also still good

     

    Well I used to be enhancement. But now i'm ele, there has been a talent reset last year.. and I din't play for a long time! But I'm gonna respec again, I don't like ele, I go back to enhancement I think ^^

    I enjoy my time!

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  • vinzonevinzone Member UncommonPosts: 255
    Originally posted by kingtommyboy

    Originally posted by vinzone

    Originally posted by kingtommyboy

     

    Well I used to be enhancement. But now i'm ele, there has been a talent reset last year.. and I din't play for a long time! But I'm gonna respec again, I don't like ele, I go back to enhancement I think ^^

    I enjoy my time!

     

    Nice I thought enhancement shamans were a hell of a lot more fun to play after WoTLK, here is my shaman www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml He's decent, nothing amazing though.

  • IceiceIceice Member Posts: 54

    I played a Holy Paladin for three years,nothing but heal heal heal. (I love it for some reason)

    I then played a friends Resto Shaman for a raid once during Archimond, chain heal omg, I rerolled that day and never looked back

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  • kingtommyboykingtommyboy Member Posts: 543

    I'm leveling up my shammy now

    I respeced to enhancement, I just love that spec!

    WOTLK is great!! mush better than TBC in my opinion

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  • GenoknightGenoknight Member Posts: 156
    Originally posted by Zayne3145



    You'll hear people moan that it's carebear/ezmode/welfare epics or whatever, but the fact of the matter is that it's just a game, and all that counts is whether you are enjoying yourself

    That's exactly why all the active players are pissed, theirs no reason to play as much because a bunch of 80's in blue gear can tackle Naxx on their first attempt...

    I'm not saying that  I think its a bad idea Blizzard is catering to casuals, but the people who bust their --- raiding should have better gear then the rest of us. I currently don't raid, but I still think its BS that everyone can clear content as fast as they did.

     

    Also, to the OP. I just started an RAF with a friend, and i'm too currently leveling a shaman, and its beastly lol

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  • herculeshercules Member UncommonPosts: 4,925

    Hi i recently due to work have been spending 5 days a week away from my house and play on a laptop which is not so powerful so i decided to play fresh on a wow server which is 1 month old and see.

    tbh i spoke with many people and really yes wow is now easier (it was easier before) but heck its still fun and levelling a new character is so much fun .

    it is just a game and tbh with my phd studies a full time job and a wife ,thank god for that.i love i now.i have no time for raids and just want to have 1 -2 hrs a day fun is all!

  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441

    I wish I had a buck for every thread like this.

    But good luck OP, if you like Wow best you should play it. I think you should do some trials of other games before deciding since you left in the first place but it's your call of course.

  • OrthedosOrthedos Member Posts: 1,771
    Originally posted by Itachi54

    Originally posted by Zayne3145



    You'll hear people moan that it's carebear/ezmode/welfare epics or whatever, but the fact of the matter is that it's just a game, and all that counts is whether you are enjoying yourself

    That's exactly why all the active players are pissed, theirs no reason to play as much because a bunch of 80's in blue gear can tackle Naxx on their first attempt...

    I'm not saying that  I think its a bad idea Blizzard is catering to casuals, but the people who bust their --- raiding should have better gear then the rest of us. I currently don't raid, but I still think its BS that everyone can clear content as fast as they did.

     

    Also, to the OP. I just started an RAF with a friend, and i'm too currently leveling a shaman, and its beastly lol



     

    There is no reason to play because a bunch of 80s in blue gear can tackle Naxx on their first attempt.

    First why is there no reason to play?  What do you need to be a prior condition for playing?

    Second you mean to say a random selection of some lvl 80s in blue gear can tackle naxx, tackle as in clearing naxx?  This is bullshit.  Unless the bunch are experienced, who knows the fight and already cleared it, then maybe they can survive somehow down the road.  If you are new to naxx, you won't even survive the trash during the first few tries.  With the average blue gear, your frost resist will be too low for some of the bosses.  Your hit rating will be too low to MC the adds to tank the instructor.  You will have no idea how to do the dance fight, to hide behind the frozen iceblock against Sapp.  Yes every 80 can zone in, but without a coordinated plan and vent, you will wipe fast.

    Raids must be setup for the elite epic wearing ppl?  I would say that is too elitist.  Everybody pays the same price for a sub.  Different playing style should not penalised.  I do not see why WoW in providing some content for those players with less time on hand, is dumbing down the game.  If you want challenges you can try 25man naxx with 21, 19 or 17 players.  You can try solo 5 man non heroic (don't try to solo a 5man heroic, unless its 10 lvls lower).  If you want challenge you can go into an instance with your blue gear and leave your epic gear in the bank.  You do not need to do those easier ones, and feel upset.  Those easier ones are for those who do not want as much challenge when all they want is a wind-down in a game.  Why must your taste dictate the entire game?

  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441
    Originally posted by Orthedos
    There is no reason to play because a bunch of 80s in blue gear can tackle Naxx on their first attempt.
    First why is there no reason to play?  What do you need to be a prior condition for playing?
    Second you mean to say a random selection of some lvl 80s in blue gear can tackle naxx, tackle as in clearing naxx?  This is bullshit.  Unless the bunch are experienced, who knows the fight and already cleared it, then maybe they can survive somehow down the road.  If you are new to naxx, you won't even survive the trash during the first few tries.  With the average blue gear, your frost resist will be too low for some of the bosses.  Your hit rating will be too low to MC the adds to tank the instructor.  You will have no idea how to do the dance fight, to hide behind the frozen iceblock against Sapp.  Yes every 80 can zone in, but without a coordinated plan and vent, you will wipe fast.
    Raids must be setup for the elite epic wearing ppl?  I would say that is too elitist.  Everybody pays the same price for a sub.  Different playing style should not penalised.  I do not see why WoW in providing some content for those players with less time on hand, is dumbing down the game.  If you want challenges you can try 25man naxx with 21, 19 or 17 players.  You can try solo 5 man non heroic (don't try to solo a 5man heroic, unless its 10 lvls lower).  If you want challenge you can go into an instance with your blue gear and leave your epic gear in the bank.  You do not need to do those easier ones, and feel upset.  Those easier ones are for those who do not want as much challenge when all they want is a wind-down in a game.  Why must your taste dictate the entire game?

     

    I think he means that he thinks the game is too easy for him now. Not so strange, different people want different kind of gameplay and without a few really hard instances some players will quit. The gameplay is easier now than before.

    Some players like "elitist" gameplay, not really anything wrong with that and while that shouldn't affect the whole game Blizz could well throw in some more bones for the players that want hardcore gameplay.

  • HydrobluntHydroblunt Member Posts: 282
    Originally posted by Zorndorf


    I bet my ass the very easy VOA instance is by far being played the most. So for 90% of the people this mode is preferred.
    Also the final Raid achievement ("The Raider") is still WAY under 1% of accomplishment by the Raiding public.
    If some players like to be "elitist" there is only one way to show it:  go for those titles, mounts and achievements in the Raids.
    Everyone sees the content but only  few can have the "prestigious end Raid stuff".
    You can't  consider yourself elite if half of the achievements Raid list stays blanc in your armory.
    That's why the discussions on the official Wow forums are far more acceptable these days. A LOT less bragging and lies thrown around.

     

    I know this is a complicated concept for you and others like you, after all, if you understood, why would you be playing WoW anymore.  But let me try to explain.

    It's called CHALLENGE.  The actual raiding process should be challenging.  While I am not in favor of 40 man Molten Core runs in vanilla WoW, I do appreciate the fact that it required coordination, preparation, focus & time.  MMORPGs are not just games, their appeal is the depth & dedication involved in the game.  On the other side of the spectrum you have button mashing console games.  Both are fun, one is simple-minded the other is engrossing.

    Since Blizzard is obsessed with being the biggest MMO, it has ruined their original game.  Bigger does not equal better.  McDonalds is a perfect example of that.  The problem with WoW is that it has fallen into a pattern of "lower the standards:, because god forbid some semi-retarded player cries about the fact that he can't raid cause raid groups don't want to take him.  His gear is inadequate and he makes no attempt to upgrade it.  He refuses to learn how to control his aggro & learn basic directions even for trash, let alone boss fights.

    Hence, you have WotLK and the new retard-proof WoW.  Is your ADD preventing you from properly doing CC on trash pulls?  No problem, just let the Tank do AoE tanking.  Don't want to make sure your gear is even semi-updated for 5-mans?  No problem, the difficulty is rock bottom.  Don't like wiping in heroics?  No problem, let's make the difficulty of what normal used to be.  Don't like having to prepare for raids?  No problem, gear requirements are the lowest they have ever been.  Don't like having to deal with classes that have weaknesses?  Just roll a  DeathKnight.  Are you getting confused by the intricate differences among the Tank, Healing & DPS classes?  No more worries, they have all been homogenized into basic generic Tank, Heals, DPS.

    And then there is WoW PvP, a complete joke.

    Then you guys wonder why the community and players have taken a serious plunge in quality.  What do you expect when your design the game to attract retards.

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  • URNotMegaURNotMega Member CommonPosts: 115

    People who play this genre for any significant amount of time tend to blow things way out of proportion.  If you start playing a game, and don't enjoy it... grats, you've made an opinion!  If you play a game for years and expect it to be as good as your rose colored glasses suggest the old game was, you're just being delusional.  Hell, if you play a game for years in general, I would consider that a GOOD game.  Games are supposed to get boring eventually.  Most games I play only last 5-40 hours, depending on the genre.  The only game lately that has gone above 40 hours is street fighter 4, and I play everything I can get my hands on.  If you've clocked hundreds or thousands of hours in WoW and stuck around to talk about how bad it is, you need to step back and figure out why you wasted so much time in a game you hate.  Chances are you don't hate it though, you just got bored, and that's natural (or we'd all still be playing the first great games we experienced).

    As for responding to the OP... I personally thought WotLK was amazing fun.  I quit about 6-8 months before WotLK came out, started playing again when it was released, and 70-80 was just so fun.  Then I hit 80 and did a bit of end game, bit of alt leveling, and after a few months I got bored and moved on (tried AoC, WAR, LotR, non hooked me).  Now it's 3-4 months later and I think I might jump back on to have some fun for a bit.

    I highly recommend anyone who wants to have some fun and has a character waiting at 70 to grab the xpack and play for a bit.  Anyone who hasn't played wow in the first place should also try it out.  Anyone who just dislikes the game, well WotLK doesn't offer anything that will change your mind.

  • SonofSethSonofSeth Member UncommonPosts: 1,884

     If someone isn't enjoying the journey, he likely won't enjoy the end game either. It's just that someone shouldn't pass judgement on things he didn't expirience.

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  • tinywulftinywulf Member Posts: 106

    People digest content faster in WoW and Blizzard should know that by now, this is by far the least amount of content.  It's too easy, the raiding is all watered down, they watered down all the classes now.

     

    Too bad Lotro doesn't have a larger population because at least Turbine knows how to release content.

    Hell there is F2P's now releasing content faster than Blizzard.

     

    They make so much money and no content, such a waste.

    Maybe we need to bail out Blizzard? lawl.

  • grandpagamergrandpagamer Member Posts: 2,221
    Originally posted by URNotMega


    People who play this genre for any significant amount of time tend to blow things way out of proportion.  If you start playing a game, and don't enjoy it... grats, you've made an opinion!  If you play a game for years and expect it to be as good as your rose colored glasses suggest the old game was, you're just being delusional.  Hell, if you play a game for years in general, I would consider that a GOOD game.  Games are supposed to get boring eventually.  Most games I play only last 5-40 hours, depending on the genre.  The only game lately that has gone above 40 hours is street fighter 4, and I play everything I can get my hands on.  If you've clocked hundreds or thousands of hours in WoW and stuck around to talk about how bad it is, you need to step back and figure out why you wasted so much time in a game you hate.  Chances are you don't hate it though, you just got bored, and that's natural (or we'd all still be playing the first great games we experienced).
    As for responding to the OP... I personally thought WotLK was amazing fun.  I quit about 6-8 months before WotLK came out, started playing again when it was released, and 70-80 was just so fun.  Then I hit 80 and did a bit of end game, bit of alt leveling, and after a few months I got bored and moved on (tried AoC, WAR, LotR, non hooked me).  Now it's 3-4 months later and I think I might jump back on to have some fun for a bit.
    I highly recommend anyone who wants to have some fun and has a character waiting at 70 to grab the xpack and play for a bit.  Anyone who hasn't played wow in the first place should also try it out.  Anyone who just dislikes the game, well WotLK doesn't offer anything that will change your mind.

    I agree. I did the same thing. Quit a few months before WOTLK released then came back a month or so ago. It is a much better xpac than BC. I would have liked to see a couple new classes and or races added though and i think the lack of them may hurt the game in the end. I have a mage ive leveled from around 64 or so since WOTLK and Outland is dead and there really is no reason to get rep from any of the factions there as the greens in Northrend are better than what you can get from the rep in Outland. So getting a new toon to 68 or so would be a bit boring i think. Good xpac yes but nothing for new players.

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