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Interesting Editorial:

Shard101Shard101 Member UncommonPosts: 479

http://vault.ign.com/View.php?view=editorials.detail&id=221

 

 

*Just a sample of it. Read the whole thing at the link above.*

 

 

 

"Which brings us to February 25th, 2009. The world must be coming to an end because after years of delays, Darkfall launched. At least, Darkfall was supposed to launch on the 25th but supposedly a major bug was discovered necessitating a patch and hence a 12 hour delay. When the server (yes, server) went live a syncing issue wreaked havoc across the game, with players not able to see the mobs attacking them, and which also allowed players to take advantage of various exploits and farm riches and gear that otherwise would not have been possible to obtain at this stage of the game. Cries of server rollbacks are prevalent on the forums. It will be interesting to see how Adventurine handles this issue.

Darkfall's launch was to be extremely unconventional in the traditional sense. But why launch a game that really did not follow the traditional development path with a traditional launch? Approximately February 19th preorders opened up. The massive volume of hits to the site pretty much broke the systems in place and Adventurine had to take the preorder sales link down. In the days between the preorder date and launch, there were apparently small windows of time where people managed to get in and secure a preorder for the February 25th launch. From reading various forums, including the Official Darkfall Forums, it appears a rather large percentage of customers who wanted to get in on launch day are out of luck, as Account system issues are still prevalent and performance issues are being addressed. Reactions on the web vary from seething finger pointing at the developer to the championing of Adventurine for wanting to resolve all major issues prior to letting any more players in game. Unfortunately some customers who claim they have had successful preorder experiences claim they still cannot get authorization to play in game. It would be really interesting to know how many potential customers are out there for Darkfall. We will probably never know, but the heavy traffic since preorders went live seems to suggest a healthy (though probably a niche) fanbase for Darkfall is out there.

Any way you look at it, the launch of Darkfall has been as controversial as the game's development history. From account issues, preorder issues, client issues, forum outages, exploits and what some consider a lack of communication from the developers on the state of the game, Darkfall has had anything but a smooth launch. However, despite what many would consider to be game breaking (and game killing) issues, there are many people who are defending Adventurine's handling of launch setbacks and continue to swear allegiance to the game. Fans of the game are triumphing the developer for what they have accomplished as an independent studio, and there is no lack of love for Darkfall by many who have experienced the game in beta, as well as those who were one of the few that were able to secure a preorder and play the 30 or so hours the server has been up since launch (as of this writing, not official data). Although Darkfall may not be a leader graphically, or have the polish of corporate MMOs, the core of the gameplay is what fans of this game are gushing over. In the end, the forums are buzzing with talk of Darkfall both good and bad, and I would argue that this is a good omen for Adventurine and their project. It means people care. And when people care about your product, you have a chance to be successful."

The Good

- Seamless, large and apparently beautiful game world

- Skill based system, no traditional MMO levels

- No restrictive Class system

- Rafts, boats, naval combat, how cool is that?!

- Elder Scrolls-like first person combat

- Ability to loot corpses and take everything on player

- Mounted combat (may not be in present build)

- Unrestricted PvP

 

The Bad

- You can't buy the game as of this writing

- Customer service has yet to deal with many frustrated preorder customers who can't get in game

- Indy dev, low budget title, not as polished as many have become accustomed to

- Sync issues (somewhat resolved according to what I've read) allowing for exploits, making game difficult to play at best for some

- Main Darkfallonline.com site does not reflect state of game, still reflects old information and news, just kind of bizarre

- Some expected content does not appear to be in at launch

- Some report game world looks great but does not feel alive

- Exploits and macros in droves(dupes,packet sniffing and speedhacks)

- Due to length of game development, Darkfall does not boast latest technical bells and whistles

 

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Comments

  • KasmosKasmos Member UncommonPosts: 593

    Considering he hasn't played a second in-game, take this "editorial" with the smallest grain of salt.

    Plus, he spells "Aventurine" , "Adventurine".... hahaha.

  • gamerman98gamerman98 Member UncommonPosts: 809

    It lost any credibility when I seen who wrote it.

  • Shard101Shard101 Member UncommonPosts: 479
    Originally posted by Kasmos


    Considering he hasn't played a second in-game, take this "editorial" with the smallest grain of salt.
    Plus, he spells "Aventurine" , "Adventurine".... hahaha.



     

    NDA  has been lifted and the truth is out there. Theres no shroud of mystery you fanbois can hide behind and say "you are not playing it how would you know?"

    People know how it really is because non fanbois that are playing are putting it on the web and telling everyone and their brother.

     

    The truth is : The game is in shambles and falling apart and the noob dev team doesn't even know that php is the worst code or format to use for websites under a load.

     

    Must we go on?

  • KasmosKasmos Member UncommonPosts: 593
    Originally posted by Shard101

    Originally posted by Kasmos


    Considering he hasn't played a second in-game, take this "editorial" with the smallest grain of salt.
    Plus, he spells "Aventurine" , "Adventurine".... hahaha.



     

    NDA  has been lifted and the truth is out there. Theres no shroud of mystery you fanbois can hide behind and say "you are not playing it how would you know?"

    People know how it really is because non fanbois that are playing are putting it on the web and telling everyone and their brother.

     

    Yet surprisingly the majority of people playing it, like myself, think that's it's great. Funny, isn't it?

  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,057
    Originally posted by Kasmos


    Considering he hasn't played a second in-game, take this "editorial" with the smallest grain of salt.
    Plus, he spells "Aventurine" , "Adventurine".... hahaha.

    You are correct, he forgot the proper color shading.  I fixed them up for you.

    His write up is very accurate as on observer of what went on since launch, and its the same perception that I have for the most part.

    Sure, once we get in the game we'll know differently, but whose fault is it that we can't get in to see?

     

     

     

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  • rhinokrhinok Member UncommonPosts: 1,798
    Originally posted by Kasmos


    Considering he hasn't played a second in-game, take this "editorial" with the smallest grain of salt.
    Plus, he spells "Aventurine" , "Adventurine".... hahaha.

    I don't ' understand what your problem is with his article:

    1. He explicitly states it's an editorial (an opinion piece), not a review.
    2. He speaks passionately about wanting to be able to buy and play Darkfall
    3. His points about the launch are correct - it didn't go well, but things seem to be getting better
    4. His "Good" and "Bad" points, while subjective, appear to be pretty accurate

    So, what's your beef?

    ~Ripper

  • gamerman98gamerman98 Member UncommonPosts: 809


    Originally posted by Kasmos
    Originally posted by Shard101
    Originally posted by Kasmos Considering he hasn't played a second in-game, take this "editorial" with the smallest grain of salt.
    Plus, he spells "Aventurine" , "Adventurine".... hahaha.

     
    NDA  has been lifted and the truth is out there. Theres no shroud of mystery you fanbois can hide behind and say "you are not playing it how would you know?"
    People know how it really is because non fanbois that are playing are putting it on the web and telling everyone and their brother.



     
    Yet surprisingly the majority of people playing it, like myself, think that's it's great. Funny, isn't it?


    not really surprising. It just shows that the MAJORITY of gamers in the world want to play real quality games and the rest (about 5k) play df

  • javacjavac Member Posts: 1,175

    he hasn't played the game, it fails.

  • DrakkhenDrakkhen Member Posts: 195
    Originally posted by gamerman98


    It lost any credibility when I seen who wrote it.

     

     

     

  • KasmosKasmos Member UncommonPosts: 593
    Originally posted by gamerman98


     

    Originally posted by Kasmos


    Originally posted by Shard101


    Originally posted by Kasmos
     
    Considering he hasn't played a second in-game, take this "editorial" with the smallest grain of salt.

    Plus, he spells "Aventurine" , "Adventurine".... hahaha.



     

     

    NDA  has been lifted and the truth is out there. Theres no shroud of mystery you fanbois can hide behind and say "you are not playing it how would you know?"

    People know how it really is because non fanbois that are playing are putting it on the web and telling everyone and their brother.





     

    Yet surprisingly the majority of people playing it, like myself, think that's it's great. Funny, isn't it?

     



    not really surprising. It just shows that the MAJORITY of gamers in the world want to play real quality games and the rest (about 5k) play df

     

    Oh yeah, you're right, you mean quality like AoC, WAR, WoW, and the rest of the EQ clones? Hahaha, whatever you tell yourself. I've had more fun in the past 4 days of playing Darkfall then in the past 5 years of playing MMOs. Now you tell me why that is? Because I like "shitty" games"? 

  • tombear81tombear81 Member Posts: 810

    Half the stuff he wrote was not about the game .. it was about the tomfoolery of Aventurine. You don't need to play the game to understand what a bunch of small time amatuers they are with little sense direction. Anyways the game will never be as interesting as those fine fools at AV.

    Heck the cannot even behave in such as way that doesn't scream the game is a scam to half the people on here. And I think they single handly redefined the word "launch". Tis all true.

  • JeroKaneJeroKane Member EpicPosts: 7,098
    Originally posted by gamerman98


     

    Originally posted by Kasmos


    Originally posted by Shard101


    Originally posted by Kasmos
     
    Considering he hasn't played a second in-game, take this "editorial" with the smallest grain of salt.

    Plus, he spells "Aventurine" , "Adventurine".... hahaha.

     

     

    NDA  has been lifted and the truth is out there. Theres no shroud of mystery you fanbois can hide behind and say "you are not playing it how would you know?"

    People know how it really is because non fanbois that are playing are putting it on the web and telling everyone and their brother.





     

    Yet surprisingly the majority of people playing it, like myself, think that's it's great. Funny, isn't it?

     



    not really surprising. It just shows that the MAJORITY of gamers in the world want to play real quality games and the rest (about 5k) play df

     

    *outch* that gotta hurt. 

  • Mr_HandMr_Hand Member Posts: 185
    Originally posted by Kasmos


    Considering he hasn't played a second in-game, take this "editorial" with the smallest grain of salt.
    Plus, he spells "Aventurine" , "Adventurine".... hahaha.



     

    ??

     

    I beta tested for 5 weeks, that pretty much sums up Darkfall...!

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  • rhinokrhinok Member UncommonPosts: 1,798
    Originally posted by javac


    he hasn't played the game, it fails.

    It's not a review. It's an observational editorial of the launch and he's simply stating what we all saw, except for those of you with blinders on.

    The only thing that fails is your ability to open your eyes.  The launch was far from smooth, but things seem to be getting better, hopefully even more so in the coming days.

    ~Ripper

  • Daffid011Daffid011 Member UncommonPosts: 7,945
    Originally posted by rhinok

    Originally posted by Kasmos


    Considering he hasn't played a second in-game, take this "editorial" with the smallest grain of salt.
    Plus, he spells "Aventurine" , "Adventurine".... hahaha.

    I don't ' understand what your problem is with his article:

    1. He explicitly states it's an editorial (an opinion piece), not a review.
    2. He speaks passionately about wanting to be able to buy and play Darkfall
    3. His points about the launch are correct - it didn't go well, but things seem to be getting better
    4. His "Good" and "Bad" points, while subjective, appear to be pretty accurate

    So, what's your beef?

    ~Ripper

    It is pretty hard to write an opinion piece on a game you have never played. 

     

    I don't disagree with his points nor do I endorse them, but I don't like the concept of "review" sites writing opinions of games they have never played.  Let alone writing good/bad lists for features they have never tested. 

     

    It all comes out as a rumor and news story in some strange mesh of words. 

  • javacjavac Member Posts: 1,175
    Originally posted by Shard101



    The truth is : The game is in shambles and falling apart and the noob dev team doesn't even know that php is the worst code or format to use for websites under a load.

     

    can you explain why me and my whole clan are having such a great time?

     

    or why there are numerous major websites using PHP? have you even heard of caching proxies or load balancers?

     

    1/10 for trolling attempt and 2/10 for IT knowledge

     

     

  • gamerman98gamerman98 Member UncommonPosts: 809


    Originally posted by Kasmos
    Originally posted by gamerman98  

    Originally posted by Kasmos

    Originally posted by Shard101

    Originally posted by Kasmos
     
    Considering he hasn't played a second in-game, take this "editorial" with the smallest grain of salt.
    Plus, he spells "Aventurine" , "Adventurine".... hahaha.
     

     
    NDA  has been lifted and the truth is out there. Theres no shroud of mystery you fanbois can hide behind and say "you are not playing it how would you know?"
    People know how it really is because non fanbois that are playing are putting it on the web and telling everyone and their brother.




     
    Yet surprisingly the majority of people playing it, like myself, think that's it's great. Funny, isn't it?


     

    not really surprising. It just shows that the MAJORITY of gamers in the world want to play real quality games and the rest (about 5k) play df



     
    Oh yeah, you're right, you mean quality like AoC, WAR, WoW, and the rest of the EQ clones? Hahaha, whatever you tell yourself. I've had more fun in the past 4 days of playing Darkfall then in the past 5 years of playing MMOs. Now you tell me why that is? Because I like "shitty" games"? image

    Well i guess you got your answer LOL

  • hybridfuryhybridfury Member Posts: 138
    Originally posted by Kasmos


    Considering he hasn't played a second in-game, take this "editorial" with the smallest grain of salt.
    Plus, he spells "Aventurine" , "Adventurine".... hahaha.



     

    At this point whether you played the game or not really doesn't matter and obviously the majority haven't played it for even more obvious reasons.  There are plenty of streams up of the game that you can watch and get a pretty accurate opinion of it.

    Currently Playing: Toying around with AoC and bored with Darkfall

    Thinking of Playing: Fallen Earth or Darkfall after this months update.

    Have Played: EQ1, EQ2, WoW, WAR, Vanguard, EvE, Requiem, PW, Lotro, Lineage2, AoC, SWG...

  • rhinokrhinok Member UncommonPosts: 1,798
    Originally posted by Daffid011

    Originally posted by rhinok

    Originally posted by Kasmos


    Considering he hasn't played a second in-game, take this "editorial" with the smallest grain of salt.
    Plus, he spells "Aventurine" , "Adventurine".... hahaha.

    I don't ' understand what your problem is with his article:

    1. He explicitly states it's an editorial (an opinion piece), not a review.
    2. He speaks passionately about wanting to be able to buy and play Darkfall
    3. His points about the launch are correct - it didn't go well, but things seem to be getting better
    4. His "Good" and "Bad" points, while subjective, appear to be pretty accurate

    So, what's your beef?

    ~Ripper

    It is pretty hard to write an opinion piece on a game you have never played. 

     

    I don't disagree with his points nor do I endorse them, but I don't like the concept of "review" sites writing opinions of games they have never played.  Let alone writing good/bad lists for features they have never tested. 

     

    It all comes out as a rumor and news story in some strange mesh of words. 

    It's not hard when the opinion isn't about the game, but about the launch and hype.  You don't need to have played the game, you just needed to follow the launch, which he did.  Even his pros and cons are written from the perspective of "I'm interested in the game and this is what I've heard, both good and bad".

    ~Ripper

  • rageagainstrageagainst Member Posts: 618

    despite how unprofessional the editorial is, its mostly right, there are nearly no anti hack systems in place i can think of, a lot of features promised are not in the game, and there's an overall lack of any form of polish

    When I'm energetic I'm:


    When I'm at default I'm:


    WHITE/BLUE


    Lol according to this I'm bipolar :O

  • KasmosKasmos Member UncommonPosts: 593
    Originally posted by Daffid011

    Originally posted by rhinok

    Originally posted by Kasmos


    Considering he hasn't played a second in-game, take this "editorial" with the smallest grain of salt.
    Plus, he spells "Aventurine" , "Adventurine".... hahaha.

    I don't ' understand what your problem is with his article:

    1. He explicitly states it's an editorial (an opinion piece), not a review.
    2. He speaks passionately about wanting to be able to buy and play Darkfall
    3. His points about the launch are correct - it didn't go well, but things seem to be getting better
    4. His "Good" and "Bad" points, while subjective, appear to be pretty accurate

    So, what's your beef?

    ~Ripper

    It is pretty hard to write an opinion piece on a game you have never played. 

     

    I don't disagree with his points nor do I endorse them, but I don't like the concept of "review" sites writing opinions of games they have never played.  Let alone writing good/bad lists for features they have never tested. 

     

    It all comes out as a rumor and news story in some strange mesh of words. 

     

    Thank you for summing up my feelings.

  • Daffid011Daffid011 Member UncommonPosts: 7,945
    Originally posted by rhinok

    Originally posted by Daffid011

    Originally posted by rhinok

    Originally posted by Kasmos


    Considering he hasn't played a second in-game, take this "editorial" with the smallest grain of salt.
    Plus, he spells "Aventurine" , "Adventurine".... hahaha.

    I don't ' understand what your problem is with his article:

    1. He explicitly states it's an editorial (an opinion piece), not a review.
    2. He speaks passionately about wanting to be able to buy and play Darkfall
    3. His points about the launch are correct - it didn't go well, but things seem to be getting better
    4. His "Good" and "Bad" points, while subjective, appear to be pretty accurate

    So, what's your beef?

    ~Ripper

    It is pretty hard to write an opinion piece on a game you have never played. 

     

    I don't disagree with his points nor do I endorse them, but I don't like the concept of "review" sites writing opinions of games they have never played.  Let alone writing good/bad lists for features they have never tested. 

     

    It all comes out as a rumor and news story in some strange mesh of words. 

    It's not hard when the opinion isn't about the game, but about the launch and hype.  You don't need to have played the game, you just needed to follow the launch, which he did.  Even his pros and cons are written from the perspective of "I'm interested in the game and this is what I've heard, both good and bad".

    ~Ripper

    He talks about the level of polish in the game, how the game world is large, but doesn't feel "alive" and things of that nature.

     

    Much of that news piece talks about the launch (which seems true) and the last part talks about the gameplay (which he has no experience with) that he seems to base on forum posts and rumors.  It is a bad piece of journalism in my opinion.  It mixes far to much news coverage with to much speculation about gameplay that he has not experience anything of to report on.

    For example, everything in his good list is about gameplay, while almost every single item in his bad list is about the games condition and developement problems at launch. 

     

    Edit: I think his coverage of the launch was fine (regardless of which side of the fence you might be on), but don't think he should have ventured into any areas of gameplay yet. 

  • Shard101Shard101 Member UncommonPosts: 479
    Originally posted by javac

    Originally posted by Shard101



    The truth is : The game is in shambles and falling apart and the noob dev team doesn't even know that php is the worst code or format to use for websites under a load.

     

    can you explain why me and my whole clan are having such a great time?

     

    or why there are numerous major websites using PHP? have you even heard of caching proxies or load balancers?

     

    1/10 for trolling attempt and 2/10 for IT knowledge

     

     



     

    then why all the account problems?

    asp.net payment gateway they need or somthing. They are rookies, proof is everywhere.

  • rhinokrhinok Member UncommonPosts: 1,798
    Originally posted by Daffid011

    Originally posted by rhinok

    Originally posted by Daffid011

    Originally posted by rhinok

    Originally posted by Kasmos


    Considering he hasn't played a second in-game, take this "editorial" with the smallest grain of salt.
    Plus, he spells "Aventurine" , "Adventurine".... hahaha.

    I don't ' understand what your problem is with his article:

    1. He explicitly states it's an editorial (an opinion piece), not a review.
    2. He speaks passionately about wanting to be able to buy and play Darkfall
    3. His points about the launch are correct - it didn't go well, but things seem to be getting better
    4. His "Good" and "Bad" points, while subjective, appear to be pretty accurate

    So, what's your beef?

    ~Ripper

    It is pretty hard to write an opinion piece on a game you have never played. 

     

    I don't disagree with his points nor do I endorse them, but I don't like the concept of "review" sites writing opinions of games they have never played.  Let alone writing good/bad lists for features they have never tested. 

     

    It all comes out as a rumor and news story in some strange mesh of words. 

    It's not hard when the opinion isn't about the game, but about the launch and hype.  You don't need to have played the game, you just needed to follow the launch, which he did.  Even his pros and cons are written from the perspective of "I'm interested in the game and this is what I've heard, both good and bad".

    ~Ripper

    He talks about the level of polish in the game, how the game world is large, but doesn't feel "alive" and things of that nature.

     

    Much of that news piece talks about the launch (which seems true) and the last part talks about the gameplay (which he has no experience with) that he seems to base on forum posts and rumors.  It is a bad piece of journalism in my opinion.  It mixes far to much news coverage with to much speculation about gameplay that he has not experience anything of to report on.

    For example, everything in his good list is about gameplay, while almost every single item in his bad list is about the games condition and developement problems at launch. 

     

    Edit: I think his coverage of the launch was fine (regardless of which side of the fence you might be on), but don't think he should have ventured into any areas of gameplay yet. 

    Good point about differentiating launch coverage vs. gameplay.   I can definitely see where you're coming from.  Thanks for clarifying.

    ~Ripper

  • KasmosKasmos Member UncommonPosts: 593
    Originally posted by gamerman98


     


     

    Well i guess you got your answer LOL

     

    Again, whatever you tell yourself. That's why there's about 250 thousand people dying to get their hands on this game, so they can too enjoy a "shitty" game. You can't deny the demand for this game right now, even if you're still clinging to the last threads of hope that this game is as horrible as the trolls claimed pre-release.

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