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Why do MMO'S always screw up Archer/Ranger Classes?

 

  In Warhammer the Shadow Warrior is all Gimped to hell...the word "Shadow" has NOTHING to do with his abilities.   The all mighty Squig Herder is even better than the high elf ranger????????????? WTF

 

In Vanguard the Ranger is all jacked up also.   Always has been in Vanguard, the dev's keep talking about adding some tracking to the vanguard ranger for years, yes years.   And, the Vanguard Ranger is useless in raids.

 

Enlighten me on LOTR if anyone plays the ranger in there and in WOW ( I don't play WOW)

 

Is the Ranger worthless in all MMO"S?

 

And have any MMO's gotten it right with the Ranger?? 

 

I know Guild Wars Ranger was pretty awesome and still is, atleast better than most archer classes in MMO's

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  • UmbralUmbral Member Posts: 1,051

     

    In Everquest 2 the ranger is pretty good at PvP, very, very good in hard dungeons and awesome in  Raids.

     

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  • Carl132pCarl132p Member UncommonPosts: 538
    Originally posted by susanto1228


     
      In Warhammer the Shadow Warrior is all Gimped to hell...the word "Shadow" has NOTHING to do with his abilities.   The all mighty Squig Herder is even better than the high elf ranger????????????? WTF
     
    In Vanguard the Ranger is all jacked up also.   Always has been in Vanguard, the dev's keep talking about adding some tracking to the vanguard ranger for years, yes years.   And, the Vanguard Ranger is useless in raids.
     
    Enlighten me on LOTR if anyone plays the ranger in there and in WOW ( I don't play WOW)
     
    Is the Ranger worthless in all MMO"S?
     
    And have any MMO's gotten it right with the Ranger?? 
     
    I know Guild Wars Ranger was pretty awesome and still is, atleast better than most archer classes in MMO's

    Shadow warriors hit harder than Squig herders in endgame

     

    Vanguard rangers were highest dps for months and it has heals and other nature magic.

     

    Lotro ranger is most played class and does lots of dps and can trap

     

    Wow has a hunter which was the most played class and is easily the best class to have with you in a 5 man dungeon for a dps roll

     

    EQ did the ranger right. It had its bow abilities but also lots of druidic abilities.

  • GravargGravarg Member UncommonPosts: 3,424

    Only two games i've played that I liked the ranged classes were DAoC and LotRO.  In DAoC it was very life-life, you had a draw time and your shots didn't instantly shoot you had to wait for the draw to come.   You could hide in the shadows and wait for people to come by and snipe them (used to be better before the bow nerf a long time ago).  Hunters could summon familiars to aid them in combat.  Rangers had some very nice buffs.  Scout had the highest damage per hit of the three.  Three different styles of playing the Ranged classes, all of which were unique and fun.

     

    In LotRO, they made it so you were truely like a Ranger from the Movies,  think Faramir.  You could fast travel by using "secret paths" you know, aka teleporting.  Your damage was really high, and you could actually hold your own in melee, but bow was alot better.  Alot of the pve fights in LotRO ended before the enemy even got to you.  When they did you could whip out your dual daggers, axes, etc and pwn em.

  • wolvie3131wolvie3131 Member UncommonPosts: 196

    actually I always loved my VG Ranger class (yes it is missing tracking) but everything else about the class is great and fun to boot.

    EQ2's ranger class is also  fun to play and done right, keep in mind these are my personal opinions, and I have played a ranger class since back in the day with P&P games.

  • paulscottpaulscott Member Posts: 5,613

    Technically they quite a bit more powerful than they are historically

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  • Death1942Death1942 Member UncommonPosts: 2,587

    actually i would say the Vanguard ranger is by far the best one of the lot.  For me a ranger should be as close to the DnD ranger as possible and the Vanguard one fits this (almost) perfectly. 

    WoW gimped the hunter by giving him a pet and forcing its use (both hunters and pet eventually got nerfed)

     

    Aside from those 2 i would say Rangers/bow users tend to be decent but screwed up in one way or another (dps, pets, skills, lore..ect)

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  • brostynbrostyn Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 3,092

    DAoC and EQ2 made rangers/archers right, imo.

  • Z3R01Z3R01 Member UncommonPosts: 2,426
    Originally posted by brostyn


    DAoC and EQ2 made rangers/archers right, imo.

     

    Rangers/hunters are done in so many different ways that I usually try that class first.

    Sometimes they play more like rogues but with bows, sometimes there casters or even animal tamers.

    Most of the rangers i;ve played have been pretty good.

     

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  • TurnellTurnell Member Posts: 239

    I think all three archer classes in DAOC were a perfect fit. If not, sometimes, overpowered

     

    God I loved my hunter

  • wyrmfleshwyrmflesh Member Posts: 7

    LOTRO did the hunter class pretty well, IMO. I'd like if it had a bit more focus on druidic capabilities and the tracking system sucks, but otherwise it's a pretty solid representation.

  • QuirhidQuirhid Member UncommonPosts: 6,230

    What is with people wanting to play rangers? No other class has this loud/big fanbase. What's wrong with you?!

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  • thorwoodthorwood Member Posts: 485

    Hunter class in LoTRO is fine.

    Ranger in EQ is also a good class.  Sony did some tweaking before they got it right.

     

  • daarcodaarco Member UncommonPosts: 4,276

    Archery in darkfall is almost overpowered. if you are good you can take out almost anyone.

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