Lack of content.. well, from what I have heard, not seen, because AV still hasn't figured out how PreOrders work.. 12 days after release, but there are no mobs, or very little. Fine, the game is PvP based, lets move on... shall we?
Lack of spells.. well, correct me if I am wrong, but all you can do is launch a blue ball, right?
Lack of abilities.. I guess there are a lot of them (again, have not been in game yet, because the game has been in Closed-Paid-Beta for 12 days), but they have no depth. Its just shoot shoot shoot, swing swing swing. I think you get where this is going.
Now, melee attacks. Ahh yes, what every fan boy says takes skill, to get near someone and click. Well, I liked the clever comparison to a movie, that was good. But, what you failed to realize is that a movie is simply a movie. You pay $5 dollars and its realistic (in a sense) and keeps you entertained via the plot, characters, etc.
But, a game, where you are the character (and in a game that has no plot), doing real life actions (such as simply swinging a sword over your shoulder) becomes boring, because you can do that in real life, why play a game? Or, as you said... you can watch a movie and be far more satisfied and save $55.
Well, a simple YouTube search will show you that there are quite a few people out there reporting people via video (Keep in mind, that is how you report people on WoW Private servers, I know its sad AV can't run their own game) for speed hacks, etc...
2.Manual targeting is worse than auto targeting because you can manual target IRL? Are you serious?
3. All spells have different animations. MM is just first one and everyone start with it. You don't need reagent to use it and it is the shittiest spell in game.
Addressing the above two.
2. I am unsure where I said "auto targeting is better because you can manual target IRL". I did, however, say that you can swing a sword IRL.
3. Thanks for correcting me, but I have yet to see any video with new spells, anyone care to share?
And in response to what ever tool told me to educate myself... well, I would, but DF's main site is so poorly done that the only way to find information is by skimming through the main forums, which are filled with illiterate fools, such as yourself.
"I believe in God, only I spell it Nature." - Frank Lloyd Wright
Too bad it's goon propaganda but ohh well, at least you see how all trolls calling it's lag fest was wrong. www.youtube.com/watch
MhaaaahaHAaaHHHAaAAA.... rotf....
OMg, that is the funniest video I ever saw! Do you see ANY skill in that combat video? Everyone is just spamming mana missles and later running around knife fighting.
Half the time people are swinging in open air... missing their targets and it's juts one big cluster f%ck. Honestly, go look at that video again and ask yourself does it take ANY skill to play this game? 80% is luck! They aren't targeting an individual, they are just spaming, hoping to hit someone!
Oh, and isn't a tad wierd that EVERYONE is doing the same thing, so much for skill based system and playing a role, instead of a class.
Originally posted by maxnrosy Originally posted by drago_pl
Originally posted by MunioVeritas Oh my, 100 vs. 100. Maybe you should look into some of the recent EVE 0.0 sec battles. Upwards of 1000 people involved in one single battle. And inbefore lag fest in this instance, CCP has really gone the distance in reducing the lag of those particular battles.
Yeah... they achieved it after 5 years of constant game polishing. Aventurine achieved it after 7 days. I played EVE a lot and really love it (this is for damian7) but you can't compare games with auto-targeting and manual targeting like that. Besides EVE have nothing else but static ships in empty space and in last year was lagging like hell even with 100v100 battles and of course maximum zoom out like 90% of EVE players have while in fleet battle. Drago_pl let me give you a word of advice. Do not under estimate goonswarm. I personally have a few rl friends who are in goonswarm. Any game they get into they dominate it. Do not this this is some little community. Its fucking (pardon) huge. They were mocked in eve yet they were the only ones to terminate bob after many humiliating defeats. They entered eve as a small collective, eve players bashed them , insulted them so you know what they did. They brought the damn swarm. If they get into 1 df server their clan alone will consist of over 3k players. Like i said they are no joke. Dont think that darkfalls twitch combat will deter them. They dont care if they die or even suck at the game. They always travel in huge numbers.
I never underestimate my enemy. I have nothing against they zerg strategy, for me that is strategy like any other if it leads to victory. I just don't like they spamming and generally it's fun fighting with bigger ones
Too bad it's goon propaganda but ohh well, at least you see how all trolls calling it's lag fest was wrong. www.youtube.com/watch
MhaaaahaHAaaHHHAaAAA.... rotf....
OMg, that is the funniest video I ever saw! Do you see ANY skill in that combat video? Everyone is just spamming mana missles and later running around knife fighting.
Half the time people are swinging in open air... missing their targets and it's juts one big cluster f%ck. Honestly, go look at that video again and ask yourself does it take ANY skill to play this game? 80% is luck! They aren't targeting an individual, they are just spaming, hoping to hit someone!
Oh, and isn't a tad wierd that EVERYONE is doing the same thing, so much for skill based system and playing a role, instead of a class.
Darkfall = Epic fail
How come you havent been banned yet for trolling? I mean DF section is all you post in with "Fail" being your sig, you must copy paste the same sentences over and over LOL
I agree. I play MMORPGs for auto targeting. If I don't want auto targeting, I play Call of Duty or Battlefield. Sometimes it's about me (Call of Duty) sometimes it's about my character (DAoC and other decent MMORPGs).
Okay, that's your opinion. But I'm all for diversity, I really believe twitch combat can be applied to melee/archery/magic successfully (and not to be caged in FPS games forever), even though few games have made it interesting/deep (Mount & Blade as a prime example). There are already thousands of games with auto attack out there, having a few without it won't hurt.
About the video, I guess it's too early to judge Darkfall mass battles, assuming in the future (1-3 months) we'll have more variety of magic spells or maybe siege weapons.
Too bad it's goon propaganda but ohh well, at least you see how all trolls calling it's lag fest was wrong. www.youtube.com/watch
MhaaaahaHAaaHHHAaAAA.... rotf....
OMg, that is the funniest video I ever saw! Do you see ANY skill in that combat video? Everyone is just spamming mana missles and later running around knife fighting.
Half the time people are swinging in open air... missing their targets and it's juts one big cluster f%ck. Honestly, go look at that video again and ask yourself does it take ANY skill to play this game? 80% is luck! They aren't targeting an individual, they are just spaming, hoping to hit someone!
Oh, and isn't a tad wierd that EVERYONE is doing the same thing, so much for skill based system and playing a role, instead of a class.
Darkfall = Epic fail
QFT. They always say that clicking takes skill, but anytime I watch a video its just click spam. Maybe I am missing someting, IDK.
"I believe in God, only I spell it Nature." - Frank Lloyd Wright
Too bad it's goon propaganda but ohh well, at least you see how all trolls calling it's lag fest was wrong. www.youtube.com/watch
MhaaaahaHAaaHHHAaAAA.... rotf....
OMg, that is the funniest video I ever saw! Do you see ANY skill in that combat video? Everyone is just spamming mana missles and later running around knife fighting.
Half the time people are swinging in open air... missing their targets and it's juts one big cluster f%ck. Honestly, go look at that video again and ask yourself does it take ANY skill to play this game? 80% is luck! They aren't targeting an individual, they are just spaming, hoping to hit someone!
Oh, and isn't a tad wierd that EVERYONE is doing the same thing, so much for skill based system and playing a role, instead of a class.
Darkfall = Epic fail
repeating the same stuff in every thread and in every post gets old and become tiring...
Missing ..is result of bad aiming ..and indicating skill to hit successfully instead of computed *miss * or *hit* after button mashing in usual MMORPG's..if they spam a lot they loose stamina a lot what will reduce their chances in being succesfull in that combat ..again skill..(confirmed wins of outnumbered minority win battles)
Everyone is using the weapons aothers use is the result of freedom and the result of just 8 days in release with no high level specialists in certain skills and maybe also the result of lack of organisation with things not planned beforehand and just "lets attckl the city" approach ...
DarkFall on the way to EPIC win ..
hail DarkFall
..brought back MASSIVE into MMO
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE-------------------------------------------------- $OE - eternal enemy of online gaming -We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
Too bad it's goon propaganda but ohh well, at least you see how all trolls calling it's lag fest was wrong. www.youtube.com/watch
MhaaaahaHAaaHHHAaAAA.... rotf....
OMg, that is the funniest video I ever saw! Do you see ANY skill in that combat video? Everyone is just spamming mana missles and later running around knife fighting.
Half the time people are swinging in open air... missing their targets and it's juts one big cluster f%ck. Honestly, go look at that video again and ask yourself does it take ANY skill to play this game? 80% is luck! They aren't targeting an individual, they are just spaming, hoping to hit someone!
Oh, and isn't a tad wierd that EVERYONE is doing the same thing, so much for skill based system and playing a role, instead of a class.
Darkfall = Epic fail
repeating the same stuff in every thread and in every post gets old and become tiring...
Missing ..is result of bad aiming ..and indicating skill to hit successfully instead of computed *miss * or *hit* after button mashing in usual MMORPG's..if they spam a lot they loose stamina a lot what will reduce their chances in being succesfull in that combat ..again skill..
Everyone is using the weapons aothers use is the result of freedom and the result of just 8 days in release with no high level specialists in certain skills and maybe also the result of lack of organisation with things not planned beforehand and just "lets attckl the city" approach ...
DarkFall on the way to EPIC win ..
hail DarkFall
..brought back MASSIVE into MMO
I feel so bad for people who are such fanboys that they can't even look at this pile of trash and see it for what it is.
I am sitting here watching videos and thinking "I can't beleive people actually wasted 60 dollars on this game!"
Guess I will just be sitting here in 3 months saying "I told you so."
"I believe in God, only I spell it Nature." - Frank Lloyd Wright
Addressing the above two. 2. I am unsure where I said "auto targeting is better because you can manual target IRL". I did, however, say that you can swing a sword IRL. 3. Thanks for correcting me, but I have yet to see any video with new spells, anyone care to share?
And in response to what ever tool told me to educate myself... well, I would, but DF's main site is so poorly done that the only way to find information is by skimming through the main forums, which are filled with illiterate fools, such as yourself.
2. I like how it's different from many other mmorpgs. It takes a lot more skill to actually hit someone. Each swing costs you stamina so if you are swinging in air you will fast die to someone who actually know when to hit. Yeah, some luck is involved but at least hit chance is not based on some strange character statistic (and someone calling it pure luck when in every other game its determinated by random generator and some equation).
3. To name a few I tried (or saw monster using) in beta: DoT poison - green bolt, swarm attack - something like group of bees attacking enemy, firebolt - standard animation, healing - something that looks like red lighting, target paint- you can hit enemy and then he will have white ball of energy jumping over his head so it can be used for calling primaries in fight
There are many more kind of spells like AoE, Volcano, spells affected by gravity like arrows. Sorry, if you want to see it in action leave this forums and come back in a month.
I'm not happy with ordering system at all. I would be playing right now instead of posting here :P But just because ordering suck that doesn't mean game is crap. In fact I'm still amazed how this company managed to make such a fun game with low budget and overall chaos we are seeing now. I'm still waiting for MO and Eartrise but as for now DF is best game out there without any doubts.
I agree. I play MMORPGs for auto targeting. If I don't want auto targeting, I play Call of Duty or Battlefield. Sometimes it's about me (Call of Duty) sometimes it's about my character (DAoC and other decent MMORPGs).
Ok, then Darkfall isn't for you. Some of us want to manually target in our MMO.
Move on.
Other games that might suit your interests are that way----
I seriously don't know how can anyone whine about one of main features of Darkfall while 99% of other mmorpgs have what they like (auto targeting). Go away from this game. It will not change to auto-targeting just because you like smashing 1-9 while watching tv.
Yes, some games..! But, do you see anyone "targeting" in this game either? They are just spamming whatever attack in the general direction and aiming is nothing other than facing or chasing your enemy.
Here: PvP Knowing who to attack, what spell to cast, when to counter or even coordinate a series of attackes has more depth, than just swinging a weapon. Magic the Gathering is a combat game that takes place in your MIND and requires deep thinking and often countering instead of dmg dealing is more benifical. Most MMORPG's have this aspect about them.
I'm starting to beleive that the only people who are enjoying Darkfall or thugs who like to beat on things without having to use their brain for anything. Combat is so incredible stale... and the adrenal rush comes from cro-magnon part of the brain. Darkfall is not hardcore, it is for unintelligent people who wish they could take a trip to Rwanda for a weekend and play lord of the flies once and a while.
Too bad it's goon propaganda but ohh well, at least you see how all trolls calling it's lag fest was wrong. www.youtube.com/watch
MhaaaahaHAaaHHHAaAAA.... rotf....
OMg, that is the funniest video I ever saw! Do you see ANY skill in that combat video? Everyone is just spamming mana missles and later running around knife fighting.
Half the time people are swinging in open air... missing their targets and it's juts one big cluster f%ck. Honestly, go look at that video again and ask yourself does it take ANY skill to play this game? 80% is luck! They aren't targeting an individual, they are just spaming, hoping to hit someone!
Oh, and isn't a tad wierd that EVERYONE is doing the same thing, so much for skill based system and playing a role, instead of a class.
Darkfall = Epic fail
repeating the same stuff in every thread and in every post gets old and become tiring...
Missing ..is result of bad aiming ..and indicating skill to hit successfully instead of computed *miss * or *hit* after button mashing in usual MMORPG's..if they spam a lot they loose stamina a lot what will reduce their chances in being succesfull in that combat ..again skill..
Everyone is using the weapons aothers use is the result of freedom and the result of just 8 days in release with no high level specialists in certain skills and maybe also the result of lack of organisation with things not planned beforehand and just "lets attckl the city" approach ...
DarkFall on the way to EPIC win ..
hail DarkFall
..brought back MASSIVE into MMO
sorry but that title belongs to eve. Not until darkfall can produce a battle with 1k players involved, then it can contend for the title. But yep while the video did not prove there were 200 people, it was clear alot of people were involved and there was little to no lag.
I hope to see more vids soon. this is way better than posting 200 people massive battle crap and have nothing to back it up with. Videos are a good source for that. youll see later on more vids will pop up. Especially from goonswarm , knowing them and knowing their communities they will never send out a small group for a fight. they will come in masses.
Watching Fanbois drop their soap in a prison full of desperate men.
Too bad it's goon propaganda but ohh well, at least you see how all trolls calling it's lag fest was wrong. www.youtube.com/watch
MhaaaahaHAaaHHHAaAAA.... rotf....
OMg, that is the funniest video I ever saw! Do you see ANY skill in that combat video? Everyone is just spamming mana missles and later running around knife fighting.
Half the time people are swinging in open air... missing their targets and it's juts one big cluster f%ck. Honestly, go look at that video again and ask yourself does it take ANY skill to play this game? 80% is luck! They aren't targeting an individual, they are just spaming, hoping to hit someone!
Oh, and isn't a tad wierd that EVERYONE is doing the same thing, so much for skill based system and playing a role, instead of a class.
Darkfall = Epic fail
repeating the same stuff in every thread and in every post gets old and become tiring...
Missing ..is result of bad aiming ..and indicating skill to hit successfully instead of computed *miss * or *hit* after button mashing in usual MMORPG's..if they spam a lot they loose stamina a lot what will reduce their chances in being succesfull in that combat ..again skill..
Everyone is using the weapons aothers use is the result of freedom and the result of just 8 days in release with no high level specialists in certain skills and maybe also the result of lack of organisation with things not planned beforehand and just "lets attckl the city" approach ...
DarkFall on the way to EPIC win ..
hail DarkFall
..brought back MASSIVE into MMO
I feel so bad for people who are such fanboys that they can't even look at this pile of trash and see it for what it is.
I am sitting here watching videos and thinking "I can't beleive people actually wasted 60 dollars on this game!"
Guess I will just be sitting here in 3 months saying "I told you so."
You sitting here because you a troll..i am also feeling sad for you having such few alternatives in your life then wasting your time on something you not like and writing useless post..
The video delivers ..people who like MASSIVE battles can't wait to be part of the EPIC battles..
hail DarkFall
..Aventurine brought back MASSIVE in to MMO
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE-------------------------------------------------- $OE - eternal enemy of online gaming -We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
Thanks for the video. I knew the graphics, animations and 3 attacks (MM, Bow, and Weapon) looked horrid in all the screenshots I have seen but I was willing to give it the benefit of the doubt and wait for something more concrete to display it.
The video looks just like the screens and reviews I have read, shallow mouth-breathing click-fest combat.
You just saved me 60 bucks.
QFT
You also saved me some money ... thanx.
Counterstrike is a mindless click fest in that case. Just b/c you see a video with someone with no skill doesn't mean the game lacks skill. Melee is pretty stupid 1v1 (though circle strafing with goldeneye controls while dodging blows by crouching and jumping DOES require skill no doubt), think about GROUPS, melee in GROUPS of people in DF requires more skill than melee in any other mmo; but I'm appalled people expected more from archery and magery, which are great (magic is horridly done PROGRESSION wise but combat wise its fine) .
And the graphics are fine, its a shame that they got an animator that couldn't animate doom 1 to save his life, b/c other than those the graphics are great, and its sad to see how many graphic wh0res they are losing, w/e maybe its for the best, they can go ruin MO and leave it as soon as AoC2 is released.
Though yeah, the devs worked on like nothing else other than making a smooth game world and engine. I've never seen features so horridly implimented in any serious p2p mmo. I mean while you're making a game for 8 years, wouldn't you go off on a limb and THINK how you should impliment the feature you've been making for the past 10 months... I blame marijuana
Too bad it's goon propaganda but ohh well, at least you see how all trolls calling it's lag fest was wrong. www.youtube.com/watch
MhaaaahaHAaaHHHAaAAA.... rotf....
OMg, that is the funniest video I ever saw! Do you see ANY skill in that combat video? Everyone is just spamming mana missles and later running around knife fighting.
Half the time people are swinging in open air... missing their targets and it's juts one big cluster f%ck. Honestly, go look at that video again and ask yourself does it take ANY skill to play this game? 80% is luck! They aren't targeting an individual, they are just spaming, hoping to hit someone!
Oh, and isn't a tad wierd that EVERYONE is doing the same thing, so much for skill based system and playing a role, instead of a class.
Darkfall = Epic fail
repeating the same stuff in every thread and in every post gets old and become tiring...
Missing ..is result of bad aiming ..and indicating skill to hit successfully instead of computed *miss * or *hit* after button mashing in usual MMORPG's..if they spam a lot they loose stamina a lot what will reduce their chances in being succesfull in that combat ..again skill..
Everyone is using the weapons aothers use is the result of freedom and the result of just 8 days in release with no high level specialists in certain skills and maybe also the result of lack of organisation with things not planned beforehand and just "lets attckl the city" approach ...
DarkFall on the way to EPIC win ..
hail DarkFall
..brought back MASSIVE into MMO
sorry but that title belongs to eve. Not until darkfall can produce a battle with 1k players involved, then it can contend for the title. But yep while the video did not prove there were 200 people, it was clear alot of people were involved and there was little to no lag.
I hope to see more vids soon. this is way better than posting 200 people massive battle crap and have nothing to back it up with. Videos are a good source for that. youll see later on more vids will pop up. Especially from goonswarm , knowing them and knowing their communities they will never send out a small group for a fight. they will come in masses.
EvE is not an option for many ..different genre and MMORPG had always a majority in fantasy MMORPG with actual chars walking around in a world and not starships ..sorry but 300 people in a medievel setting and a siege will always count more to many people then 1000 in a black space..
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE-------------------------------------------------- $OE - eternal enemy of online gaming -We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
Too bad it's goon propaganda but ohh well, at least you see how all trolls calling it's lag fest was wrong. www.youtube.com/watch
MhaaaahaHAaaHHHAaAAA.... rotf....
OMg, that is the funniest video I ever saw! Do you see ANY skill in that combat video? Everyone is just spamming mana missles and later running around knife fighting.
Half the time people are swinging in open air... missing their targets and it's juts one big cluster f%ck. Honestly, go look at that video again and ask yourself does it take ANY skill to play this game? 80% is luck! They aren't targeting an individual, they are just spaming, hoping to hit someone!
Oh, and isn't a tad wierd that EVERYONE is doing the same thing, so much for skill based system and playing a role, instead of a class.
Darkfall = Epic fail
repeating the same stuff in every thread and in every post gets old and become tiring...
Missing ..is result of bad aiming ..and indicating skill to hit successfully instead of computed *miss * or *hit* after button mashing in usual MMORPG's..if they spam a lot they loose stamina a lot what will reduce their chances in being succesfull in that combat ..again skill..
Everyone is using the weapons aothers use is the result of freedom and the result of just 8 days in release with no high level specialists in certain skills and maybe also the result of lack of organisation with things not planned beforehand and just "lets attckl the city" approach ...
DarkFall on the way to EPIC win ..
hail DarkFall
..brought back MASSIVE into MMO
sorry but that title belongs to eve. Not until darkfall can produce a battle with 1k players involved, then it can contend for the title. But yep while the video did not prove there were 200 people, it was clear alot of people were involved and there was little to no lag.
I hope to see more vids soon. this is way better than posting 200 people massive battle crap and have nothing to back it up with. Videos are a good source for that. youll see later on more vids will pop up. Especially from goonswarm , knowing them and knowing their communities they will never send out a small group for a fight. they will come in masses.
EvE is not an option for many ..different genre and MMORPG had always a majority in fanatsy MMORPG with actual chars walking around in a world and not starships ..
not an EVE fan by any means, but maxnrosy is right you little DF fanboi, you should be glad the topic is on whether or not DF has brought "massive" back into mmo's instead of "DF has lowered the bar tremendously on MMO launches" and "DF proves once and for all independent companies cannot make an mmo"
Thanks for the video. I knew the graphics, animations and 3 attacks (MM, Bow, and Weapon) looked horrid in all the screenshots I have seen but I was willing to give it the benefit of the doubt and wait for something more concrete to display it.
The video looks just like the screens and reviews I have read, shallow mouth-breathing click-fest combat.
You just saved me 60 bucks.
QFT
You also saved me some money ... thanx.
Counterstrike is a mindless click fest in that case.
I lol'ed.
That's why it has been the focal point of competitive FPS gaming for 10 years?
"I believe in God, only I spell it Nature." - Frank Lloyd Wright
Too bad it's goon propaganda but ohh well, at least you see how all trolls calling it's lag fest was wrong. www.youtube.com/watch
MhaaaahaHAaaHHHAaAAA.... rotf....
OMg, that is the funniest video I ever saw! Do you see ANY skill in that combat video? Everyone is just spamming mana missles and later running around knife fighting.
Half the time people are swinging in open air... missing their targets and it's juts one big cluster f%ck. Honestly, go look at that video again and ask yourself does it take ANY skill to play this game? 80% is luck! They aren't targeting an individual, they are just spaming, hoping to hit someone!
Oh, and isn't a tad wierd that EVERYONE is doing the same thing, so much for skill based system and playing a role, instead of a class.
Darkfall = Epic fail
repeating the same stuff in every thread and in every post gets old and become tiring...
Missing ..is result of bad aiming ..and indicating skill to hit successfully instead of computed *miss * or *hit* after button mashing in usual MMORPG's..if they spam a lot they loose stamina a lot what will reduce their chances in being succesfull in that combat ..again skill..
Everyone is using the weapons aothers use is the result of freedom and the result of just 8 days in release with no high level specialists in certain skills and maybe also the result of lack of organisation with things not planned beforehand and just "lets attckl the city" approach ...
DarkFall on the way to EPIC win ..
hail DarkFall
..brought back MASSIVE into MMO
sorry but that title belongs to eve. Not until darkfall can produce a battle with 1k players involved, then it can contend for the title. But yep while the video did not prove there were 200 people, it was clear alot of people were involved and there was little to no lag.
I hope to see more vids soon. this is way better than posting 200 people massive battle crap and have nothing to back it up with. Videos are a good source for that. youll see later on more vids will pop up. Especially from goonswarm , knowing them and knowing their communities they will never send out a small group for a fight. they will come in masses.
EvE is not an option for many ..different genre and MMORPG had always a majority in fanatsy MMORPG with actual chars walking around in a world and not starships ..
not an EVE fan by any means, but maxnrosy is right you little DF fanboi, you should be glad the topic is on whether or not DF has brought "massive" back into mmo's instead of "DF has lowered the bar tremendously on MMO launches" and "DF proves once and for all independent companies cannot make an mmo"
LOL you sure EvE wasn't product of a small independent company ?..but we will see EvE's numbers if they implement a proper groundgame..Can you do a simple walk on a planet in EvE?
btw You try to belitle me ..and you should stop these ..mmkay ?
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE-------------------------------------------------- $OE - eternal enemy of online gaming -We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
not an EVE fan by any means, but maxnrosy is right you little DF fanboi, you should be glad the topic is on whether or not DF has brought "massive" back into mmo's instead of "DF has lowered the bar tremendously on MMO launches" and "DF proves once and for all independent companies cannot make an mmo"
You are pretty funny and clueless at same time. CCP was even smaller company while they launched EVE. For first month is was unplayable piece of shit. Look at it now. I really love EVE but I think DF requires more player skill during fight.
BTW. Introduce friendly fire and manual targeting to EVE and we will see how stable and how many people can play. If all you see during this 1000 battles in eve are bunch of dots all over the screen then you can't compare it to other mmorpgs.
Oh give me a break about EVE, which is basically a screensaver with the occasional zap as lasers.
No individuality between ships, no skill based combat, your avatar just stands there as a picture, the world is spread around by gates which are zoned servers basically.
Eve is great, and thats why its liked and played by many, one of the few growing game populations.
Too bad it's goon propaganda but ohh well, at least you see how all trolls calling it's lag fest was wrong. www.youtube.com/watch
MhaaaahaHAaaHHHAaAAA.... rotf....
OMg, that is the funniest video I ever saw! Do you see ANY skill in that combat video? Everyone is just spamming mana missles and later running around knife fighting.
Half the time people are swinging in open air... missing their targets and it's juts one big cluster f%ck. Honestly, go look at that video again and ask yourself does it take ANY skill to play this game? 80% is luck! They aren't targeting an individual, they are just spaming, hoping to hit someone!
Oh, and isn't a tad wierd that EVERYONE is doing the same thing, so much for skill based system and playing a role, instead of a class.
Darkfall = Epic fail
repeating the same stuff in every thread and in every post gets old and become tiring...
Missing ..is result of bad aiming ..and indicating skill to hit successfully instead of computed *miss * or *hit* after button mashing in usual MMORPG's..if they spam a lot they loose stamina a lot what will reduce their chances in being succesfull in that combat ..again skill..(confirmed wins of outnumbered minority win battles)
Everyone is using the weapons aothers use is the result of freedom and the result of just 8 days in release with no high level specialists in certain skills and maybe also the result of lack of organisation with things not planned beforehand and just "lets attckl the city" approach ...
DarkFall on the way to EPIC win ..
hail DarkFall
..brought back MASSIVE into MMO
What? For every lie some fanboi spews, I will be here to correct them or guide them back to reality, based on past games and logic.
Missing? Who where they missing, they aren't even aiming.. There must be 30 mana missles in the air hoping to hit their targets, what are people getting 15% success rate on their attacks? It's nothing more than granade throwing in COD or Battlefield. Where is the COMBAT? All i keep seeing is the same thing..!
Secondly, the whole stamina thing is a joke and you know it. The fact people are more worried about their stamina, than their own health implies an extremely bad implamentation of combat. Specially when stamina isn't working correctly. Why does wearing Platmail not consume 3x the stamina as cloth or leather. Wizard types (ranged) can move freely about the battles field placing their attackes more precisely, etc....?
I played an archer in Ultima Online from day one, never used a sword in combat never wanted to wield one. Everyone is Darkfall is the SAME, because Aventurine has failed at implamenting a sandbox skill system and their skill trees are even remotely finished or even working. Thus... full armor and carry a big stick= Alpha template.
Have you ever played Battlefield 2142..? (Be honest!)
not an EVE fan by any means, but maxnrosy is right you little DF fanboi, you should be glad the topic is on whether or not DF has brought "massive" back into mmo's instead of "DF has lowered the bar tremendously on MMO launches" and "DF proves once and for all independent companies cannot make an mmo"
You are pretty funny and clueless at same time. CCP was even smaller company while they launched EVE. For first month is was unplayable piece of shit. Look at it now. I really love EVE but I think DF requires more player skill during fight.
BTW. Introduce friendly fire and manual targeting to EVE and we will see how stable and how many people can play. If all you see during this 1000 battles in eve are bunch of dots all over the screen then you can't compare it to other mmorpgs.
trying to prove a point, but you said it yourself, EvE was shit at launch, again was trying to prove a point.
And yes, EVE was the 1st to bring massive back into mmo not Darkfall.
You sitting here because you a troll..i am also feeling sad for you having such few alternatives in your life then wasting your time on something you not like and writing useless post.. The video delivers ..people who like MASSIVE battles can't wait to be part of the EPIC battles.. hail DarkFall ..Aventurine brought back MASSIVE in to MMO
Dude... whay aren't you playing Darkfall... RIGHT NOW, then.....?
Secondly, there isn't anything massive about this game. Many of us played "massive" years ago and did all the large scale battles. Perhaps you only 19, new to mmorpg and this is the first game where you've seen 30 vs 30 or soemthing, but there is nothing revolutionary, or hardcore about Darkfall. It's nothing other than a very bad FPS game, with a limited amount of attacks.
How can you argue that? Game is 2 weeks old and nobody stands out as a good player or different from anybody else. I didn't see one person duck+swing when being attacked... not ONE! When i was in beta I had all kinds of combat macro set up. Jump+overhead swing, etc. Combat is just boring and stale... I'm an exceptional player and nothing within this game allowed me to build on that!
Darkfall may be the most restrictive game i have ever played. I had a bank full of stuff, 3k in gold and nothing to do with any of it and no reason to collect more. WTF is that?
You sitting here because you a troll..i am also feeling sad for you having such few alternatives in your life then wasting your time on something you not like and writing useless post.. The video delivers ..people who like MASSIVE battles can't wait to be part of the EPIC battles.. hail DarkFall ..Aventurine brought back MASSIVE in to MMO
I'm an exceptional player and nothing within this game allowed me to build on that!
Originally posted by rageagainst Originally posted by drago_pl
Originally posted by rageagainst not an EVE fan by any means, but maxnrosy is right you little DF fanboi, you should be glad the topic is on whether or not DF has brought "massive" back into mmo's instead of "DF has lowered the bar tremendously on MMO launches" and "DF proves once and for all independent companies cannot make an mmo"
You are pretty funny and clueless at same time. CCP was even smaller company while they launched EVE. For first month is was unplayable piece of shit. Look at it now. I really love EVE but I think DF requires more player skill during fight. BTW. Introduce friendly fire and manual targeting to EVE and we will see how stable and how many people can play. If all you see during this 1000 battles in eve are bunch of dots all over the screen then you can't compare it to other mmorpgs. trying to prove a point, but you said it yourself, EvE was shit at launch, again was trying to prove a point.
And yes, EVE was the 1st to bring massive back into mmo not Darkfall.
Can't argue with that. EVE was first to bring massive into mmo. That's why I played it well over 2 years. Still Darkfall is first that bring massive to character control mmorpgs. There is a long way for DF before it will be at current stage of EVE while talking about features but as for now I really like it and I can assure you many other people will be playing it because there are no other options really (besides EVE but not everyone likes being space ship :P)
*Looks at the video* sigh I'd just like to add that the ideas/concepts that the game tries to realize are noble ones. But Aventurine are obviously the wrong developers to do it. From looking at that video and all the others I have seen over the last month, it's very clear that AV doesn't have the talent or backing--the potential producers can also see they don't have the talent--to pull it off at a level of quality that is acceptible to me.
UUUMMMM, they have pulled off what alot of bigger companies never have, and what many indy companies have failed trying. WIsh, shadowbane (was there but not as good as df) thrones of chaos, dark and light, horizons, ect. ect. The list goes on and on. RIght now darkfall is not perfect but is a hell of a fantastic game. There were alot of ideas that were cut, some fo which i am sad about. But the core of the game is fantastic and is still there. I am literially on the verge of saying I enjoy this game more then I did UO.
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2.Manual targeting is worse than auto targeting because you can manual target IRL? Are you serious?
3. All spells have different animations. MM is just first one and everyone start with it. You don't need reagent to use it and it is the shittiest spell in game.
Addressing the above two.
2. I am unsure where I said "auto targeting is better because you can manual target IRL". I did, however, say that you can swing a sword IRL.
3. Thanks for correcting me, but I have yet to see any video with new spells, anyone care to share?
And in response to what ever tool told me to educate myself... well, I would, but DF's main site is so poorly done that the only way to find information is by skimming through the main forums, which are filled with illiterate fools, such as yourself.
"I believe in God, only I spell it Nature." - Frank Lloyd Wright
MhaaaahaHAaaHHHAaAAA.... rotf....
OMg, that is the funniest video I ever saw! Do you see ANY skill in that combat video? Everyone is just spamming mana missles and later running around knife fighting.
Half the time people are swinging in open air... missing their targets and it's juts one big cluster f%ck. Honestly, go look at that video again and ask yourself does it take ANY skill to play this game? 80% is luck! They aren't targeting an individual, they are just spaming, hoping to hit someone!
Oh, and isn't a tad wierd that EVERYONE is doing the same thing, so much for skill based system and playing a role, instead of a class.
Darkfall = Epic fail
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Yeah... they achieved it after 5 years of constant game polishing. Aventurine achieved it after 7 days. I played EVE a lot and really love it (this is for damian7) but you can't compare games with auto-targeting and manual targeting like that. Besides EVE have nothing else but static ships in empty space and in last year was lagging like hell even with 100v100 battles and of course maximum zoom out like 90% of EVE players have while in fleet battle.
Drago_pl let me give you a word of advice. Do not under estimate goonswarm. I personally have a few rl friends who are in goonswarm. Any game they get into they dominate it. Do not this this is some little community. Its fucking (pardon) huge. They were mocked in eve yet they were the only ones to terminate bob after many humiliating defeats. They entered eve as a small collective, eve players bashed them , insulted them so you know what they did. They brought the damn swarm. If they get into 1 df server their clan alone will consist of over 3k players.
Like i said they are no joke. Dont think that darkfalls twitch combat will deter them. They dont care if they die or even suck at the game. They always travel in huge numbers.
I never underestimate my enemy. I have nothing against they zerg strategy, for me that is strategy like any other if it leads to victory. I just don't like they spamming and generally it's fun fighting with bigger ones
MhaaaahaHAaaHHHAaAAA.... rotf....
OMg, that is the funniest video I ever saw! Do you see ANY skill in that combat video? Everyone is just spamming mana missles and later running around knife fighting.
Half the time people are swinging in open air... missing their targets and it's juts one big cluster f%ck. Honestly, go look at that video again and ask yourself does it take ANY skill to play this game? 80% is luck! They aren't targeting an individual, they are just spaming, hoping to hit someone!
Oh, and isn't a tad wierd that EVERYONE is doing the same thing, so much for skill based system and playing a role, instead of a class.
Darkfall = Epic fail
How come you havent been banned yet for trolling? I mean DF section is all you post in with "Fail" being your sig, you must copy paste the same sentences over and over LOL
I agree. I play MMORPGs for auto targeting. If I don't want auto targeting, I play Call of Duty or Battlefield. Sometimes it's about me (Call of Duty) sometimes it's about my character (DAoC and other decent MMORPGs).
Okay, that's your opinion. But I'm all for diversity, I really believe twitch combat can be applied to melee/archery/magic successfully (and not to be caged in FPS games forever), even though few games have made it interesting/deep (Mount & Blade as a prime example). There are already thousands of games with auto attack out there, having a few without it won't hurt.
About the video, I guess it's too early to judge Darkfall mass battles, assuming in the future (1-3 months) we'll have more variety of magic spells or maybe siege weapons.
MhaaaahaHAaaHHHAaAAA.... rotf....
OMg, that is the funniest video I ever saw! Do you see ANY skill in that combat video? Everyone is just spamming mana missles and later running around knife fighting.
Half the time people are swinging in open air... missing their targets and it's juts one big cluster f%ck. Honestly, go look at that video again and ask yourself does it take ANY skill to play this game? 80% is luck! They aren't targeting an individual, they are just spaming, hoping to hit someone!
Oh, and isn't a tad wierd that EVERYONE is doing the same thing, so much for skill based system and playing a role, instead of a class.
Darkfall = Epic fail
QFT. They always say that clicking takes skill, but anytime I watch a video its just click spam. Maybe I am missing someting, IDK.
"I believe in God, only I spell it Nature." - Frank Lloyd Wright
MhaaaahaHAaaHHHAaAAA.... rotf....
OMg, that is the funniest video I ever saw! Do you see ANY skill in that combat video? Everyone is just spamming mana missles and later running around knife fighting.
Half the time people are swinging in open air... missing their targets and it's juts one big cluster f%ck. Honestly, go look at that video again and ask yourself does it take ANY skill to play this game? 80% is luck! They aren't targeting an individual, they are just spaming, hoping to hit someone!
Oh, and isn't a tad wierd that EVERYONE is doing the same thing, so much for skill based system and playing a role, instead of a class.
Darkfall = Epic fail
repeating the same stuff in every thread and in every post gets old and become tiring...
Missing ..is result of bad aiming ..and indicating skill to hit successfully instead of computed *miss * or *hit* after button mashing in usual MMORPG's..if they spam a lot they loose stamina a lot what will reduce their chances in being succesfull in that combat ..again skill..(confirmed wins of outnumbered minority win battles)
Everyone is using the weapons aothers use is the result of freedom and the result of just 8 days in release with no high level specialists in certain skills and maybe also the result of lack of organisation with things not planned beforehand and just "lets attckl the city" approach ...
DarkFall on the way to EPIC win ..
hail DarkFall
..brought back MASSIVE into MMO
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE--------------------------------------------------
$OE - eternal enemy of online gaming
-We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
MhaaaahaHAaaHHHAaAAA.... rotf....
OMg, that is the funniest video I ever saw! Do you see ANY skill in that combat video? Everyone is just spamming mana missles and later running around knife fighting.
Half the time people are swinging in open air... missing their targets and it's juts one big cluster f%ck. Honestly, go look at that video again and ask yourself does it take ANY skill to play this game? 80% is luck! They aren't targeting an individual, they are just spaming, hoping to hit someone!
Oh, and isn't a tad wierd that EVERYONE is doing the same thing, so much for skill based system and playing a role, instead of a class.
Darkfall = Epic fail
repeating the same stuff in every thread and in every post gets old and become tiring...
Missing ..is result of bad aiming ..and indicating skill to hit successfully instead of computed *miss * or *hit* after button mashing in usual MMORPG's..if they spam a lot they loose stamina a lot what will reduce their chances in being succesfull in that combat ..again skill..
Everyone is using the weapons aothers use is the result of freedom and the result of just 8 days in release with no high level specialists in certain skills and maybe also the result of lack of organisation with things not planned beforehand and just "lets attckl the city" approach ...
DarkFall on the way to EPIC win ..
hail DarkFall
..brought back MASSIVE into MMO
I feel so bad for people who are such fanboys that they can't even look at this pile of trash and see it for what it is.
I am sitting here watching videos and thinking "I can't beleive people actually wasted 60 dollars on this game!"
Guess I will just be sitting here in 3 months saying "I told you so."
"I believe in God, only I spell it Nature." - Frank Lloyd Wright
2. I like how it's different from many other mmorpgs. It takes a lot more skill to actually hit someone. Each swing costs you stamina so if you are swinging in air you will fast die to someone who actually know when to hit. Yeah, some luck is involved but at least hit chance is not based on some strange character statistic (and someone calling it pure luck when in every other game its determinated by random generator and some equation).
3. To name a few I tried (or saw monster using) in beta:
DoT poison - green bolt, swarm attack - something like group of bees attacking enemy, firebolt - standard animation, healing - something that looks like red lighting, target paint- you can hit enemy and then he will have white ball of energy jumping over his head so it can be used for calling primaries in fight
There are many more kind of spells like AoE, Volcano, spells affected by gravity like arrows. Sorry, if you want to see it in action leave this forums and come back in a month.
I'm not happy with ordering system at all. I would be playing right now instead of posting here :P But just because ordering suck that doesn't mean game is crap. In fact I'm still amazed how this company managed to make such a fun game with low budget and overall chaos we are seeing now. I'm still waiting for MO and Eartrise but as for now DF is best game out there without any doubts.
I agree. I play MMORPGs for auto targeting. If I don't want auto targeting, I play Call of Duty or Battlefield. Sometimes it's about me (Call of Duty) sometimes it's about my character (DAoC and other decent MMORPGs).
Ok, then Darkfall isn't for you. Some of us want to manually target in our MMO.
Move on.
Other games that might suit your interests are that way----
I seriously don't know how can anyone whine about one of main features of Darkfall while 99% of other mmorpgs have what they like (auto targeting). Go away from this game. It will not change to auto-targeting just because you like smashing 1-9 while watching tv.
Yes, some games..! But, do you see anyone "targeting" in this game either? They are just spamming whatever attack in the general direction and aiming is nothing other than facing or chasing your enemy.
Here: PvP Knowing who to attack, what spell to cast, when to counter or even coordinate a series of attackes has more depth, than just swinging a weapon. Magic the Gathering is a combat game that takes place in your MIND and requires deep thinking and often countering instead of dmg dealing is more benifical. Most MMORPG's have this aspect about them.
I'm starting to beleive that the only people who are enjoying Darkfall or thugs who like to beat on things without having to use their brain for anything. Combat is so incredible stale... and the adrenal rush comes from cro-magnon part of the brain. Darkfall is not hardcore, it is for unintelligent people who wish they could take a trip to Rwanda for a weekend and play lord of the flies once and a while.
Pethetic!
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MhaaaahaHAaaHHHAaAAA.... rotf....
OMg, that is the funniest video I ever saw! Do you see ANY skill in that combat video? Everyone is just spamming mana missles and later running around knife fighting.
Half the time people are swinging in open air... missing their targets and it's juts one big cluster f%ck. Honestly, go look at that video again and ask yourself does it take ANY skill to play this game? 80% is luck! They aren't targeting an individual, they are just spaming, hoping to hit someone!
Oh, and isn't a tad wierd that EVERYONE is doing the same thing, so much for skill based system and playing a role, instead of a class.
Darkfall = Epic fail
repeating the same stuff in every thread and in every post gets old and become tiring...
Missing ..is result of bad aiming ..and indicating skill to hit successfully instead of computed *miss * or *hit* after button mashing in usual MMORPG's..if they spam a lot they loose stamina a lot what will reduce their chances in being succesfull in that combat ..again skill..
Everyone is using the weapons aothers use is the result of freedom and the result of just 8 days in release with no high level specialists in certain skills and maybe also the result of lack of organisation with things not planned beforehand and just "lets attckl the city" approach ...
DarkFall on the way to EPIC win ..
hail DarkFall
..brought back MASSIVE into MMO
sorry but that title belongs to eve. Not until darkfall can produce a battle with 1k players involved, then it can contend for the title. But yep while the video did not prove there were 200 people, it was clear alot of people were involved and there was little to no lag.
I hope to see more vids soon. this is way better than posting 200 people massive battle crap and have nothing to back it up with. Videos are a good source for that. youll see later on more vids will pop up. Especially from goonswarm , knowing them and knowing their communities they will never send out a small group for a fight. they will come in masses.
Watching Fanbois drop their soap in a prison full of desperate men.
MhaaaahaHAaaHHHAaAAA.... rotf....
OMg, that is the funniest video I ever saw! Do you see ANY skill in that combat video? Everyone is just spamming mana missles and later running around knife fighting.
Half the time people are swinging in open air... missing their targets and it's juts one big cluster f%ck. Honestly, go look at that video again and ask yourself does it take ANY skill to play this game? 80% is luck! They aren't targeting an individual, they are just spaming, hoping to hit someone!
Oh, and isn't a tad wierd that EVERYONE is doing the same thing, so much for skill based system and playing a role, instead of a class.
Darkfall = Epic fail
repeating the same stuff in every thread and in every post gets old and become tiring...
Missing ..is result of bad aiming ..and indicating skill to hit successfully instead of computed *miss * or *hit* after button mashing in usual MMORPG's..if they spam a lot they loose stamina a lot what will reduce their chances in being succesfull in that combat ..again skill..
Everyone is using the weapons aothers use is the result of freedom and the result of just 8 days in release with no high level specialists in certain skills and maybe also the result of lack of organisation with things not planned beforehand and just "lets attckl the city" approach ...
DarkFall on the way to EPIC win ..
hail DarkFall
..brought back MASSIVE into MMO
I feel so bad for people who are such fanboys that they can't even look at this pile of trash and see it for what it is.
I am sitting here watching videos and thinking "I can't beleive people actually wasted 60 dollars on this game!"
Guess I will just be sitting here in 3 months saying "I told you so."
You sitting here because you a troll..i am also feeling sad for you having such few alternatives in your life then wasting your time on something you not like and writing useless post..
The video delivers ..people who like MASSIVE battles can't wait to be part of the EPIC battles..
hail DarkFall
..Aventurine brought back MASSIVE in to MMO
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE--------------------------------------------------
$OE - eternal enemy of online gaming
-We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
QFT
You also saved me some money ... thanx.
Counterstrike is a mindless click fest in that case. Just b/c you see a video with someone with no skill doesn't mean the game lacks skill. Melee is pretty stupid 1v1 (though circle strafing with goldeneye controls while dodging blows by crouching and jumping DOES require skill no doubt), think about GROUPS, melee in GROUPS of people in DF requires more skill than melee in any other mmo; but I'm appalled people expected more from archery and magery, which are great (magic is horridly done PROGRESSION wise but combat wise its fine) .
And the graphics are fine, its a shame that they got an animator that couldn't animate doom 1 to save his life, b/c other than those the graphics are great, and its sad to see how many graphic wh0res they are losing, w/e maybe its for the best, they can go ruin MO and leave it as soon as AoC2 is released.
Though yeah, the devs worked on like nothing else other than making a smooth game world and engine. I've never seen features so horridly implimented in any serious p2p mmo. I mean while you're making a game for 8 years, wouldn't you go off on a limb and THINK how you should impliment the feature you've been making for the past 10 months... I blame marijuana
When I'm energetic I'm:
the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.
When I'm at default I'm:
WHITE/BLUE
Lol according to this I'm bipolar :O
MhaaaahaHAaaHHHAaAAA.... rotf....
OMg, that is the funniest video I ever saw! Do you see ANY skill in that combat video? Everyone is just spamming mana missles and later running around knife fighting.
Half the time people are swinging in open air... missing their targets and it's juts one big cluster f%ck. Honestly, go look at that video again and ask yourself does it take ANY skill to play this game? 80% is luck! They aren't targeting an individual, they are just spaming, hoping to hit someone!
Oh, and isn't a tad wierd that EVERYONE is doing the same thing, so much for skill based system and playing a role, instead of a class.
Darkfall = Epic fail
repeating the same stuff in every thread and in every post gets old and become tiring...
Missing ..is result of bad aiming ..and indicating skill to hit successfully instead of computed *miss * or *hit* after button mashing in usual MMORPG's..if they spam a lot they loose stamina a lot what will reduce their chances in being succesfull in that combat ..again skill..
Everyone is using the weapons aothers use is the result of freedom and the result of just 8 days in release with no high level specialists in certain skills and maybe also the result of lack of organisation with things not planned beforehand and just "lets attckl the city" approach ...
DarkFall on the way to EPIC win ..
hail DarkFall
..brought back MASSIVE into MMO
sorry but that title belongs to eve. Not until darkfall can produce a battle with 1k players involved, then it can contend for the title. But yep while the video did not prove there were 200 people, it was clear alot of people were involved and there was little to no lag.
I hope to see more vids soon. this is way better than posting 200 people massive battle crap and have nothing to back it up with. Videos are a good source for that. youll see later on more vids will pop up. Especially from goonswarm , knowing them and knowing their communities they will never send out a small group for a fight. they will come in masses.
EvE is not an option for many ..different genre and MMORPG had always a majority in fantasy MMORPG with actual chars walking around in a world and not starships ..sorry but 300 people in a medievel setting and a siege will always count more to many people then 1000 in a black space..
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE--------------------------------------------------
$OE - eternal enemy of online gaming
-We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
MhaaaahaHAaaHHHAaAAA.... rotf....
OMg, that is the funniest video I ever saw! Do you see ANY skill in that combat video? Everyone is just spamming mana missles and later running around knife fighting.
Half the time people are swinging in open air... missing their targets and it's juts one big cluster f%ck. Honestly, go look at that video again and ask yourself does it take ANY skill to play this game? 80% is luck! They aren't targeting an individual, they are just spaming, hoping to hit someone!
Oh, and isn't a tad wierd that EVERYONE is doing the same thing, so much for skill based system and playing a role, instead of a class.
Darkfall = Epic fail
repeating the same stuff in every thread and in every post gets old and become tiring...
Missing ..is result of bad aiming ..and indicating skill to hit successfully instead of computed *miss * or *hit* after button mashing in usual MMORPG's..if they spam a lot they loose stamina a lot what will reduce their chances in being succesfull in that combat ..again skill..
Everyone is using the weapons aothers use is the result of freedom and the result of just 8 days in release with no high level specialists in certain skills and maybe also the result of lack of organisation with things not planned beforehand and just "lets attckl the city" approach ...
DarkFall on the way to EPIC win ..
hail DarkFall
..brought back MASSIVE into MMO
sorry but that title belongs to eve. Not until darkfall can produce a battle with 1k players involved, then it can contend for the title. But yep while the video did not prove there were 200 people, it was clear alot of people were involved and there was little to no lag.
I hope to see more vids soon. this is way better than posting 200 people massive battle crap and have nothing to back it up with. Videos are a good source for that. youll see later on more vids will pop up. Especially from goonswarm , knowing them and knowing their communities they will never send out a small group for a fight. they will come in masses.
EvE is not an option for many ..different genre and MMORPG had always a majority in fanatsy MMORPG with actual chars walking around in a world and not starships ..
not an EVE fan by any means, but maxnrosy is right you little DF fanboi, you should be glad the topic is on whether or not DF has brought "massive" back into mmo's instead of "DF has lowered the bar tremendously on MMO launches" and "DF proves once and for all independent companies cannot make an mmo"
When I'm energetic I'm:
the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.
When I'm at default I'm:
WHITE/BLUE
Lol according to this I'm bipolar :O
QFT
You also saved me some money ... thanx.
Counterstrike is a mindless click fest in that case.
I lol'ed.
That's why it has been the focal point of competitive FPS gaming for 10 years?
"I believe in God, only I spell it Nature." - Frank Lloyd Wright
MhaaaahaHAaaHHHAaAAA.... rotf....
OMg, that is the funniest video I ever saw! Do you see ANY skill in that combat video? Everyone is just spamming mana missles and later running around knife fighting.
Half the time people are swinging in open air... missing their targets and it's juts one big cluster f%ck. Honestly, go look at that video again and ask yourself does it take ANY skill to play this game? 80% is luck! They aren't targeting an individual, they are just spaming, hoping to hit someone!
Oh, and isn't a tad wierd that EVERYONE is doing the same thing, so much for skill based system and playing a role, instead of a class.
Darkfall = Epic fail
repeating the same stuff in every thread and in every post gets old and become tiring...
Missing ..is result of bad aiming ..and indicating skill to hit successfully instead of computed *miss * or *hit* after button mashing in usual MMORPG's..if they spam a lot they loose stamina a lot what will reduce their chances in being succesfull in that combat ..again skill..
Everyone is using the weapons aothers use is the result of freedom and the result of just 8 days in release with no high level specialists in certain skills and maybe also the result of lack of organisation with things not planned beforehand and just "lets attckl the city" approach ...
DarkFall on the way to EPIC win ..
hail DarkFall
..brought back MASSIVE into MMO
sorry but that title belongs to eve. Not until darkfall can produce a battle with 1k players involved, then it can contend for the title. But yep while the video did not prove there were 200 people, it was clear alot of people were involved and there was little to no lag.
I hope to see more vids soon. this is way better than posting 200 people massive battle crap and have nothing to back it up with. Videos are a good source for that. youll see later on more vids will pop up. Especially from goonswarm , knowing them and knowing their communities they will never send out a small group for a fight. they will come in masses.
EvE is not an option for many ..different genre and MMORPG had always a majority in fanatsy MMORPG with actual chars walking around in a world and not starships ..
not an EVE fan by any means, but maxnrosy is right you little DF fanboi, you should be glad the topic is on whether or not DF has brought "massive" back into mmo's instead of "DF has lowered the bar tremendously on MMO launches" and "DF proves once and for all independent companies cannot make an mmo"
LOL you sure EvE wasn't product of a small independent company ?..but we will see EvE's numbers if they implement a proper groundgame..Can you do a simple walk on a planet in EvE?
btw You try to belitle me ..and you should stop these ..mmkay ?
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You are pretty funny and clueless at same time. CCP was even smaller company while they launched EVE. For first month is was unplayable piece of shit. Look at it now. I really love EVE but I think DF requires more player skill during fight.
BTW. Introduce friendly fire and manual targeting to EVE and we will see how stable and how many people can play. If all you see during this 1000 battles in eve are bunch of dots all over the screen then you can't compare it to other mmorpgs.
Oh give me a break about EVE, which is basically a screensaver with the occasional zap as lasers.
No individuality between ships, no skill based combat, your avatar just stands there as a picture, the world is spread around by gates which are zoned servers basically.
Eve is great, and thats why its liked and played by many, one of the few growing game populations.
But come on stop with the ass kissing.
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OMg, that is the funniest video I ever saw! Do you see ANY skill in that combat video? Everyone is just spamming mana missles and later running around knife fighting.
Half the time people are swinging in open air... missing their targets and it's juts one big cluster f%ck. Honestly, go look at that video again and ask yourself does it take ANY skill to play this game? 80% is luck! They aren't targeting an individual, they are just spaming, hoping to hit someone!
Oh, and isn't a tad wierd that EVERYONE is doing the same thing, so much for skill based system and playing a role, instead of a class.
Darkfall = Epic fail
repeating the same stuff in every thread and in every post gets old and become tiring...
Missing ..is result of bad aiming ..and indicating skill to hit successfully instead of computed *miss * or *hit* after button mashing in usual MMORPG's..if they spam a lot they loose stamina a lot what will reduce their chances in being succesfull in that combat ..again skill..(confirmed wins of outnumbered minority win battles)
Everyone is using the weapons aothers use is the result of freedom and the result of just 8 days in release with no high level specialists in certain skills and maybe also the result of lack of organisation with things not planned beforehand and just "lets attckl the city" approach ...
DarkFall on the way to EPIC win ..
hail DarkFall
..brought back MASSIVE into MMO
What? For every lie some fanboi spews, I will be here to correct them or guide them back to reality, based on past games and logic.
Missing? Who where they missing, they aren't even aiming.. There must be 30 mana missles in the air hoping to hit their targets, what are people getting 15% success rate on their attacks? It's nothing more than granade throwing in COD or Battlefield. Where is the COMBAT? All i keep seeing is the same thing..!
Secondly, the whole stamina thing is a joke and you know it. The fact people are more worried about their stamina, than their own health implies an extremely bad implamentation of combat. Specially when stamina isn't working correctly. Why does wearing Platmail not consume 3x the stamina as cloth or leather. Wizard types (ranged) can move freely about the battles field placing their attackes more precisely, etc....?
I played an archer in Ultima Online from day one, never used a sword in combat never wanted to wield one. Everyone is Darkfall is the SAME, because Aventurine has failed at implamenting a sandbox skill system and their skill trees are even remotely finished or even working. Thus... full armor and carry a big stick= Alpha template.
Have you ever played Battlefield 2142..? (Be honest!)
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You are pretty funny and clueless at same time. CCP was even smaller company while they launched EVE. For first month is was unplayable piece of shit. Look at it now. I really love EVE but I think DF requires more player skill during fight.
BTW. Introduce friendly fire and manual targeting to EVE and we will see how stable and how many people can play. If all you see during this 1000 battles in eve are bunch of dots all over the screen then you can't compare it to other mmorpgs.
trying to prove a point, but you said it yourself, EvE was shit at launch, again was trying to prove a point.
And yes, EVE was the 1st to bring massive back into mmo not Darkfall.
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Dude... whay aren't you playing Darkfall... RIGHT NOW, then.....?
Secondly, there isn't anything massive about this game. Many of us played "massive" years ago and did all the large scale battles. Perhaps you only 19, new to mmorpg and this is the first game where you've seen 30 vs 30 or soemthing, but there is nothing revolutionary, or hardcore about Darkfall. It's nothing other than a very bad FPS game, with a limited amount of attacks.
How can you argue that? Game is 2 weeks old and nobody stands out as a good player or different from anybody else. I didn't see one person duck+swing when being attacked... not ONE! When i was in beta I had all kinds of combat macro set up. Jump+overhead swing, etc. Combat is just boring and stale... I'm an exceptional player and nothing within this game allowed me to build on that!
Darkfall may be the most restrictive game i have ever played. I had a bank full of stuff, 3k in gold and nothing to do with any of it and no reason to collect more. WTF is that?
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I'm an exceptional player and nothing within this game allowed me to build on that!
Wish I could be as exceptional as you, sir.
You are pretty funny and clueless at same time. CCP was even smaller company while they launched EVE. For first month is was unplayable piece of shit. Look at it now. I really love EVE but I think DF requires more player skill during fight.
BTW. Introduce friendly fire and manual targeting to EVE and we will see how stable and how many people can play. If all you see during this 1000 battles in eve are bunch of dots all over the screen then you can't compare it to other mmorpgs.
trying to prove a point, but you said it yourself, EvE was shit at launch, again was trying to prove a point.
And yes, EVE was the 1st to bring massive back into mmo not Darkfall.
Can't argue with that. EVE was first to bring massive into mmo. That's why I played it well over 2 years. Still Darkfall is first that bring massive to character control mmorpgs. There is a long way for DF before it will be at current stage of EVE while talking about features but as for now I really like it and I can assure you many other people will be playing it because there are no other options really (besides EVE but not everyone likes being space ship :P)
UUUMMMM, they have pulled off what alot of bigger companies never have, and what many indy companies have failed trying. WIsh, shadowbane (was there but not as good as df) thrones of chaos, dark and light, horizons, ect. ect. The list goes on and on. RIght now darkfall is not perfect but is a hell of a fantastic game. There were alot of ideas that were cut, some fo which i am sad about. But the core of the game is fantastic and is still there. I am literially on the verge of saying I enjoy this game more then I did UO.