You are NOT a player. The game hasn't been released. You were not giving any "feedback". You were providing questions to which they could not possibly have the answer to.
Actually people did answer me. One guy said they were using the Unreal 3 engine, so the game would be easier to make and have better combat. I thought that was a real good answer. So don't give me this nonsense that nobody could answer it.
Which again, you could have found out... by... reading. But ok. Think I figured your post out now...
"Hey Ghoul, they shouldn't have banned you, dude! That was hella wrong! What an unfair thing to do!"
Honestly, it's a business, that's all it is. They aren't trying to "learn" anything.
Are you kidding? Every MMORPG makes tons of changes based on feedback from players.
You are NOT a player. The game hasn't been released. You were not giving any "feedback". You were providing questions to which they could not possibly have the answer to.
Why has that not occurred to you?
That's a horrible argument. He's a potential player, which means that potentially he might be willing to dish out money for the company. Now whether he made a good post or a bad one, he has every right to generate feedback to the business. Telling him he is not a player and that the game hasn't been released just makes you look bad.
Also, you contradict yourself when you said, "....they could not possibly have the answer to [your questions]"...then in a later post you said, "Which again, you could have found out... by... reading". Which means there are actually potential answers to his questions, which means you kicked yourself in the balls. +1 for fallacy.
But back on topic. The ban seems a bit harsh, but it's official forums, what did you expect?
Also, you contradict yourself when you said, "....they could not possibly have the answer to [your questions]"...then in a later post you said, "Which again, you could have found out... by... reading". Which means there are actually potential answers to his questions, which means you kicked yourself in the balls. +1 for fallacy.
I don't see it that way. The OP asked how they were different from the previously mentioned scams and failures. The reply "we're using a different engine" isn't an any more significant than "we have a different title" or "our devs have emo haircuts".
The fallacy here is in A) Thinking that the devs could have answered this question as it was posed or Being so simple-headed as to accept that equivocal non-answer as something meaningful.
That's a horrible argument. He's a potential player, which means that potentially he might be willing to dish out money for the company. Now whether he made a good post or a bad one, he has every right to generate feedback to the business. Telling him he is not a player and that the game hasn't been released just makes you look bad.
Also, you contradict yourself when you said, "....they could not possibly have the answer to [your questions]"...then in a later post you said, "Which again, you could have found out... by... reading". Which means there are actually potential answers to his questions, which means you kicked yourself in the balls. +1 for fallacy.
But back on topic. The ban seems a bit harsh, but it's official forums, what did you expect?
Just simply taking him on his "word" that is the only reason he got banned is quite liberal. I agree that just posting a question such as that one he posted in that thread would not necessarily warrant a ban.
But again, other than his version how do we know that was all that was said/done and there was no harrassment with other posters by email, no hacking accounts, no other violations of ToS?
The argument above if you follow the conversation between he and I, was in reponse to his "how are they going to learn anything?" comment. I was merely pointing out that in his particular case, he was giving them nothing to 'learn' and was just asking questions. You can clearly see his train jumped the tracks there, not mine.
I suggest you try re-reading the entire progression, instead of just the last two posts which is usually the case people do when they are in error defending/attacking someone.
Once again, you are just as mistaken as he is by assuming his questions are "feedback" to a stated "What do you think?" or "Anyone have any questions on the game design?" He made his own question thread looking for answers that he claims were answered (he says) so that's why I said he could have done that himself, as the Dev said. I got a feeling you didn't read his link, so I'll post it again:
That's a horrible argument. He's a potential player, which means that potentially he might be willing to dish out money for the company. Now whether he made a good post or a bad one, he has every right to generate feedback to the business. Telling him he is not a player and that the game hasn't been released just makes you look bad.
Also, you contradict yourself when you said, "....they could not possibly have the answer to [your questions]"...then in a later post you said, "Which again, you could have found out... by... reading". Which means there are actually potential answers to his questions, which means you kicked yourself in the balls. +1 for fallacy.
But back on topic. The ban seems a bit harsh, but it's official forums, what did you expect?
Now seriously, how do you expect someone to respond to THIS post, or take it as real?
ghoul's post title:
"Do you really have any hope for this game?"
"There have been a lot of small companies trying to make revolutionary sandbox pvp games. Dark and Light, Roma Victor, Mourning, Shadowbane and now Darkfall.
And they all have been failures. What makes you think this game will be any different? I don't think small companies have the resources to pull off a complete MMORPG."
Dev response:
Dear OP, if you had taken some of your time to actually read about the game. Done your homework on whos creating the game and spent hours on reading swedish text with a dictionary on the little nifty pdf's, instead of posting that question. You could then see the radiance of this game that seeps out from the backlight of your screen , pulsating and mindbobbling combat that would leave the geeks screaming in pleasure.
-StJudas
Meh anyway its a lock..
I see no "learning" to be gleaned here by any developer or company. It actually looks semi-trolly based on some of his other postings. And contrary to what you try and interject, it certainly doesn't look like he's contemplating being a potential customer.
Point is: BAD post. Didn't even deserve to get as far as it did in that thread. The mod should have been faster on the lock if you ask me.
Just simply taking him on his "word" that is the only reason he got banned is quite liberal. I agree that just posting a question such as that one he posted in that thread would not necessarily warrant a ban.
But again, other than his version how do we know that was all that was said/done and there was no harrassment with other posters by email, no hacking accounts, no other violations of ToS?
The argument above if you follow the conversation between he and I, was in reponse to his "how are they going to learn anything?" comment. I was merely pointing out that in his particular case, he was giving them nothing to 'learn' and was just asking questions. You can clearly see his train jumped the tracks there, not mine.
I suggest you try re-reading the entire progression, instead of just the last two posts which is usually the case people do when they are in error defending/attacking someone.
Once again, you are just as mistaken as he is by assuming his questions are "feedback" to a stated "What do you think?" or "Anyone have any questions on the game design?" He made his own question thread looking for answers that he claims were answered (he says) so that's why I said he could have done that himself, as the Dev said. I got a feeling you didn't read his link, so I'll post it again:
Actually I did read the progression.
I didn't assume that his questions are feedback. I assumed that his question has a possibility of being feedback, whether it was or not. You on the other hand are assuming that his questions are not feedback. You do not know his exact intensions of the thread, so you cannot say that he ISN'T trying to generate feedback implicitly.
I didn't assume that his questions are feedback. I assumed that his question has a possibility of being feedback, whether it was or not. You on the other hand are assuming that his questions are not feedback. You do not know his exact intensions of the thread, so you cannot say that he ISN'T trying to generate feedback implicitly.
I'm not assuming anything. Unlike you, I read his original post on the Mortal site and I can tell by his title, his content of that post and his prior postings what his intentions clearly are.
The fact that you can't clearly is puzzling, because you seem so intelligent in your responses to me here.
I don't see it that way. The OP asked how they were different from the previously mentioned scams and failures. The reply "we're using a different engine" isn't an any more significant than "we have a different title" or "our devs have emo haircuts".
The unreal engine is a great tried and true engine. It will certainly save them lots of time since they don't have to make their own engine from scratch. So how can you say that isn't an answer? You aren't making any sense.
here's a couple of quotes to look at.
"Battle-tested by over 6.8 million hours of online player time, Unreal MCP seriously ups the ante for game engines," says Mark Rein, vice president of Epic Games. "The online infrastructure required for a modern, triple-A game represents man-years of work, and all of this is now included in Unreal Engine 3."
And for those developers who prefer their multiplayer to be massive, Epic China will be showing off their new integrated massively multiplayer online game backend solution, which should have MMO developers frothing at the mouth in joy.
I personally don't see anything wrong in his post. In free normal country, you should be able to state your opinion, be it positive or negative.
Yeah, let's all talk only good things. Reminds me of soviet union.
Well first of all, if you are referring to Freedom of Speech in the U.S., that does not mean you can say whatever you want whenever you want.
Secondly, this is a private company and their website. Game comapnies usually do control the type of discussions that are allowed on their sites. Especially since these websites are primarily a form of marketing for them.
And lastly, though Sweden does have Freedom of speech there are differences to Freedom of Speech in he U.S. Of course this is the internet but I believe Sweden does have laws that deal with content on websites making the owner of the site accountable for what is there.
I'm no expert on international law to say the least but I think it's plausible to believe that different countries deal with different subjects of law... er... "differently".
In the end, it's their site and they have the final say as to what goes on. It's obvious that they are not interested in that type of discussion being brought up.
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I was permantly banned from the official forums. here was my post
"There have been a lot of small companies trying to make revolutionary sandbox pvp games. Dark and Light, Roma Victor, Mourning, Shadowbane and now Darkfall. And they all have been failures. What makes you think this game will be any different? I don't think small companies have the resources to pull off a complete MMORPG."
I don't see anything banable in that. Its seems that the mods in that forum are even worse than the Darkfall forums. This isn't a good sign. It show sthat they have something to hide.
looking at your post, it does seem to be like you are challenging them and disparaging small mmo makers. I wonder if this would have been a more diplomatic post:
"There have been a lot of small companies trying to make revolutionary sandbox pvp games. Dark and Light, Roma Victor, Mourning, Shadowbane and now Darkfall.
Unfortunately they were not as successful as they could have been. What can you share with us about your company that sets it apart from the other companies and what do you think your company will do differently from those who have thrown their hat into the MMO arena.
Especially because it seems that there are many difficulties to be faced such as limited resources, to name one."
That just seems less incendiary.
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Absurd ban if you ask me. Just he lock would be enough. Not even worth a temporary ban. I suggest you email the comunity manager if they have something like that or one of the mods.
Hope MO doesn't turn into a game for mindless fanatics like Darkfall.
I was permantly banned from the official forums. here was my post
"There have been a lot of small companies trying to make revolutionary sandbox pvp games. Dark and Light, Roma Victor, Mourning, Shadowbane and now Darkfall. And they all have been failures. What makes you think this game will be any different? I don't think small companies have the resources to pull off a complete MMORPG."
I don't see anything banable in that. Its seems that the mods in that forum are even worse than the Darkfall forums. This isn't a good sign. It show sthat they have something to hide.
This'is not a good sign
I'm afraid MO is going to be the next DFO (we know nothing about this game)
Your question seems to be legitimate to me. I see no troll there.
"the company that made mourning made the terrain editor for MO."
Are you SERIOUS ? oO
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", if you had taken some of your time to actually read about the game. Done your homework on whos creating the game and spent hours on reading swedish text with a dictionary on the little nifty pdf's, instead of posting that question. You could then see the radiance of this game that seeps out from the backlight of your screen , pulsating and mindbobbling combat that would leave the geeks screaming in pleasure.
-StJudas
Meh anyway its a lock.."
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I'm sorry but as a potential subscriber i don't like that looks like a mix between AOC and DFO forums. Not good .
With the release of Darkfall, the poor mods at MO forums have been swamped with these kinds of retards lately. Oh, and anyone who claims "not much" is known about MO, hasn't been following it. Please start thinking before posting. Kthnxbai
I was permantly banned from the official forums. here was my post
"There have been a lot of small companies trying to make revolutionary sandbox pvp games. Dark and Light, Roma Victor, Mourning, Shadowbane and now Darkfall. And they all have been failures. What makes you think this game will be any different? I don't think small companies have the resources to pull off a complete MMORPG."
I don't see anything banable in that. Its seems that the mods in that forum are even worse than the Darkfall forums. This isn't a good sign. It show sthat they have something to hide.
Your statment comes across as pretty rude actually. It basicly says "You guys should just give up now why even bother? You will fail just like the other small companies did." So yeah I see why they banned you. LOL its acctually a pretty bold statment man, obviously they felt disrepected by it. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out...
That the mod decided to close your thread is a no brainer. That he would have given you a warning wouldn't surprise me. That the moderator decided to BAN you because of your thread, is extreme, and people supporting that ban are idiots imo.
Most likely have you been warned a couple of times before, and that resulted in the ban that followed when you got a new warning.
That the mod decided to close your thread is a no brainer. That he would have given you a warning wouldn't surprise me. That the moderator decided to BAN you because of your thread, is extreme, and people supporting that ban are idiots imo.
Most likely have you been warned a couple of times before, and that resulted in the ban that followed when you got a new warning.
That's at least what I think happened.
I had never been warned before. I had only made a few posts total in that forum
I dont think MO will be just PvP oriented. For shure PvP will have huge role in the world but will not be so PvP centric like Darkfall. It will be best to have equal need of PvP players, PvE players and crafters and everyone need the other to survive.
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they all have been failures. What makes you think this game will be any different? I don't think small companies have the resources to pull off a complete MMORPG."
No, you deserved it for typing this crap in their offical forum. What gives you the right to call their game a failure before it even launched and your disrespect for the company.
They are sure you are definitely not a potential customer just a troublemaker. I would have banned you too if i am the boss.
Well, after spending a bit of time over on the MO forums I see they are heavily moderated and seem to even have a mission statement in their FAQ to this effect.
They are determined to run a 'tight' forum, where multiple /repeat posts of the same subject are strongly discouraged, both mods and the membership there love to jump in and tell people to use the search tool for answers rather than let them ask questions and have others respond.
That's one way to run a forum, not one that I care for so I suspect I'll be staying away from their boards for the most part.
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they all have been failures. What makes you think this game will be any different? I don't think small companies have the resources to pull off a complete MMORPG."
No, you deserved it for typing this crap in their offical forum. What gives you the right to call their game a failure before it even launched and your disrespect for the company.
They are sure you are definitely not a potential customer just a troublemaker. I would have banned you too if i am the boss.
I didn't call their game a failure. I asked why it wasn't going to be a failure like those other games. And I got some good answers.
Your full of crap. I don't think they banned you. There mods are great. There are plenty of topics on there tht kinda dog em but they leave em there. One that is very popular is "So far what disappoints most about MO"
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Which again, you could have found out... by... reading. But ok. Think I figured your post out now...
"Hey Ghoul, they shouldn't have banned you, dude! That was hella wrong! What an unfair thing to do!"
"TO MICHAEL!"
Are you kidding? Every MMORPG makes tons of changes based on feedback from players.
You are NOT a player. The game hasn't been released. You were not giving any "feedback". You were providing questions to which they could not possibly have the answer to.
Why has that not occurred to you?
That's a horrible argument. He's a potential player, which means that potentially he might be willing to dish out money for the company. Now whether he made a good post or a bad one, he has every right to generate feedback to the business. Telling him he is not a player and that the game hasn't been released just makes you look bad.
Also, you contradict yourself when you said, "....they could not possibly have the answer to [your questions]"...then in a later post you said, "Which again, you could have found out... by... reading". Which means there are actually potential answers to his questions, which means you kicked yourself in the balls. +1 for fallacy.
But back on topic. The ban seems a bit harsh, but it's official forums, what did you expect?
The OP forgot to ask them to demonstrate how they were better than Snake-Oil salesmen and Bernie Madoff.
They were definitely trying to hide something- annoying posters they didn't want on their website!
I don't see it that way. The OP asked how they were different from the previously mentioned scams and failures. The reply "we're using a different engine" isn't an any more significant than "we have a different title" or "our devs have emo haircuts".
The fallacy here is in A) Thinking that the devs could have answered this question as it was posed or
Being so simple-headed as to accept that equivocal non-answer as something meaningful.
Just simply taking him on his "word" that is the only reason he got banned is quite liberal. I agree that just posting a question such as that one he posted in that thread would not necessarily warrant a ban.
But again, other than his version how do we know that was all that was said/done and there was no harrassment with other posters by email, no hacking accounts, no other violations of ToS?
The argument above if you follow the conversation between he and I, was in reponse to his "how are they going to learn anything?" comment. I was merely pointing out that in his particular case, he was giving them nothing to 'learn' and was just asking questions. You can clearly see his train jumped the tracks there, not mine.
I suggest you try re-reading the entire progression, instead of just the last two posts which is usually the case people do when they are in error defending/attacking someone.
Once again, you are just as mistaken as he is by assuming his questions are "feedback" to a stated "What do you think?" or "Anyone have any questions on the game design?" He made his own question thread looking for answers that he claims were answered (he says) so that's why I said he could have done that himself, as the Dev said. I got a feeling you didn't read his link, so I'll post it again:
"TO MICHAEL!"
Now seriously, how do you expect someone to respond to THIS post, or take it as real?
I see no "learning" to be gleaned here by any developer or company. It actually looks semi-trolly based on some of his other postings. And contrary to what you try and interject, it certainly doesn't look like he's contemplating being a potential customer.
Point is: BAD post. Didn't even deserve to get as far as it did in that thread. The mod should have been faster on the lock if you ask me.
"TO MICHAEL!"
Just simply taking him on his "word" that is the only reason he got banned is quite liberal. I agree that just posting a question such as that one he posted in that thread would not necessarily warrant a ban.
But again, other than his version how do we know that was all that was said/done and there was no harrassment with other posters by email, no hacking accounts, no other violations of ToS?
The argument above if you follow the conversation between he and I, was in reponse to his "how are they going to learn anything?" comment. I was merely pointing out that in his particular case, he was giving them nothing to 'learn' and was just asking questions. You can clearly see his train jumped the tracks there, not mine.
I suggest you try re-reading the entire progression, instead of just the last two posts which is usually the case people do when they are in error defending/attacking someone.
Once again, you are just as mistaken as he is by assuming his questions are "feedback" to a stated "What do you think?" or "Anyone have any questions on the game design?" He made his own question thread looking for answers that he claims were answered (he says) so that's why I said he could have done that himself, as the Dev said. I got a feeling you didn't read his link, so I'll post it again:
Actually I did read the progression.
I didn't assume that his questions are feedback. I assumed that his question has a possibility of being feedback, whether it was or not. You on the other hand are assuming that his questions are not feedback. You do not know his exact intensions of the thread, so you cannot say that he ISN'T trying to generate feedback implicitly.
I'm not assuming anything. Unlike you, I read his original post on the Mortal site and I can tell by his title, his content of that post and his prior postings what his intentions clearly are.
The fact that you can't clearly is puzzling, because you seem so intelligent in your responses to me here.
"TO MICHAEL!"
The unreal engine is a great tried and true engine. It will certainly save them lots of time since they don't have to make their own engine from scratch. So how can you say that isn't an answer? You aren't making any sense.
here's a couple of quotes to look at.
"Battle-tested by over 6.8 million hours of online player time, Unreal MCP seriously ups the ante for game engines," says Mark Rein, vice president of Epic Games. "The online infrastructure required for a modern, triple-A game represents man-years of work, and all of this is now included in Unreal Engine 3."
And for those developers who prefer their multiplayer to be massive, Epic China will be showing off their new integrated massively multiplayer online game backend solution, which should have MMO developers frothing at the mouth in joy.
You brought nothing constructive to the forum.
Im ok with you being banned.
We have bengetting flooded by Darkfall customers and the forums have taken a nosedive. I hope they start banning more.
I personally don't see anything wrong in his post. In free normal country, you should be able to state your opinion, be it positive or negative.
Yeah, let's all talk only good things. Reminds me of soviet union.
Well first of all, if you are referring to Freedom of Speech in the U.S., that does not mean you can say whatever you want whenever you want.
Secondly, this is a private company and their website. Game comapnies usually do control the type of discussions that are allowed on their sites. Especially since these websites are primarily a form of marketing for them.
And lastly, though Sweden does have Freedom of speech there are differences to Freedom of Speech in he U.S. Of course this is the internet but I believe Sweden does have laws that deal with content on websites making the owner of the site accountable for what is there.
I'm no expert on international law to say the least but I think it's plausible to believe that different countries deal with different subjects of law... er... "differently".
In the end, it's their site and they have the final say as to what goes on. It's obvious that they are not interested in that type of discussion being brought up.
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looking at your post, it does seem to be like you are challenging them and disparaging small mmo makers. I wonder if this would have been a more diplomatic post:
"There have been a lot of small companies trying to make revolutionary sandbox pvp games. Dark and Light, Roma Victor, Mourning, Shadowbane and now Darkfall.
Unfortunately they were not as successful as they could have been. What can you share with us about your company that sets it apart from the other companies and what do you think your company will do differently from those who have thrown their hat into the MMO arena.
Especially because it seems that there are many difficulties to be faced such as limited resources, to name one."
That just seems less incendiary.
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Absurd ban if you ask me. Just he lock would be enough. Not even worth a temporary ban. I suggest you email the comunity manager if they have something like that or one of the mods.
Hope MO doesn't turn into a game for mindless fanatics like Darkfall.
This'is not a good sign
I'm afraid MO is going to be the next DFO
(we know nothing about this game)
Your question seems to be legitimate to me. I see no troll there.
"the company that made mourning made the terrain editor for MO."
Are you SERIOUS ? oO
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", if you had taken some of your time to actually read about the game. Done your homework on whos creating the game and spent hours on reading swedish text with a dictionary on the little nifty pdf's, instead of posting that question. You could then see the radiance of this game that seeps out from the backlight of your screen , pulsating and mindbobbling combat that would leave the geeks screaming in pleasure.
-StJudas
Meh anyway its a lock.."
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I'm sorry but as a potential subscriber i don't like that
looks like a mix between AOC and DFO forums. Not good .
Before you take OPs side you might want to read all his other posts on the MO board, then you might understand why he got banned.
This "question" was just the final straw.
If it's not broken, you are not innovating.
With the release of Darkfall, the poor mods at MO forums have been swamped with these kinds of retards lately. Oh, and anyone who claims "not much" is known about MO, hasn't been following it. Please start thinking before posting. Kthnxbai
Your statment comes across as pretty rude actually. It basicly says "You guys should just give up now why even bother? You will fail just like the other small companies did." So yeah I see why they banned you. LOL its acctually a pretty bold statment man, obviously they felt disrepected by it. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out...
That the mod decided to close your thread is a no brainer. That he would have given you a warning wouldn't surprise me. That the moderator decided to BAN you because of your thread, is extreme, and people supporting that ban are idiots imo.
Most likely have you been warned a couple of times before, and that resulted in the ban that followed when you got a new warning.
That's at least what I think happened.
It is preferable not to travel with a dead man.
I had never been warned before. I had only made a few posts total in that forum
I dont think MO will be just PvP oriented. For shure PvP will have huge role in the world but will not be so PvP centric like Darkfall. It will be best to have equal need of PvP players, PvE players and crafters and everyone need the other to survive.
Where themepark games try to hide that they are copying WOW, games like Mortal Online and Darkfall make no attempt to hide their inspiration
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No, you deserved it for typing this crap in their offical forum. What gives you the right to call their game a failure before it even launched and your disrespect for the company.
They are sure you are definitely not a potential customer just a troublemaker. I would have banned you too if i am the boss.
Well, after spending a bit of time over on the MO forums I see they are heavily moderated and seem to even have a mission statement in their FAQ to this effect.
They are determined to run a 'tight' forum, where multiple /repeat posts of the same subject are strongly discouraged, both mods and the membership there love to jump in and tell people to use the search tool for answers rather than let them ask questions and have others respond.
That's one way to run a forum, not one that I care for so I suspect I'll be staying away from their boards for the most part.
Pretty sure they won't miss me.
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No, you deserved it for typing this crap in their offical forum. What gives you the right to call their game a failure before it even launched and your disrespect for the company.
They are sure you are definitely not a potential customer just a troublemaker. I would have banned you too if i am the boss.
I didn't call their game a failure. I asked why it wasn't going to be a failure like those other games. And I got some good answers.
Your full of crap. I don't think they banned you. There mods are great. There are plenty of topics on there tht kinda dog em but they leave em there. One that is very popular is "So far what disappoints most about MO"