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And that was the end to your credibility. AoC animations are bad... haha Laughable!
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lol
This is not the right way...
Even if AoC has its mistakes, music, sounds, graphics and animations arent one of them. Very realistic and motion captured animations fit to ralistic approach of game very well. Fatalities are also great fresh air into the game, but I can agree with one thing and that is, you cant control your char in the time of fatality animation.
Also if your animations arent smooth check your Internet connection.
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Lotro and Vanguard are the games with the worst ring animation.
Guild Wars and even WoW have a more deep and complex ring animation than Lotro and Vg.
The only two MMOs with complex and deep animation from facial to combat animation are Everquest 2 and Age of Conan.
What I said is not my opinion, it is a fact, it doesnt matter if you prefer ring or montion capture, even for typical ring animation Lotro is a bad (really bad) example, Lotro is well known for bad animations side by side with Vanguard.
Again, this is the technical animation reality of these games (and I even really like Vanguard), it seems the fact you enjoy Lotro just made you blind for some gaming aspects, nothing wrong with that, but you should at least try to inform yourself before express such opinions without a real base.
Im sorry but you are the one "blinded by fanboitus".
If you had at least used a good ring animation to show you "prefer" hand animated models than motion capture, but Lotro???:
The next absurd thing would be if you start to use Lotro mounts and riding as a good technical example among MMOs
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Gotta love the Super Fans, you express your opinion and they tell you your opinion is wrong.
FC bragged about all the mo-cap they used to make the animations, seems like the person / people they capped weren't exactly the most graceful of atheletes. There is a very small librabry of animations with very little variation. All characters when jumping do 'hurdles', even wow has atleast 2 different 'jump' motions per race. The mo-capping was just another bragging point they over-hyped and under executed.
next time we will se better animation? we should, things should improve with time.
Are animations in AoC bad? no, not at all, they are very good, and very well implemented, far from perfect, yes, and they used to have a lot more locks and problems at start, yes, but most of that has dissapeared, far from perfect but calling them bad and pretty bad just smells off bias and grasping straws to criticize the game.
You could then (to rise the bar) criticize the graphic qualities of the game and the sound and music.
At first hand, Everquest 2 still has a deeper motion capture animation expression than AOC, especially when we talk about facial animations etc.
Bu you clearly used the worst example of MMO animation to critizise AOC´s animations, I know you cleary dont know much about the technical side as you expressed here, but you really, really should say what you said to yourself, not others... so, Solareus: " When you learn to get over yourself and look at games unbiasly then just maybe you will be able to have a conversation with me."
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Technical aspects and rational arguments related to games as sound quality, animation quality, amount of content, zoning time are not asthetical subjetive aspects.
What the OP expressed is NOT a matter of opinion.
The fact he prefer Lotro´s animation is a matter of opinion, when he expressed Age of Conan animations are technicaly bad comparing to Lotro´s he tried to express a non subjetive rational truth, and he is wrong.
You are just using this to attack the game and its players one more time for personal reasons.
It would be the same if someone expressed, without clarifying it is just his preference, the audio quality in Darkfall is superior to a bluray movie audio quality
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I can understand not agreeing with with the OPs position, I can't understand the need to tell them their opinion is not valid.
As for the graphics, well rendered, poor choice of art direction. FC's vision of Hyborea looks more like Price Valiant than Conan. Bizzare to see so much freshly polished armor and pastel landscapes, instead of dirt, blood and rust. under gloomy skies. I guess teh AD had never seen Frank Frazetta's version of Conan's world. Their was only one or two of areas that felt 'Conan' to me, mostly spider caves and the small swamp area just before Tortage.
You are just using this to attack the game and its players one more time for personal reasons.
Seems more like players are 'attacking' another player who chooses to look at everything criticaly and not just gush "Best Ever!'
No worse than the many posters...you included(at least I believe I've seen your name on most AoC threads...i may be wrong)..that flock here like seagulls on a french fry whenever a positive comment is made. I will agree, however, that some of the combat animations get screwy ...jumping or skipping frames to get to another animation for combos/finishing moves...victims bodies enlarging or shrinking oddly. Most of the basic animations are good though and not game breaking IMO.
that was a genuine thing to complaint about my post, but basically it was a mirror effect to his pointing out that those that had a different oppinion in regards to animation were biased, i should have made an obvious caption to emphasize that.
"When you learn to get over yourself and look at games unbiasly then just maybe you will be able to have a conversation with me" that off course could have been to single out one particular poster, but the bias do shows when he passes from his appreciation of the quality of animations in the game (specially if you look at what he has posted in regards with animation and other games before) and extrapolates into arrogance by the company that did (etc..etc..etc...)
He passes from his unbiased review to a direct attack, which invalidates his ef proposed idea of unbiased, notice how i haven't discused against those that in valid and unbiased way post about what they don't like about the game, and even can agree with them, unbiased oinions, sadly Solareous self proclamation of an unbiased review doesn't look like an "unbiased" one.
While I respect your opinion, I must strongly disagree. You must either have an inferior computer, or a horrible Internet connection. I don't even play this anymore and I will defend it... The animations in this game are brillant and fluid on a nice machine. I found that to be one of the better points of the game. I would change your ISP, upgrade your computer, take a lesson or two in grammer, and post a follow up...lol.
I gotta disagree as well I'm afraid - L2 animations are good too but nowhere near as good as AoC
Just check out the girl mounting her horse in the following clip at about 26 seconds:
You are just using this to attack the game and its players one more time for personal reasons.
Seems more like players are 'attacking' another player who chooses to look at everything criticaly and not just gush "Best Ever!'
There was no personal attacks to Solareus, you where the one trying to label people here.
A lot of rational posts pro AOC animations are not even from AOC players (including me), there was no "BestEver!" post, as I said, the only one ready to attack for personal reasons is you.
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Lol you fanbois crack me up. The AoC animations are not top notch because he has a bad internet connection?
What's next? I found Age of Conan endgame to be extremely boring because I have an old wheel mouse?
Give me a break..
You are just using this to attack the game and its players one more time for personal reasons.
Seems more like players are 'attacking' another player who chooses to look at everything criticaly and not just gush "Best Ever!'
There was no personal attacks to Solareus, you where the one trying to label people here.
A lot of rational posts pro AOC animations are not even from AOC players (including me), there was no "BestEver!" post, as I said, the only one ready to attack for personal reasons is you.
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"And that was the end to your credibility"
"you are the one "blinded by fanboitus"
"but this is just troll"
Please point out the 'not playing' posters in this thread, I must not being seeing the 'subscriber' flag next to their names
If a background is needed i work animation since max was 3d studio max 2, i also animate in maya when it was just newely evolved from the Alias Power Animator,XSI since it was softimage and use a variety of tools that have changed names hands and have been absorved by those programs over the years.
i know how to animate form scratch, i know how to work motion capture (tho it's nothing close to what i normally do)
I work as 3d modeler/animator, but that was irrelevant to point my stance, until you try to pull rank by your experience in modifying for games, which i started doing when Max 2.5 was hot new. Sorry, both our backgrounds are irrelevant, the technical knowledge is not needed to appreciate the results, it just allows you to know or have an idea of how is it done.
Two things were always pretty bad in AoC, in my opinion, aesthetically: The trees and some of the animations. I could never get how characters floated forward and how their feet moved like they were skating on ice, even though they were always standing one spot. It's like they're all fighting on ice because their upper body movements have to match with their foot movements. Maybe that's just nitpicky but it's what I saw. However, the upper body animations were pretty good. Fatalities, meh. I think they were a bit over-the-top too.
Trees look like pale green cotton balls, not realistic at all.
The part about ice skating was a pretty common bug during the first months, so it might have been that, unless you have played recently and have somehow noticed ice-skating. I remember exactly what you say, but that was fixed a long time ago though.
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