Hookay, being a huge Superhero comic fan I followed the ongoings of Superhero themed MMos with great curiosity. CoH, while being a cool game, was somehow quite limited with its repetitive missions.
I admit I am a much greater fan of Marvel than of DC. I mean Batman is ok and some, but generally the Marvel comics are a tad better to read. Too cryptic and complicated entranglements of story-arcs there over at DC. And Champions... ok, it may be a solid PnP game, but I never had heard of the Champions comic universe before and nothing I see about Champions Online really thrills me. It looks just quite odd with that CellShade style. While SOE's DCU looks decend enough. So far. But truth be told neither DCU nor Champions Online kicked me out of my shoes. So all in all I really hope for a really cool, big Superhero MMO based on Marvel.
Still, the biggest question is: is there still space? I guess DCU will be a success, not skyrocketing, but I am sure it will establish well. With Champions I am not so sure. Unknown franchise when you have the chance to meet Batman, Superman, Wonder Women and whoever? Cellshading when you can watch the relatively cool DCU graphics? I think Champions is going to be in a hard time. Still, how much part of the pie is left for Marvel? They would need a really good company, Blizzard or Turbine. The IDEAL Superhero MMO however would be a really big one with both DC and Marvel, heh.
Btw, their own News speakes of "games" - in plural. So it may well be a simple browser kid game first and something else later. I would not get my hopes too high for the moment anyway. If they start this now we are still many years away from anything substantial. 2015 maybe, hehe.
People don't ask questions to get answers - they ask questions to show how smart they are. - Dogbert
I would like to know how the superhero mmo market is "saturated"? There is exactly 1 superhero mmo on the market today. One. And there are two more on the way. 1+2 = 3. How many fantasy mmos that are on the market can you list? I can list five without even thinking about it. I'm sure many of you can list even more without effort. How about science fiction? There's quite a few of those too. More than three, I'll tell ya that! If this mmo is even half-way decent I doubt it'll fail. Too many fans. And that's good. It means there's competition and choice. So, can we please stop calling doom when the only detail we know of is the name of the company?
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If you were designing this Marvel MMO, what fun things would you like to do for more than a year ? If there cannot be 5000 copies of your favorite Marvel superhero running around in the same city, who would you expect to be ?
I think what is important while playing any big comic book MMORPGs is that it is importnat that the gamer would be able to play any comic book story arc that he wish. Take for example DC Universe Online. Early video trailers show that there would be an event about Superman fighting Doomsday and it's up to the gamers choice to either help Supes or help in capturing doomsday. With a vast library of comic book arcs the possiilities are endless!
This game, just like every comic book MMORPG released, is not for everybody. I think they are targeting persons of the comic book community that has not jumped yet into the MMORPG bandwagon...
If you were designing this Marvel MMO, what fun things would you like to do for more than a year ? If there cannot be 5000 copies of your favorite Marvel superhero running around in the same city, who would you expect to be ?
yeah...
i think given a month or so everybody would be wolverine or iron man...
12 year olds aren't the comicbook hounds they used to be so targeting them is some sort of attempt to recapture their imagination and hopefully try and sell a few more books. Probably a dumbed down doof-fest = No challenge = no interest, 12 year olds aren't the idiots these game companies would have them be. Next.
"The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion." -Edmund Burke
Who will rise up for me against the evildoers? or who will stand up for me against the workers of iniquity?" (Psalm 94:16)
I just hope to actualy see a superhero MMORPG, sorry CoH/V seem fine games, tried and even subbed to them but they are far from what I would consider a MMORPG as to me personaly they felt like a regular multiplayer game with more customisation options and quests.
Champions online looks very similar but think they might do a few nice suprises with the game, overall not seeing much MMORPG in it, same goes for DCUO, evne thought the game is already named NOT a MMORPG but a action online game is more what I feel it is going to be, just a action online game.
Now I can only hope that the Marvel MMORPG will be closer to it being a MMORPG instead of the same route many company's are following right now, which to me is the multiplayer route instead of the MMORPG route.
Forbes.com paraphrased (Hutter) as saying, "...Most people unaccustomed to MMOs might be intimidated by complex games like 'Warcraft,' Hutter says trends in technology suggest the audience for simple, well-designed games will grow quickly. The runaway success of Nintendo's Wii proved virgin gamers will try new titles if they are easy to play, while the boom in social networks like Facebook suggests people of all ages are looking for new ways to interact online, he says."
Mmmm Hardcore. I think he's saying if you play WoW you live in your mom's garage. Bastard. I love that garage.
Hey, I resent that! How dare you or anyone assume the stereotype that I live in my mother's garage just because I play World of Warcraft! I find that offensive. I'm not Fonzy! I don't live in my mom's garage. I live in her spare bedroom.
What Happened With SWG Went Down YEARS AGO! Please Try To Stop Whining About It In Every Thread I Read. Mourn It, And Finally MOVE ON With Your Lives! Thanks A Heap.
Marvel Universe is an "adult game" of the "kids game" (Super Hero Squad)?
We'll say it's a "mass market" game, but you can probably call it the adult version.
The kids' version, or our first product to market, is Marvel Super Hero Squad, which was a specific attempt by the folks at Marvel to reach all the young kids that love the Marvel characters.
Marvel Universe is an "adult game" of the "kids game" (Super Hero Squad)?
We'll say it's a "mass market" game, but you can probably call it the adult version.
The kids' version, or our first product to market, is Marvel Super Hero Squad, which was a specific attempt by the folks at Marvel to reach all the young kids that love the Marvel characters.
Comments
Oh, I can see it now!
Coming soon:
John Romero is going to make you his bitch (for real this time) in...
John Romero's Marvel Universe Online
Now you can be Supafly's sidekick and face the forces of giant green mosquitos!
Another ho hum heros MMO. Sorry the genre is already saturated. This is a complete waste of time if you ask me.
Too many idiots throwing too much money at the MMO genre. Most are going to fail. This one will probably one of them.
Too bad they can throw their money at something innovative, they might actually have a chance at a hit.
in fairness, there have been zero details about what the Marvel Universe mmo will entail
beyond the fact that is being developed by a new studio, Gargantuan
www.gazillion.com/studios.php
the only game with a few details is SuperHero Squad for kids -- a browser game
EQ2 fan sites
Hookay, being a huge Superhero comic fan I followed the ongoings of Superhero themed MMos with great curiosity. CoH, while being a cool game, was somehow quite limited with its repetitive missions.
I admit I am a much greater fan of Marvel than of DC. I mean Batman is ok and some, but generally the Marvel comics are a tad better to read. Too cryptic and complicated entranglements of story-arcs there over at DC. And Champions... ok, it may be a solid PnP game, but I never had heard of the Champions comic universe before and nothing I see about Champions Online really thrills me. It looks just quite odd with that CellShade style. While SOE's DCU looks decend enough. So far. But truth be told neither DCU nor Champions Online kicked me out of my shoes. So all in all I really hope for a really cool, big Superhero MMO based on Marvel.
Still, the biggest question is: is there still space? I guess DCU will be a success, not skyrocketing, but I am sure it will establish well. With Champions I am not so sure. Unknown franchise when you have the chance to meet Batman, Superman, Wonder Women and whoever? Cellshading when you can watch the relatively cool DCU graphics? I think Champions is going to be in a hard time. Still, how much part of the pie is left for Marvel? They would need a really good company, Blizzard or Turbine. The IDEAL Superhero MMO however would be a really big one with both DC and Marvel, heh.
Btw, their own News speakes of "games" - in plural. So it may well be a simple browser kid game first and something else later. I would not get my hopes too high for the moment anyway. If they start this now we are still many years away from anything substantial. 2015 maybe, hehe.
People don't ask questions to get answers - they ask questions to show how smart they are. - Dogbert
I would like to know how the superhero mmo market is "saturated"? There is exactly 1 superhero mmo on the market today. One. And there are two more on the way. 1+2 = 3. How many fantasy mmos that are on the market can you list? I can list five without even thinking about it. I'm sure many of you can list even more without effort. How about science fiction? There's quite a few of those too. More than three, I'll tell ya that! If this mmo is even half-way decent I doubt it'll fail. Too many fans. And that's good. It means there's competition and choice. So, can we please stop calling doom when the only detail we know of is the name of the company?
What Happened With SWG Went Down YEARS AGO! Please Try To Stop Whining About It In Every Thread I Read. Mourn It, And Finally MOVE ON With Your Lives! Thanks A Heap.
If you were designing this Marvel MMO, what fun things would you like to do for more than a year ? If there cannot be 5000 copies of your favorite Marvel superhero running around in the same city, who would you expect to be ?
I think what is important while playing any big comic book MMORPGs is that it is importnat that the gamer would be able to play any comic book story arc that he wish. Take for example DC Universe Online. Early video trailers show that there would be an event about Superman fighting Doomsday and it's up to the gamers choice to either help Supes or help in capturing doomsday. With a vast library of comic book arcs the possiilities are endless!
This game, just like every comic book MMORPG released, is not for everybody. I think they are targeting persons of the comic book community that has not jumped yet into the MMORPG bandwagon...
yeah...
i think given a month or so everybody would be wolverine or iron man...
... which would be sad...
This looks shaky.
12 year olds aren't the comicbook hounds they used to be so targeting them is some sort of attempt to recapture their imagination and hopefully try and sell a few more books. Probably a dumbed down doof-fest = No challenge = no interest, 12 year olds aren't the idiots these game companies would have them be. Next.
"The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion." -Edmund Burke
Who will rise up for me against the evildoers? or who will stand up for me against the workers of iniquity?"
(Psalm 94:16)
I just hope to actualy see a superhero MMORPG, sorry CoH/V seem fine games, tried and even subbed to them but they are far from what I would consider a MMORPG as to me personaly they felt like a regular multiplayer game with more customisation options and quests.
Champions online looks very similar but think they might do a few nice suprises with the game, overall not seeing much MMORPG in it, same goes for DCUO, evne thought the game is already named NOT a MMORPG but a action online game is more what I feel it is going to be, just a action online game.
Now I can only hope that the Marvel MMORPG will be closer to it being a MMORPG instead of the same route many company's are following right now, which to me is the multiplayer route instead of the MMORPG route.
there are no details yet but I do get concerned when I see things like this, from the Chief Executive of Gazillion
World of Warcraft is for "hardcore" young male gamers
www.massively.com/2009/03/22/world-of-warcraft-is-for-hardcore-young-male-gamers/
Forbes.com paraphrased (Hutter) as saying, "...Most people unaccustomed to MMOs might be intimidated by complex games like 'Warcraft,' Hutter says trends in technology suggest the audience for simple, well-designed games will grow quickly. The runaway success of Nintendo's Wii proved virgin gamers will try new titles if they are easy to play, while the boom in social networks like Facebook suggests people of all ages are looking for new ways to interact online, he says."
whats Gazillion going to create? easier mmos ?
EQ2 fan sites
Mmmm Hardcore.
I think he's saying if you play WoW you live in your mom's garage. Bastard. I love that garage.
Hey, I resent that! How dare you or anyone assume the stereotype that I live in my mother's garage just because I play World of Warcraft! I find that offensive. I'm not Fonzy! I don't live in my mom's garage. I live in her spare bedroom.
What Happened With SWG Went Down YEARS AGO! Please Try To Stop Whining About It In Every Thread I Read. Mourn It, And Finally MOVE ON With Your Lives! Thanks A Heap.
Gazillion interview at joystiq
www.joystiq.com/2009/03/30/gdc09-joystiq-interviews-gazillion-vp-about-marvel-mmos-lego-u/
has a promo screen for browser-based mmo SuperHero Squad
EQ2 fan sites
i wish they would drop the superhero squad theme and make a game that would target older mmorpg players...
i have a bad feeling about this... i think DC universe Online would win this fight...
they are making an older player mmo -- Marvel Universe
from the link I posted
www.joystiq.com/2009/03/30/gdc09-joystiq-interviews-gazillion-vp-about-marvel-mmos-lego-u/
Marvel Universe is an "adult game" of the "kids game" (Super Hero Squad)?
We'll say it's a "mass market" game, but you can probably call it the adult version.
The kids' version, or our first product to market, is Marvel Super Hero Squad, which was a specific attempt by the folks at Marvel to reach all the young kids that love the Marvel characters.
EQ2 fan sites
they are making an older player mmo -- Marvel Universe
from the link I posted
www.joystiq.com/2009/03/30/gdc09-joystiq-interviews-gazillion-vp-about-marvel-mmos-lego-u/
Marvel Universe is an "adult game" of the "kids game" (Super Hero Squad)?
We'll say it's a "mass market" game, but you can probably call it the adult version.
The kids' version, or our first product to market, is Marvel Super Hero Squad, which was a specific attempt by the folks at Marvel to reach all the young kids that love the Marvel characters.
Well that's good to hear
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