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Choosing between Classic and...not classic.
Clobster
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With the patcher not working it's going to take a little while for me to get back into the game, but even when I do get in I'm not sure where I should go. I've never played before on the classic servers, and I've been told that Trials of Atlantis really ruined the game. I'm not very familiar with all of the expansions, but the last time I played was when the vampiir, bainshee and heretic were all coming out.
Anyway, is it worth playing with the expansions, or better to go for the classic servers? The only major concern I have is graphics updates. Does the game still look good on the classic servers since certain expansions upgraded the graphics? Please post your advice or arguments for classic or regular servers so I can arrive at a good decision.
If it factors in at all, I would like to play a Warden. I always thought blade turn sounded like the coolest thing since sliced bread, and would love to finally dedicate some real time to it. The only other class I've really played is a Reaver, which I very much enjoyed.
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Trials of Atlantis is one of the older expansions. When it comes to graphics aspect of it the ones that came afterward are the ones that will give you the newer visuals not ToA. I don't think they even support the client anymore. So when it comes to visuals ToA is a moot point.
Basically, the Classic server has all the expansions MINUS ToA. So you get all the shiny visuals, new abilities, funky weapons and all that stuff without ToA content and the items it had.
The thing with Classic servers is that people there started playing because they didn't want to PVE all the ToA content and because having buffbots there is a bit harder then on the Normal servers. Basically the buffs on Classic have a range limit an the bot has to be grouped with you. You no longer can park it at the realm gate and run all the way to Emain and keep the buffs. If you like this then go to the Normal servers where things are unchanged. That's about it really...
If you got any more specific questions I'd gladly give them a shot. Without anything more specific my answers will be fairly ambiguous.
In regards to the Warden, it can be very fun. Keep in mind however that the Warden is not the only class with pulsing bladeturn. The runemaster (midgard) specializing in Suppression magic gets it, and the Theurgist (albion) specializing in Earth magic gets it as well. They are however mages and if you're looking for a melee character then yes the Warden is the choice for you. They kind of play like Reavers except rather then having Leviathan lifetap the hp back to them the bladeturn negates the damage so you don't take as much and then just heal yourself later. The damage output of a Warden is not stelar either. Don't expect to be 3 shotting anybody. I fought a Warden on my Warrior and our fight went for 10 minutes straight before we just agreed to walk away. Neither of us were making any headway, his BT blocking a lot of my attacks and me parrying and blocking his with my shield/weapon.
No required quests! And if I decide I want to be an assassin-cartographer-dancer-pastry chef who lives only to stalk and kill interior decorators, then that's who I want to be, even if it takes me four years to max all the skills and everyone else thinks I'm freaking nuts. -Madimorga-
That actually does answer my question. I remember a friend of mine telling me about buff bots and how they really ruined the game for him. This means I'll probably be going to the classic servers. The BT ability is one that I do wish to have with a melee character, so Warden is the definite choice. Thanks for your help!
Play classic servers unless you plan to buff bot or want to play the TOA PVE content which they did make a lot easier now.
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Just curious, are you able to pay for a character transfer between clusters? If you get a character to 50 on the classic cluster, and decide you want to try the ToA content can you transfer your character?
Currently Playing: DAOC Uthgard
Previously Played: UO, DAOC, Shadowbane, AC2, SWG, Horizons, COX, WOW, EQ2, LOTRO, AOC, WAR, Vanguard, Rift, SWTOR, ESO, GW2.
Not that I know of. DAoC never practiced this and I think it only came into effect with WoW. It's a cash grab just like their paid name change, paid sex change, and all that other crap.
As far as I know you'll have to level up every time though it doesn't take long nowadays.
No required quests! And if I decide I want to be an assassin-cartographer-dancer-pastry chef who lives only to stalk and kill interior decorators, then that's who I want to be, even if it takes me four years to max all the skills and everyone else thinks I'm freaking nuts. -Madimorga-
At least if you do get a 50 classic, and cannot do the trans, you get /lvl to 20... better then nothing
I was curious about this game myself, I found a gold package in my local microcenter for $8. It came with one expansion, the original game and 30 trial basis. Nowif I wanted to wanted to get started, how much would it cost to get on the classic servers (forget the atlantis stuff, /20 and buffbots) Im an ole'school rpg/mmo player that wants to enjoy the game, not become eh1337 overnight.
You can purchase the last 2 expansions online through the billing interface but it will cost you about 40 bucks. There are platinum and aniversary editions out there for less then $20 and they give you all the expansions... provided of course you can find one.
If you haven't done so, you can go download Catacombs expansion for free from The Camelot Herald in the download section.
No required quests! And if I decide I want to be an assassin-cartographer-dancer-pastry chef who lives only to stalk and kill interior decorators, then that's who I want to be, even if it takes me four years to max all the skills and everyone else thinks I'm freaking nuts. -Madimorga-
So all in all, if I find the plat edition I can play this game for free for 2 weeks then pay for sub @13 a month sub or $8 for the gold and 2 expansions that brings it to $50 with everything? A free month and then only a $13 monthly sounds like a great deal!
Can I get some fries with that too?
Reason I'm asking all this is that I just left a F2P cashshop nightmare and I'm looking for good p2p content. I'm a casual gamer now since quitting wow and I've played the FFXI also, which was too grindalicious for me. So, it seems as a toss up between DaOC and Spellboned, so I will try both then make a decision.
Also, can I use a prepaid CC or a mall-bought gift cert CC to pay for sub? I am apprehensive about putting any info on the internet because I had a bad experience.
Thanks for replying
Ink
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I have been very torn between classic and non-classic since subbing a couple of days back.
Part of me wants to play Classic, has been nice and friendly since I have been on there, and no buffbots (although, I am not sure if that is only an issue on 1v1)
But, I keep seeing so many naysayers about the classic realms, that it kind of worries me...low realm pop doesnt bother me (I am currently fighting for the EU RP servers in WAR to be merged so we have some pop, as ours hits under 1k in peak times)....its more that if I get really into the server...how welcoming is it, and how easy is it to find action (of any sort?)
I play far more hours a day than is possibly healthy, so levelling is not an issue (although I am an altaholic)
At the moment I am playing Midgard Classic and Hibernian Normal.
For those of you who play on classic and normal (or just classic), which would you recommend a brand new player to try out?
I resubbed recently and rolled a character on the classic cluster. I enjoy it a lot. Everyone I have met on classic has been great and very helpful. Like yourself, I don't really care about population.
I'm not sure what negative things you have heard about classic, but I haven't seen anything negative so far since I've been playing on it.
Good luck whatever you decide.
Currently Playing: DAOC Uthgard
Previously Played: UO, DAOC, Shadowbane, AC2, SWG, Horizons, COX, WOW, EQ2, LOTRO, AOC, WAR, Vanguard, Rift, SWTOR, ESO, GW2.
@ nadia, wow thanks alot. I also saw it new their for 3.99. Thats a great price if its actually new with all the expansions. I guess I'll pick it up , if this is a sample of the type of community that plays DoaC then I'll give it a go then.
However, this all has to wait til after this weekend, I.C.O.N. is this weekend and I'm going. So I'll order it when I get back and sign up for my trial. I'll look around at ICON, I might be able to find it there too.
Thanks everyone for their help
Ink
I resubbed recently and rolled a character on the classic cluster. I enjoy it a lot. Everyone I have met on classic has been great and very helpful. Like yourself, I don't really care about population.
I'm not sure what negative things you have heard about classic, but I haven't seen anything negative so far since I've been playing on it.
Good luck whatever you decide.
Thanks.
I am going to give Classic a go between now and the weekend, see how I like it
Like in everything you'll find bad apples everywhere. I just think that DAoC at least at the time when I played had a low ratio of the bad ones to the good ones.
In the beginning it was great but as time went on I think it's gotten slightly worse especially since some of the mentalities of other games have somewhat begun to seep into the DAoC community.
HOWEVER, don't let my post discourage you. You'll find plenty of people who are helpful and of a good predisposition.
No required quests! And if I decide I want to be an assassin-cartographer-dancer-pastry chef who lives only to stalk and kill interior decorators, then that's who I want to be, even if it takes me four years to max all the skills and everyone else thinks I'm freaking nuts. -Madimorga-
This is mainly for returning as well as new players when you come to choosing.
If PVE is what your about then you would probably enjoy TOA servers more then Classic. If PVP is your big picture and you like to solo some of the time then Classic is a no brainer.
Don't be fooled by the high numbers on Devon. I would put about half the active numbers per realm as buffbots. I was messing around on Devon Thidranki and of 26 mids there, 13 were buffbots.
On classic you can do well with buff potions and charges. On TOA you can forget about any solo PVP unless you pay for a second bot account or have alot of bot friends. I hated BOTS when i quit before even when i had unlmited access to them. Why? Not everybody has access so how far is that?
Most of the battlegrounds on Devon cluster are filled with botted twinks. Forget about solo unbotted play/ No buffs, no win. Sure you can play self buffing classes but there roles are very limited and situational. So again.
TOA if your only about PVE and you want to pay for two accounts so you can have a buffbot to compete in any sort of solo play. Bots are huge for PVE as well. Classic doesnt allow ranged buffs so you dont see buffbots at all in PVP.
Classic if you want to have a fair chance at beating anybody more so based on skill then buffbot capabilities. Level to 50 get a set of dragon gear and your good.
Welcome to a great game!
P.S. JUST SAY NO to Devon Cluster.
Well, I just went out and bought the game a few minutes ago. I think the game was really interesting from what I saw of the trial and decided I wanted to give it more of an "official go". So I ran out and bought the 5th Anniversary (was very surprised to see my local Gamestop had like 5 copies available!)
Okay, so I've been reading about this classic vs. non-classic and was wondering if someone could suggest something for me.
I'm very uninterested in dual-boxing, it's not my thing, so hopefully there is a way around this.
I'll tell you about what I like:
♦ I'm very fine with soloing
♦ I enjoy a decent-sized population -- just don't want to find myself alone 24/7 (and it would be nice to group up occasionally)
♦ I like PvP but it is by no means my entire reason for gaming
Not sure if that puts me on a normal server or on a classic server, lol. It seems I may like aspects of both.
Any suggestions are quite welcome!
And quick... question. When I click on a classic server, there is a popup telling me about classic servers. What does " - There is no /level 20 available on this server," mean exactly? Does that mean I will not be able to play a character under or over level 20?
Sorry, but the "/" wasn't making much sense to me! :P
I play on the Lamorak server as Midgard. It took me 1 month to get to level 50 which I believe is SLOW compared to most others here that have played.
Getting to 39 is pretty simple, but once you hit 40, leveling starts to slow down alot to 50.
Goodluck!
If you plan on playing MID on Lamorak, shoot me a PM.
The great thing about the fast levelling on the classic cluster is that you can try out pretty much all classes and see what they will become at a decent level, as characters grow relatively stronger unlike other games where you just gain bigger damage numbers, and the mob more health..
What a lot of people do is not level several characters all the way to 50 , but to 24 or 39 and then stay in the battlegrounds.So you have quite a few toons to fool around with and twink the ones you like the most.
You still have a lot of RvR fun and no RR10 groups or solo players to obliterate you, cause believe me there are a lots of high RR players that are just beasts to kill unless you zerg 'em down