Sadly if no 3rd personi wont bother either. Its not that 1st person sucks badly, its just the battle looks great when u actually see the animations of the attacks and im wondering why they insisted on the 1st person combat =[. Only thing i can think off is that maybe? has to do with the loading or lagg issues. I wish thoguh the developers could give us an answer on why dont they offer the CHOISE for everyone who may like to play only in 3rd person.. im really curious. And its a DAMN pity cause there is a huge base of oblivion combat system fans that would see that game as an oblivion online version which for some reason, NONE stupid company and especially bethesda who has the rights didnt even tried to make a ONLINE version of oblivion.
Ahh do some research before posting please. They HAVE explained why they are making it first person view only. More than once.
Why am i even bothering to post this, in a few posts someone else will be like "Omgied why wont the devs allow 3rd person view !11!!1!!one?" again.
The day that MO will have third person view, is the day when EA will buy MO. They will also nerf the pvp like UO. Thats mean, items insurance, more carebear stuff like more safe zone, more pvp penality even when you kill someone from an other faction, more pvm content and that would mean less pvp content, politic and others.
EA would ruin MO just like they did with UO and there will also be your third person view.
BTW, MO devs posted that they dont care about what more player base think about what MO should change because mo devs only want to make the game of their vision. They dont give a fuck about carebears.
The reason why we dont have third person view is because we dont have stealt in MO and thats mean, you have to use the environment to hide. With a third person view, it would just ruin it all.
Well whatever their reasons is they will lose customers over it. And this includes, people like me, who want a good sandbox FFA PvP game but can't stand first person. It has nothing to do with PvP and is basically a way to attract the FPS crowd, which is sad because they will lose alot of MMORPG customers in the proccess.
Sadly if no 3rd personi wont bother either. Its not that 1st person sucks badly, its just the battle looks great when u actually see the animations of the attacks and im wondering why they insisted on the 1st person combat =[. Only thing i can think off is that maybe? has to do with the loading or lagg issues. I wish thoguh the developers could give us an answer on why dont they offer the CHOISE for everyone who may like to play only in 3rd person.. im really curious. And its a DAMN pity cause there is a huge base of oblivion combat system fans that would see that game as an oblivion online version which for some reason, NONE stupid company and especially bethesda who has the rights didnt even tried to make a ONLINE version of oblivion.
Ahh do some research before posting please. They HAVE explained why they are making it first person view only. More than once.
Why am i even bothering to post this, in a few posts someone else will be like "Omgied why wont the devs allow 3rd person view !11!!1!!one?" again.
i did what research i could with limited time. Since obviously i didnt know that perhaps you are kind enough to tell us what the developers said about the why no 3rd person view exists even as an option, to enlight us?
Sadly if no 3rd personi wont bother either. Its not that 1st person sucks badly, its just the battle looks great when u actually see the animations of the attacks and im wondering why they insisted on the 1st person combat =[. Only thing i can think off is that maybe? has to do with the loading or lagg issues. I wish thoguh the developers could give us an answer on why dont they offer the CHOISE for everyone who may like to play only in 3rd person.. im really curious. And its a DAMN pity cause there is a huge base of oblivion combat system fans that would see that game as an oblivion online version which for some reason, NONE stupid company and especially bethesda who has the rights didnt even tried to make a ONLINE version of oblivion.
Ahh do some research before posting please. They HAVE explained why they are making it first person view only. More than once.
Why am i even bothering to post this, in a few posts someone else will be like "Omgied why wont the devs allow 3rd person view !11!!1!!one?" again.
i did what research i could with limited time. Since obviously i didnt know that perhaps you are kind enough to tell us what the developers said about the why no 3rd person view exists even as an option, to enlight us?
Well whatever their reasons is they will lose customers over it. And this includes, people like me, who want a good sandbox FFA PvP game but can't stand first person. It has nothing to do with PvP and is basically a way to attract the FPS crowd, which is sad because they will lose alot of MMORPG customers in the proccess.
Seriously, dont you enderstand? Not every mmorpg's want to be a wow killer. If it was that case, every new mmorpg will look like wow with a lil bit of more update and feature. We dont care about how many sub they will not have, but if alteast one server is full every days, its good enough. MO will be so good that players that will buy this game will stay and play. Carebear will leave but we dont care about them. DF players will join MO.
We dont care about how much you wan third person view, it will never happen. Even if its garantee that it will be a wow killer by adding that feature, we wont care. We dont care about breaking the sub record like wow because anyway, MO will be a game rated M for mature. Wow is for teen. Mature players are tired of those carebear game and we never saw a realistic fps medival mmorpg once. MO will be the 1st one and when i wil start playing that game, i will never leave
Go play earth rise if you dont like mo just because of one feature. Earth rise have third person view too, but you have less freedon then MO. You cannot even switch weapon while in combat.
Noone said anything about WOW but you. Making an mmo in 3rd person doesnt make it like WOW. That is just absurd. I didnt mind the first person combat in Oblivion but I ran around the world out of combat in 3rd person. Would have been nice to have the option in this game but it isnt offered. Oh well. Bethesda is going to make an mmo and Bioware awaits.
Oblivion was meant to play in FPV. I rarely left FPV because it was just so awkward in TPV. The animations were weird and controlling yourself was even weirder. MO is going to be even more so geared to FPV, everything in the game is going to be built around it.
Bethesda, good luck now that MO has taken your combat system. Though, I'm sure people would still play Elder Scrolls Online.Bioware is making a game for a niche market. So, they'll be just like Turbine and LotRO. Both will be mildly successful, but that's about as far as it goes.
Noone said anything about WOW but you. Making an mmo in 3rd person doesnt make it like WOW. That is just absurd. I didnt mind the first person combat in Oblivion but I ran around the world out of combat in 3rd person. Would have been nice to have the option in this game but it isnt offered. Oh well. Bethesda is going to make an mmo and Bioware awaits.
If you use a bow or range spell, you had to play fps because the crosshair in third person view is on the head of your character. All you could do on TPV is fighting with a melee weapon. Me, what i did in TPV with a melee weapon is pointing my crosshair down while fighting so i can see my enemy well in front of me. In faq, TPV in oblivion was bad.
Some games like socom, gears of war do have a good tpv, but because of that, you can stand in front of a wall and see across the wall because the tpv is over shoulder, left or right of your character. That system in MO would just kill the stealt system and because of that, they would have to add a stlealt like other mmorpg's and we dont want that. FPS for the whole game is the only solution.
Lol of course the people who LOVE rpg's and the way they look like graphics and fluff and feeling themselves more than the gameplay and reason to play it.
MO will be a niche, just like DFO is, most will hate, some will love it, that simple.
MO will not be all fluffy and stuff, it will be a harsh and dying world, you will get ganked and gangbanged probably everyday until you adapt.
FPV is the only way to go in a MMORPG with FPS combat IMO. anything else is just another auto see left click fest.
Well whatever their reasons is they will lose customers over it. And this includes, people like me, who want a good sandbox FFA PvP game but can't stand first person. It has nothing to do with PvP and is basically a way to attract the FPS crowd, which is sad because they will lose alot of MMORPG customers in the proccess.
You wont have problem finding another MMO with TPV, basically all MMO have TPV.
FPV only is why I am interested in this game. Finally one developer dare doing that. I cant stand all TPV MMOs.
Well whatever their reasons is they will lose customers over it. And this includes, people like me, who want a good sandbox FFA PvP game but can't stand first person. It has nothing to do with PvP and is basically a way to attract the FPS crowd, which is sad because they will lose alot of MMORPG customers in the proccess.
You wont have problem finding another MMO with TPV, basically all MMO have TPV.
FPV only is why I am interested in this game. Finally one developer dare doing that. I cant stand all TPV MMOs.
I don't see what is so great with forced FPV. Alot of those so called TPV MMOs have FPV which is good because it allows you to chose. Forcing FPV is just plain dumb because it will discourage alot of people that won't like to be forced into it from getting the game.
And really I don't see the point in forcing it, leave it as an option for those who like it. If you are worried about getting a bird eye view of the battle field then just reduce the amount that you can zoom out but atleast give us a way to see our own damn character. I want to look at my own bloody avatar for crying out loud!
Well whatever their reasons is they will lose customers over it. And this includes, people like me, who want a good sandbox FFA PvP game but can't stand first person. It has nothing to do with PvP and is basically a way to attract the FPS crowd, which is sad because they will lose alot of MMORPG customers in the proccess.
You wont have problem finding another MMO with TPV, basically all MMO have TPV.
FPV only is why I am interested in this game. Finally one developer dare doing that. I cant stand all TPV MMOs.
I don't see what is so great with forced FPV. Alot of those so called TPV MMOs have FPV which is good because it allows you to chose. Forcing FPV is just plain dumb because it will discourage alot of people that won't like to be forced into it from getting the game.
And really I don't see the point in forcing it, leave it as an option for those who like it. If you are worried about getting a bird eye view of the battle field then just reduce the amount that you can zoom out but atleast give us a way to see our own damn character. I want to look at my own bloody avatar for crying out loud!
I am a fan of 3PV myself, like Darkfall it will be a bit odd, to play an MMO with FPV, but then again I have been playing Oblivion quite alot and that is quite enjoyable in its own way, and I can see certain gimmicks that FPV only will bring to the battlefield and to the world, it will make the world seem bigger instead of the RTS like view that 3PV provides, think about going inside a cave and actually feeling like small going in rather than having a camera looking down from the ceiling, and brings new strategy onto combat since you wont have an overview of whats in front and behind you.
Its a wait a see topic for me really dunno how well it will work out.
For all those that are dreaming, waiting or insisting that there must be 3rd person in MO.
There will be none.
Get ower it, lads.
Puh, thank god! It's fine by me cuz im over 14 years old and have better self esteem than that I have to see my überl33t armor from behind all the time! Weii!
Grow up and try something new. It is like sex, once you try, you love it. But of course, you dont know that if you are a 14 year old virgin. *whistle*
Wanna be a 40 year old virgin? Well, stay in carebear 3rd person!
For all those that are dreaming, waiting or insisting that there must be 3rd person in MO.
There will be none.
Get ower it, lads.
Puh, thank god! It's fine by me cuz im over 14 years old and have better self esteem than that I have to see my überl33t armor from behind all the time! Weii!
Grow up and try something new. It is like sex, once you try, you love it. But of course, you dont know that if you are a 14 year old virgin. *whistle*
Wanna be a 40 year old virgin? Well, stay in carebear 3rd person!
If these are the type of persons that will be playing this game then this game will be as doomed as DF. An MMORPG is only as good as its playerbase.
I am a fan of 3PV myself, like Darkfall it will be a bit odd, to play an MMO with FPV, but then again I have been playing Oblivion quite alot and that is quite enjoyable in its own way, and I can see certain gimmicks that FPV only will bring to the battlefield and to the world, it will make the world seem bigger instead of the RTS like view that 3PV provides, think about going inside a cave and actually feeling like small going in rather than having a camera looking down from the ceiling, and brings new strategy onto combat since you wont have an overview of whats in front and behind you. Its a wait a see topic for me really dunno how well it will work out.
Well all of those are still valid if you have the choice of FPV rather than being forced to have it. Unless you want to restrict people from using strategies that is not exclusive to FPV but then we are talking about something else and I really don't see a point in forcing people to use certain type of strategies.
Birdeye view, yeah I can see how that gives you an advantage. But close TPV will not give you any kind of advantage, more like having forced FPV would give a disadvantage to melee and advantage to ranged characters.
I am a fan of 3PV myself, like Darkfall it will be a bit odd, to play an MMO with FPV, but then again I have been playing Oblivion quite alot and that is quite enjoyable in its own way, and I can see certain gimmicks that FPV only will bring to the battlefield and to the world, it will make the world seem bigger instead of the RTS like view that 3PV provides, think about going inside a cave and actually feeling like small going in rather than having a camera looking down from the ceiling, and brings new strategy onto combat since you wont have an overview of whats in front and behind you. Its a wait a see topic for me really dunno how well it will work out.
Well all of those are still valid if you have the choice of FPV rather than being forced to have it. Unless you want to restrict people from using strategies that is not exclusive to FPV but then we are talking about something else and I really don't see a point in forcing people to use certain type of strategies.
Birdeye view, yeah I can see how that gives you an advantage. But close TPV will not give you any kind of advantage, more like having forced FPV would give a disadvantage to melee and advantage to ranged characters.
IMOH the FPV lock on, was more because of easier implementation rather than because they wanted to lock ppl in FPV, U3 engine already has a remarkeable support for first person view and that just made it easier to extend it for their melee/ranged weapons rather than having to worry about a third-person view as well.
IMOH the FPV lock on, was more because of easier implementation rather than because they wanted to lock ppl in FPV, U3 engine already has a remarkeable support for first person view and that just made it easier to extend it for their melee/ranged weapons rather than having to worry about a third-person view as well.
If that is the case then one can only hope that they will eventually add TPV. I can safely say that most MMORPG gamers would rather have the choice rather than being forced to do FPV.
Have the developers of Mortal Online considered an over-the-shoulder view that cannot zoom out? I would play Mortal Online if that were included. The first-person only view is the only thing stopping me from getting excited about this game. Edit: A good example of a view similar to this would be the one found in Armored Core games. You still cannot see anything behind you, but you can see your character in action. This isn't only for aesthetics however. Depth perception with melee weapons in first-person view is very poor, and your field of view is cut in thirds when in a first person view. A natural view angle is better achieved with this over-the-shoulder view.
Sorta like Mount and Blade's view. This I could go with. No 3rd person view...forget it. I am not even going to bother now.
I'd very much prefer to have it all in FPV. More immersive and opens up for a whole lot of new tactics! Besides, it's going to be a fresh experience compared to a "normal" MMO.
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Ahh do some research before posting please. They HAVE explained why they are making it first person view only. More than once.
Why am i even bothering to post this, in a few posts someone else will be like "Omgied why wont the devs allow 3rd person view !11!!1!!one?" again.
The day that MO will have third person view, is the day when EA will buy MO. They will also nerf the pvp like UO. Thats mean, items insurance, more carebear stuff like more safe zone, more pvp penality even when you kill someone from an other faction, more pvm content and that would mean less pvp content, politic and others.
EA would ruin MO just like they did with UO and there will also be your third person view.
BTW, MO devs posted that they dont care about what more player base think about what MO should change because mo devs only want to make the game of their vision. They dont give a fuck about carebears.
The reason why we dont have third person view is because we dont have stealt in MO and thats mean, you have to use the environment to hide. With a third person view, it would just ruin it all.
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Well whatever their reasons is they will lose customers over it. And this includes, people like me, who want a good sandbox FFA PvP game but can't stand first person. It has nothing to do with PvP and is basically a way to attract the FPS crowd, which is sad because they will lose alot of MMORPG customers in the proccess.
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Ahh do some research before posting please. They HAVE explained why they are making it first person view only. More than once.
Why am i even bothering to post this, in a few posts someone else will be like "Omgied why wont the devs allow 3rd person view !11!!1!!one?" again.
i did what research i could with limited time. Since obviously i didnt know that perhaps you are kind enough to tell us what the developers said about the why no 3rd person view exists even as an option, to enlight us?
Ahh do some research before posting please. They HAVE explained why they are making it first person view only. More than once.
Why am i even bothering to post this, in a few posts someone else will be like "Omgied why wont the devs allow 3rd person view !11!!1!!one?" again.
i did what research i could with limited time. Since obviously i didnt know that perhaps you are kind enough to tell us what the developers said about the why no 3rd person view exists even as an option, to enlight us?
You can find what you asking for in this thread.
If it's not broken, you are not innovating.
Seriously, dont you enderstand? Not every mmorpg's want to be a wow killer. If it was that case, every new mmorpg will look like wow with a lil bit of more update and feature. We dont care about how many sub they will not have, but if alteast one server is full every days, its good enough. MO will be so good that players that will buy this game will stay and play. Carebear will leave but we dont care about them. DF players will join MO.
We dont care about how much you wan third person view, it will never happen. Even if its garantee that it will be a wow killer by adding that feature, we wont care. We dont care about breaking the sub record like wow because anyway, MO will be a game rated M for mature. Wow is for teen. Mature players are tired of those carebear game and we never saw a realistic fps medival mmorpg once. MO will be the 1st one and when i wil start playing that game, i will never leave
Go play earth rise if you dont like mo just because of one feature. Earth rise have third person view too, but you have less freedon then MO. You cannot even switch weapon while in combat.
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Oblivion was meant to play in FPV. I rarely left FPV because it was just so awkward in TPV. The animations were weird and controlling yourself was even weirder. MO is going to be even more so geared to FPV, everything in the game is going to be built around it.
Bethesda, good luck now that MO has taken your combat system. Though, I'm sure people would still play Elder Scrolls Online.Bioware is making a game for a niche market. So, they'll be just like Turbine and LotRO. Both will be mildly successful, but that's about as far as it goes.
If you use a bow or range spell, you had to play fps because the crosshair in third person view is on the head of your character. All you could do on TPV is fighting with a melee weapon. Me, what i did in TPV with a melee weapon is pointing my crosshair down while fighting so i can see my enemy well in front of me. In faq, TPV in oblivion was bad.
Some games like socom, gears of war do have a good tpv, but because of that, you can stand in front of a wall and see across the wall because the tpv is over shoulder, left or right of your character. That system in MO would just kill the stealt system and because of that, they would have to add a stlealt like other mmorpg's and we dont want that. FPS for the whole game is the only solution.
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Omg is realy wired, an awsome game but no 3rd.
A 3d game without 3rd person with melee wapons.
50 vs 50 = fail
If you mean a fight 50v50 with FPV=fail, then you are truly an idiot.
If it's not broken, you are not innovating.
lol no thanks bye
World of Warcraft is a proof that MMORPG quality should affect schedule/budget and not the other way around.
Lol of course the people who LOVE rpg's and the way they look like graphics and fluff and feeling themselves more than the gameplay and reason to play it.
MO will be a niche, just like DFO is, most will hate, some will love it, that simple.
MO will not be all fluffy and stuff, it will be a harsh and dying world, you will get ganked and gangbanged probably everyday until you adapt.
FPV is the only way to go in a MMORPG with FPS combat IMO. anything else is just another auto see left click fest.
You wont have problem finding another MMO with TPV, basically all MMO have TPV.
FPV only is why I am interested in this game. Finally one developer dare doing that. I cant stand all TPV MMOs.
You wont have problem finding another MMO with TPV, basically all MMO have TPV.
FPV only is why I am interested in this game. Finally one developer dare doing that. I cant stand all TPV MMOs.
I don't see what is so great with forced FPV. Alot of those so called TPV MMOs have FPV which is good because it allows you to chose. Forcing FPV is just plain dumb because it will discourage alot of people that won't like to be forced into it from getting the game.
And really I don't see the point in forcing it, leave it as an option for those who like it. If you are worried about getting a bird eye view of the battle field then just reduce the amount that you can zoom out but atleast give us a way to see our own damn character. I want to look at my own bloody avatar for crying out loud!
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Most sets of armor will actually have huge mirror attachments so you can see everything around you, just like it's a TPS.
You wont have problem finding another MMO with TPV, basically all MMO have TPV.
FPV only is why I am interested in this game. Finally one developer dare doing that. I cant stand all TPV MMOs.
I don't see what is so great with forced FPV. Alot of those so called TPV MMOs have FPV which is good because it allows you to chose. Forcing FPV is just plain dumb because it will discourage alot of people that won't like to be forced into it from getting the game.
And really I don't see the point in forcing it, leave it as an option for those who like it. If you are worried about getting a bird eye view of the battle field then just reduce the amount that you can zoom out but atleast give us a way to see our own damn character. I want to look at my own bloody avatar for crying out loud!
I am a fan of 3PV myself, like Darkfall it will be a bit odd, to play an MMO with FPV, but then again I have been playing Oblivion quite alot and that is quite enjoyable in its own way, and I can see certain gimmicks that FPV only will bring to the battlefield and to the world, it will make the world seem bigger instead of the RTS like view that 3PV provides, think about going inside a cave and actually feeling like small going in rather than having a camera looking down from the ceiling, and brings new strategy onto combat since you wont have an overview of whats in front and behind you.
Its a wait a see topic for me really dunno how well it will work out.
Puh, thank god! It's fine by me cuz im over 14 years old and have better self esteem than that I have to see my überl33t armor from behind all the time! Weii!
Grow up and try something new. It is like sex, once you try, you love it. But of course, you dont know that if you are a 14 year old virgin. *whistle*
Wanna be a 40 year old virgin? Well, stay in carebear 3rd person!
Puh, thank god! It's fine by me cuz im over 14 years old and have better self esteem than that I have to see my überl33t armor from behind all the time! Weii!
Grow up and try something new. It is like sex, once you try, you love it. But of course, you dont know that if you are a 14 year old virgin. *whistle*
Wanna be a 40 year old virgin? Well, stay in carebear 3rd person!
If these are the type of persons that will be playing this game then this game will be as doomed as DF. An MMORPG is only as good as its playerbase.
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Well all of those are still valid if you have the choice of FPV rather than being forced to have it. Unless you want to restrict people from using strategies that is not exclusive to FPV but then we are talking about something else and I really don't see a point in forcing people to use certain type of strategies.
Birdeye view, yeah I can see how that gives you an advantage. But close TPV will not give you any kind of advantage, more like having forced FPV would give a disadvantage to melee and advantage to ranged characters.
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Well all of those are still valid if you have the choice of FPV rather than being forced to have it. Unless you want to restrict people from using strategies that is not exclusive to FPV but then we are talking about something else and I really don't see a point in forcing people to use certain type of strategies.
Birdeye view, yeah I can see how that gives you an advantage. But close TPV will not give you any kind of advantage, more like having forced FPV would give a disadvantage to melee and advantage to ranged characters.
IMOH the FPV lock on, was more because of easier implementation rather than because they wanted to lock ppl in FPV, U3 engine already has a remarkeable support for first person view and that just made it easier to extend it for their melee/ranged weapons rather than having to worry about a third-person view as well.
If that is the case then one can only hope that they will eventually add TPV. I can safely say that most MMORPG gamers would rather have the choice rather than being forced to do FPV.
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Sorta like Mount and Blade's view. This I could go with. No 3rd person view...forget it. I am not even going to bother now.
I'd very much prefer to have it all in FPV. More immersive and opens up for a whole lot of new tactics! Besides, it's going to be a fresh experience compared to a "normal" MMO.