Yeah kinda figured as much because the reaction I am seeing on these forums are quite similar to those seen when Dark and Light and Mourning were released. Hence this poll.
Thats just in this forum
DF forums has like like x40 more viewers and hardly any troll posts such as this.
The people playing the game have found their promise land. The ones that say it suck dont understand what its about, they look at it from a traditional mmo standpoint. And thousands more are trying to get accounts. LOL yeah this game is going down the drain.
Yeah kinda figured as much because the reaction I am seeing on these forums are quite similar to those seen when Dark and Light and Mourning were released. Hence this poll.
Thats just in this forum
DF forums has like like x40 more viewers and hardly any troll posts such as this.
The people playing the game have found their promise land. The ones that say it suck dont understand what its about, they look at it from a traditional mmo standpoint. And thousands more are trying to get accounts. LOL yeah this game is going down the drain.
Lets see, with a 9 million dollar loan (that we know of, possibly other debts) at what maybe 6% interest? (that would be what 540k in interest a year?) and only roughly 20K players subing at roughly 15 dollars a month. (we'll say 20K at $15 = 360K a year income) Add to that server costs, pay for the devs and other assorted expenses. it doesn't look very economically feasable.
Well first of all the game has not launched yet since you can't buy it. So the real question should be "will it ever release?"
The game is a complete stinker as most people know so even if it ever releases to the general public it won't last long. The only people who might find something in this game are the PvP Ganker crowd and that market segment isn't exactly the most loyal group as they tend to flok to the latest grief fest.
My guess is the game will shut down within 6 months of it going live - if that day ever comes in the first place
Lets see, with a 9 million dollar loan (that we know of, possibly other debts) at what maybe 6% interest? (that would be what 540k in interest a year?) and only roughly 20K players subing at roughly 15 dollars a month. (we'll say 20K at $15 = 360K a year income) Add to that server costs, pay for the devs and other assorted expenses. it doesn't look very economically feasable.
Not to pick on your math, nor am I defending DF but, by your example, 20k players paying 15$/month would make 300,000 a month, then you multiply that by 12(months in a year) and you get 3,6 mil. They could stretch the game for profit for a good while before having to go belly up.
To the topic at hand, the game will stay alive so long as there are ppl in game and making the company money, no matter how many others hate it or troll it. Simple as that. All the walls of text in the world won't change simple economics of supply and demand, no matter how well written they are.
Close down? They haven't even opened the game up to the full audience yet. Let them get some servers up and let EVERYONE in, and then you'll know if it's a success or not.
Thats a fact. I dont own game myself, but been watching friend play and it looks all right. All basic game functions seems to be working.
After summer we can better see will this game have future. But what ive seen so far, it does.
Well first of all the game has not launched yet since you can't buy it. So the real question should be "will it ever release?" The game is a complete stinker as most people know so even if it ever releases to the general public it won't last long. The only people who might find something in this game are the PvP Ganker crowd and that market segment isn't exactly the most loyal group as they tend to flok to the latest grief fest. My guess is the game will shut down within 6 months of it going live - if that day ever comes in the first place
It hasn't launched? Noone has bought the game? Then who the hell are those people paying sub fee to play right now?
"Limited" release is still a release. The game is launched. Period.
Close down? They haven't even opened the game up to the full audience yet. Let them get some servers up and let EVERYONE in, and then you'll know if it's a success or not.
Where did these "servers" coming up come from? according to Tasos from day one until now, DF will have only one server, the same as EVE.
Amazing how the fanbois forget things like this to make their feeble arguments.
not long, the game is one of the worst mmo's ever released, if not the worst, YES even worse then dark and light.
Just LOL...
Even if its not perfect DF is very stable and solid, and most important there is no similar concurent game currently on market!
The only game that can doom DF is MO.
You know that every train have passengers... Especially if its compleatly different from everything else...
Where themepark games try to hide that they are copying WOW, games like Mortal Online and Darkfall make no attempt to hide their inspiration ______\m/_____ LordOfDarkDesire
Yeah kinda figured as much because the reaction I am seeing on these forums are quite similar to those seen when Dark and Light and Mourning were released. Hence this poll.
Good job that these forumns are a bit of an irrelevance as MMO players are playing the dissalusioned or poor come here to troll. And some of come here to just laugh.
________________________________________________________ Sorcery must persist, the future is the Citadel
Close down? They haven't even opened the game up to the full audience yet. Let them get some servers up and let EVERYONE in, and then you'll know if it's a success or not.
Where did these "servers" coming up come from? according to Tasos from day one until now, DF will have only one server, the same as EVE.
Amazing how the fanbois forget things like this to make their feeble arguments.
You really are trying too hard, and if you think they will only ever have one World Instance you don't understand the game. You should really try to Troll harder.
The Max a world instance can support is upto 20k concurrency the optimum DFO are aiming for is 10k... Once the initial criteria is met more World instances will be made available. That has always been the plan and always will be.
(why am i wasting my time you aren't interested)
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Weird that more people isnt happy about the fact they dont need to play WoW any longer!
DF is a good popular MMO right now. Sure we can troll it and trash it, but the fact still remain for the ones playing it. DF is a awesome game. No other MMO have anything on DF right now. So if you bash DF you also bash all other MMOs. And if you bash MMOs, you maybe dont like MMOs....so what are you doing here on a MMO site in the first place?
Close down? They haven't even opened the game up to the full audience yet. Let them get some servers up and let EVERYONE in, and then you'll know if it's a success or not.
Where did these "servers" coming up come from? according to Tasos from day one until now, DF will have only one server, the same as EVE.
Amazing how the fanbois forget things like this to make their feeble arguments.
You really are trying too hard, and if you think they will only ever have one World Instance you don't understand the game. You should really try to Troll harder.
The Max a world instance can support is upto 20k concurrency the optimum DFO are aiming for is 10k... Once the initial criteria is met more World instances will be made available. That has always been the plan and always will be.
(why am i wasting my time you aren't interested)
The one trying too hard is you. If the game was so great, you wouldn't be wasting your time trying to "defend" it against us "trolls". You'd be playing. Unless you aren't one of the "lucky" ones who got the privilege to pay to play beta.
But I'll bite. Show me the official quote from Tasos, Claus, or any other moron over at Aventurine saying there will be more "worlds", since one of the big attention grabbers they flaunted was the "one server, one world" bullshit.
Or maybe that was just one more lie by the great Tasos. He's already racked so many up, fanbois will be busy for years trying to spin them all.
Weird that more people isnt happy about the fact they dont need to play WoW any longer! DF is a good popular MMO right now. Sure we can troll it and trash it, but the fact still remain for the ones playing it. DF is a awesome game. No other MMO have anything on DF right now. So if you bash DF you also bash all other MMOs. And if you bash MMOs, you maybe dont like MMOs....so what are you doing here on a MMO site in the first place?
You need to step outside the Darkfall curtain. Reality is slowly slipping away from you.
How is bashing Darkfall ( or it's idiotic devs in my case ) bashing every other mmo? Think before you type.
And no other mmo has anything on Darkfall? Nice opinion, but far from fact.
This game isn't closing down anytime soon...lol that's just retarded.. In fact with new servers opening up soon "North American" and "Euro 2" included.I have bad news for the usual Shit talkers, This game is only going growing in popularity. War Hulks or Large sea vessels havent even been built yet on Euro1 and the politics in game are just now ramping up. 6 months from now this game is going to be crazy. I was in a battle last night one on the side of "Savage Alliance" I've never seen anything like it in an mmo before. we're talking hundreds and hundreds of people. Don't let alot of the trolls fool you here, this game is awesome, just not for the faint of heart
Close down? They haven't even opened the game up to the full audience yet. Let them get some servers up and let EVERYONE in, and then you'll know if it's a success or not.
Where did these "servers" coming up come from? according to Tasos from day one until now, DF will have only one server, the same as EVE.
Amazing how the fanbois forget things like this to make their feeble arguments.
You really are trying too hard, and if you think they will only ever have one World Instance you don't understand the game. You should really try to Troll harder.
The Max a world instance can support is upto 20k concurrency the optimum DFO are aiming for is 10k... Once the initial criteria is met more World instances will be made available. That has always been the plan and always will be.
(why am i wasting my time you aren't interested)
The one trying too hard is you. If the game was so great, you wouldn't be wasting your time trying to "defend" it against us "trolls". You'd be playing. Unless you aren't one of the "lucky" ones who got the privilege to pay to play beta.
But I'll bite. Show me the official quote from Tasos, Claus, or any other moron over at Aventurine saying there will be more "worlds", since one of the big attention grabbers they flaunted was the "one server, one world" bullshit.
Or maybe that was just one more lie by the great Tasos. He's already racked so many up, fanbois will be busy for years trying to spin them all.
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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Weird that more people isnt happy about the fact they dont need to play WoW any longer! DF is a good popular MMO right now. Sure we can troll it and trash it, but the fact still remain for the ones playing it. DF is a awesome game. No other MMO have anything on DF right now. So if you bash DF you also bash all other MMOs. And if you bash MMOs, you maybe dont like MMOs....so what are you doing here on a MMO site in the first place?
You need to step outside the Darkfall curtain. Reality is slowly slipping away from you.
How is bashing Darkfall ( or it's idiotic devs in my case ) bashing every other mmo? Think before you type.
And no other mmo has anything on Darkfall? Nice opinion, but far from fact.
But in what other MMO can i do everything i can do in darkfall? Right now there is nothing to compete with DF. And if a bunch of amateurs from Greece manages to do this, why havent companys as Blizzard done anything with citybuilding, mounted combat and multipersonal ships? The fact still remain, all other MMOs fall a long way behind DF. Any MMO you choose to play, you need to step down to reach it (right now).
I dont like that either. But its the way it is . Or name another game that can give me something similar!
PS I had to come back here for a while, im working out of town....cant play : (
Personally, I think its up to Aventurine. If the game is in the state that I believe it is (going by many, many posts I have read - I always assume it is worse than the fanbots say but not as bad as the haters say), Aventurine has some work to do. First, they need to release more servers. Second, they need to stabilize some technical issue. Third, they need to deal with bots/cheaters/hacks and do it quick. Fourth, they need to update the website and make the website more accessible to curious players. Fifth, they need to do some interviews/state of the game addresses to let the players know what is going on. IF they do all of that, in a reasonable time, then the game will do well. Well by its standards - meaning a small, dedicated fanbase that will be enough to keep the game profitable. If they do not do that, the game will start to lose players. Some at the end of this month, some as other games launch, etc... And this a is a huge problem with the game and with all PVP based games. Just like raiding based games (end-game), PVP based games need people. And they need a lot of people. Exhibit A - DAOC. Many will tell you that is had some of the best PVP to date but they don't play anymore. #1 reason - lack of population. Exhibit B -Age of Conan. Ask those who made it to the end game and many will tell you they left because there were not enough people to do raids and PVP. The problem with this is that it acts as a snowball. People leave. Less end action. More people leave. And the cycle will continue. With Darkfall, if the population begins to dry up, the game will hemorhage players. For example, if many in your guild quite, and you can no longer defend your city, then what's the point. Either find a new guild or quit. Usually when a game loses a lot of players, a couple guilds begin to fight for control. Often these guilds are not the best guilds on the server, just the ones with the hardcore players or major exploiters. Players get frustrated and leave. Aventurine will have to be sure this cycle does not occur. I have played MMO's for over 8 years and seen this cycle many times, in all kinds of games that have a very inconsistent end game. Right now, both AOC and WAR are suffering from this cycle and doing things to try stop the bleeding. The question is if they can. And the question for Aventurine is not will they be able to stop it but can they do anything to prevent it in the first place.
Tenth they need to wipe their Tandy server and install a private WoW server and then they will have a decent game at least.
Weird that more people isnt happy about the fact they dont need to play WoW any longer! DF is a good popular MMO right now. Sure we can troll it and trash it, but the fact still remain for the ones playing it. DF is a awesome game. No other MMO have anything on DF right now. So if you bash DF you also bash all other MMOs. And if you bash MMOs, you maybe dont like MMOs....so what are you doing here on a MMO site in the first place?
You need to step outside the Darkfall curtain. Reality is slowly slipping away from you.
How is bashing Darkfall ( or it's idiotic devs in my case ) bashing every other mmo? Think before you type.
And no other mmo has anything on Darkfall? Nice opinion, but far from fact.
But in what other MMO can i do everything i can do in darkfall? Right now there is nothing to compete with DF. And if a bunch of amateurs from Greece manages to do this, why havent companys as Blizzard done anything with citybuilding, mounted combat and multipersonal ships? The fact still remain, all other MMOs fall a long way behind DF. Any MMO you choose to play, you need to step down to reach it (right now).
I dont like that either. But its the way it is . Or name another game that can give me something similar!
PS I had to come back here for a while, im working out of town....cant play : (
simply because blizzard and other big name developers are after gross markets not niche markets.
Darkfall has at best a 20000 player population (being overly optimistic here), liking wow or not, blizzard has a 5 to 11 million player base to only cares about arenas, bg's raid and instanced dungeons. that is where the $ is. Producing a darkfall product would alienate a great part of those customers, when that player base expects a wow II. It is a bad bussiness decision.
Another big name company making a mmorpg is BioWare. And while the sanbox model (that df follows) was on the table for a short period, it was ruled against since, once more, it wouldn't attract the amount of players bioware would like to get.
Truth is either blizzard or bioware have enough $ to make a darkfall kind of game without any problems, that would be better than darkfall (in the end everything is about $, with $ you can hire the programers, developers. coders animators and artists to make any project), they don't do it simply because market prospection and analyse agencies (like the one my wife works and that has at least 2 times being contracted by blizzard ) tell them that would be a vain effort since the amount of gamers that would be interested in such product would produce irrelevant (for companies of their size) cash flows
Even EVE the most popular (and probably well made) sandbox game around generate revenues that are not enough to even pay for the operational cost of wow's server clusters.
the only other game currently on the market similar to darkfall (no mounted combat-hmm maybe it haswith the hoth upgrade not sure about it- tho but better economic and urbanistic options and multi passenger/personal ships) is Star wars galaxies, tha also retains probably the best economic and crafting systems ever deployed on a MMO's and social system without paralel in any other game of it's type (apart the sims i guess). And even with that we all know how much population/popularity it has (less than 5% of wow's customers).
But in what other MMO can i do everything i can do in darkfall? Right now there is nothing to compete with DF. And if a bunch of amateurs from Greece manages to do this, why havent companys as Blizzard done anything with citybuilding, mounted combat and multipersonal ships? The fact still remain, all other MMOs fall a long way behind DF. Any MMO you choose to play, you need to step down to reach it (right now). I dont like that either. But its the way it is . Or name another game that can give me something similar!
PS I had to come back here for a while, im working out of town....cant play : (
No other company* has done city building and mounted combat for their mmo, because they chose not to. They have not focused on it.
Apparently not everyone finds these features the most important. Multiperson vehicles do exist in other mmos though, wow for example. But no ships that you can control yourself, only land mounts and vehicles.
If you truly find these 3 features the most important aspect of an mmo, then there is indeed only darkfall for you.
*I don't know any mmo wich has these features, this doesn't mean that there are none.
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Thats just in this forum
DF forums has like like x40 more viewers and hardly any troll posts such as this.
The people playing the game have found their promise land. The ones that say it suck dont understand what its about, they look at it from a traditional mmo standpoint. And thousands more are trying to get accounts. LOL yeah this game is going down the drain.
Boy is it ever.
Thats just in this forum
DF forums has like like x40 more viewers and hardly any troll posts such as this.
The people playing the game have found their promise land. The ones that say it suck dont understand what its about, they look at it from a traditional mmo standpoint. And thousands more are trying to get accounts. LOL yeah this game is going down the drain.
Lets see, with a 9 million dollar loan (that we know of, possibly other debts) at what maybe 6% interest? (that would be what 540k in interest a year?) and only roughly 20K players subing at roughly 15 dollars a month. (we'll say 20K at $15 = 360K a year income) Add to that server costs, pay for the devs and other assorted expenses. it doesn't look very economically feasable.
I hope it lasts for a long time. I have no intention of ever playing it but the like to see more successful games on the market.
..and we have a winner for the most useless thread of the week with an honorable mention of idiocy.
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Well first of all the game has not launched yet since you can't buy it. So the real question should be "will it ever release?"
The game is a complete stinker as most people know so even if it ever releases to the general public it won't last long. The only people who might find something in this game are the PvP Ganker crowd and that market segment isn't exactly the most loyal group as they tend to flok to the latest grief fest.
My guess is the game will shut down within 6 months of it going live - if that day ever comes in the first place
Not to pick on your math, nor am I defending DF but, by your example, 20k players paying 15$/month would make 300,000 a month, then you multiply that by 12(months in a year) and you get 3,6 mil. They could stretch the game for profit for a good while before having to go belly up.
To the topic at hand, the game will stay alive so long as there are ppl in game and making the company money, no matter how many others hate it or troll it. Simple as that. All the walls of text in the world won't change simple economics of supply and demand, no matter how well written they are.
Close down? They haven't even opened the game up to the full audience yet.
Let them get some servers up and let EVERYONE in, and then you'll know if it's a success or not.
The sleeper awakes...and rides his dirtbike to the mall.
Thats a fact. I dont own game myself, but been watching friend play and it looks all right. All basic game functions seems to be working.
After summer we can better see will this game have future. But what ive seen so far, it does.
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It hasn't launched? Noone has bought the game? Then who the hell are those people paying sub fee to play right now?
"Limited" release is still a release. The game is launched. Period.
Where did these "servers" coming up come from? according to Tasos from day one until now, DF will have only one server, the same as EVE.
Amazing how the fanbois forget things like this to make their feeble arguments.
Just LOL...
Even if its not perfect DF is very stable and solid, and most important there is no similar concurent game currently on market!
The only game that can doom DF is MO.
You know that every train have passengers... Especially if its compleatly different from everything else...
Where themepark games try to hide that they are copying WOW, games like Mortal Online and Darkfall make no attempt to hide their inspiration
______\m/_____
LordOfDarkDesire
Good job that these forumns are a bit of an irrelevance as MMO players are playing the dissalusioned or poor come here to troll. And some of come here to just laugh.
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Sorcery must persist, the future is the Citadel
Where did these "servers" coming up come from? according to Tasos from day one until now, DF will have only one server, the same as EVE.
Amazing how the fanbois forget things like this to make their feeble arguments.
You really are trying too hard, and if you think they will only ever have one World Instance you don't understand the game. You should really try to Troll harder.
The Max a world instance can support is upto 20k concurrency the optimum DFO are aiming for is 10k... Once the initial criteria is met more World instances will be made available. That has always been the plan and always will be.
(why am i wasting my time you aren't interested)
________________________________________________________
Sorcery must persist, the future is the Citadel
Weird that more people isnt happy about the fact they dont need to play WoW any longer!
DF is a good popular MMO right now. Sure we can troll it and trash it, but the fact still remain for the ones playing it. DF is a awesome game. No other MMO have anything on DF right now. So if you bash DF you also bash all other MMOs. And if you bash MMOs, you maybe dont like MMOs....so what are you doing here on a MMO site in the first place?
Where did these "servers" coming up come from? according to Tasos from day one until now, DF will have only one server, the same as EVE.
Amazing how the fanbois forget things like this to make their feeble arguments.
You really are trying too hard, and if you think they will only ever have one World Instance you don't understand the game. You should really try to Troll harder.
The Max a world instance can support is upto 20k concurrency the optimum DFO are aiming for is 10k... Once the initial criteria is met more World instances will be made available. That has always been the plan and always will be.
(why am i wasting my time you aren't interested)
The one trying too hard is you. If the game was so great, you wouldn't be wasting your time trying to "defend" it against us "trolls". You'd be playing. Unless you aren't one of the "lucky" ones who got the privilege to pay to play beta.
But I'll bite. Show me the official quote from Tasos, Claus, or any other moron over at Aventurine saying there will be more "worlds", since one of the big attention grabbers they flaunted was the "one server, one world" bullshit.
Or maybe that was just one more lie by the great Tasos. He's already racked so many up, fanbois will be busy for years trying to spin them all.
You need to step outside the Darkfall curtain. Reality is slowly slipping away from you.
How is bashing Darkfall ( or it's idiotic devs in my case ) bashing every other mmo? Think before you type.
And no other mmo has anything on Darkfall? Nice opinion, but far from fact.
This game isn't closing down anytime soon...lol that's just retarded.. In fact with new servers opening up soon "North American" and "Euro 2" included.I have bad news for the usual Shit talkers, This game is only going growing in popularity. War Hulks or Large sea vessels havent even been built yet on Euro1 and the politics in game are just now ramping up. 6 months from now this game is going to be crazy. I was in a battle last night one on the side of "Savage Alliance" I've never seen anything like it in an mmo before. we're talking hundreds and hundreds of people. Don't let alot of the trolls fool you here, this game is awesome, just not for the faint of heart
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/1295/darfallpoliticalmap1800g.jpg
there's a political map of how things are starting to shape out
Where did these "servers" coming up come from? according to Tasos from day one until now, DF will have only one server, the same as EVE.
Amazing how the fanbois forget things like this to make their feeble arguments.
You really are trying too hard, and if you think they will only ever have one World Instance you don't understand the game. You should really try to Troll harder.
The Max a world instance can support is upto 20k concurrency the optimum DFO are aiming for is 10k... Once the initial criteria is met more World instances will be made available. That has always been the plan and always will be.
(why am i wasting my time you aren't interested)
The one trying too hard is you. If the game was so great, you wouldn't be wasting your time trying to "defend" it against us "trolls". You'd be playing. Unless you aren't one of the "lucky" ones who got the privilege to pay to play beta.
But I'll bite. Show me the official quote from Tasos, Claus, or any other moron over at Aventurine saying there will be more "worlds", since one of the big attention grabbers they flaunted was the "one server, one world" bullshit.
Or maybe that was just one more lie by the great Tasos. He's already racked so many up, fanbois will be busy for years trying to spin them all.
http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?p=3100499#post3100499
"We are also working on opening up new servers to meet the demand."
Not new worlds, new servers
In 6 months it wil go Free To Play with Cash Shop. The way it was intended to be from the start.
If MO doesn't suck, then DF's life will be shortlived. I don't think they have the captial to keep it running.
But for now, I picked greater than 6 months.
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Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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Close down ??? ....need to try this game first and after u gona find the answear !!!
You need to step outside the Darkfall curtain. Reality is slowly slipping away from you.
How is bashing Darkfall ( or it's idiotic devs in my case ) bashing every other mmo? Think before you type.
And no other mmo has anything on Darkfall? Nice opinion, but far from fact.
But in what other MMO can i do everything i can do in darkfall? Right now there is nothing to compete with DF. And if a bunch of amateurs from Greece manages to do this, why havent companys as Blizzard done anything with citybuilding, mounted combat and multipersonal ships? The fact still remain, all other MMOs fall a long way behind DF. Any MMO you choose to play, you need to step down to reach it (right now).
I dont like that either. But its the way it is . Or name another game that can give me something similar!
PS I had to come back here for a while, im working out of town....cant play : (
Tenth they need to wipe their Tandy server and install a private WoW server and then they will have a decent game at least.
You need to step outside the Darkfall curtain. Reality is slowly slipping away from you.
How is bashing Darkfall ( or it's idiotic devs in my case ) bashing every other mmo? Think before you type.
And no other mmo has anything on Darkfall? Nice opinion, but far from fact.
But in what other MMO can i do everything i can do in darkfall? Right now there is nothing to compete with DF. And if a bunch of amateurs from Greece manages to do this, why havent companys as Blizzard done anything with citybuilding, mounted combat and multipersonal ships? The fact still remain, all other MMOs fall a long way behind DF. Any MMO you choose to play, you need to step down to reach it (right now).
I dont like that either. But its the way it is . Or name another game that can give me something similar!
PS I had to come back here for a while, im working out of town....cant play : (
simply because blizzard and other big name developers are after gross markets not niche markets.
Darkfall has at best a 20000 player population (being overly optimistic here), liking wow or not, blizzard has a 5 to 11 million player base to only cares about arenas, bg's raid and instanced dungeons. that is where the $ is. Producing a darkfall product would alienate a great part of those customers, when that player base expects a wow II. It is a bad bussiness decision.
Another big name company making a mmorpg is BioWare. And while the sanbox model (that df follows) was on the table for a short period, it was ruled against since, once more, it wouldn't attract the amount of players bioware would like to get.
Truth is either blizzard or bioware have enough $ to make a darkfall kind of game without any problems, that would be better than darkfall (in the end everything is about $, with $ you can hire the programers, developers. coders animators and artists to make any project), they don't do it simply because market prospection and analyse agencies (like the one my wife works and that has at least 2 times being contracted by blizzard ) tell them that would be a vain effort since the amount of gamers that would be interested in such product would produce irrelevant (for companies of their size) cash flows
Even EVE the most popular (and probably well made) sandbox game around generate revenues that are not enough to even pay for the operational cost of wow's server clusters.
the only other game currently on the market similar to darkfall (no mounted combat-hmm maybe it haswith the hoth upgrade not sure about it- tho but better economic and urbanistic options and multi passenger/personal ships) is Star wars galaxies, tha also retains probably the best economic and crafting systems ever deployed on a MMO's and social system without paralel in any other game of it's type (apart the sims i guess). And even with that we all know how much population/popularity it has (less than 5% of wow's customers).
No other company* has done city building and mounted combat for their mmo, because they chose not to. They have not focused on it.
Apparently not everyone finds these features the most important. Multiperson vehicles do exist in other mmos though, wow for example. But no ships that you can control yourself, only land mounts and vehicles.
If you truly find these 3 features the most important aspect of an mmo, then there is indeed only darkfall for you.
*I don't know any mmo wich has these features, this doesn't mean that there are none.