It is pretty silly that AoC didn't move up on that day, so maybe all the casuals were logged on to all video games. It is still 44th so all 43 games above it had as many or more players that day.
and... who cares?
how is that any relevant to this thread?
You tried comparing it with other MMOs, the other 17 MMOs were all still above it, so they must have had higher numbers that day as well.
i didnt notice any spike on the number of players online this weekend.
About the debate that is going on here. If the game was released in its current state population would be around 400k minimum(imho. )They released the game 1 year early it seems. wonder if it was worth it.
DX10 is on its way now as well as the itemisation patch. Will these two additions make more people come back? Of course it will.
I beg to differ! AoC has no hype, the utterance of the words "Age of Conan" is a curse word that burns the ears and incites disdainful fire to bellow out of the mouths of many formaer AoC players. So not many will know about any of this in the first place.
1) DX 10, I'm not sure what type of gamer will play a game just for DX 10, I got a new PC last year and opted on Win XP because it's better and I can hack crysis to play on very high anyway. However if you are right, I'm sure it will just upset people that the patch is just an unoptimized beta test on a live server.
2) Itemization patch: No idea how people can play an RPG for 10 months with meaningless gear. However, some people will be upset over it and quit the game. The real issue is AoC has poor GAME MECHANICS! Everything is tied into animations so it is impossible to change base damage without changing the animations, which won't happen. Because base damage is so high one of two things will happen:
a) The extra stats will make the game a two shot fest just like damage gems did and upset everyone who doesn't enjoy a counter strike MMO.
b) The stats will still be so marginal no one will care.
DX10 is on its way now as well as the itemisation patch. Will these two additions make more people come back? Of course it will.
I beg to differ! AoC has no hype, the utterance of the words "Age of Conan" is a curse word that burns the ears and incites disdainful fire to bellow out of the mouths of many formaer AoC players. So not many will know about any of this in the first place.
1) DX 10, I'm not sure what type of gamer will play a game just for DX 10, I got a new PC last year and opted on Win XP because it's better and I can hack crysis to play on very high anyway. However if you are right, I'm sure it will just upset people that the patch is just an unoptimized beta test on a live server.
2) Itemization patch: No idea how people can play an RPG for 10 months with meaningless gear. However, some people will be upset over it and quit the game. The real issue is AoC has poor GAME MECHANICS! Everything is tied into animations so it is impossible to change base damage without changing the animations, which won't happen. Because base damage is so high one of two things will happen:
a) The extra stats will make the game a two shot fest just like damage gems did and upset everyone who doesn't enjoy a counter strike MMO.
b) The stats will still be so marginal no one will care.
The introduction of DX10 and itemisation are improvements to the game, each improvement makes the game better, a better game draws more players.
Of course you can break it down as you have and say no one will play a game for DX10 only. But you can say that about any patch to any game, and the natural conculsion from your way of thinking is that there is no need to patch any game. Which i am sure you do not agree with.
It seems that you are so intent on discrediting AoC that the arguments you put forward are simply silly, take a step back and see what you are saying, you are saying that the DX10 patch and item patch will drive more people away than attract?!?
But hey I guess nothing will satisfy you, i am sure you have complained in the past that AOC was released without DX10(even though it was printed on the box), now they bring it in you complain that is is not worth it. Meh.....................
So, how many instances were there in different zones on Sunday? Seems to me that's the best way to estimate how many people were online.
Are the BK fights still limited to 96 people? Maybe it changed but, I don't think regular zones had anywhere near even that high of a pop limit before a new instance was created.
So, how many instances were there in different zones on Sunday? Seems to me that's the best way to estimate how many people were online. Are the BK fights still limited to 96 people? Maybe it changed but, I don't think regular zones had anywhere near even that high of a pop limit before a new instance was created.
Actually yesterday (monday) there were several instances of Fields of Dead. The game automatically notified and transported all members of my group to the same instance.
Interesting hyphothesis OP... but there is no proof that the population is increasing. You are just one person saying what you thought... so you happened to bump into some extra players that day.
Since you used a Sunday... lets look at the last few Sundays
Mar 22nd 7245
Mar 15th 7543
Mar 8th 6969
Mar 1st 7505
I'm not trying to dismiss your observations, but those number hardly indicate growth. Also, AOC is ranked 48th today and hasn't moved much from that number. If there was an increase in AOC population, then apparently the 47 games ranked above it also saw an increase.
The game is fun, but you are probably just trying to hype the game.
Interesting hyphothesis OP... but there is no proof that the population is increasing. You are just one person saying what you thought... so you happened to bump into some extra players that day. Since you used a Sunday... lets look at the last few Sundays Mar 22nd 7245
Mar 15th 7543
Mar 8th 6969
Mar 1st 7505 You realize these are times and not number of players. Thus, there could have been twenty more players, but some logged in for an hour less that day due to a family gathering or dinner, etc, etc. This proves just that we do not know peoples schedules. I'm not trying to dismiss your observations, but those number hardly indicate growth. Also, AOC is ranked 48th today and hasn't moved much from that number. If there was an increase in AOC population, then apparently the 47 games ranked above it also saw an increase. The issue remains that Xfire tracks time to represent it's spot on the chart. Thus, it does not matter whether it is 44 or 48, growth is represented by the number of players. Try to track the number of players per day or week, then you should be able to get a more obvious answer than what your assuming. I have already shown this in my blog postings from earlier in this thread.
The game is fun, but you are probably just trying to hype the game. Why is it that when we discuss the game or times or players, it is hype. Really, if I am going to "hype" the game, I will make a blog and shout it out there or twitter it to death (which I do for all my hype). Discussing the game on MMORPG's forums is not hype...it is actually torture thanks to the number of haters and the "better be careful what you say or someones feelings will get hurt and they will report you" crap.
ok, you are probably right but read the title of this thread.
" Unprecedented population spike".
Then you go to Xfire to look, and the graph 'spike' is actually not there. The spikes on the graph are basically the same for every Sunday that is shown. I don't use xfire, but it looks like LOTRO and War also have spikes on weekends.
Also, as others have pointed out.. AOC has not moved up the charts.. it is still at 48. If there really was a population spike, then wouldn't it be moving up the charts.
The reason I said 'hype' is because of the wording of the topic. " Unprecedented".. " Spike". If AOC has grown since December, then say that !!! Don't make it sound like this Sunday was anything special, because this Sunday was actually less than 2 of the Sundays in the past 3 weeks.
The information you posted showing the numbers in Nov/Dec was very interesting and does show growth... but the OP here is just hyping and lying.
It is pretty silly that AoC didn't move up on that day, so maybe all the casuals were logged on to all video games. It is still 44th so all 43 games above it had as many or more players that day.
and... who cares?
how is that any relevant to this thread?
You tried comparing it with other MMOs, the other 17 MMOs were all still above it, so they must have had higher numbers that day as well.
no, i did not compare anything to anything else as far as user numbers, try to read the post first before you reply next time.
i asked people who were playing last subnday, if you were online then answer the question, if not then im not interested in your opinion here cause it is not related to this thread. and we can read xFire numbers ourselves too !
ok, you are probably right but read the title of this thread. " Unprecedented population spike". Then you go to Xfire to look, and the graph 'spike' is actually not there. The spikes on the graph are basically the same for every Sunday that is shown. I don't use xfire, but it looks like LOTRO and War also have spikes on weekends. Also, as others have pointed out.. AOC has not moved up the charts.. it is still at 48. If there really was a population spike, then wouldn't it be moving up the charts. The reason I said 'hype' is because of the wording of the topic. " Unprecedented".. " Spike". If AOC has grown since December, then say that !!! Don't make it sound like this Sunday was anything special, because this Sunday was actually less than 2 of the Sundays in the past 3 weeks. The information you posted showing the numbers in Nov/Dec was very interesting and does show growth... but the OP here is just hyping and lying.
and you are just a troll who cant read one simple english sentence.
this is the title of this thread: "Anyone thinks that this last sunday there was an unprecedented population spike? "
not as you claim: " Unprecedented population spike".
so clearly, you have more serious problems then "AoC population" to take care of.
dude.. I'm not a troll, I'm an active player. But you are the reason AOC has such a bad name. You use the word 'unprecedented population spike'.... which is pure hype and the reason so many people hate funcom.
Ever since the mergers, the 4 US servers have always been full on weekends. I have no problem finding groups. There is no reason to lie and talk about this particular Sunday being unusual when in fact it was very average for the past month or two.
Your crazy talk hype makes it much harder for us normal people to talk about the game. You just make it easy for the trolls to badmouth the game. The last thing we need is an amateur EE with bad grammer creating threads on forums. It would be much better for AOC if we had realistic players talking about the fun they are having.... but we can't, because we have to spend our time defending AOC from people responding to your 'unprecedented' posts.
dude.. I'm not a troll, I'm an active player. But you are the reason AOC has such a bad name. You use the word 'unprecedented population spike'.... which is pure hype and the reason so many people hate funcom. Ever since the mergers, the 4 US servers have always been full on weekends. I have no problem finding groups. There is no reason to lie and talk about this particular Sunday being unusual when in fact it was very average for the past month or two. Your crazy talk hype makes it much harder for us normal people to talk about the game. You just make it easy for the trolls to badmouth the game. The last thing we need is an amateur EE with bad grammer creating threads on forums. It would be much better for AOC if we had realistic players talking about the fun they are having.... but we can't, because we have to spend our time defending AOC from people responding to your 'unprecedented' posts.
if you are not a troll, then stop acting like one
read more and post less til you can read plain english text, and never quote text partially cause thats a cheap way of trolling.
For those of us that are ACTUALLY PLAYING we see the growth. Regardless of what your PERCEPTIONS are from forum activity (really? Forum activity? it's usually what? 5-10% of the total pop of any game?) or your ESTIMATES about the retention of the euro market, as someone that logs in almost daily, and in a guild were we are seeing 1-2 players EVERYDAY showing interest in playing again, I agree w/ the OP -
Sunday was extremely active. I had no wait times for PVP mini-games during the day on Wicanna. That was a first in my short time w/ the game.
Yes, because your subjective experience in an instanced zone on a single server with a capped population can make any realistic analysis of the game's population.
Forum activity is consistently related to the population of a game (within a game that is, not across all games) because it is an accurate reflection of those 5-10% of gamers who post.
And because Funcom has provided, at least in the past when they had solid subscriptions lol, subscription numbers, we know how the correlation works with this game. And although you may like to think that, through some sort of pixie magic, that the only people who quit are forum posters and those that join up will never post, it is completely untrue.
So Sunday was a big play day by Funcom standards. Wooo. It doesn't mean that the game isn't bleeding subscribers. In fact, we have evidence that the game is still bleeding subscribers.
How? Funcom itself. Pretty simple.
I guess you purposefully ignored where I stated that my guild (that has well over 300 people across 3+ games) has 1-2 players everyday returning and showing interest? Or do they not count b/c they aren’t posting on the “official” forums?
I guess you ignore the multiple posts about where people who are, unlike you, actually playing and see the players who are in general with questions about returning. I see at the very least 5 of those types of comments from different people a night. And that’s only the ones asking questions. Or can you not calculate them b/c they don’t’ have Xfire?
I like how you can call my observations subjective, when you don’t have a single piece of hard evidence, other then the blatant and constructed lies that you spew on these boards, selling them as facts. It’s further a pathetic propaganda scattering that’s evidenced in your lack of any knowledge of what’s going on in the game.
Your selective reasoning and mismanaged math to troll these boards w/ your transparent and petty agenda is hilarious. Additionally, the “litigator” part of your name must be a reference to your RL job as a lawyer, b/c you’re an expert at manipulating words to make lies sound more believable. Things like Funcom stating that they are seeing improvements, you somehow mangle it into “bleeding subscriptions”.
dude.. I'm not a troll, I'm an active player. But you are the reason AOC has such a bad name. You use the word 'unprecedented population spike'.... which is pure hype and the reason so many people hate funcom.
And again, with not reading. There WAS a population spike, that is, If you look at the number of players, and not the times.
The OP does not state "unprecedented time spike".
No hype here, just facts. But, of course you need to read the thread first. Please do so. Please look at my research in another thread where I have proven a population "spike" on Xfire (not a time spike, so quit looking at the graph, and look at numbers)
I guess you purposefully ignored where I stated that my guild (that has well over 300 people across 3+ games) has 1-2 players everyday returning and showing interest? Or do they not count b/c they aren’t posting on the “official” forums?
I guess you ignore the multiple posts about where people who are, unlike you, actually playing and see the players who are in general with questions about returning. I see at the very least 5 of those types of comments from different people a night. And that’s only the ones asking questions. Or can you not calculate them b/c they don’t’ have Xfire? I like how you can call my observations subjective, when you don’t have a single piece of hard evidence, other then the blatant and constructed lies that you spew on these boards, selling them as facts. It’s further a pathetic propaganda scattering that’s evidenced in your lack of any knowledge of what’s going on in the game. Your selective reasoning and mismanaged math to troll these boards w/ your transparent and petty agenda is hilarious. Additionally, the “litigator” part of your name must be a reference to your RL job as a lawyer, b/c you’re an expert at manipulating words to make lies sound more believable. Things like Funcom stating that they are seeing improvements, you somehow mangle it into “bleeding subscriptions”.
I find it rude to ignore people. I will address your points:
#1: Your guild has 1-2 people returning a day. I'm assuming these are people who previously played. If this could be shown across all large guilds that would be evidence. But as it stands, perhaps your growth as a guild from new and returning players is giving you an inaccurate impression of how the game is doing. It also allows for the possibility that for every person who rejoins your guild there is a corresponding player who leaves the game. Possible?
#2: People asking about returning and people actually forking out money to return are two different things. Game inquiries do not equal subscriptions, and even if they did, there is always a constant outflow of subscriptions. A game with a completely stable population will have an exact balance of new players to match lost subscriptions. Who are you to say where that balance is? I suggest that the balance is best analyzed from internal Funcom numbers (dollars and cents) rather than the perception within one guild on one server on a singular continent.
#3: My hard evidence is the audited review of Funcom's revenue by Chartered Accountants in Norway. I suggest to you that that is prima facie "hard" evidence. Or rather, they are empirical facts, provided in a manner that ensure reliability and validity.
#4: I am well aware of how the game is progressing. I have access to both the European and General forums. I have access to TL as well through a friend's account.
after reading all of this crap and being a former AoC player, i can honestly say, who gives a shit. the population "spiked" for one day. wooohooooo!!!!!! AoC is freaking back!!!! its the second coming of Christ!!!!!
where there more people on on monday, tuesday....... doubtful.
what is with this crap dealing with population statistics and rating on xfire. lets address this once and for all.
XFIRE is not a accurate depiction of the current population of AOC, let alone any MMO. why? well lets keep it simple for the slow people in the back of the bus. In order to establish a credible base statistic of AOC from one Quarter, month, or week; every single Player, once again for the slow people in the back, EVERY SINGLE player, would have to have enabled Xfire in their task manager/background tallying their time on AOC, or whatever MMO flavor you have a fetish for. So there for, it is unreliable at best, inaccurate at worst.
What it does, is give you a "generalized snapshot" of the current population, of those currently logged onto xfire, not, I repeat, not logged onto the game, that wouldinclude those playing as a whole on the server.
those who keep Xfire enabled in the background of their computer, it tallies their time alloted in the MMO of their choice. WHy do i say this? I experimented with it. I had around 493 hours wow TOTAL! guess what, I play WOW damn never every day or every other day, since I havent used Xfire in god knows how long, for arguement sake, lets also include AOC.I only have 106 hours tallied on AOC despite having a lvl 80 conq, lvl 79 necro NF, a lvl 65 guardian, lvl 55 TOS. see where I am going with this?? it all comes down to documentation, and logging. Xfire logs your time since I havent any time logged with AOC that would technically skew the numbers to a lower base average when computing the rest of the people who have their hours logged. so for all you know I never played AOC past 106 hours so that reduces the total overall # hours played in each week, month, or Quarter.
so to state AOC has go down the drain based on the "accuracy" of xfire statistics, is no more different than me shouting out a random number into the darkness for those who may or may not hear. its unreliable at best, inaccurate at worst. I wanted to get this to the front of the topic since so many of you love to throw numbers, and statistics out like free skittles to the masses. If your going to spew statistics and numbers, have facts to back up your arguement. I HAVE SPOKEN lol.
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To take the thread back on topic.. I'd just like to say that WAR F2P period now has ended for a lot of the guys that dived in for some F2P gameing earlier in March. Anything that is free is consumed so it's nothing but expected that there is a population/activity increase back in the homes of the the F2P players once the crumbles are eaten. That's what I think you might be seeing.
You're actually wrong here.
We were experiencing this same kind of sudden burst in population in WAR (Eltharion - EU) and they were subscribers because it's T4 I'm talking about.
To take the thread back on topic.. I'd just like to say that WAR F2P period now has ended for a lot of the guys that dived in for some F2P gameing earlier in March. Anything that is free is consumed so it's nothing but expected that there is a population/activity increase back in the homes of the the F2P players once the crumbles are eaten. That's what I think you might be seeing.
You're actually wrong here.
We were experiencing this same kind of sudden burst in population in WAR (Eltharion - EU) and they were subscribers because it's T4 I'm talking about.
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and... who cares?
how is that any relevant to this thread?
You tried comparing it with other MMOs, the other 17 MMOs were all still above it, so they must have had higher numbers that day as well.
Funcom has reviewed all of its assets relevant for
impairment testing. This process has led to
recognition of an impairment loss of around
3,1 MUSD for Age of Conan due to a decrease in
numbers of subscribers for the game. Funcom Q4 10 report.
http://forums.ageofconan.com/showpost.php?p=2926123&postcount=7 500 mains/alts on Tyranny in past 30 days - instead of merge servers let's open a new PvP server, again! http://forums-eu.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=106427
Whether there was a spike this weekend or not the fact remains that the game will have an increasing population.
You dont need figures to prove it and there is no need to prove it anyway.
DX10 is on its way now as well as the itemisation patch. Will these two additions make more people come back? Of course it will.
Ultimately AoC is heading in the right direction under the new boss and with it will come an increase in pop as we are already seeing, period.
i didnt notice any spike on the number of players online this weekend.
About the debate that is going on here. If the game was released in its current state population would be around 400k minimum(imho. )They released the game 1 year early it seems. wonder if it was worth it.
I need more vespene gas.
I beg to differ! AoC has no hype, the utterance of the words "Age of Conan" is a curse word that burns the ears and incites disdainful fire to bellow out of the mouths of many formaer AoC players. So not many will know about any of this in the first place.
1) DX 10, I'm not sure what type of gamer will play a game just for DX 10, I got a new PC last year and opted on Win XP because it's better and I can hack crysis to play on very high anyway. However if you are right, I'm sure it will just upset people that the patch is just an unoptimized beta test on a live server.
2) Itemization patch: No idea how people can play an RPG for 10 months with meaningless gear. However, some people will be upset over it and quit the game. The real issue is AoC has poor GAME MECHANICS! Everything is tied into animations so it is impossible to change base damage without changing the animations, which won't happen. Because base damage is so high one of two things will happen:
a) The extra stats will make the game a two shot fest just like damage gems did and upset everyone who doesn't enjoy a counter strike MMO.
b) The stats will still be so marginal no one will care.
Funcom has reviewed all of its assets relevant for
impairment testing. This process has led to
recognition of an impairment loss of around
3,1 MUSD for Age of Conan due to a decrease in
numbers of subscribers for the game. Funcom Q4 10 report.
http://forums.ageofconan.com/showpost.php?p=2926123&postcount=7 500 mains/alts on Tyranny in past 30 days - instead of merge servers let's open a new PvP server, again! http://forums-eu.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=106427
I beg to differ! AoC has no hype, the utterance of the words "Age of Conan" is a curse word that burns the ears and incites disdainful fire to bellow out of the mouths of many formaer AoC players. So not many will know about any of this in the first place.
1) DX 10, I'm not sure what type of gamer will play a game just for DX 10, I got a new PC last year and opted on Win XP because it's better and I can hack crysis to play on very high anyway. However if you are right, I'm sure it will just upset people that the patch is just an unoptimized beta test on a live server.
2) Itemization patch: No idea how people can play an RPG for 10 months with meaningless gear. However, some people will be upset over it and quit the game. The real issue is AoC has poor GAME MECHANICS! Everything is tied into animations so it is impossible to change base damage without changing the animations, which won't happen. Because base damage is so high one of two things will happen:
a) The extra stats will make the game a two shot fest just like damage gems did and upset everyone who doesn't enjoy a counter strike MMO.
b) The stats will still be so marginal no one will care.
The introduction of DX10 and itemisation are improvements to the game, each improvement makes the game better, a better game draws more players.
Of course you can break it down as you have and say no one will play a game for DX10 only. But you can say that about any patch to any game, and the natural conculsion from your way of thinking is that there is no need to patch any game. Which i am sure you do not agree with.
It seems that you are so intent on discrediting AoC that the arguments you put forward are simply silly, take a step back and see what you are saying, you are saying that the DX10 patch and item patch will drive more people away than attract?!?
But hey I guess nothing will satisfy you, i am sure you have complained in the past that AOC was released without DX10(even though it was printed on the box), now they bring it in you complain that is is not worth it. Meh.....................
So, how many instances were there in different zones on Sunday? Seems to me that's the best way to estimate how many people were online.
Are the BK fights still limited to 96 people? Maybe it changed but, I don't think regular zones had anywhere near even that high of a pop limit before a new instance was created.
Actually yesterday (monday) there were several instances of Fields of Dead. The game automatically notified and transported all members of my group to the same instance.
Interesting hyphothesis OP... but there is no proof that the population is increasing. You are just one person saying what you thought... so you happened to bump into some extra players that day.
Since you used a Sunday... lets look at the last few Sundays
Mar 22nd 7245
Mar 15th 7543
Mar 8th 6969
Mar 1st 7505
I'm not trying to dismiss your observations, but those number hardly indicate growth. Also, AOC is ranked 48th today and hasn't moved much from that number. If there was an increase in AOC population, then apparently the 47 games ranked above it also saw an increase.
The game is fun, but you are probably just trying to hype the game.
ok, you are probably right but read the title of this thread.
" Unprecedented population spike".
Then you go to Xfire to look, and the graph 'spike' is actually not there. The spikes on the graph are basically the same for every Sunday that is shown. I don't use xfire, but it looks like LOTRO and War also have spikes on weekends.
Also, as others have pointed out.. AOC has not moved up the charts.. it is still at 48. If there really was a population spike, then wouldn't it be moving up the charts.
The reason I said 'hype' is because of the wording of the topic. " Unprecedented".. " Spike". If AOC has grown since December, then say that !!! Don't make it sound like this Sunday was anything special, because this Sunday was actually less than 2 of the Sundays in the past 3 weeks.
The information you posted showing the numbers in Nov/Dec was very interesting and does show growth... but the OP here is just hyping and lying.
and... who cares?
how is that any relevant to this thread?
You tried comparing it with other MMOs, the other 17 MMOs were all still above it, so they must have had higher numbers that day as well.
no, i did not compare anything to anything else as far as user numbers, try to read the post first before you reply next time.
i asked people who were playing last subnday, if you were online then answer the question, if not then im not interested in your opinion here cause it is not related to this thread. and we can read xFire numbers ourselves too !
and you are just a troll who cant read one simple english sentence.
this is the title of this thread: "Anyone thinks that this last sunday there was an unprecedented population spike? "
not as you claim: " Unprecedented population spike".
so clearly, you have more serious problems then "AoC population" to take care of.
dude.. I'm not a troll, I'm an active player. But you are the reason AOC has such a bad name. You use the word 'unprecedented population spike'.... which is pure hype and the reason so many people hate funcom.
Ever since the mergers, the 4 US servers have always been full on weekends. I have no problem finding groups. There is no reason to lie and talk about this particular Sunday being unusual when in fact it was very average for the past month or two.
Your crazy talk hype makes it much harder for us normal people to talk about the game. You just make it easy for the trolls to badmouth the game. The last thing we need is an amateur EE with bad grammer creating threads on forums. It would be much better for AOC if we had realistic players talking about the fun they are having.... but we can't, because we have to spend our time defending AOC from people responding to your 'unprecedented' posts.
if you are not a troll, then stop acting like one
read more and post less til you can read plain english text, and never quote text partially cause thats a cheap way of trolling.
Good thing it's not! It's growing!
For those of us that are ACTUALLY PLAYING we see the growth. Regardless of what your PERCEPTIONS are from forum activity (really? Forum activity? it's usually what? 5-10% of the total pop of any game?) or your ESTIMATES about the retention of the euro market, as someone that logs in almost daily, and in a guild were we are seeing 1-2 players EVERYDAY showing interest in playing again, I agree w/ the OP -
Sunday was extremely active. I had no wait times for PVP mini-games during the day on Wicanna. That was a first in my short time w/ the game.
Yes, because your subjective experience in an instanced zone on a single server with a capped population can make any realistic analysis of the game's population.
Forum activity is consistently related to the population of a game (within a game that is, not across all games) because it is an accurate reflection of those 5-10% of gamers who post.
And because Funcom has provided, at least in the past when they had solid subscriptions lol, subscription numbers, we know how the correlation works with this game. And although you may like to think that, through some sort of pixie magic, that the only people who quit are forum posters and those that join up will never post, it is completely untrue.
So Sunday was a big play day by Funcom standards. Wooo. It doesn't mean that the game isn't bleeding subscribers. In fact, we have evidence that the game is still bleeding subscribers.
How? Funcom itself. Pretty simple.
I guess you purposefully ignored where I stated that my guild (that has well over 300 people across 3+ games) has 1-2 players everyday returning and showing interest? Or do they not count b/c they aren’t posting on the “official” forums?
I guess you ignore the multiple posts about where people who are, unlike you, actually playing and see the players who are in general with questions about returning. I see at the very least 5 of those types of comments from different people a night. And that’s only the ones asking questions. Or can you not calculate them b/c they don’t’ have Xfire?
I like how you can call my observations subjective, when you don’t have a single piece of hard evidence, other then the blatant and constructed lies that you spew on these boards, selling them as facts. It’s further a pathetic propaganda scattering that’s evidenced in your lack of any knowledge of what’s going on in the game.
Your selective reasoning and mismanaged math to troll these boards w/ your transparent and petty agenda is hilarious. Additionally, the “litigator” part of your name must be a reference to your RL job as a lawyer, b/c you’re an expert at manipulating words to make lies sound more believable. Things like Funcom stating that they are seeing improvements, you somehow mangle it into “bleeding subscriptions”.
And again, with not reading. There WAS a population spike, that is, If you look at the number of players, and not the times.
The OP does not state "unprecedented time spike".
No hype here, just facts. But, of course you need to read the thread first. Please do so. Please look at my research in another thread where I have proven a population "spike" on Xfire (not a time spike, so quit looking at the graph, and look at numbers)
Thanks
I find it rude to ignore people. I will address your points:
#1: Your guild has 1-2 people returning a day. I'm assuming these are people who previously played. If this could be shown across all large guilds that would be evidence. But as it stands, perhaps your growth as a guild from new and returning players is giving you an inaccurate impression of how the game is doing. It also allows for the possibility that for every person who rejoins your guild there is a corresponding player who leaves the game. Possible?
#2: People asking about returning and people actually forking out money to return are two different things. Game inquiries do not equal subscriptions, and even if they did, there is always a constant outflow of subscriptions. A game with a completely stable population will have an exact balance of new players to match lost subscriptions. Who are you to say where that balance is? I suggest that the balance is best analyzed from internal Funcom numbers (dollars and cents) rather than the perception within one guild on one server on a singular continent.
#3: My hard evidence is the audited review of Funcom's revenue by Chartered Accountants in Norway. I suggest to you that that is prima facie "hard" evidence. Or rather, they are empirical facts, provided in a manner that ensure reliability and validity.
#4: I am well aware of how the game is progressing. I have access to both the European and General forums. I have access to TL as well through a friend's account.
#5: Hugs.
Lit
Well, I got my Buddy Key and started playing Sunday. I must be responsible for the spike cuz I'm has that much awesomeness.
First impression: RUN ANIMATIONS FUCKING SUCK!
Second impression: JUMP ANIMATIONS FUCKING SUCK!
Third impression: Nice world, good combat animations.
Fourth impression: Cool, I get to rescue a slut.
That's about it so far.
after reading all of this crap and being a former AoC player, i can honestly say, who gives a shit. the population "spiked" for one day. wooohooooo!!!!!! AoC is freaking back!!!! its the second coming of Christ!!!!!
where there more people on on monday, tuesday....... doubtful.
what is with this crap dealing with population statistics and rating on xfire. lets address this once and for all.
XFIRE is not a accurate depiction of the current population of AOC, let alone any MMO. why? well lets keep it simple for the slow people in the back of the bus. In order to establish a credible base statistic of AOC from one Quarter, month, or week; every single Player, once again for the slow people in the back, EVERY SINGLE player, would have to have enabled Xfire in their task manager/background tallying their time on AOC, or whatever MMO flavor you have a fetish for. So there for, it is unreliable at best, inaccurate at worst.
What it does, is give you a "generalized snapshot" of the current population, of those currently logged onto xfire, not, I repeat, not logged onto the game, that wouldinclude those playing as a whole on the server.
those who keep Xfire enabled in the background of their computer, it tallies their time alloted in the MMO of their choice. WHy do i say this? I experimented with it. I had around 493 hours wow TOTAL! guess what, I play WOW damn never every day or every other day, since I havent used Xfire in god knows how long, for arguement sake, lets also include AOC.I only have 106 hours tallied on AOC despite having a lvl 80 conq, lvl 79 necro NF, a lvl 65 guardian, lvl 55 TOS. see where I am going with this?? it all comes down to documentation, and logging. Xfire logs your time since I havent any time logged with AOC that would technically skew the numbers to a lower base average when computing the rest of the people who have their hours logged. so for all you know I never played AOC past 106 hours so that reduces the total overall # hours played in each week, month, or Quarter.
so to state AOC has go down the drain based on the "accuracy" of xfire statistics, is no more different than me shouting out a random number into the darkness for those who may or may not hear. its unreliable at best, inaccurate at worst. I wanted to get this to the front of the topic since so many of you love to throw numbers, and statistics out like free skittles to the masses. If your going to spew statistics and numbers, have facts to back up your arguement. I HAVE SPOKEN lol.
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You're actually wrong here.
We were experiencing this same kind of sudden burst in population in WAR (Eltharion - EU) and they were subscribers because it's T4 I'm talking about.
Maybe it was just a global play-a-mmo-weekend :P
You're actually wrong here.
We were experiencing this same kind of sudden burst in population in WAR (Eltharion - EU) and they were subscribers because it's T4 I'm talking about.
Maybe it was just a global play-a-mmo-weekend :P
Lets hope so. Power to the MMOers