The OP isn't off. Vanguard is a very good game provided you are willing to accept certain things. I have the graphics at practically all max and I always marvel at some of the incredible graphics. Having said that, it's not consistent and sometimes you get bland areas or textures. The world is huge. And this is precisely why I am playing it. You can travel a long time and still not see all there is to see. In my opinion this is how a world should be. However, because this is an explorer's game, you need to be of the correct mindset. If you want/need to sign in and get right into the action, Vanguard might not be for you. This of course could be mitigated by joining a guild, but you can literally spend 30 minutes just getting somewhere in order to see if there is anything to do in that area. Because I play "part time" and because I want to explore, this is perfect for me. But to most gamers who want to be very social, grouping up all the time or just spending their time in a more active role, the game might not work for them. The game is also glitchy and junky at times. Completely playable but you don't get the sense of polish that you get with WoW or LOTRO. So if one has a bit of patience then it's no big deal. If you don't then stay away, nothing to see here. The game doesn't really hold your hand. The new Trial Island is fun but it condenses a bit in order to teach you the game. Once you leave you are basically in a huge world. Not to everyone's liking. I posted this before, but one game session was just finding a city where I could buy a horse. I ended up falling into a fountain of sorts and was whisked away to a bowl held by a large statue on the side of a mountain. I could easily see that this wasn't meant to happen and lucked out by forcing myself (after many, many tries) to go over the flowing stream and land a long way down. Then I had to figure out how to get back and buy my horse. The reason I play it is because I used to play morrowind and always marvelled at discovering new things. I joined MMO's in order to get the same feeling but with real people. Unfortunatley I never really got that with any mmo, as some of them just didn't have enough to reward the explorer and in other games, the areas are sometimes gated if you are not on the appropriate quest (LOTRO for instance). If you like exploring, have patience, and don't mind long game play sessions that are not always filled with action, then Vangaurd could be for you. There are many races and classes. The character customizaton is "ok". You have a few face options and then you can alter things. Unfortunatley this game suffers from EQ 2 customization where everyone looks related, just with slightly different features. Not like the upcoming Aion for instance where you can practically make any face.
Lucky you.
Too bad that 4 out of 5 other players with that what you call 'correct mindset' will get distracted because of the crappy performance. Those players really want to enjoy the game, but the client doesnt let them.
They messed up big time with the stability and performance of the client and even though it has improved drastically, it is still sub par. Ive never seen a game where performance scaling is so badly executed. From release to a year after release it only went from unplayable to playable for some.
Everyone I see enter Veskal's Exchange for example, is stalling at some point. It is just ridiculous for such a small outpost.
This game doesnt suck because it is a SOE game. It sucks because it lost its player base after the horible launch. SOE has actually made the game playable, just to late for it to ever recover.
Lucky you. Too bad that 4 out of 5 other players with that what you call 'correct mindset' will get distracted because of the crappy performance. Those players really want to enjoy the game, but the client doesnt let them. They messed up big time with the stability and performance of the client and even though it has improved drastically, it is still sub par. Ive never seen a game where performance scaling is so badly executed. From release to a year after release it only went from unplayable to playable for some. Everyone I see enter Veskal's Exchange for example, is stalling at some point. It is just ridiculous for such a small outpost.
Listen, when stating "correct mindset" that is what it is.
I love long movies. Not everyone loves them. I love atonal 12 tone music or even just atonal music. Dollars to donuts most people don't.
When saying correct mindset that is pointing more toward general personality types. It's not an effort to qualify someone as opposed to, perhaps, quantify.
And that's where I said "patience". I don't get a lot of hiccups and don't mind a glitch here and there.
Is is subpar? Well, when compared to games such as WoW and LOTRO, most assuredly yes. But if you are the type of person who can over look this then it just doesn't matter.
I am not saying that "yay, I can play Vanguard and you can't". I am saying that I am able to overlook some things, and because of this can enjoy the game for the unique things it offers. Some others might be willing to do this as well.
Otherwise people should save their money and stay away, they will only be frustrated.
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This game doesnt suck because it is a SOE game. It sucks because it lost its player base after the horible launch. SOE has actually made the game playable, just to late for it to ever recover.
I think this is more the case.
The orginal devs messed up. Regardless of whether one loves or hates SOE (and I can easily understand why many would hate them), they stepped in and made it playable.
Will the game ever have the attention that other powerhouse games have? Probably not. It would require much more time and effort and a whole relaunch in order to do this.
I think Sony just keeps the game in its stable of games for the station pass for those who might want to play it.
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Vanguard isn't popular not because of bugs but because the graphics suck, the character models suck and it is very generic and just not interesting. It has no WoW factor and they even put teleports in it ruining the only good feature it had which was having to travel seamlessly. The lore is poor, the animations are poor and so are all the effects and the quests are boring and it has crap PVP and crafting. Theres nothing interesting or good about it and the worst thing has to be the character models..... man they are fucking retarded and I got excited for the new models but they looked just as shit as the old ones.
Its recovered. If it wasn't making money they wouldnt run the servers.
What this game needs is people playing. It also needs Sigil supporters to move on. one of the great things about software is it can be updated. Yes VG had a terrible launch but if you don't play the game for that reason then we don't want to you anyway.
Look at the game for what it is now which is the best game on the market imho.
Lucky you. Too bad that 4 out of 5 other players with that what you call 'correct mindset' will get distracted because of the crappy performance. Those players really want to enjoy the game, but the client doesnt let them. They messed up big time with the stability and performance of the client and even though it has improved drastically, it is still sub par. Ive never seen a game where performance scaling is so badly executed. From release to a year after release it only went from unplayable to playable for some. Everyone I see enter Veskal's Exchange for example, is stalling at some point. It is just ridiculous for such a small outpost.
Listen, when stating "correct mindset" that is what it is.
I love long movies. Not everyone loves them. I love atonal 12 tone music or even just atonal music. Dollars to donuts most people don't.
When saying correct mindset that is pointing more toward general personality types. It's not an effort to qualify someone as opposed to, perhaps, quantify.
And that's where I said "patience". I don't get a lot of hiccups and don't mind a glitch here and there.
Is is subpar? Well, when compared to games such as WoW and LOTRO, most assuredly yes. But if you are the type of person who can over look this then it just doesn't matter.
I am not saying that "yay, I can play Vanguard and you can't". I am saying that I am able to overlook some things, and because of this can enjoy the game for the unique things it offers. Some others might be willing to do this as well.
Otherwise people should save their money and stay away, they will only be frustrated.
I never disagreed about the way you used 'correct mindset'. I just pointed out that the reason why many players wont continue playing VG has nothing to do with that, but with the poor performance. Also nothing with patience, if they have the same mindset as you. Its just that those players are not able to get where you are. It is about a client that performs so bad, that those players wont be able to enjoy exploring and questing and the vast landscape.
They have to turn down the graphic settings so that the landscape loses a lot of its beauty and exploring will just make the next CTD come sooner. Even you, o so patient and correct mindset man, would draw a line somewhere if the client didnt like your computer.
VG is a great game and the MAIN reason why it doesnt have more players, is because of the crappy client performance. This goes way beyond 'overlooking some things' or having patience.
I never disagreed about the way you used 'correct mindset'. I just pointed out that the reason why many players wont continue playing VG has nothing to do with that, but with the poor performance. Also nothing with patience, if they have the same mindset as you. Its just that those players are not able to get where you are. It is about a client that performs so bad, that those players wont be able to enjoy exploring and questing and the vast landscape. They have to turn down the graphic settings so that the landscape loses a lot of its beauty and exploring will just make the next CTD come sooner. Even you, o so patient and correct mindset man, would draw a line somewhere if the client didnt like your computer. VG is a great game and the MAIN reason why it doesnt have more players, is because of the crappy client performance. This goes way beyond 'overlooking some things' or having patience.
That is true, if people need to turn everything down then of course they are not going to be able to enjoy the main thing that the world offers in its entirety.
My thought is that either everyone is experiencing the same level of performance issues and that some don't find it much of an issue where others are pulling their hair out becuase of them, or that we really are experiencing completely different things.
Perhaps a mix of both?
So I don't agree that in all cases it goes beyond "overlooking things" and in some cases it is about having patience. I've known players who go nuts over the smallest little things.
What I am saying is that it is possible that if one is patient, has an decent machine and likes what Vanguard has to offer then it could be a good game for them.
If one just can't play it or an ocassional "chug" sends them up the wall then obviously the game is not going to be for them.
For those people who are willing and again, with a mindset that expects less than WoW or LOTRO polish AND for whatever reason can run it then it will be ok.
I'm not one to ever try to convince someone to play a game as quite frankly I'm of the opinion that people should be grown up enough to make up their own minds and do what they want.
However, if some are looking for opinons and some first hand experience then I'm more than happy to offer mine. Knowing who they are and what they are about in light of what I said should be sufficient to guide them to their own decisions.
Like Skyrim? Need more content? Try my Skyrim mod "Godfred's Tomb."
I've played many MMOs. To me, Vanguard is the best pure MMO available. I've not been in love with an MMO since EQ1, Vanguard is the next best thing for me.
One could debate the pros and cons forever around gameplay, graphics, quests, performance lore, etc. etc. But in the end, you can't go wrong with trying it for free. Isle of Dawn will give you a limited view of the game with the level 10 cap, just being one zone amongst hundreds... but it also gives you a good run down of adventuring, crafting and diplomacy and how they interconnect if you are willing to complete all the quests, follow the storyline and be patient.
If you try the Isle and have performance issues, swing by the Newbie Yard and ask some questions. Any PCs newer than a couple years old should run this game very well. The only drawback to Isle of Dawn is that it can have 100+ players in one chunk and you will experience lower fps than on the mainland. You can't swing Smelly Cat by the tail without hitting another player.
I don't believe SOE's business model will ever include F2P. They seem to be content with gouging the player with a subscription on top of micro transactions. Take it as you will, but I despise this company and I take it no more seriously than Sims Online or Toon Town Online. Filled with a bunch of money grubbing, masochistic (game designing) developers and financiers.
What micro transactions? Dungeon runners has microtransactions type system. VG doesn't have a cash shop or microtransaction system. What they have is a safe web site where players can buy and sell stuff. SoE isn't selling items and they are not selling things that you can't get in game or doing anything that would encourage anyone to even look at this web site....
I don't believe SOE's business model will ever include F2P. They seem to be content with gouging the player with a subscription on top of micro transactions. Take it as you will, but I despise this company and I take it no more seriously than Sims Online or Toon Town Online. Filled with a bunch of money grubbing, masochistic (game designing) developers and financiers.
What micro transactions? Dungeon runners has microtransactions type system. VG doesn't have a cash shop or microtransaction system. What they have is a safe web site where players can buy and sell stuff. SoE isn't selling items and they are not selling things that you can't get in game or doing anything that would encourage anyone to even look at this web site....
You are right to point out that vanguard isn't doing microtransactions yet, but to say that soe isn't doing anything to encourage people to get involved with the real money transaction of items in vanguard isn't exactly being honest either. Considering it is soe that is putting in the system for player to player cash sale of items into the game, I'm sure they will put a bit of effort into getting people to use it. They do make a 10% cut of the sale price if I recall?
VSoH is unfortunatly not a game for people with the attention span of a gnat and expecting everything to be handed to them on a platter, oohh darn thats a good portion of the modern mmo community and pvp players, good thing they hate it. Means only good players are in the game, i do look forward to coming back even more!
Yay another crappy Vanguard advert. Will they ever stop coming?
The main selling point for the game is the fact that its landscapes look quite nice and also some of its monster models are well made but as I have just started playing Chronicles of Spellborn it all looks quite silly in comparison. Anyway how about trying to advertise the game by showing off the awesome player avatars? Go on OP give us a close up of some of those fine sexy models lol
But yes come to the land of Vanguad where "freedom" is at your fingertips. YOU can choose your destiny. YOU can go anywhere and do ANYTHING. Yes indeed you can wander anywhere over this pretty and yet lifeless landscape. You can run for hours on end marveling at the sky and the trees and the rocks......and the super-fast respawning mobs standing around waiting to be killed by you the paying customer. Come and visit the lively settlements populated with npc statues. Oh yes its all happening in Vanguard. See that mountain off in the distance? Well you can go there! See that patch of woodland? Well you can go there. You wont find anything there except more braindead cloned mobs or perhaps if you're lucky a quest giver.....oooooh ahhhhh. And then you can walk or fly to the next mountain off in the distance. You can do this for hours, weeks, months or years just travelling across the land and.....errmm.....marvelling at the sights. Did I mention you can go anywhere? At Vanguard the fun never stops
VSoH is unfortunatly not a game for people with the attention span of a gnat and expecting everything to be handed to them on a platter, oohh darn thats a good portion of the modern mmo community and pvp players, good thing they hate it. Means only good players are in the game, i do look forward to coming back even more!
People play computer games for entertainment. Vanguard just isnt entertaining to a lot of people. Many people just dont think its fun to play. If it makes you feel superior by looking down on the majority of the gaming community and deluding yourself into thinking they are all stupid for not playing Vanguard then go ahead. What ever works for you.
I don't believe SOE's business model will ever include F2P. They seem to be content with gouging the player with a subscription on top of micro transactions. Take it as you will, but I despise this company and I take it no more seriously than Sims Online or Toon Town Online. Filled with a bunch of money grubbing, masochistic (game designing) developers and financiers.
What micro transactions? Dungeon runners has microtransactions type system. VG doesn't have a cash shop or microtransaction system. What they have is a safe web site where players can buy and sell stuff. SoE isn't selling items and they are not selling things that you can't get in game or doing anything that would encourage anyone to even look at this web site....
Well Micro transactions are part of the plan for sure (I have no feeling one way or the other so don't read into that).
However, more to the point Smedley quite clearly put SOE plans out there at least a year ago. Current games will probably never be F2P but that is where they want to move.
Quite simply more recent statements about how many people are on their play-station based online services (Home and the Other one) is where they see much of their market. All their future games are supposed to be cross platform...
Perhaps I read to much into it but I think their business plan seems quite clear. I'm neutral on the point(s) just saying its my point of view. (aka they are moving towards what they believe is a larger market that will spend some amount on micro transactions... the end result being more income than a smaller P2P audience).
Vanguard has the most seamless, open and beatiful world in MMOs in my opinion. The endless vistas, deserts, storms gathering in the distance... if that was a PvP game with siegeing, taking over cities, player guilds ruling over lands, that'd be the best game in the universe. And the irony is it looks like a game that could pull it off. Unfortunately it's a PvE game that lets You feel really transported into a different world but You soon feel let down by repetitive gameplay and boredom. Not to mention lack of other players...
I totally agree with you. Vanguard has a really nice gameworld but its all just wasted on a lifeless PvE game thats just boring to play. You look around at all the pretty landscapes and just think "I wish I could do something".
Vanguard has the most seamless, open and beatiful world in MMOs in my opinion. The endless vistas, deserts, storms gathering in the distance... if that was a PvP game with siegeing, taking over cities, player guilds ruling over lands, that'd be the best game in the universe. And the irony is it looks like a game that could pull it off. Unfortunately it's a PvE game that lets You feel really transported into a different world but You soon feel let down by repetitive gameplay and boredom. Not to mention lack of other players...
I totally agree with you. Vanguard has a really nice gameworld but its all just wasted on a lifeless PvE game thats just boring to play. You look around at all the pretty landscapes and just think "I wish I could do something".
Lol the only thing In vanguard I liked was the market and the world. I honestly was anoyed by Monsters and the like geting in the way of my Tree cutting.
With the Merging of the markets a year or so ago and Now RMT Nothing is left for me in Vanguard. Im still In Eve, trying Lotro and Haveing a blast in SpellBorn.
Soe has atleast for me and Several Guild people I know Killed the game. at this point its little more than a Shell of what it once was. What was the point of the Hundreds of Trees I chopped Down for Boats Now? 10 Bucks and Im in. I spent a week gathering in my spare time all the mats for my little Caravel. Cut the trees, Gatherd the Weeds, Shopped for the Iron and Skins. and For what? a good old Soe stab to the face.. thx Soe.
Sure its playable but Whats the point if the only fun part is a wash?
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I would love to get back into Vanguard. However, at the current back-burner state of the game with no promise of expansion or major content upgrades (at least in a timely fashion) it's hard to justify spending hours into a game that may just dissapear or even worse... left on life support.
Neon you seem abit obsessed with a game that you are not into, like or respect. Vanguard is fun for alot of people and not fun for even more. Thats fine. There are other games out there. OP I am glad that you have found a place to call home for awhile. Glad you are liking the game. Hope you do well in your travels.
Well its not really an obsession is it. I just saw a post on the home page, clicked on it and typed a quick reply. It didnt take much effort or time so who cares? And yeah I'm also happy that the OP is enjoying his game......although I'm not completely convinced that he is actually a real player.......although he could just be a very enthusiastic one I guess. The post seems more like one of the standard Vanguard adverts which keep coming out every couple of months.
Vanguard shit the bed. The game is freaking dead. About 450 players spread over 4 different servers.
You wish. At peak times, the 2 US PvE servers consistently have well over 1000 players each. And the populations are slowly growing.
I have played, extensively, every single Western fantasy MMO ever released starting with DAoC (except for Horizons, Shadowbane, and AC2), and Vanguard is, hands down, the best, most challenging and fun PVE game I've played.
But if you're looking for easy-mode gameplay, or PvP, then no, Vanguard is not for you.
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Lucky you.
Too bad that 4 out of 5 other players with that what you call 'correct mindset' will get distracted because of the crappy performance. Those players really want to enjoy the game, but the client doesnt let them.
They messed up big time with the stability and performance of the client and even though it has improved drastically, it is still sub par. Ive never seen a game where performance scaling is so badly executed. From release to a year after release it only went from unplayable to playable for some.
Everyone I see enter Veskal's Exchange for example, is stalling at some point. It is just ridiculous for such a small outpost.
This game doesnt suck because it is a SOE game. It sucks because it lost its player base after the horible launch. SOE has actually made the game playable, just to late for it to ever recover.
Listen, when stating "correct mindset" that is what it is.
I love long movies. Not everyone loves them. I love atonal 12 tone music or even just atonal music. Dollars to donuts most people don't.
When saying correct mindset that is pointing more toward general personality types. It's not an effort to qualify someone as opposed to, perhaps, quantify.
And that's where I said "patience". I don't get a lot of hiccups and don't mind a glitch here and there.
Is is subpar? Well, when compared to games such as WoW and LOTRO, most assuredly yes. But if you are the type of person who can over look this then it just doesn't matter.
I am not saying that "yay, I can play Vanguard and you can't". I am saying that I am able to overlook some things, and because of this can enjoy the game for the unique things it offers. Some others might be willing to do this as well.
Otherwise people should save their money and stay away, they will only be frustrated.
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I think this is more the case.
The orginal devs messed up. Regardless of whether one loves or hates SOE (and I can easily understand why many would hate them), they stepped in and made it playable.
Will the game ever have the attention that other powerhouse games have? Probably not. It would require much more time and effort and a whole relaunch in order to do this.
I think Sony just keeps the game in its stable of games for the station pass for those who might want to play it.
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
Vanguard isn't popular not because of bugs but because the graphics suck, the character models suck and it is very generic and just not interesting. It has no WoW factor and they even put teleports in it ruining the only good feature it had which was having to travel seamlessly. The lore is poor, the animations are poor and so are all the effects and the quests are boring and it has crap PVP and crafting. Theres nothing interesting or good about it and the worst thing has to be the character models..... man they are fucking retarded and I got excited for the new models but they looked just as shit as the old ones.
Its recovered. If it wasn't making money they wouldnt run the servers.
What this game needs is people playing. It also needs Sigil supporters to move on. one of the great things about software is it can be updated. Yes VG had a terrible launch but if you don't play the game for that reason then we don't want to you anyway.
Look at the game for what it is now which is the best game on the market imho.
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Listen, when stating "correct mindset" that is what it is.
I love long movies. Not everyone loves them. I love atonal 12 tone music or even just atonal music. Dollars to donuts most people don't.
When saying correct mindset that is pointing more toward general personality types. It's not an effort to qualify someone as opposed to, perhaps, quantify.
And that's where I said "patience". I don't get a lot of hiccups and don't mind a glitch here and there.
Is is subpar? Well, when compared to games such as WoW and LOTRO, most assuredly yes. But if you are the type of person who can over look this then it just doesn't matter.
I am not saying that "yay, I can play Vanguard and you can't". I am saying that I am able to overlook some things, and because of this can enjoy the game for the unique things it offers. Some others might be willing to do this as well.
Otherwise people should save their money and stay away, they will only be frustrated.
I never disagreed about the way you used 'correct mindset'. I just pointed out that the reason why many players wont continue playing VG has nothing to do with that, but with the poor performance. Also nothing with patience, if they have the same mindset as you. Its just that those players are not able to get where you are. It is about a client that performs so bad, that those players wont be able to enjoy exploring and questing and the vast landscape.
They have to turn down the graphic settings so that the landscape loses a lot of its beauty and exploring will just make the next CTD come sooner. Even you, o so patient and correct mindset man, would draw a line somewhere if the client didnt like your computer.
VG is a great game and the MAIN reason why it doesnt have more players, is because of the crappy client performance. This goes way beyond 'overlooking some things' or having patience.
That is true, if people need to turn everything down then of course they are not going to be able to enjoy the main thing that the world offers in its entirety.
My thought is that either everyone is experiencing the same level of performance issues and that some don't find it much of an issue where others are pulling their hair out becuase of them, or that we really are experiencing completely different things.
Perhaps a mix of both?
So I don't agree that in all cases it goes beyond "overlooking things" and in some cases it is about having patience. I've known players who go nuts over the smallest little things.
What I am saying is that it is possible that if one is patient, has an decent machine and likes what Vanguard has to offer then it could be a good game for them.
If one just can't play it or an ocassional "chug" sends them up the wall then obviously the game is not going to be for them.
For those people who are willing and again, with a mindset that expects less than WoW or LOTRO polish AND for whatever reason can run it then it will be ok.
I'm not one to ever try to convince someone to play a game as quite frankly I'm of the opinion that people should be grown up enough to make up their own minds and do what they want.
However, if some are looking for opinons and some first hand experience then I'm more than happy to offer mine. Knowing who they are and what they are about in light of what I said should be sufficient to guide them to their own decisions.
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
I've played many MMOs. To me, Vanguard is the best pure MMO available. I've not been in love with an MMO since EQ1, Vanguard is the next best thing for me.
One could debate the pros and cons forever around gameplay, graphics, quests, performance lore, etc. etc. But in the end, you can't go wrong with trying it for free. Isle of Dawn will give you a limited view of the game with the level 10 cap, just being one zone amongst hundreds... but it also gives you a good run down of adventuring, crafting and diplomacy and how they interconnect if you are willing to complete all the quests, follow the storyline and be patient.
If you try the Isle and have performance issues, swing by the Newbie Yard and ask some questions. Any PCs newer than a couple years old should run this game very well. The only drawback to Isle of Dawn is that it can have 100+ players in one chunk and you will experience lower fps than on the mainland. You can't swing Smelly Cat by the tail without hitting another player.
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What micro transactions? Dungeon runners has microtransactions type system. VG doesn't have a cash shop or microtransaction system. What they have is a safe web site where players can buy and sell stuff. SoE isn't selling items and they are not selling things that you can't get in game or doing anything that would encourage anyone to even look at this web site....
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What micro transactions? Dungeon runners has microtransactions type system. VG doesn't have a cash shop or microtransaction system. What they have is a safe web site where players can buy and sell stuff. SoE isn't selling items and they are not selling things that you can't get in game or doing anything that would encourage anyone to even look at this web site....
You are right to point out that vanguard isn't doing microtransactions yet, but to say that soe isn't doing anything to encourage people to get involved with the real money transaction of items in vanguard isn't exactly being honest either. Considering it is soe that is putting in the system for player to player cash sale of items into the game, I'm sure they will put a bit of effort into getting people to use it. They do make a 10% cut of the sale price if I recall?
sorry, but I am not getting shamwow'd again.....
no if it's F2P, then I would take a peek...well not realy
VSoH is unfortunatly not a game for people with the attention span of a gnat and expecting everything to be handed to them on a platter, oohh darn thats a good portion of the modern mmo community and pvp players, good thing they hate it. Means only good players are in the game, i do look forward to coming back even more!
Yay another crappy Vanguard advert. Will they ever stop coming?
The main selling point for the game is the fact that its landscapes look quite nice and also some of its monster models are well made but as I have just started playing Chronicles of Spellborn it all looks quite silly in comparison. Anyway how about trying to advertise the game by showing off the awesome player avatars? Go on OP give us a close up of some of those fine sexy models lol
But yes come to the land of Vanguad where "freedom" is at your fingertips. YOU can choose your destiny. YOU can go anywhere and do ANYTHING. Yes indeed you can wander anywhere over this pretty and yet lifeless landscape. You can run for hours on end marveling at the sky and the trees and the rocks......and the super-fast respawning mobs standing around waiting to be killed by you the paying customer. Come and visit the lively settlements populated with npc statues. Oh yes its all happening in Vanguard. See that mountain off in the distance? Well you can go there! See that patch of woodland? Well you can go there. You wont find anything there except more braindead cloned mobs or perhaps if you're lucky a quest giver.....oooooh ahhhhh. And then you can walk or fly to the next mountain off in the distance. You can do this for hours, weeks, months or years just travelling across the land and.....errmm.....marvelling at the sights. Did I mention you can go anywhere? At Vanguard the fun never stops
People play computer games for entertainment. Vanguard just isnt entertaining to a lot of people. Many people just dont think its fun to play. If it makes you feel superior by looking down on the majority of the gaming community and deluding yourself into thinking they are all stupid for not playing Vanguard then go ahead. What ever works for you.
What micro transactions? Dungeon runners has microtransactions type system. VG doesn't have a cash shop or microtransaction system. What they have is a safe web site where players can buy and sell stuff. SoE isn't selling items and they are not selling things that you can't get in game or doing anything that would encourage anyone to even look at this web site....
Well Micro transactions are part of the plan for sure (I have no feeling one way or the other so don't read into that).
However, more to the point Smedley quite clearly put SOE plans out there at least a year ago. Current games will probably never be F2P but that is where they want to move.
Quite simply more recent statements about how many people are on their play-station based online services (Home and the Other one) is where they see much of their market. All their future games are supposed to be cross platform...
Perhaps I read to much into it but I think their business plan seems quite clear. I'm neutral on the point(s) just saying its my point of view. (aka they are moving towards what they believe is a larger market that will spend some amount on micro transactions... the end result being more income than a smaller P2P audience).
I totally agree with you. Vanguard has a really nice gameworld but its all just wasted on a lifeless PvE game thats just boring to play. You look around at all the pretty landscapes and just think "I wish I could do something".
I totally agree with you. Vanguard has a really nice gameworld but its all just wasted on a lifeless PvE game thats just boring to play. You look around at all the pretty landscapes and just think "I wish I could do something".
Lol the only thing In vanguard I liked was the market and the world. I honestly was anoyed by Monsters and the like geting in the way of my Tree cutting.
With the Merging of the markets a year or so ago and Now RMT Nothing is left for me in Vanguard. Im still In Eve, trying Lotro and Haveing a blast in SpellBorn.
Soe has atleast for me and Several Guild people I know Killed the game. at this point its little more than a Shell of what it once was. What was the point of the Hundreds of Trees I chopped Down for Boats Now? 10 Bucks and Im in. I spent a week gathering in my spare time all the mats for my little Caravel. Cut the trees, Gatherd the Weeds, Shopped for the Iron and Skins. and For what? a good old Soe stab to the face.. thx Soe.
Sure its playable but Whats the point if the only fun part is a wash?
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I would love to get back into Vanguard. However, at the current back-burner state of the game with no promise of expansion or major content upgrades (at least in a timely fashion) it's hard to justify spending hours into a game that may just dissapear or even worse... left on life support.
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Well its not really an obsession is it. I just saw a post on the home page, clicked on it and typed a quick reply. It didnt take much effort or time so who cares? And yeah I'm also happy that the OP is enjoying his game......although I'm not completely convinced that he is actually a real player.......although he could just be a very enthusiastic one I guess. The post seems more like one of the standard Vanguard adverts which keep coming out every couple of months.
Vanguard shit the bed. The game is freaking dead. About 450 players spread over 4 different servers.
You wish. At peak times, the 2 US PvE servers consistently have well over 1000 players each. And the populations are slowly growing.
I have played, extensively, every single Western fantasy MMO ever released starting with DAoC (except for Horizons, Shadowbane, and AC2), and Vanguard is, hands down, the best, most challenging and fun PVE game I've played.
But if you're looking for easy-mode gameplay, or PvP, then no, Vanguard is not for you.