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MMO's with a good community. Any left?
Clobster
Member Posts: 94
I've been searching for a good MMO for awhile now. All the good MMO's I onced love don't do it for me now (EQ is a joke with all the expansions, and DAOC has no one left). What I miss the most about EQ and DAOC was the awesome community. The games forced you to group with other people and work as a team. The problem nowadays is MMO's don't force you to group together. Sure, you need a group to do certain instances or raid whatever stupid dragon, but that's not what I care about. I miss the days where people would group for HOURS together, trying to reach an objective or grind. Now, people finish their quest and then leave you since you're of no use anymore. Thanks WoW. Thanks WAR. You've ruined the idea of a good community.
Are there are games out there that aren't like this? I miss being specialized in my class so groups sought out specific classes to make a good group, instead of lumping five paladins and a priest together and calling it good. What a joke. I miss socializing with my group mates as we smash faces in. I miss vast worlds with unique areas, areas that I remember forever for how cool they were, worlds where I could never possibly explore all of it, not some linear BS.
Is there a game out there that actually forces the community that EQ and DAOC once had? Or are we all supposed to get to level 500 by doing pointless, mindless quests over and over? I could blanket the earth with how many hides, pelts, and skins I've collected to "further the efforts of our glorious empire!"
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I guess there are several good communities within MMORPG's, you just need to find the right MMO.
The last games where I have seen a good community have been Shaiya, a free to play MMO and of course in Lord of the Rings Online.
In Lotro for example I have never been bothered by anyone, everyone is friendly and helps each other out if needed.
People are roleplaying if that's the thing you want, people do a lot of interesting PvP as either Monster or one of the "Free people" or they just have fun raiding one of the really nice instances within the PVE part of the game.
To find a good community is really easy, same with people in real-life, you just don't always find the enviorment that suits you, i.e. the MMORPG.
Cheers,
Magefist
I'm not looking for a good guild to play around with in a game. I'm looking for a game that inherently has a good community like DAOC or EQ. In EQ, I would play with completely random people for hours, having a great time and socializing while grinding. The community is what made the grind seem less crappy.
In DAOC, if you were a new guy, random people would practically throw gold at you and ask if you wanted to join their guild. When you were doing okay and you found a newbie, you'd remember those times and give the newbie gold as well. DAOC had a strong "pay it forward" philosophy like no other game. Every game will have a decent community within through some guild, but I'm looking for ones like this where the community was just great to be in all together.
EQ was a place where you made friends quickly, because depending on your class, you could be in high demand. Everyone liked having a cleric friend because they were in short supply. So were monks, and both were key components to a group. Clerics were the only viable healers, and monks were hands down the best pullers if the player knew how to play their class (and very few did, making them even more valuable).
I personally don't think there will ever be another mmo as good as EQ.
Currently Playing: Toying around with AoC and bored with Darkfall
Thinking of Playing: Fallen Earth or Darkfall after this months update.
Have Played: EQ1, EQ2, WoW, WAR, Vanguard, EvE, Requiem, PW, Lotro, Lineage2, AoC, SWG...
none all infected by the seed.
The only hope is if classic EQ servers were released. However, Sony has a problem, and that problem is the love of money. Classic servers means no expansions. If there's no expansions to be used, then no one buys them. No one buying expansions, means less money. Less money means fewer strippers, fine cigars and yachts for Sony.
Umm, have you played FFXI...that is exactly what you're looking for and the only remaining MMO that still captures the real strength of what an MMO is about:
Group Enforced ~ Literally camp in one or more location for hours on end grinding mobs or for an objective!
Specialized Job System with Sub-Job Support ~ 20 different classes all of which you can play/switch too at anytime on the same char. with tons of specialization and job-specific quests and gear.
Social Social Social ~ Hardly will you ever see mass spam or absurd 'noob' chat openly, it always game related, heck you can literally go for days out in the field and never see a msg pop up in the zone sometimes. Almost all social chat is reserved within Linkshells{guilds} and in a Party or /Tells where it belongs.
Over 200 zones ~ After the 4th expansion now there are just tons and tons of zones old/new/past/present to explore and many have such amazing visuals and background music you'll find yourself just hanging out in them to look around or listen to the music.
Not Quest-Driven XP ~ Heck you don't get XP period from 98% of all quests, you only get it from physically going out and bashing in the faces of the mobs either solo for a time, but mostly together with friends in a Party!
Vendor Trash ~ Not a chance 100% of everything that drops in the game has a use be it quest/mission related crafting, consumables, etc....if you don't need it, post it on the AH as someone else does!
Shared Gear ~ A majority of the common/uncommon and even some of the top-dollar gear does not bind to your character and can be used again not only on your same char as a diff job but also sold over and over again to other players!
2-3 RL Years of Content ~ Really no joke, if you started today not only do you have 1500 levels of jobs to earn, and more content throughout the entire adventure than the averge MMO, but also an end-game with more varying and excting things to do that every AAA MMO combined...
Anyway if you havn't yet played this I highly suggest you do, and don't worry about population as FFXI has held a very strong community of over 500k players for nearly 7 years now. Most of the newer MMOs of late...well you know their story already and they are just barely scrapping by....heh
I'll look into it. No harm in trying it out.
There is a free 14-day trial as well!
Games with good community, in my experience are Lotro, EQ2 , and DDO.
atlantica has a good community. there are quest that will require you to help other players and. some are needed to have a stamina. sharing info, the part system the quest. eventually you will have someone to watch your back and help each other
I highly suggest to the OP, even if hes against it, to try and get into darkfall where your community means more then simply a friend to talk to on random occasions but rather life and death, territory, and resource management. Yep Darkfall is HARDCOREEEEEE OMG!!!!!!!
But if you are looking at other mmorpgs, look at eve. You can join a corp, build friends and relationships, coordinate attacks against other people, and so on.
World of Warcraft is also is another good alternative where there is literallty a TON of people playing. If you look hard enough you will find the people that suit your style. For example, I am currently in a raiding guild with people that have full time jobs and hobbies outside of wow, yet manage to raid 3 times a week. If you dont show up during raid time, well, no biggie, life happens. Yet, I still get loot, and I still progress. Meanwhile, I still go to class everyday and no drama spews from it.
SWG back in 2003 before SOE pissed everyone off was the only mmorpg I ever played where everyone was friendly and everyone knew everyone. You'd all have to meet in towns and stuff and because you needed other players to play the game as each profession needed other profession to work and that was so kool cause I made so many friends. I have yet to play an mmorpg where the community was as nice and as tight as that.
Obviously you have to ignore the SWG forums cause they were full of people moaning that the game was too hard so SOE kept dumbing it down and ruining it like removing TEF.
If you want a good community, the key is to find a game that bores the "bad" people so they quit. It really helps if the game isn't based around killing and looting monsters, as the people who make a community bad tend to like that sort of game.
That rules out a lot of games, doesn't it? I guess that leaves A Tale in the Desert as the alternative.
LOL how can anyone take your post serious when you suggest WoW and Darkfall as good communities???..... Throw in Runescape and you have the 3 worst communities bar none.
LOL how can anyone take your post serious when you suggest WoW and Darkfall as good communities???..... Throw in Runescape and you have the 3 worst communities bar none.
I think he was refering to communities WITHIN communities. In that case, WOW has tons of good guilds to join. I played in 3 of them, all working adults, most with families and kids. If you deny that, YOU CAN'T BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY or have bad comprehension skills because ALL you saw was WOW and didn't bother reading what he wrote. WOW isn't just a bunch of kids you know. There are more mature adults playing WOW than most MMOs combined. Its sheer numbers. You just have to find them and mature people will naturally find one another.
The worst communities are those where PvP is at the core. Always has been. Always will be. But it depends on what you find good. Some people enjoy communities where everyone is out to backstab everyone else hidden behind a "nice" or "mature" mask;)
I have been completely blown away by the subscriber community in The Chronicles of Spellborn. Its as if just being the type of person who enjoys TCoS is some kind of personality test for being a laid back mature and thoughtful person.
LOTRO has an amazing community all around, I've been bothered only a few times and gold spammers don't last long... until they make a new account, which is the only annoying thing.
EVE's community sucks, although I play with a great group of guys personally. WoW's community is horrible too, although, again, there's some good guys to play with.
DDO has a great community too, although I never did play long.
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Two of the best communities I've been a part of is CoH/V and LotRO. Both have nice and helpful communities. Both have grouping and single play. Both have free trials.
Amazingly, Horizons - I mean Istaria - is still around. The game has combat, but crafting is really the focus.
Really everyone! The OP specifically asked for a game that has a community like EQ and DAoC, isn't another solo-crap fest or when you do group its not anything goes to win, then everyone breaks off after 1 or 2 quests. Also asked that he wanted a social community, that will actually slow down a short time and get to know each other, not a leet speak, noob rage focused on pointless quests, and what suggestions does he get:
Nor did anyone take the time to describe the features of the MMO he'd enjoy most; that you suggested. Did any of you bother to think about your suggestions or were even around during the early days of MMOs of which the OP longs for again! Even these MMO forums mirror the typical in-game MMO community...always in a rush to say something before the other person and not think about your answer first and make it really matter and be important....heh
FFXI had an outstanding community but that was serveral years ago. I'm not sure how it is now. I would say Lotro would be the best out of the few decent mmos left on the market today. WOW by far is the worst ever.
Already mentioned FFXI on page one in great detail, which is exactly what the OP is looking for...
Can you play pen and paper RPGs where you are? You won't find better community and grouping content. I don't think there are any other MMOs that offer what you want.
I somewhat disagree with FFXI as being a great community. It seems that way, but that's only because you're required to be partied for some quests and such. I remember playing and having to wait sometimes hours for people to come online so I could finish a quest that takes like 30 minutes. It was rather lame imo.
Well with the new Level Sync added last fall, finding a group is no longer an issue, and FFXI isn't quest driven anyway. You don't do them for XP, so they're more a casual side offering to do whenever, but a priority later on if you want larger bag/mog house space, more travel options or access to certain events and spell scrolls!
FFXI is group enforced and I'm glad even with the recent solo additions and extra XP its still group required for the majority of the adventure.