In CS:S they came 1 step closer to full loot since you drop grenade also.But really being naked and looting nothing is part of full loot.
Well full-loot would be the ability to take that dinky starter sword. So if you want to argue semantics, it really isn't full-loot as the prophets have proclaimed. I think it should cost the player something to try and run around naked killing.
That would be retarded game design. You have to give player something to fight with. Even in EVE Online you always get a starter ship. This is game design 101
edit- a better solution 'if they wanted to punish this' is take a tip from the pros (eve online) whereas you always have something major on the line. For instance, losing a pod in EVE will cost ya ISK (aka gold) and possible loss of skill points.
I think it is more retarded to assume that because you lose a starter sword you have no weapons. Fists. Ever heard of them? Common sense 101, no knife? Punch them.
If you can't wrap your head around that, google it, that might help.
You obviously dont have the game, you don't fight with your fists. That's still a very, very BAD idea. You have to give players a default weapon. Linkrealms does it. EVE Online does it. And so does Darkfall
This is nothing new for those of us that know how Loot MMOs handle it
edit- and btw how is that logic? You come at me with a sword / armor / greaves /horseback and I attack you with a fist. I would get my hands sliced clean off and get run over by your horse. Ever seen a history book that gave a recounting of battles where primitives with their fists fought knights with Swords? Screw that, I';m not fighting an armored soldier with my fists like I'm Jet Li
In CS:S they came 1 step closer to full loot since you drop grenade also.But really being naked and looting nothing is part of full loot.
Well full-loot would be the ability to take that dinky starter sword. So if you want to argue semantics, it really isn't full-loot as the prophets have proclaimed. I think it should cost the player something to try and run around naked killing.
That would be retarded game design. You have to give player something to fight with. Even in EVE Online you always get a starter ship. This is game design 101
edit- a better solution 'if they wanted to punish this' is take a tip from the pros (eve online) whereas you always have something major on the line. For instance, losing a pod in EVE will cost ya ISK (aka gold) and possible loss of skill points.
I think it is more retarded to assume that because you lose a starter sword you have no weapons. Fists. Ever heard of them? Common sense 101, no knife? Punch them.
If you can't wrap your head around that, google it, that might help.
You obviously dont have the game, you don't fight with your fists. That's still a very, very BAD idea. You have to give players a default weapon. Linkrealms does it. EVE Online does it. And so does Darkfall
This is nothing new for those of us that know how Loot MMOs handle it
edit- and btw how is that logic? You come at me with a sword / armor / greaves /horseback and I attack you with a fist. I would get my hands sliced clean off and get run over by your horse. Ever seen a history book that gave a recounting of battles where primitives with their fists fought knights with Swords? Screw that, I';m not fighting an armored soldier with my fists like I'm Jet Li
You cant explain to an idiot why theyre stupid. If they understood they wouldnt be an idiot.
In CS:S they came 1 step closer to full loot since you drop grenade also.But really being naked and looting nothing is part of full loot.
Well full-loot would be the ability to take that dinky starter sword. So if you want to argue semantics, it really isn't full-loot as the prophets have proclaimed. I think it should cost the player something to try and run around naked killing.
That would be retarded game design. You have to give player something to fight with. Even in EVE Online you always get a starter ship. This is game design 101
edit- a better solution 'if they wanted to punish this' is take a tip from the pros (eve online) whereas you always have something major on the line. For instance, losing a pod in EVE will cost ya ISK (aka gold) and possible loss of skill points.
I think it is more retarded to assume that because you lose a starter sword you have no weapons. Fists. Ever heard of them? Common sense 101, no knife? Punch them.
If you can't wrap your head around that, google it, that might help.
You obviously dont have the game, you don't fight with your fists. That's still a very, very BAD idea. You have to give players a default weapon. Linkrealms does it. EVE Online does it. And so does Darkfall
This is nothing new for those of us that know how Loot MMOs handle it
edit- and btw how is that logic? You come at me with a sword / armor / greaves /horseback and I attack you with a fist. I would get my hands sliced clean off and get run over by your horse. Ever seen a history book that gave a recounting of battles where primitives with their fists fought knights with Swords? Screw that, I';m not fighting an armored soldier with my fists like I'm Jet Li
You cant explain to an idiot why theyre stupid. If they understood they wouldnt be an idiot.
Oh oh, the DF fanbot trolls have begun to get angry and insulting. Poor babies.
No wonder Df failed, no wonder it went the way of TR, AA, PoTBS and AoC. Since the DF ship is sinking, I hope you guys are hancuffed to the rail.
When we lost our city to Hyperion zerg I got back to Agon and opened my hunt on hyperions. Well for the first hunt day I earned more than 3000g (a couple of full banded, full scale, reagents, arrows, mounts etc). Then I left the clan but it was the different story...
You obviously dont have the game, you don't fight with your fists. That's still a very, very BAD idea. You have to give players a default weapon. Linkrealms does it. EVE Online does it. And so does Darkfall
This is nothing new for those of us that know how Loot MMOs handle it
edit- and btw how is that logic? You come at me with a sword / armor / greaves /horseback and I attack you with a fist. I would get my hands sliced clean off and get run over by your horse. Ever seen a history book that gave a recounting of battles where primitives with their fists fought knights with Swords? Screw that, I';m not fighting an armored soldier with my fists like I'm Jet Li
No, I do not have the game. I don't believe I have ever claimed I did. I'm merely pointing out the fact that you can give players weapons that cannot be looted without having a magically bound sword.
I also don't think I said you should be effective with your fists versus a sword, you like to make things up huh? It would be a way to stop people from running around naked and fighting as discussed earlier in the thread.
Logic, logic, logic. Everyone on this site is a logician. Drop the Star Trek boxed set Spock and get real. If you are so deep-seated in your "logic" you shouldn't have to keep reminding everyone how you are being "logical".
I remember why I don't try and have a discussion on this section. My fault for trying.
You obviously dont have the game, you don't fight with your fists. That's still a very, very BAD idea. You have to give players a default weapon. Linkrealms does it. EVE Online does it. And so does Darkfall
This is nothing new for those of us that know how Loot MMOs handle it
edit- and btw how is that logic? You come at me with a sword / armor / greaves /horseback and I attack you with a fist. I would get my hands sliced clean off and get run over by your horse. Ever seen a history book that gave a recounting of battles where primitives with their fists fought knights with Swords? Screw that, I';m not fighting an armored soldier with my fists like I'm Jet Li
No, I do not have the game. I don't believe I have ever claimed I did. I'm merely pointing out the fact that you can give players weapons that cannot be looted without having a magically bound sword.
I also don't think I said you should be effective with your fists versus a sword, you like to make things up huh? It would be a way to stop people from running around naked and fighting as discussed earlier in the thread.
Logic, logic, logic. Everyone on this site is a logician. Drop the Star Trek boxed set Spock and get real. If you are so deep-seated in your "logic" you shouldn't have to keep reminding everyone how you are being "logical".
I remember why I don't try and have a discussion on this section. My fault for trying.
Yep.. everyone is a genius on this site who knows exactly how the world works. Afterall, no man with no weapon has ever bested a man with a weapon. And all video games are ENTIRELY based on the real world, hell, yesterday I was shooting out blue balls of magic.. It was awesome. I had to PWN some newb at stables before he looted my tomb.. because that makes LOGICAL sense.. doesn't it?
LOL thats just to funny....... People complain about not having a hardcore FFAPVP Full Loot game and then when they get one they are to scared to put gear on so they can't get ganked..... lol I just can't help myself I have to laugh at that.
It's because gear doesn't make you any better in darkfall... You know what other game gear doesn't make you better?
Counter-Strike.
... I'm pretty sure you actually buy gear in counterstrike, and I'm pretty sure it's necessary.
LOL thats just to funny....... People complain about not having a hardcore FFAPVP Full Loot game and then when they get one they are to scared to put gear on so they can't get ganked..... lol I just can't help myself I have to laugh at that.
It's because gear doesn't make you any better in darkfall... You know what other game gear doesn't make you better?
Counter-Strike.
... I'm pretty sure you actually buy gear in counterstrike, and I'm pretty sure it's necessary.
This is true I used to play CS when it first came out on HL
LOL thats just to funny....... People complain about not having a hardcore FFAPVP Full Loot game and then when they get one they are to scared to put gear on so they can't get ganked..... lol I just can't help myself I have to laugh at that.
It's because gear doesn't make you any better in darkfall... You know what other game gear doesn't make you better?
Counter-Strike.
... I'm pretty sure you actually buy gear in counterstrike, and I'm pretty sure it's necessary.
The point is that a guy who's a really good shot with a Deagle will still kill someone who's not a good shot with AWP.. Gear doesn't make the player, it helps them.
LOL thats just to funny....... People complain about not having a hardcore FFAPVP Full Loot game and then when they get one they are to scared to put gear on so they can't get ganked..... lol I just can't help myself I have to laugh at that.
It's because gear doesn't make you any better in darkfall... You know what other game gear doesn't make you better?
Counter-Strike.
... I'm pretty sure you actually buy gear in counterstrike, and I'm pretty sure it's necessary.
The point is that a guy who's a really good shot with a Deagle will still kill someone who's not a good shot with AWP.. Gear doesn't make the player, it helps them.
If all your fiding is a newbie weapon, you need to leave the starting zones. If anything PKing is a great way to get huge amounts of harvesting materials, without the harvesting.
I can't help but come back to the Darkfall fourms out of amusement. This game sure sounds like an epic disaster. (No fault of the players mind you..) I do feel bad, I hope for any mmo to be successfull, but yeah this is a big failure from everything I read. Even the majority of fans have told me not to buy it right now because it's not very good. @_@ ;
You obviously dont have the game, you don't fight with your fists. That's still a very, very BAD idea. You have to give players a default weapon. Linkrealms does it. EVE Online does it. And so does Darkfall
This is nothing new for those of us that know how Loot MMOs handle it
edit- and btw how is that logic? You come at me with a sword / armor / greaves /horseback and I attack you with a fist. I would get my hands sliced clean off and get run over by your horse. Ever seen a history book that gave a recounting of battles where primitives with their fists fought knights with Swords? Screw that, I';m not fighting an armored soldier with my fists like I'm Jet Li
True but a person wearing a full plate in reality would have to totaly ganked by 10+ persons or slowly beaten down by another full plate user.
The difference in armor are a lot bigger IRL than in an game anyways. A guy in full plate would kill a guy unarmed if the guy had no armour but a sword.
Anyways, my solution to the problem would be giving a buff for anyone wearing clothes or armour, even junk is some loot and with a buff it would be even harder to be naked. Besides it is cold wearing loincloth.
Characters near thier bindstone usually dont have loot on them. I just ignore them if they attack me, Its not woth the time. The skill system works fine. Its up to the player in the end anyway. And its the same for everyone. I have still not seen any cheaters or hackers. Hearing about it all the time here, have made me paranoid. I have Fraps ready if i see anything.
Its not a question whether its working or not, but how different is it from having levels?
Even if every single skill point would matter, it is still not different enough from levels - instead of having tiny advantages every 30 minutes, you get one big advantage every 10 hours. 1 apple in 1 minute or 10 apples in 10 - not much difference.
But, seems that DF doesn't even have that system. Small skill increase does not matter. So it is like leveling up because you get additional benefits after 25 skills. Just like leveling up. That particular game aspect has been a major grindstone with proDF and conDF. ProDF claim its not level based, so it is supposedly a "better" system then level-based games. ConDF claim it doesn't matter because the benefit comes in bulk skill-ups, not with each individual skill up. I tend to agree with conDF on this issue.
I'm just curious. I quit the game, tried to sell it on ebay (unsuccessfully) and now I'm just going to wait to see what happens in patches. I'm going to go over my list of things that disappointed me. 1. Nobody has loot !!!! The biggest thing I was looking for in Darkfall was full-loot pvp. Yet well over half of the people who are playing are naked with their newbie weapon (no drop). You like the adreneline rush of besting that PK who finds you while mining?.. there is no rush... you will beat him 9 times out of 10, but who cares since he isn't risking anything (he is naked). There is no risk-vs-reward in pvp 2. Skill system / macroing/ levels ... Darkfall was supposed to have a skill system like UO. The problem is that the individual skill points do not matter at all, it's all about the 25th point. It's really no different than a game like WOW where you watch the '25' bubbles fill in at the bottom of your screen, then when you fill them all you get a new ability. Their is no linear progression with skill points... it's just a mis-named experience bar. 3. Exploits ... the game is just way too bugged, and players are taking huge advantage of it. Really stupid stuff like the ease of trapping high level mobs behind terrain and killing them in safety. It make the whole economy pointless. 4. Hacks ... again, same type of thing. There are very basic hacks that enable you to bypass a lot of the basic design features of the game. Auto-loot anyone? Is there anyone playing the game who actually drags items off of a corpse anymore? To answer my topic question... my answer is about 25%.
noob move away from starter areas , try copperdale for 1 example constant attack by alfars , orc , u cannot farm npc there skin naked ,
how about joining a guild owning a hamlet , taking active aprticipation in sieges , d u think there are naked people playing in sieges
To the people that seem to think DF is a sinking ship: You need to play the game instead of believing everything you read on MMORPG.com forums. To the OP: Here's a little tip - Move away from the starting areas.
Our right lets dish out a lot of money to try a game that majority of people think suck. That makes sense.
Or does it make more sense to read different reviews on different websites and make an educated judgement, especially when there is no free trial available. Um yeah.
To the people that seem to think DF is a sinking ship: You need to play the game instead of believing everything you read on MMORPG.com forums. To the OP: Here's a little tip - Move away from the starting areas.
Our right lets dish out a lot of money to try a game that majority of people think suck. That makes sense.
Or does it make more sense to read different reviews on different websites and make an educated judgement, especially when there is no free trial available. Um yeah.
Everything you read or hear from MMORPG.com,and any other websites, blogs, forums, reviews, youtube videos, your best friends, work colleagues and guild members, people that are currently playing or have played, beta testers and leakers, even the official forums are wrong, don't believe their lies, YOU NEED to purchase this game and play it yourself to see the truth.
Darkfall is not like other games, you simply cant understand or appreciate why its the best game ever until you manage to finally buy it and try it for yourself, I cant explain or demonstrate it to you, you just have to buy it and play it yourself to find out, as long as your not a troll hater after you have you will agree with me 100%, until then your opinion is irrelevant.
I am not Tasos nor am I currently employed by him or Aventurine.
To the people that seem to think DF is a sinking ship: You need to play the game instead of believing everything you read on MMORPG.com forums. To the OP: Here's a little tip - Move away from the starting areas.
Our right lets dish out a lot of money to try a game that majority of people think suck. That makes sense.
Or does it make more sense to read different reviews on different websites and make an educated judgement, especially when there is no free trial available. Um yeah.
Everything you read or hear from MMORPG.com,and any other websites, blogs, forums, reviews, youtube videos, your best friends, work colleagues and guild members, people that are currently playing or have played, beta testers and leakers, even the official forums are wrong, don't believe their lies, YOU NEED to purchase this game and play it yourself to see the truth.
Darkfall is not like other games, you simply cant understand or appreciate why its the best game ever until you manage to finally buy it and try it for yourself, I cant explain or demonstrate it to you, you just have to buy it and play it yourself to find out, as long as your not a troll hater after you have you will agree with me 100%, until then your opinion is irrelevant.
I am not Tasos nor am I currently employed by him or Aventurine.
I actually aimed that post at people that seem to show enough interest in the game to hang around these forums. Obviously if you've made your mind up based on a few random reviews then don't bother with the game. If you're lurking these forums and believe everything you read here, I'm suggesting you make your own mind up as there are alot of people in-game enjoying it thoroughly. If you're not willing to try the game with an open mind, I see little reason for you being here.
To the second reply (Polarization), I understand your post displays dazzling wit and satire but some of your post actually rings true. It's difficult to explain in words why Darkfall is fun because the excitement of PvP encounters, looting stories and just random shenanigans is very difficult to translate into text on a forum that is notorious for nitpicking every post complimentary of the game. This, of course, is just my experience. I'm sure theres many that have tried the game and despise it. I personally prefer it to anything out there at the moment thanks to moments in-game that can't be experienced in the majority of MMO's.
To the people that seem to think DF is a sinking ship: You need to play the game instead of believing everything you read on MMORPG.com forums. To the OP: Here's a little tip - Move away from the starting areas.
Our right lets dish out a lot of money to try a game that majority of people think suck. That makes sense.
Or does it make more sense to read different reviews on different websites and make an educated judgement, especially when there is no free trial available. Um yeah.
Everything you read or hear from MMORPG.com,and any other websites, blogs, forums, reviews, youtube videos, your best friends, work colleagues and guild members, people that are currently playing or have played, beta testers and leakers, even the official forums are wrong, don't believe their lies, YOU NEED to purchase this game and play it yourself to see the truth.
Darkfall is not like other games, you simply cant understand or appreciate why its the best game ever until you manage to finally buy it and try it for yourself, I cant explain or demonstrate it to you, you just have to buy it and play it yourself to find out, as long as your not a troll hater after you have you will agree with me 100%, until then your opinion is irrelevant.
I am not Tasos nor am I currently employed by him or Aventurine.
I actually aimed that post at people that seem to show enough interest in the game to hang around these forums. Obviously if you've made your mind up based on a few random reviews then don't bother with the game. If you're lurking these forums and believe everything you read here, I'm suggesting you make your own mind up as there are alot of people in-game enjoying it thoroughly. If you're not willing to try the game with an open mind, I see little reason for you being here.
To the second reply (Polarization), I understand your post displays dazzling wit and satire but some of your post actually rings true. It's difficult to explain in words why Darkfall is fun because the excitement of PvP encounters, looting stories and just random shenanigans is very difficult to translate into text on a forum that is notorious for nitpicking every post complimentary of the game. This, of course, is just my experience. I'm sure theres many that have tried the game and despise it. I personally prefer it to anything out there at the moment thanks to moments in-game that can't be experienced in the majority of MMO's.
Me and Polarization are your friends we're not like those other guys, really............
Its not a question whether its working or not, but how different is it from having levels? Even if every single skill point would matter, it is still not different enough from levels - instead of having tiny advantages every 30 minutes, you get one big advantage every 10 hours. 1 apple in 1 minute or 10 apples in 10 - not much difference. But, seems that DF doesn't even have that system. Small skill increase does not matter. So it is like leveling up because you get additional benefits after 25 skills. Just like leveling up. That particular game aspect has been a major grindstone with proDF and conDF. ProDF claim its not level based, so it is supposedly a "better" system then level-based games. ConDF claim it doesn't matter because the benefit comes in bulk skill-ups, not with each individual skill up. I tend to agree with conDF on this issue.
Only difference I see is best posed as a question to you.
How many L1 players does it take to kill a max level player in each of these games, WOW, LOTRO, AOC, WAR, Vangard, EQ2, etc?
How many skill level 1 players does it take to kill a skill level 100 player in Darkfall?
Answer these questions and you just might understand the difference.
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Well full-loot would be the ability to take that dinky starter sword. So if you want to argue semantics, it really isn't full-loot as the prophets have proclaimed. I think it should cost the player something to try and run around naked killing.
That would be retarded game design. You have to give player something to fight with. Even in EVE Online you always get a starter ship. This is game design 101
edit- a better solution 'if they wanted to punish this' is take a tip from the pros (eve online) whereas you always have something major on the line. For instance, losing a pod in EVE will cost ya ISK (aka gold) and possible loss of skill points.
I think it is more retarded to assume that because you lose a starter sword you have no weapons. Fists. Ever heard of them? Common sense 101, no knife? Punch them.
If you can't wrap your head around that, google it, that might help.
You obviously dont have the game, you don't fight with your fists. That's still a very, very BAD idea. You have to give players a default weapon. Linkrealms does it. EVE Online does it. And so does Darkfall
This is nothing new for those of us that know how Loot MMOs handle it
edit- and btw how is that logic? You come at me with a sword / armor / greaves /horseback and I attack you with a fist. I would get my hands sliced clean off and get run over by your horse. Ever seen a history book that gave a recounting of battles where primitives with their fists fought knights with Swords? Screw that, I';m not fighting an armored soldier with my fists like I'm Jet Li
Well full-loot would be the ability to take that dinky starter sword. So if you want to argue semantics, it really isn't full-loot as the prophets have proclaimed. I think it should cost the player something to try and run around naked killing.
That would be retarded game design. You have to give player something to fight with. Even in EVE Online you always get a starter ship. This is game design 101
edit- a better solution 'if they wanted to punish this' is take a tip from the pros (eve online) whereas you always have something major on the line. For instance, losing a pod in EVE will cost ya ISK (aka gold) and possible loss of skill points.
I think it is more retarded to assume that because you lose a starter sword you have no weapons. Fists. Ever heard of them? Common sense 101, no knife? Punch them.
If you can't wrap your head around that, google it, that might help.
You obviously dont have the game, you don't fight with your fists. That's still a very, very BAD idea. You have to give players a default weapon. Linkrealms does it. EVE Online does it. And so does Darkfall
This is nothing new for those of us that know how Loot MMOs handle it
edit- and btw how is that logic? You come at me with a sword / armor / greaves /horseback and I attack you with a fist. I would get my hands sliced clean off and get run over by your horse. Ever seen a history book that gave a recounting of battles where primitives with their fists fought knights with Swords? Screw that, I';m not fighting an armored soldier with my fists like I'm Jet Li
You cant explain to an idiot why theyre stupid. If they understood they wouldnt be an idiot.
Well full-loot would be the ability to take that dinky starter sword. So if you want to argue semantics, it really isn't full-loot as the prophets have proclaimed. I think it should cost the player something to try and run around naked killing.
That would be retarded game design. You have to give player something to fight with. Even in EVE Online you always get a starter ship. This is game design 101
edit- a better solution 'if they wanted to punish this' is take a tip from the pros (eve online) whereas you always have something major on the line. For instance, losing a pod in EVE will cost ya ISK (aka gold) and possible loss of skill points.
I think it is more retarded to assume that because you lose a starter sword you have no weapons. Fists. Ever heard of them? Common sense 101, no knife? Punch them.
If you can't wrap your head around that, google it, that might help.
You obviously dont have the game, you don't fight with your fists. That's still a very, very BAD idea. You have to give players a default weapon. Linkrealms does it. EVE Online does it. And so does Darkfall
This is nothing new for those of us that know how Loot MMOs handle it
edit- and btw how is that logic? You come at me with a sword / armor / greaves /horseback and I attack you with a fist. I would get my hands sliced clean off and get run over by your horse. Ever seen a history book that gave a recounting of battles where primitives with their fists fought knights with Swords? Screw that, I';m not fighting an armored soldier with my fists like I'm Jet Li
You cant explain to an idiot why theyre stupid. If they understood they wouldnt be an idiot.
Oh oh, the DF fanbot trolls have begun to get angry and insulting. Poor babies.
No wonder Df failed, no wonder it went the way of TR, AA, PoTBS and AoC. Since the DF ship is sinking, I hope you guys are hancuffed to the rail.
is why full loot "PvP" fails....
PvP in an MMO fails
Full loot scares the already scardy cat PvPers of the MMO community.....
nuff said
"This may hurt a little, but it's something you'll get used to. Relax....."
When we lost our city to Hyperion zerg I got back to Agon and opened my hunt on hyperions. Well for the first hunt day I earned more than 3000g (a couple of full banded, full scale, reagents, arrows, mounts etc). Then I left the clan but it was the different story...
df has by no means failed I wish there were way less people around spawns.
No, I do not have the game. I don't believe I have ever claimed I did. I'm merely pointing out the fact that you can give players weapons that cannot be looted without having a magically bound sword.
I also don't think I said you should be effective with your fists versus a sword, you like to make things up huh? It would be a way to stop people from running around naked and fighting as discussed earlier in the thread.
Logic, logic, logic. Everyone on this site is a logician. Drop the Star Trek boxed set Spock and get real. If you are so deep-seated in your "logic" you shouldn't have to keep reminding everyone how you are being "logical".
I remember why I don't try and have a discussion on this section. My fault for trying.
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well i'm 35 and have a PhD in science, and then 10 years experience in bioinformatics... you?
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/218865/page/8
No, I do not have the game. I don't believe I have ever claimed I did. I'm merely pointing out the fact that you can give players weapons that cannot be looted without having a magically bound sword.
I also don't think I said you should be effective with your fists versus a sword, you like to make things up huh? It would be a way to stop people from running around naked and fighting as discussed earlier in the thread.
Logic, logic, logic. Everyone on this site is a logician. Drop the Star Trek boxed set Spock and get real. If you are so deep-seated in your "logic" you shouldn't have to keep reminding everyone how you are being "logical".
I remember why I don't try and have a discussion on this section. My fault for trying.
Yep.. everyone is a genius on this site who knows exactly how the world works. Afterall, no man with no weapon has ever bested a man with a weapon. And all video games are ENTIRELY based on the real world, hell, yesterday I was shooting out blue balls of magic.. It was awesome. I had to PWN some newb at stables before he looted my tomb.. because that makes LOGICAL sense.. doesn't it?
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It's because gear doesn't make you any better in darkfall... You know what other game gear doesn't make you better?
Counter-Strike.
... I'm pretty sure you actually buy gear in counterstrike, and I'm pretty sure it's necessary.
It's because gear doesn't make you any better in darkfall... You know what other game gear doesn't make you better?
Counter-Strike.
... I'm pretty sure you actually buy gear in counterstrike, and I'm pretty sure it's necessary.
This is true I used to play CS when it first came out on HL
It's because gear doesn't make you any better in darkfall... You know what other game gear doesn't make you better?
Counter-Strike.
... I'm pretty sure you actually buy gear in counterstrike, and I'm pretty sure it's necessary.
The point is that a guy who's a really good shot with a Deagle will still kill someone who's not a good shot with AWP.. Gear doesn't make the player, it helps them.
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It's because gear doesn't make you any better in darkfall... You know what other game gear doesn't make you better?
Counter-Strike.
... I'm pretty sure you actually buy gear in counterstrike, and I'm pretty sure it's necessary.
The point is that a guy who's a really good shot with a Deagle will still kill someone who's not a good shot with AWP.. Gear doesn't make the player, it helps them.
this man speaks the truth.
camper.
I would rarely find someone with no loot on them.
If all your fiding is a newbie weapon, you need to leave the starting zones. If anything PKing is a great way to get huge amounts of harvesting materials, without the harvesting.
Torrential: DAOC (Pendragon)
Awned: World of Warcraft (Lothar)
Torren: Warhammer Online (Praag)
I can't help but come back to the Darkfall fourms out of amusement. This game sure sounds like an epic disaster. (No fault of the players mind you..) I do feel bad, I hope for any mmo to be successfull, but yeah this is a big failure from everything I read. Even the majority of fans have told me not to buy it right now because it's not very good. @_@ ;
To the people that seem to think DF is a sinking ship: You need to play the game instead of believing everything you read on MMORPG.com forums.
To the OP: Here's a little tip - Move away from the starting areas.
True but a person wearing a full plate in reality would have to totaly ganked by 10+ persons or slowly beaten down by another full plate user.
The difference in armor are a lot bigger IRL than in an game anyways. A guy in full plate would kill a guy unarmed if the guy had no armour but a sword.
Anyways, my solution to the problem would be giving a buff for anyone wearing clothes or armour, even junk is some loot and with a buff it would be even harder to be naked. Besides it is cold wearing loincloth.
Nakeds die fast, if you can hit them.
If you can't hit them, well...gg
Its not a question whether its working or not, but how different is it from having levels?
Even if every single skill point would matter, it is still not different enough from levels - instead of having tiny advantages every 30 minutes, you get one big advantage every 10 hours. 1 apple in 1 minute or 10 apples in 10 - not much difference.
But, seems that DF doesn't even have that system. Small skill increase does not matter. So it is like leveling up because you get additional benefits after 25 skills. Just like leveling up. That particular game aspect has been a major grindstone with proDF and conDF. ProDF claim its not level based, so it is supposedly a "better" system then level-based games. ConDF claim it doesn't matter because the benefit comes in bulk skill-ups, not with each individual skill up. I tend to agree with conDF on this issue.
I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor - pre-WW2 genocide.
noob move away from starter areas , try copperdale for 1 example constant attack by alfars , orc , u cannot farm npc there skin naked ,
how about joining a guild owning a hamlet , taking active aprticipation in sieges , d u think there are naked people playing in sieges
Our right lets dish out a lot of money to try a game that majority of people think suck. That makes sense.
Or does it make more sense to read different reviews on different websites and make an educated judgement, especially when there is no free trial available. Um yeah.
Our right lets dish out a lot of money to try a game that majority of people think suck. That makes sense.
Or does it make more sense to read different reviews on different websites and make an educated judgement, especially when there is no free trial available. Um yeah.
Everything you read or hear from MMORPG.com,and any other websites, blogs, forums, reviews, youtube videos, your best friends, work colleagues and guild members, people that are currently playing or have played, beta testers and leakers, even the official forums are wrong, don't believe their lies, YOU NEED to purchase this game and play it yourself to see the truth.
Darkfall is not like other games, you simply cant understand or appreciate why its the best game ever until you manage to finally buy it and try it for yourself, I cant explain or demonstrate it to you, you just have to buy it and play it yourself to find out, as long as your not a troll hater after you have you will agree with me 100%, until then your opinion is irrelevant.
I am not Tasos nor am I currently employed by him or Aventurine.
Our right lets dish out a lot of money to try a game that majority of people think suck. That makes sense.
Or does it make more sense to read different reviews on different websites and make an educated judgement, especially when there is no free trial available. Um yeah.
Everything you read or hear from MMORPG.com,and any other websites, blogs, forums, reviews, youtube videos, your best friends, work colleagues and guild members, people that are currently playing or have played, beta testers and leakers, even the official forums are wrong, don't believe their lies, YOU NEED to purchase this game and play it yourself to see the truth.
Darkfall is not like other games, you simply cant understand or appreciate why its the best game ever until you manage to finally buy it and try it for yourself, I cant explain or demonstrate it to you, you just have to buy it and play it yourself to find out, as long as your not a troll hater after you have you will agree with me 100%, until then your opinion is irrelevant.
I am not Tasos nor am I currently employed by him or Aventurine.
I actually aimed that post at people that seem to show enough interest in the game to hang around these forums. Obviously if you've made your mind up based on a few random reviews then don't bother with the game. If you're lurking these forums and believe everything you read here, I'm suggesting you make your own mind up as there are alot of people in-game enjoying it thoroughly. If you're not willing to try the game with an open mind, I see little reason for you being here.
To the second reply (Polarization), I understand your post displays dazzling wit and satire but some of your post actually rings true. It's difficult to explain in words why Darkfall is fun because the excitement of PvP encounters, looting stories and just random shenanigans is very difficult to translate into text on a forum that is notorious for nitpicking every post complimentary of the game. This, of course, is just my experience. I'm sure theres many that have tried the game and despise it. I personally prefer it to anything out there at the moment thanks to moments in-game that can't be experienced in the majority of MMO's.
Our right lets dish out a lot of money to try a game that majority of people think suck. That makes sense.
Or does it make more sense to read different reviews on different websites and make an educated judgement, especially when there is no free trial available. Um yeah.
Everything you read or hear from MMORPG.com,and any other websites, blogs, forums, reviews, youtube videos, your best friends, work colleagues and guild members, people that are currently playing or have played, beta testers and leakers, even the official forums are wrong, don't believe their lies, YOU NEED to purchase this game and play it yourself to see the truth.
Darkfall is not like other games, you simply cant understand or appreciate why its the best game ever until you manage to finally buy it and try it for yourself, I cant explain or demonstrate it to you, you just have to buy it and play it yourself to find out, as long as your not a troll hater after you have you will agree with me 100%, until then your opinion is irrelevant.
I am not Tasos nor am I currently employed by him or Aventurine.
I actually aimed that post at people that seem to show enough interest in the game to hang around these forums. Obviously if you've made your mind up based on a few random reviews then don't bother with the game. If you're lurking these forums and believe everything you read here, I'm suggesting you make your own mind up as there are alot of people in-game enjoying it thoroughly. If you're not willing to try the game with an open mind, I see little reason for you being here.
To the second reply (Polarization), I understand your post displays dazzling wit and satire but some of your post actually rings true. It's difficult to explain in words why Darkfall is fun because the excitement of PvP encounters, looting stories and just random shenanigans is very difficult to translate into text on a forum that is notorious for nitpicking every post complimentary of the game. This, of course, is just my experience. I'm sure theres many that have tried the game and despise it. I personally prefer it to anything out there at the moment thanks to moments in-game that can't be experienced in the majority of MMO's.
Me and Polarization are your friends we're not like those other guys, really............
Iiii-iiiiiit's.... me!!! *Hooray*
Only difference I see is best posed as a question to you.
How many L1 players does it take to kill a max level player in each of these games, WOW, LOTRO, AOC, WAR, Vangard, EQ2, etc?
How many skill level 1 players does it take to kill a skill level 100 player in Darkfall?
Answer these questions and you just might understand the difference.