I'm 57 and feel that most of you are too YOUNG to play the games.
LOL I can agree with this, ive met some people in there 30's act like a teenager.
I remember partying with this group and I accidentally brought a train to us and the healer straight up told me Im not even going to heal you because you did that. Which is fine by me were playing WoW and its not like the death penalty is harsh or anything . Oh no I have to do a corpse run that took 2 minutes now pissed. lol
But the guy was freaking out calling me and everyone else in the party idiots. I thought it was funny as hell that someone would be all worked up over a game let alone this game. He was acting like a 14 yo, which im sure they were but like I said before it could be someone of any age acting stupid.
I was born in 1956 and began playing MMO's with DAoC and Ryzom, eventually moving on to Lineage 2, EverQuest 2, and now World of Warcraft. I have a fairly sizable guild standing now at around 215 players. The average age in my guild is about 26 years of age.
I have turned this over in my head a few times wondering why I find myself so captivated by MMO's. Originally, I do believe when I first began playing was at the end of the "golden age" of "RPing" in many an MMO. There was a new phenomenom beginning with the advent of EverQuest, Asheron's Call, and Ultima Online with a growing number of people showing interest in these massively multiple role playing games. I liken it to sort of a chat room with a game wrapped around it effect.
Now, I see a new phenomenom rising along the horizon. Middle-agers discovering the joys, sorrows, exhileration, and frustrations their kids have experience playing these games. Many parents have tried MMO's out of curiosity and some have remained leveling, grinding, and fighting along side their siblings. I have a prediction that this phenomenom will continue and within 10 years or so many of these parents will have grand children and be considering retirement. Could the MMO, finally be maturing? Possibly. At any rate, I do see a more mature group of playing in the future. This would change the look and feel of many of the games we play today, I think. MMO's for many of us "older folks" are becoming a passtime and thus you might see more of us logging in as time passes.
To answer our young squire, OP, no you are certainly not too old to enjoy a good online game with your friends...or...LOL...maybe even your parents...<winks>
All I want is the truth Just gimme some truth John Lennon
Originally posted by cukimunga LOL I can agree with this, ive met some people in there 30's act like a teenager. I remember partying with this group and I accidentally brought a train to us and the healer straight up told me Im not even going to heal you because you did that. Which is fine by me were playing WoW and its not like the death penalty is harsh or anything . Oh no I have to do a corpse run that took 2 minutes now pissed. lol But the guy was freaking out calling me and everyone else in the party idiots. I thought it was funny as hell that someone would be all worked up over a game let alone this game. He was acting like a 14 yo, which im sure they were but like I said before it could be someone of any age acting stupid. This post prompted me to go to youtube and watch the Onyxia wipe again; nothing funnier than nerd-rage.
Playing: EVE, Final Fantasy 13, Uncharted 2, Need for Speed: Shift
Hi everyone and to the OP, I was born in 1956 and began playing MMO's with DAoC and Ryzom, eventually moving on to Lineage 2, EverQuest 2, and now World of Warcraft. I have a fairly sizable guild standing now at around 215 players. The average age in my guild is about 26 years of age. I have turned this over in my head a few times wondering why I find myself so captivated by MMO's. Originally, I do believe when I first began playing was at the end of the "golden age" of "RPing" in many an MMO. There was a new phenomenom beginning with the advent of EverQuest, Asheron's Call, and Ultima Online with a growing number of people showing interest in these massively multiple role playing games. I liken it to sort of a chat room with a game wrapped around it effect. Now, I see a new phenomenom rising along the horizon. Middle-agers discovering the joys, sorrows, exhileration, and frustrations their kids have experience playing these games. Many parents have tried MMO's out of curiosity and some have remained leveling, grinding, and fighting along side their siblings. I have a prediction that this phenomenom will continue and within 10 years or so many of these parents will have grand children and be considering retirement. Could the MMO, finally be maturing? Possibly. At any rate, I do see a more mature group of playing in the future. This would change the look and feel of many of the games we play today, I think. MMO's for many of us "older folks" are becoming a passtime and thus you might see more of us logging in as time passes. To answer our young squire, OP, no you are certainly not too old to enjoy a good online game with your friends...or...LOL...maybe even your parents...<winks>
I began with D&D - the pen and paper game. MMO's are just a way to always have a game going - without the tedious paper work - got's to love it. Though I sometimes wish for the old days when I could control who came over to play the game and eat pizza.
There is no age limit to MMO's, im 49, i know and play regularly with ages 12 to 65. Does kinda of suck as a 49 year old to be playing a mmo, following a leader, then finally getting in vent and finding out this person that is your "leader" is like 17..lol
When I said i had "time", i meant virtual time, i got no RL "time" for you.
Hi everyone and to the OP, I was born in 1956 and began playing MMO's with DAoC and Ryzom, eventually moving on to Lineage 2, EverQuest 2, and now World of Warcraft. I have a fairly sizable guild standing now at around 215 players. The average age in my guild is about 26 years of age. I have turned this over in my head a few times wondering why I find myself so captivated by MMO's. Originally, I do believe when I first began playing was at the end of the "golden age" of "RPing" in many an MMO. There was a new phenomenom beginning with the advent of EverQuest, Asheron's Call, and Ultima Online with a growing number of people showing interest in these massively multiple role playing games. I liken it to sort of a chat room with a game wrapped around it effect. Now, I see a new phenomenom rising along the horizon. Middle-agers discovering the joys, sorrows, exhileration, and frustrations their kids have experience playing these games. Many parents have tried MMO's out of curiosity and some have remained leveling, grinding, and fighting along side their siblings. I have a prediction that this phenomenom will continue and within 10 years or so many of these parents will have grand children and be considering retirement. Could the MMO, finally be maturing? Possibly. At any rate, I do see a more mature group of playing in the future. This would change the look and feel of many of the games we play today, I think. MMO's for many of us "older folks" are becoming a passtime and thus you might see more of us logging in as time passes. To answer our young squire, OP, no you are certainly not too old to enjoy a good online game with your friends...or...LOL...maybe even your parents...<winks>
I began with D&D - the pen and paper game. MMO's are just a way to always have a game going - without the tedious paper work - got's to love it. Though I sometimes wish for the old days when I could control who came over to play the game and eat pizza.
LOL, yeah...very true and thanks for your repsonse
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All I want is the truth Just gimme some truth John Lennon
I am 37 years old, and while I don't have the time (nor would I want to) to be a "hardcore" player every single day anymore, I still play MMO's and I don't ever plan to stop as long as there are entertaining MMO's to play. (right now there are none, IMO). My current background on my work computer is the render of the girl with the shotgun from The Secret World upcoming MMO. If my coworkers ask me about it, I feel no shame in telling them about it. I will say that I am not your stereotypical MMO player in the first place, so many are surpised when I tell them I am.
My father is approaching 60 years old now, and he's one of those badass/rich EVE players.
I believe there is no such thing as "too old" to play MMO's as long as you are being a responsible adult inside and outside of the game. If you are living your real ife, and holding up your responsibilities with your family, friends and work life, then I don't see how there can be a problem.
If some other adult tells you that you are too old, tell them they are idiots. How is it ok to sit in front of a TV for several hours per night, vegitating, but someone playing an engaging and sometimes educational MMO game is not ok? I have friends that spend their entire weekends watching sports on TV, yet they do exactly NO sports themselves. If any of them even attempted to make fun of me for opting to play a video game instead of watch other people play sports, I would rip them a new one. A couple have tried in the past, much to their dismay.
Now I will say this. I have found that as I am getting older, the MMO game worlds are feeling more and more shallow, partly because game developers have become lazy, and rely on making games prettier, but not on evolving gameplay or depth of mechanical/physical detail in the game worlds.The other part is because the path I am taking through life personally though. I have come to believe that the mind/consciousness is the final frontier of exploration, and as such, I have changed the way I live, and the activities I do with my free ti me. I spend more time learning now than I ever did in my youth. Gaming is still one of those activities though, and an important one in my opinion.
Plus, you are never too old for a little PvP smack talk....as long as you can bring it.
A sure sign that you are in an old, dying paradigm/mindset, is when you are scared of new ideas and new technology. Don't feel bad. The world is moving on without you, and you are welcome to yell "Get Off My Lawn!" all you want while it happens. You cannot, however, stop an idea whose time has come.
I am 37 years old, and while I don't have the time (nor would I want to) to be a "hardcore" player every single day anymore, I still play MMO's and I don't ever plan to stop as long as there are entertaining MMO's to play. (right not there are none IMO). My father is approaching 60 years old now, and he's one of those badass/rich EVE players. I beleive there is no such thing as "too old" to play MMO's as long as you are being a responible adult inside and outside of the game. If you are living your real ife, and holding up your responsibilities with your family, friends and work life, then I don't see how there can be a problem. If some other adult tells you that you are too old, tell them they are idiots. How is it ok to sit in front of a TV for several hours per night, vegitating, but someone playing an engaging and sometimes educational MMO game is not ok? I have friends that spend their entire weekends watching sports on TV, yet they do exactly NO sports themselves. If any of them even attempted to make fun of me for opting to play a video game instead of watch other people play sports, I would rip them a new one. A couple have tried in the past, much to their dismay. Now I will say this. I have found that as I am getting older, the MMO game worlds are feeling more and more shallow, partly because game developers have become lazy, and rely on making games prettier, but not on evolving gameplay or depth of mechanical/physical detail in the game worlds.The other part is because the path I am taking through life personally though. I have come to believe that the mind/consciousness is the final frontier of exploration, and as such, I have changed the way I live, and the activities I do with my free ti me. I spend more time learning now than I ever did in my youth. Gaming is still one of those activities though, and an important one in my opinion. Plus, you are never too old for a little PvP smack talk....as long as you can bring it.
I agree and will note here that I started playing Guild Wars again - A game I actually had the fun of beta testing. After it came out I got bored and left. I returned to it and found it had expanded into a good game. The graphics are old but the game play is fairly good - you can solo or group and there is PvP and PvE. Most importantly in this econonmy - it is fun without a monthly fee.
This is a very interesting thread, and maybe one of the few which attracted my interest here in recent weeks.
To answer the question: No, I don' t think you're too old for MMO's, and a few of them out there are definitely mature in outlook (in comparison to WoW and the like).
But you will probably reach a point where you will ask yourself not whether you're too old for MMO's, but why you should waste your life on a game, as such people seem to be doing. What will be left at the end? When I hear about people saying their MMO will never die (WoW), I think they're deluding themselves into thinking that what they do in a video game is worth while.
One day you will look at yourself in the mirror and realize that you're not so young anymore, and that you wasted all those years playing a game whereas you could have contributed something to the world. Your age is of no importance -- if you're 60 years old, I'm not going to laugh at you because you play MMO games. But you're bound to ask yourself: "What's the point?" sooner or later. It's not your age that is changing, so much as your outlook on life.
This is a very interesting thread, and maybe one of the few which attracted my interest here in recent weeks. To answer the question: No, I don' t think you're too old for MMO's, and a few of them out there are definitely mature in outlook (in comparison to WoW and the like). But you will probably reach a point where you will ask yourself not whether you're too old for MMO's, but why you should waste your life on a game, as such people seem to be doing. What will be left at the end? When I hear about people saying their MMO will never die (WoW), I think they're deluding themselves into thinking that what they do in a video game is worth while. One day you will look at yourself in the mirror and realize that you're not so young anymore, and that you wasted all those years playing a game whereas you could have contributed something to the world. Your age is of no importance -- if you're 60 years old, I'm not going to laugh at you because you play MMO games. But you're bound to ask yourself: "What's the point?" sooner or later. It's not your age that is changing, so much as your outlook on life.
I disagree, I play MMO's to dump the stress built up in life. If that is all I accomplish then I have accomplished a lot. Stress kills people, traps them in unhappy lives. If I have a way, a way that keeps my brain active unlike TV, that helps me have a little happiness in my life, lets me communicate with people in other countries, dumps stress, and is harmless - applaud me and try it yourself.
This is a very interesting thread, and maybe one of the few which attracted my interest here in recent weeks. To answer the question: No, I don' t think you're too old for MMO's, and a few of them out there are definitely mature in outlook (in comparison to WoW and the like). But you will probably reach a point where you will ask yourself not whether you're too old for MMO's, but why you should waste your life on a game, as such people seem to be doing. What will be left at the end? When I hear about people saying their MMO will never die (WoW), I think they're deluding themselves into thinking that what they do in a video game is worth while. One day you will look at yourself in the mirror and realize that you're not so young anymore, and that you wasted all those years playing a game whereas you could have contributed something to the world. Your age is of no importance -- if you're 60 years old, I'm not going to laugh at you because you play MMO games. But you're bound to ask yourself: "What's the point?" sooner or later. It's not your age that is changing, so much as your outlook on life.
Interesting indeed.
I have learned through my personal philosophical studies, that the idea of life 'having a point', or needing to be somehow worthwhile is an illusion. These are ideas of the ego, and they are predicated upon what OTHERS think of you and how you lived your life. When your time here is up, what does it matter if you left something behind for others to talk about unless this is something you really want to do?
It is up to each person to decide 'what's the point'. If someone lived their lives completely happily within virtual worlds, and they died a happy person, who is to say how they spent their time was wrong? I also believe that if you are the type of person who wants/needs to grow in another direction, you will do so naturally no matter how much fun you have in video games. At some point, the shine of the virtual world will begin to fade, and you will seek something else.
I am one of those people. I used to be a "hardcore" gamer who did little else with my spare time years ago. I wasn't being intellectually stimulated by reality, so video games satisfied this for a long while.. However, I started to get that feeling that I needed more, and so I began to seek it out. There is no need to go into detail about where my path has taken me so far except to say that it eventually rendered games a much less rich experience than things I am doing now in real life. I still love playing MMO's and there are several coming down the road that I am anticipating like crazy. I am still very passionate about these games, but I am even more passionate about other things now.
Now, if I was laying my egoic view on you, I would tell you that even though real life seems to be very shallow and boring, and may cause you to seek out video games as an escape or fantastic alternative to real life, there truly is so much more to be discovered in the real world. If you don't see this, then I would say you are not looking past the surface appearance of things, and you need to dig deeper. This is what I have found to be true for myself though, and I wouldn't tell you that the way you have chosen to live your short life on this planet is wrong just because your path is different.
I have now completely stepped outside the boundary of on-topic discussion for this thread, and indeed the entire website. As such, I will shutup now. LOL! :P
A sure sign that you are in an old, dying paradigm/mindset, is when you are scared of new ideas and new technology. Don't feel bad. The world is moving on without you, and you are welcome to yell "Get Off My Lawn!" all you want while it happens. You cannot, however, stop an idea whose time has come.
I'm 49 and have played every mmo known to man last 15 yrs or so. So No you can never be too old to play em...However!! You can definetly be to young to play em ! Most of the modern players have no clue to what a true mmo even is *cough cough WOW** MMo's are all about interaction with other players. The new generation of mmo's that are all about casual gamers and solo play really upsets me. Guess we have blizzard to thank for ruining the future of mmo's because of the money to be made by marketing new mmo's to the mass of idiot's out there that dont have a clue what old school mmo's were like back in the day . So sad *cry big puppy dog tears* currently playing LotRO and Vanguard and eve online when im in the mood...
This is a very interesting thread, and maybe one of the few which attracted my interest here in recent weeks. To answer the question: No, I don' t think you're too old for MMO's, and a few of them out there are definitely mature in outlook (in comparison to WoW and the like). But you will probably reach a point where you will ask yourself not whether you're too old for MMO's, but why you should waste your life on a game, as such people seem to be doing. What will be left at the end? When I hear about people saying their MMO will never die (WoW), I think they're deluding themselves into thinking that what they do in a video game is worth while. One day you will look at yourself in the mirror and realize that you're not so young anymore, and that you wasted all those years playing a game whereas you could have contributed something to the world. Your age is of no importance -- if you're 60 years old, I'm not going to laugh at you because you play MMO games. But you're bound to ask yourself: "What's the point?" sooner or later. It's not your age that is changing, so much as your outlook on life.
Interesting indeed.
I have learned through my personal philosophical studies, that the idea of life 'having a point', or needing to be somehow worthwhile is an illusion. These are ideas of the ego, and they are predicated upon what OTHERS think of you and how you lived your life. When your time here is up, what does it matter if you left something behind for others to talk about unless this is something you really want to do?
It is up to each person to decide 'what's the point'. If someone lived their lives completely happily within virtual worlds, and they died a happy person, who is to say how they spent their time was wrong? I also believe that if you are the type of person who wants/needs to grow in another direction, you will do so naturally no matter how much fun you have in video games. At some point, the shine of the virtual world will begin to fade, and you will seek something else.
I am one of those people. I used to be a "hardcore" gamer who did little else with my spare time years ago. I wasn't being intellectually stimulated by reality, so video games satisfied this for a long while.. However, I started to get that feeling that I needed more, and so I began to seek it out. There is no need to go into detail about where my path has taken me so far except to say that it eventually rendered games a much less rich experience than things I am doing now in real life. I still love playing MMO's and there are several coming down the road that I am anticipating like crazy. I am still very passionate about these games, but I am even more passionate about other things now.
Now, if I was laying my egoic view on you, I would tell you that even though real life seems to be very shallow and boring, and may cause you to seek out video games as an escape or fantastic alternative to real life, there truly is so much more to be discovered in the real world. If you don't see this, then I would say you are not looking past the surface appearance of things, and you need to dig deeper. This is what I have found to be true for myself though, and I wouldn't tell you that the way you have chosen to live your short life on this planet is wrong just because your path is different.
I have now completely stepped outside the boundary of on-topic discussion for this thread, and indeed the entire website. As such, I will shutup now. LOL! :P
Interesting point Mindtrigger. I've been playing MMOG's awhile (Since 98' to be exact), but I am now also starting to feel a bit "Shallow" while playing. The things I initially started playing MMOG's for just ain't found in as big a degree as I would have liked, and I'm starting to wonder why I bother.
In the end I suppose I am reaching full circle, but I do not regret the countless hours spent over the past eleven years. Even though I realize that it likely caused me more grief in relation to my currently adult life than I would care to admit.
Some people need more mental stimulation than TV can provide. I read books during the day and play games after Supper till bed.
I'm 44 and I will play games until I get too arthritic to type LOL. I have to add too that I live in Upstate NY where we have crappy weather from Oct-May. MMO's keep my sanity in check during those 7 months of crappy weather.
You are NEVER too old to play MMO's. Some people need more mental stimulation than TV can provide. I read books during the day and play games after Supper till bed. I'm 44 and I will play games until I get too arthritic to type LOL. I have to add too that I live in Upstate NY where we have crappy weather from Oct-May. MMO's keep my sanity in check during those 7 months of crappy weather.
Ah a fellow upstater - it became crappy weather to me when I lost my desire to ice fish( too dangerous for me). MMO's are much safer, tho you can't eat them.
I don't think there is an age you reach when you're too old to do anything you have fun doing unless you're too old to physically do it. Like my grandpa couldn't go out and play basketball anymore so he had to pick up golfing instead. When it comes to video games though I think you'll see people of our generation still playing them well into retirement age because we grew up on them. On top of that I'm pretty sure when we reach that age we will make up a market share for video games and certain companies will make games geared towards us.
So no I don't think you're too old to play MMOs and I'm 23 just to let you know. I do find that with career goals, relationships, and that sorta life/growing up stuff the time I have to play is considerably less then when I was younger. So playing all hours of the night and all weekend long with no sleep was something I did a lot. Now I don't even really play on weekends ever unless there is absolutely nothing to do and i might play 4-5 hours 2-3 nights a week. Who's to say though you could be one of those cool 30 yr old dudes that lives in grandma's basement and works part time at the local gas station and has more time to play then not. That is always an option for some =P
Gamers are not gamers as a function of some sort of age requirement. Gamers game because we grew up gaming as a normal form of entertainment. Only those who grew up in an era where personal video game systems weren't available could see it as a child's activity. Modern games like MMOs are huge leaps forward technologically speaking from where we were 25 years ago, and continue to drive the technology forward generating advancements that serve many different applications in medicine, engineering, defense aside from making games themselves easier and more cost effective to make. Just because these advancements come via gaming doesn't make them any less meaningful. At 22 you are a man, no game is gonna change that, so ignore the propoganda and get the facts.
"According to the ESA's 2008 Essential Facts, 40 percent of all players are women, and women over 18 years of age are one of the industry's fastest growing demographic groups.
America's entertainment software industry creates a wide array of computer and video games to meet the demands and tastes of audiences as diverse as our nation's population. Today's gamers include millions of Americans of all ages and backgrounds. In fact, almost two-thirds of all American households play games. This vast audience is fueling the growth of this multi-billion dollar industry and bringing jobs to communities across the nation. Below is a list of the top 10 entertainment software industry facts:
1) U.S. computer and video game software sales grew six percent in 2007 to $9.5 billion – more than tripling industry software sales since 1996.
2) Sixty-five percent of American households play computer or video games.
3) The average game player is 35 years old and has been playing games for 13 years.
4) The average age of the most frequent game purchaser is 40 years old.
5) Forty percent of all game players are women. In fact, women over the age of 18 represent a significantly greater portion of the game playing population (33 percent) than boys age 17 or younger (18 percent).
6) In 2008, 26 percent of Americans over the age of 50 played video games, an increase from nine percent in 1999.
7) Thirty-six percent of heads of households play games on a wireless device, such as a cell phone or PDA, up from 20 percent in 2002.
8) Eighty-five percent of all games sold in 2007 were rated "E" for Everyone, "T" for Teen, or "E10+" for Everyone 10+. For more information on game ratings, please see www.esrb.org.
9) Ninety-four percent of game players under the age of 18 report that their parents are present when they purchase or rent games.
10) Sixty-three percent of parents believe games are a positive part of their children’s lives. "
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the average (average!!) age of an eve player is 31, i believe.
I'm 31 myself Played since i was 22.
2 of my verybest friends i've made in an MMo are a husb and wife who live in a retired ppl's commnity in FLA
RIP Ribbitribbitt you are missed, kid.
Currently Playing EVE, ESO
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LOL I can agree with this, ive met some people in there 30's act like a teenager.
I remember partying with this group and I accidentally brought a train to us and the healer straight up told me Im not even going to heal you because you did that. Which is fine by me were playing WoW and its not like the death penalty is harsh or anything . Oh no I have to do a corpse run that took 2 minutes now pissed. lol
But the guy was freaking out calling me and everyone else in the party idiots. I thought it was funny as hell that someone would be all worked up over a game let alone this game. He was acting like a 14 yo, which im sure they were but like I said before it could be someone of any age acting stupid.
I'm pretty sure this is what the OP was actually pushing at.
And I agree.
Tried: LotR, CoH, AoC, WAR, Jumpgate Classic
Played: SWG, Guild Wars, WoW
Playing: Eve Online, Counter-strike
Loved: Star Wars Galaxies
Waiting for: Earthrise, Guild Wars 2, anything sandbox.
I am 42 but I have the mind and penis of a 17 year old.
I think you're too young.
Seriously, since when was there an upper age requirement?
Torrential: DAOC (Pendragon)
Awned: World of Warcraft (Lothar)
Torren: Warhammer Online (Praag)
Hi everyone and to the OP,
I was born in 1956 and began playing MMO's with DAoC and Ryzom, eventually moving on to Lineage 2, EverQuest 2, and now World of Warcraft. I have a fairly sizable guild standing now at around 215 players. The average age in my guild is about 26 years of age.
I have turned this over in my head a few times wondering why I find myself so captivated by MMO's. Originally, I do believe when I first began playing was at the end of the "golden age" of "RPing" in many an MMO. There was a new phenomenom beginning with the advent of EverQuest, Asheron's Call, and Ultima Online with a growing number of people showing interest in these massively multiple role playing games. I liken it to sort of a chat room with a game wrapped around it effect.
Now, I see a new phenomenom rising along the horizon. Middle-agers discovering the joys, sorrows, exhileration, and frustrations their kids have experience playing these games. Many parents have tried MMO's out of curiosity and some have remained leveling, grinding, and fighting along side their siblings. I have a prediction that this phenomenom will continue and within 10 years or so many of these parents will have grand children and be considering retirement. Could the MMO, finally be maturing? Possibly. At any rate, I do see a more mature group of playing in the future. This would change the look and feel of many of the games we play today, I think. MMO's for many of us "older folks" are becoming a passtime and thus you might see more of us logging in as time passes.
To answer our young squire, OP, no you are certainly not too old to enjoy a good online game with your friends...or...LOL...maybe even your parents...<winks>
All I want is the truth
Just gimme some truth
John Lennon
Playing: EVE, Final Fantasy 13, Uncharted 2, Need for Speed: Shift
I began with D&D - the pen and paper game. MMO's are just a way to always have a game going - without the tedious paper work - got's to love it. Though I sometimes wish for the old days when I could control who came over to play the game and eat pizza.
22 might be too old for a kiddie game like Runescape, but it's on the young side for some games that appeal to a more mature playerbase.
There is no age limit to MMO's, im 49, i know and play regularly with ages 12 to 65. Does kinda of suck as a 49 year old to be playing a mmo, following a leader, then finally getting in vent and finding out this person that is your "leader" is like 17..lol
When I said i had "time", i meant virtual time, i got no RL "time" for you.
I began with D&D - the pen and paper game. MMO's are just a way to always have a game going - without the tedious paper work - got's to love it. Though I sometimes wish for the old days when I could control who came over to play the game and eat pizza.
LOL, yeah...very true and thanks for your repsonse
/bows
All I want is the truth
Just gimme some truth
John Lennon
I am 37 years old, and while I don't have the time (nor would I want to) to be a "hardcore" player every single day anymore, I still play MMO's and I don't ever plan to stop as long as there are entertaining MMO's to play. (right now there are none, IMO). My current background on my work computer is the render of the girl with the shotgun from The Secret World upcoming MMO. If my coworkers ask me about it, I feel no shame in telling them about it. I will say that I am not your stereotypical MMO player in the first place, so many are surpised when I tell them I am.
My father is approaching 60 years old now, and he's one of those badass/rich EVE players.
I believe there is no such thing as "too old" to play MMO's as long as you are being a responsible adult inside and outside of the game. If you are living your real ife, and holding up your responsibilities with your family, friends and work life, then I don't see how there can be a problem.
If some other adult tells you that you are too old, tell them they are idiots. How is it ok to sit in front of a TV for several hours per night, vegitating, but someone playing an engaging and sometimes educational MMO game is not ok? I have friends that spend their entire weekends watching sports on TV, yet they do exactly NO sports themselves. If any of them even attempted to make fun of me for opting to play a video game instead of watch other people play sports, I would rip them a new one. A couple have tried in the past, much to their dismay.
Now I will say this. I have found that as I am getting older, the MMO game worlds are feeling more and more shallow, partly because game developers have become lazy, and rely on making games prettier, but not on evolving gameplay or depth of mechanical/physical detail in the game worlds.The other part is because the path I am taking through life personally though. I have come to believe that the mind/consciousness is the final frontier of exploration, and as such, I have changed the way I live, and the activities I do with my free ti me. I spend more time learning now than I ever did in my youth. Gaming is still one of those activities though, and an important one in my opinion.
Plus, you are never too old for a little PvP smack talk....as long as you can bring it.
A sure sign that you are in an old, dying paradigm/mindset, is when you are scared of new ideas and new technology. Don't feel bad. The world is moving on without you, and you are welcome to yell "Get Off My Lawn!" all you want while it happens. You cannot, however, stop an idea whose time has come.
I agree and will note here that I started playing Guild Wars again - A game I actually had the fun of beta testing. After it came out I got bored and left. I returned to it and found it had expanded into a good game. The graphics are old but the game play is fairly good - you can solo or group and there is PvP and PvE. Most importantly in this econonmy - it is fun without a monthly fee.
This is a very interesting thread, and maybe one of the few which attracted my interest here in recent weeks.
To answer the question: No, I don' t think you're too old for MMO's, and a few of them out there are definitely mature in outlook (in comparison to WoW and the like).
But you will probably reach a point where you will ask yourself not whether you're too old for MMO's, but why you should waste your life on a game, as such people seem to be doing. What will be left at the end? When I hear about people saying their MMO will never die (WoW), I think they're deluding themselves into thinking that what they do in a video game is worth while.
One day you will look at yourself in the mirror and realize that you're not so young anymore, and that you wasted all those years playing a game whereas you could have contributed something to the world. Your age is of no importance -- if you're 60 years old, I'm not going to laugh at you because you play MMO games. But you're bound to ask yourself: "What's the point?" sooner or later. It's not your age that is changing, so much as your outlook on life.
You can never be to old to play video games. If anything the more mature players there are the better.
I disagree, I play MMO's to dump the stress built up in life. If that is all I accomplish then I have accomplished a lot. Stress kills people, traps them in unhappy lives. If I have a way, a way that keeps my brain active unlike TV, that helps me have a little happiness in my life, lets me communicate with people in other countries, dumps stress, and is harmless - applaud me and try it yourself.
Interesting indeed.
I have learned through my personal philosophical studies, that the idea of life 'having a point', or needing to be somehow worthwhile is an illusion. These are ideas of the ego, and they are predicated upon what OTHERS think of you and how you lived your life. When your time here is up, what does it matter if you left something behind for others to talk about unless this is something you really want to do?
It is up to each person to decide 'what's the point'. If someone lived their lives completely happily within virtual worlds, and they died a happy person, who is to say how they spent their time was wrong? I also believe that if you are the type of person who wants/needs to grow in another direction, you will do so naturally no matter how much fun you have in video games. At some point, the shine of the virtual world will begin to fade, and you will seek something else.
I am one of those people. I used to be a "hardcore" gamer who did little else with my spare time years ago. I wasn't being intellectually stimulated by reality, so video games satisfied this for a long while.. However, I started to get that feeling that I needed more, and so I began to seek it out. There is no need to go into detail about where my path has taken me so far except to say that it eventually rendered games a much less rich experience than things I am doing now in real life. I still love playing MMO's and there are several coming down the road that I am anticipating like crazy. I am still very passionate about these games, but I am even more passionate about other things now.
Now, if I was laying my egoic view on you, I would tell you that even though real life seems to be very shallow and boring, and may cause you to seek out video games as an escape or fantastic alternative to real life, there truly is so much more to be discovered in the real world. If you don't see this, then I would say you are not looking past the surface appearance of things, and you need to dig deeper. This is what I have found to be true for myself though, and I wouldn't tell you that the way you have chosen to live your short life on this planet is wrong just because your path is different.
I have now completely stepped outside the boundary of on-topic discussion for this thread, and indeed the entire website. As such, I will shutup now. LOL! :P
A sure sign that you are in an old, dying paradigm/mindset, is when you are scared of new ideas and new technology. Don't feel bad. The world is moving on without you, and you are welcome to yell "Get Off My Lawn!" all you want while it happens. You cannot, however, stop an idea whose time has come.
Well you won't be allowed to play in my guild i'm afraid, you have to be over 25 to join.
Sorry
I'm 49 and have played every mmo known to man last 15 yrs or so. So No you can never be too old to play em...However!! You can definetly be to young to play em ! Most of the modern players have no clue to what a true mmo even is *cough cough WOW** MMo's are all about interaction with other players. The new generation of mmo's that are all about casual gamers and solo play really upsets me. Guess we have blizzard to thank for ruining the future of mmo's because of the money to be made by marketing new mmo's to the mass of idiot's out there that dont have a clue what old school mmo's were like back in the day . So sad *cry big puppy dog tears* currently playing LotRO and Vanguard and eve online when im in the mood...
Interesting indeed.
I have learned through my personal philosophical studies, that the idea of life 'having a point', or needing to be somehow worthwhile is an illusion. These are ideas of the ego, and they are predicated upon what OTHERS think of you and how you lived your life. When your time here is up, what does it matter if you left something behind for others to talk about unless this is something you really want to do?
It is up to each person to decide 'what's the point'. If someone lived their lives completely happily within virtual worlds, and they died a happy person, who is to say how they spent their time was wrong? I also believe that if you are the type of person who wants/needs to grow in another direction, you will do so naturally no matter how much fun you have in video games. At some point, the shine of the virtual world will begin to fade, and you will seek something else.
I am one of those people. I used to be a "hardcore" gamer who did little else with my spare time years ago. I wasn't being intellectually stimulated by reality, so video games satisfied this for a long while.. However, I started to get that feeling that I needed more, and so I began to seek it out. There is no need to go into detail about where my path has taken me so far except to say that it eventually rendered games a much less rich experience than things I am doing now in real life. I still love playing MMO's and there are several coming down the road that I am anticipating like crazy. I am still very passionate about these games, but I am even more passionate about other things now.
Now, if I was laying my egoic view on you, I would tell you that even though real life seems to be very shallow and boring, and may cause you to seek out video games as an escape or fantastic alternative to real life, there truly is so much more to be discovered in the real world. If you don't see this, then I would say you are not looking past the surface appearance of things, and you need to dig deeper. This is what I have found to be true for myself though, and I wouldn't tell you that the way you have chosen to live your short life on this planet is wrong just because your path is different.
I have now completely stepped outside the boundary of on-topic discussion for this thread, and indeed the entire website. As such, I will shutup now. LOL! :P
Interesting point Mindtrigger. I've been playing MMOG's awhile (Since 98' to be exact), but I am now also starting to feel a bit "Shallow" while playing. The things I initially started playing MMOG's for just ain't found in as big a degree as I would have liked, and I'm starting to wonder why I bother.
In the end I suppose I am reaching full circle, but I do not regret the countless hours spent over the past eleven years. Even though I realize that it likely caused me more grief in relation to my currently adult life than I would care to admit.
You are NEVER too old to play MMO's.
Some people need more mental stimulation than TV can provide. I read books during the day and play games after Supper till bed.
I'm 44 and I will play games until I get too arthritic to type LOL. I have to add too that I live in Upstate NY where we have crappy weather from Oct-May. MMO's keep my sanity in check during those 7 months of crappy weather.
Ah a fellow upstater - it became crappy weather to me when I lost my desire to ice fish( too dangerous for me). MMO's are much safer, tho you can't eat them.
I don't think there is an age you reach when you're too old to do anything you have fun doing unless you're too old to physically do it. Like my grandpa couldn't go out and play basketball anymore so he had to pick up golfing instead. When it comes to video games though I think you'll see people of our generation still playing them well into retirement age because we grew up on them. On top of that I'm pretty sure when we reach that age we will make up a market share for video games and certain companies will make games geared towards us.
So no I don't think you're too old to play MMOs and I'm 23 just to let you know. I do find that with career goals, relationships, and that sorta life/growing up stuff the time I have to play is considerably less then when I was younger. So playing all hours of the night and all weekend long with no sleep was something I did a lot. Now I don't even really play on weekends ever unless there is absolutely nothing to do and i might play 4-5 hours 2-3 nights a week. Who's to say though you could be one of those cool 30 yr old dudes that lives in grandma's basement and works part time at the local gas station and has more time to play then not. That is always an option for some =P
Well I am 44 and my mom is 65 we both play MMO's, she plays alot more than I do. lol
In my old EQ guild our lead clr was 80yrs old and a great clr.
So if you are having fun and have the time play away if not dont. Really it is not your age but your interest.
Gamers are not gamers as a function of some sort of age requirement. Gamers game because we grew up gaming as a normal form of entertainment. Only those who grew up in an era where personal video game systems weren't available could see it as a child's activity. Modern games like MMOs are huge leaps forward technologically speaking from where we were 25 years ago, and continue to drive the technology forward generating advancements that serve many different applications in medicine, engineering, defense aside from making games themselves easier and more cost effective to make. Just because these advancements come via gaming doesn't make them any less meaningful. At 22 you are a man, no game is gonna change that, so ignore the propoganda and get the facts.
http://www.theesa.com/facts/index.asp :
"According to the ESA's 2008 Essential Facts, 40 percent of all players are women, and women over 18 years of age are one of the industry's fastest growing demographic groups.
America's entertainment software industry creates a wide array of computer and video games to meet the demands and tastes of audiences as diverse as our nation's population. Today's gamers include millions of Americans of all ages and backgrounds. In fact, almost two-thirds of all American households play games. This vast audience is fueling the growth of this multi-billion dollar industry and bringing jobs to communities across the nation. Below is a list of the top 10 entertainment software industry facts:
1) U.S. computer and video game software sales grew six percent in 2007 to $9.5 billion – more than tripling industry software sales since 1996.
2) Sixty-five percent of American households play computer or video games.
3) The average game player is 35 years old and has been playing games for 13 years.
4) The average age of the most frequent game purchaser is 40 years old.
5) Forty percent of all game players are women. In fact, women over the age of 18 represent a significantly greater portion of the game playing population (33 percent) than boys age 17 or younger (18 percent).
6) In 2008, 26 percent of Americans over the age of 50 played video games, an increase from nine percent in 1999.
7) Thirty-six percent of heads of households play games on a wireless device, such as a cell phone or PDA, up from 20 percent in 2002.
8) Eighty-five percent of all games sold in 2007 were rated "E" for Everyone, "T" for Teen, or "E10+" for Everyone 10+. For more information on game ratings, please see www.esrb.org.
9) Ninety-four percent of game players under the age of 18 report that their parents are present when they purchase or rent games.
10) Sixty-three percent of parents believe games are a positive part of their children’s lives. "
"The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion." -Edmund Burke
Who will rise up for me against the evildoers? or who will stand up for me against the workers of iniquity?"
(Psalm 94:16)
the average (average!!) age of an eve player is 31, i believe.
I'm 31 myself Played since i was 22.
2 of my verybest friends i've made in an MMo are a husb and wife who live in a retired ppl's commnity in FLA
RIP Ribbitribbitt you are missed, kid.
Currently Playing EVE, ESO
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