Don't take my word for it, read it and weep. Or don't read it and simply take my word for it. Either way, I am correct.
what does this video prove anyway? many accuse him he can easly stage a battle make it look normal and resume doing his dirty deeds. Hackers never wanna get caught and hes a well know ass hat. think 1 vid of a duel is gonna prove innocence. hahahahahahhahah.
Don't take my word for it, read it and weep. Or don't read it and simply take my word for it. Either way, I am correct.
what does this video prove anyway? many accuse him he can easly stage a battle make it look normal and resume doing his dirty deeds. Hackers never wanna get caught and hes a well know ass hat. think 1 vid of a duel is gonna prove innocence. hahahahahahhahah.
Shuyin Hail (the guy who got beat twice) has an ego the size of Asia... trust me, he would NEVER purposefully get beaten.
_______________________________________________ Games looking forward to: Fallen Earth, Mortal Online
The noob formally not known as not being the formally not unkown known APEist; The Stone Cold Killer of Tarq.
Don't take my word for it, read it and weep. Or don't read it and simply take my word for it. Either way, I am correct.
what does this video prove anyway? many accuse him he can easly stage a battle make it look normal and resume doing his dirty deeds. Hackers never wanna get caught and hes a well know ass hat. think 1 vid of a duel is gonna prove innocence. hahahahahahhahah.
Shuyin Hail (the guy who got beat twice) has an ego the size of Asia... trust me, he would NEVER purposefully get beaten.
Bleh dont waste your breath with that guy , hes obiously a big troll
Watching Fanbois drop their soap in a prison full of desperate men.
I don't play the game yet, but how do you do that move where it looks like you jump away just as you turn again with your bow to shoot? There was a period there where that seemed like it threw him off.
Anyway he was very melee oriented and you were very missile oriented, so maybe he should have found some trees or something 8)
Were only having the debate about the "5% speed hack" because its pretty dammned obvious that modifed clients are plenty in DF. Interesting that "5%" is used not a larger amount but I predicted that the next wave of cheaters will be more subtle. Its pretty obvious AV cannot do anything meaningful to solve this problem (or anything else). Also the combat is in heavy armour.. stupily fast. So much for armour and weight being a factor eh ? Nice to see DF dumbed down gameplay once again.
Anyways video "joke" is in poor taste given DF major problem with security. Heck even the fanbots are trolling there own game now. Though I am beginning to think Javac doesn't like this game at all and is doing this for teh lulz.
cheats are not widespread, that's crap. i have been playing since beta and i've only seen 1 speedhacker and that was weeks ago.
even the cheat sites say that not many people are doing it.
the "problem" is the same problem in every game since the damn of time: shit players accusing the game of not requiring skill and/or accusing other better players of cheating cause they suck.
Sadly, some of us got to beta test Darkfall Online. The PvP is a joke, it takes no real skill what so ever. I think that is the reason some people playing Darkfall Online think they are hardcore. The game is easy mode like the special olympics, everyone is a winner. The video posted by the op just shows what I am talking about. Any 10 year old kid playing WoW can run, click and jump just like the 1v1 video. What is even more funny is all the people hacking Darkfall Online to win a fight.
Sadly, some of us got to beta test Darkfall Online. The PvP is a joke for someone who has no real skill what so ever. The video posted by the op just shows what I am talking about. Any 10 year old kid playing WoW can run, click and jump and lose most of their fights horribly and then blame the game for why they suck. What is even more funny is all the people making excuses why they lost a fight.
Fixed that for you. Suppose you complain that FPS takes no skill either? /boggle
ps: obvious skill-less apologists are obviously skill-less.
Sadly, some of us got to beta test Darkfall Online. The PvP is a joke, it takes no real skill what so ever. I think that is the reason some people playing Darkfall Online think they are hardcore. The game is easy mode like the special olympics, everyone is a winner. The video posted by the op just shows what I am talking about. Any 10 year old kid playing WoW can run, click and jump just like the 1v1 video. What is even more funny is all the people hacking Darkfall Online to win a fight.
Fixed that for you. Suppose you complain that FPS takes no skill either? /boggle
ps: obvious skill-less apologists are obviously skill-less.
I know I hurt your feelings, the truth hurts. Call me a carebear for not playing a carebear mmo like darkfall online? please....
cheats are not widespread, that's crap. i have been playing since beta and i've only seen 1 speedhacker and that was weeks ago.
even the cheat sites say that not many people are doing it.
the "problem" is the same problem in every game since the damn of time: shit players accusing the game of not requiring skill and/or accusing other better players of cheating cause they suck.
I beg to differ this game is so badly coded that some of the hacks you dont even need to use a hack to get a similar effect.
dont belive me. you to www.google.com and type in darkfall hacks the 1st site posted actually shows exploits.
2 of them is the swimming under the world exploit and the other is the mount exploit.
the swimming one has a video on how badly programmed darkfall really is and does show that the dev team did little to cover up these exploitable areas. maybe because their inteligent ais were better than actualy beta testers (gfaw)
the video shows how the player finds a seam in the water, where the beach ends leaves a hole before touching the under water floor. this space you can swim thru it placing you under the world. Infact there are lots of places like this unreported. People can legitly go under the world and gank so even if the devs had a way to see whos hacking or not, this slips under the radar.
The other exploit has to do with manipulating your mount. it seems it bugs out and when you dismount you have mount speed and no stam loss without the aid of hacks.
In forumfall for every 1 person that claims the game is hax, exploitable free 10 players claim its the other way around. Its hard to know whos telling the truth. How can we belive a fanboy who claims the game is perfect when you can find tons of things that are not.
One of the biggest factors to belive this game is hacked heavy is the fact that to much data is saved client side. That kills any type of game that offers multiplayer. Games that save all the info server side can be hacked but it takes a pro, someone who prob programs for a living or loves to dmg other peoples creation. Games with client side data can be hacked by someone with little skill and are a joke for real hackers.
Idiots are the ones who use speed hacks or teleport to gain an advantage, they always want to win or grief.
the good hackers will use their hacks when no one is around or the ones that are undetected like the one that turns off all the textures so you can see people from afar ect , they will also die to take off any suspicion that they cheat.
Watching Fanbois drop their soap in a prison full of desperate men.
---------- "Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
cheats are not widespread, that's crap. i have been playing since beta and i've only seen 1 speedhacker and that was weeks ago.
even the cheat sites say that not many people are doing it.
the "problem" is the same problem in every game since the damn of time: shit players accusing the game of not requiring skill and/or accusing other better players of cheating cause they suck.
I beg to differ this game is so badly coded that some of the hacks you dont even need to use a hack to get a similar effect.
they're called bugs.
and all new MMOs have them. even mature MMOs like WOW, EVE, etc introduce exploitable bugs with every new content patch. hell, WOW and EVE have some exploits that *still* work after 5 years of being out...
cheats are not widespread, that's crap. i have been playing since beta and i've only seen 1 speedhacker and that was weeks ago.
even the cheat sites say that not many people are doing it.
the "problem" is the same problem in every game since the damn of time: shit players accusing the game of not requiring skill and/or accusing other better players of cheating cause they suck.
I beg to differ this game is so badly coded that some of the hacks you dont even need to use a hack to get a similar effect.
they're called bugs.
and all new MMOs have them. even mature MMOs like WOW, EVE, etc introduce exploitable bugs with every new content patch. hell, WOW and EVE have some exploits that *still* work after 5 years of being out...
naive reply was naive.
You really need some perspective. Really.
---------- "Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
No, it's actually a special attack, called 'whirlwind'.
Pays to actually play a game before trashing its melee system, {mod edit}
So, they simply included one of the old quake macros into the combat system, and your still saying it takes skill, when even the most basic of attacks first used almost a decade ago, is automated.
Sweet!
---------- "Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
I usually tell people DFs combat system is like CoD. Only leftclick and it "takes no skill". Anyone can just run around in circles and spam LMB and they will win every fight! If they understand im using sarcasm..then they are ready to play.
Maybe people that never have played a FPS cant understand the difference towars the usually used locked target spamming "abilitys" combat system we see in other PvE MMOs. So naturally they will whine and say this is easy, compared to the other.....
But i didnt get how the archer could get so much airtime?? Did he use the knockback, or something??
No, it's actually a special attack, called 'whirlwind'.
Pays to actually play a game before trashing its melee system, {mod edit}
So, they simply included one of the old quake macros into the combat system, and your still saying it takes skill, when even the most basic of attacks first used almost a decade ago, is automated.
it's "you're" btw, short for "you are".
have you even played a MMO before? all MMOs have special attacks, duh.
I usually tell people DFs combat system is like CoD. Only leftclick and it "takes no skill". Anyone can just run around in circles and spam LMB and they will win every fight! If they understand im using sarcasm..then they are ready to play. Maybe people that never have played a FPS cant understand the difference towars the usually used locked target spamming "abilitys" combat system we see in other PvE MMOs. So naturally they will whine and say this is easy, compared to the other..... But i didnt get how the archer could get so much airtime?? Did he use the knockback, or something??
yep, just like how all FPS games ever made "take no skill because they use left click". hilarious.
I usually tell people DFs combat system is like CoD. Only leftclick and it "takes no skill". Anyone can just run around in circles and spam LMB and they will win every fight! If they understand im using sarcasm..then they are ready to play. Maybe people that never have played a FPS cant understand the difference towars the usually used locked target spamming "abilitys" combat system we see in other PvE MMOs. So naturally they will whine and say this is easy, compared to the other..... But i didnt get how the archer could get so much airtime?? Did he use the knockback, or something??
He has a turn macro that will insta turn him 180, It will give you about 1 or 2 seconds extra time vs turning the 180 yourself after a jump.
That's why it looks like he has alot of air time he wastes no time in the turning process and can spend it all just aiming at his target.
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No, it's actually a special attack, called 'whirlwind'.
Pays to actually play a game before trashing its melee system {mod edit}
dude your wrong, He is using a 180 turn macro it's clear just by watching the video and I really need to get myself one.
He was not talking about whirlwind, which ky ky also uses.
Just as I thought. Not knowing the names of the skills, i took his word for it. But i knew it was the 180 macro. It was also, technically cheating in Quake, as well as frowned upon as it was the tool of the unskilled.
---------- "Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
Comments
Yeah right and we should take your word for it
/double sigh
Here is the thread the video was posted in:
forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php
And that thread was in response to another thread, where a bunch of accusations were tossed around:
forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php
Don't take my word for it, read it and weep. Or don't read it and simply take my word for it. Either way, I am correct.
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Games looking forward to: Fallen Earth, Mortal Online
The noob formally not known as not being the formally not unkown known APEist; The Stone Cold Killer of Tarq.
That fight looked tediously boring.
This game still lacks fun, skill--based combat. Not spam.
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Yeah right and we should take your word for it
/double sigh
Here is the thread the video was posted in:
forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php
And that thread was in response to another thread, where a bunch of accusations were tossed around:
forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php
Don't take my word for it, read it and weep. Or don't read it and simply take my word for it. Either way, I am correct.
what does this video prove anyway? many accuse him he can easly stage a battle make it look normal and resume doing his dirty deeds. Hackers never wanna get caught and hes a well know ass hat. think 1 vid of a duel is gonna prove innocence. hahahahahahhahah.
Im going to sell you a dream.
Yeah right and we should take your word for it
/double sigh
Here is the thread the video was posted in:
forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php
And that thread was in response to another thread, where a bunch of accusations were tossed around:
forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php
Don't take my word for it, read it and weep. Or don't read it and simply take my word for it. Either way, I am correct.
what does this video prove anyway? many accuse him he can easly stage a battle make it look normal and resume doing his dirty deeds. Hackers never wanna get caught and hes a well know ass hat. think 1 vid of a duel is gonna prove innocence. hahahahahahhahah.
Shuyin Hail (the guy who got beat twice) has an ego the size of Asia... trust me, he would NEVER purposefully get beaten.
_______________________________________________
Games looking forward to: Fallen Earth, Mortal Online
The noob formally not known as not being the formally not unkown known APEist; The Stone Cold Killer of Tarq.
Yeah right and we should take your word for it
/double sigh
Here is the thread the video was posted in:
forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php
And that thread was in response to another thread, where a bunch of accusations were tossed around:
forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php
Don't take my word for it, read it and weep. Or don't read it and simply take my word for it. Either way, I am correct.
what does this video prove anyway? many accuse him he can easly stage a battle make it look normal and resume doing his dirty deeds. Hackers never wanna get caught and hes a well know ass hat. think 1 vid of a duel is gonna prove innocence. hahahahahahhahah.
Shuyin Hail (the guy who got beat twice) has an ego the size of Asia... trust me, he would NEVER purposefully get beaten.
Bleh dont waste your breath with that guy , hes obiously a big troll
Watching Fanbois drop their soap in a prison full of desperate men.
1:20 the guy on the horse that rides by is named Rick Roll.
I enjoyed both the video and the music.
I don't play the game yet, but how do you do that move where it looks like you jump away just as you turn again with your bow to shoot? There was a period there where that seemed like it threw him off.
Anyway he was very melee oriented and you were very missile oriented, so maybe he should have found some trees or something 8)
Were only having the debate about the "5% speed hack" because its pretty dammned obvious that modifed clients are plenty in DF. Interesting that "5%" is used not a larger amount but I predicted that the next wave of cheaters will be more subtle. Its pretty obvious AV cannot do anything meaningful to solve this problem (or anything else). Also the combat is in heavy armour.. stupily fast. So much for armour and weight being a factor eh ? Nice to see DF dumbed down gameplay once again.
Anyways video "joke" is in poor taste given DF major problem with security. Heck even the fanbots are trolling there own game now. Though I am beginning to think Javac doesn't like this game at all and is doing this for teh lulz.
cheats are not widespread, that's crap. i have been playing since beta and i've only seen 1 speedhacker and that was weeks ago.
even the cheat sites say that not many people are doing it.
the "problem" is the same problem in every game since the damn of time: shit players accusing the game of not requiring skill and/or accusing other better players of cheating cause they suck.
Sadly, some of us got to beta test Darkfall Online. The PvP is a joke, it takes no real skill what so ever. I think that is the reason some people playing Darkfall Online think they are hardcore. The game is easy mode like the special olympics, everyone is a winner. The video posted by the op just shows what I am talking about. Any 10 year old kid playing WoW can run, click and jump just like the 1v1 video. What is even more funny is all the people hacking Darkfall Online to win a fight.
Fixed that for you. Suppose you complain that FPS takes no skill either? /boggle
ps: obvious skill-less apologists are obviously skill-less.
Fixed that for you. Suppose you complain that FPS takes no skill either? /boggle
ps: obvious skill-less apologists are obviously skill-less.
I know I hurt your feelings, the truth hurts. Call me a carebear for not playing a carebear mmo like darkfall online? please....
I beg to differ this game is so badly coded that some of the hacks you dont even need to use a hack to get a similar effect.
dont belive me. you to www.google.com and type in darkfall hacks the 1st site posted actually shows exploits.
2 of them is the swimming under the world exploit and the other is the mount exploit.
the swimming one has a video on how badly programmed darkfall really is and does show that the dev team did little to cover up these exploitable areas. maybe because their inteligent ais were better than actualy beta testers (gfaw)
the video shows how the player finds a seam in the water, where the beach ends leaves a hole before touching the under water floor. this space you can swim thru it placing you under the world. Infact there are lots of places like this unreported. People can legitly go under the world and gank so even if the devs had a way to see whos hacking or not, this slips under the radar.
The other exploit has to do with manipulating your mount. it seems it bugs out and when you dismount you have mount speed and no stam loss without the aid of hacks.
In forumfall for every 1 person that claims the game is hax, exploitable free 10 players claim its the other way around. Its hard to know whos telling the truth. How can we belive a fanboy who claims the game is perfect when you can find tons of things that are not.
One of the biggest factors to belive this game is hacked heavy is the fact that to much data is saved client side. That kills any type of game that offers multiplayer. Games that save all the info server side can be hacked but it takes a pro, someone who prob programs for a living or loves to dmg other peoples creation. Games with client side data can be hacked by someone with little skill and are a joke for real hackers.
Idiots are the ones who use speed hacks or teleport to gain an advantage, they always want to win or grief.
the good hackers will use their hacks when no one is around or the ones that are undetected like the one that turns off all the textures so you can see people from afar ect , they will also die to take off any suspicion that they cheat.
Watching Fanbois drop their soap in a prison full of desperate men.
it looks like they were using the old quake macro with the spin 180 shoot. That, and this is simply a really bad Melee system.
How about a real Melee combat system that takes skill?
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"No, your wrong.." - Random user #123
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
How are you?" -Me
I beg to differ this game is so badly coded that some of the hacks you dont even need to use a hack to get a similar effect.
they're called bugs.
and all new MMOs have them. even mature MMOs like WOW, EVE, etc introduce exploitable bugs with every new content patch. hell, WOW and EVE have some exploits that *still* work after 5 years of being out...
naive reply was naive.
I beg to differ this game is so badly coded that some of the hacks you dont even need to use a hack to get a similar effect.
they're called bugs.
and all new MMOs have them. even mature MMOs like WOW, EVE, etc introduce exploitable bugs with every new content patch. hell, WOW and EVE have some exploits that *still* work after 5 years of being out...
naive reply was naive.
You really need some perspective. Really.
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"Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"No, your wrong.." - Random user #123
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
How are you?" -Me
it looks like they were using the old quake macro with the spin 180 shoot. That, and this is simply a really bad Melee system.
How about a real Melee combat system that takes skill?
No, it's actually a special attack, called 'whirlwind'.
Pays to actually play a game before trashing its melee system {mod edit}
He must have cut out the 15 minute chase scene that was prior to the fight........
it looks like they were using the old quake macro with the spin 180 shoot. That, and this is simply a really bad Melee system.
How about a real Melee combat system that takes skill?
No, it's actually a special attack, called 'whirlwind'.
Pays to actually play a game before trashing its melee system, {mod edit}
So, they simply included one of the old quake macros into the combat system, and your still saying it takes skill, when even the most basic of attacks first used almost a decade ago, is automated.
Sweet!
----------
"Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"No, your wrong.." - Random user #123
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
How are you?" -Me
I usually tell people DFs combat system is like CoD. Only leftclick and it "takes no skill". Anyone can just run around in circles and spam LMB and they will win every fight! If they understand im using sarcasm..then they are ready to play.
Maybe people that never have played a FPS cant understand the difference towars the usually used locked target spamming "abilitys" combat system we see in other PvE MMOs. So naturally they will whine and say this is easy, compared to the other.....
But i didnt get how the archer could get so much airtime?? Did he use the knockback, or something??
it looks like they were using the old quake macro with the spin 180 shoot. That, and this is simply a really bad Melee system.
How about a real Melee combat system that takes skill?
No, it's actually a special attack, called 'whirlwind'.
Pays to actually play a game before trashing its melee system, {mod edit}
So, they simply included one of the old quake macros into the combat system, and your still saying it takes skill, when even the most basic of attacks first used almost a decade ago, is automated.
it's "you're" btw, short for "you are".
have you even played a MMO before? all MMOs have special attacks, duh.
yep, just like how all FPS games ever made "take no skill because they use left click". hilarious.
it looks like they were using the old quake macro with the spin 180 shoot. That, and this is simply a really bad Melee system.
How about a real Melee combat system that takes skill?
No, it's actually a special attack, called 'whirlwind'.
Pays to actually play a game before trashing its melee system {mod edit}
dude your wrong, He is using a 180 turn macro it's clear just by watching the video and I really need to get myself one.
He was not talking about whirlwind, which ky ky also uses.
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He has a turn macro that will insta turn him 180, It will give you about 1 or 2 seconds extra time vs turning the 180 yourself after a jump.
That's why it looks like he has alot of air time he wastes no time in the turning process and can spend it all just aiming at his target.
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Achiever 20.00%, Explorer 86.67%, Killer 60.00%, Socializer 33.33%
EKSA
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it looks like they were using the old quake macro with the spin 180 shoot. That, and this is simply a really bad Melee system.
How about a real Melee combat system that takes skill?
No, it's actually a special attack, called 'whirlwind'.
Pays to actually play a game before trashing its melee system {mod edit}
dude your wrong, He is using a 180 turn macro it's clear just by watching the video and I really need to get myself one.
He was not talking about whirlwind, which ky ky also uses.
Just as I thought. Not knowing the names of the skills, i took his word for it. But i knew it was the 180 macro. It was also, technically cheating in Quake, as well as frowned upon as it was the tool of the unskilled.
----------
"Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"No, your wrong.." - Random user #123
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
How are you?" -Me