Maybe we can make a whole new section entitled --- "sort of released but limited supply and artfical demand because we didn't think people would want to play our 'niche' game ane we just released before MO comes out with zero idea on what infastrucure is need to run the game but its ok because were like the best PVP FFA game ever " ?
Not snappy ? Oh how I love this game with glee....
Since the game is NOT available to the general public then I would say it is NOT released and even their own front page shows no sign of it going gold. The best way to describe it as being in beta but you have to pay to get the privelege to test it.
So you're going to leave me irritated like this? Not even bother to make an extra link after changing your bloody site again? I knew you bastards were just a bunch of sadists taking peverse and twisted pleasure in watching me suffer!
What? What extra link and changes are you talking about, specifically?
Perhaps this will help, a simple picture can make it all so much easier to understand:
If MMORPG.com consider Darkfall to be released, then why is it not in this list?
Edit: You already answered this though, I missed it at first, and I think Argicola1 is still missing it too, so here it goes again:
Quote from Stradden:
I did, however, notice that it hasn't been put into the released games forum list. That can't possibly be the criteria you're using though as the Released Games Forum List is by no means comprehensive and complete.
So looking at that list I guess even if a game is cancelled and has been dead for over 6 months (DnL for example), since it released at one time it remains on there?
Interesting, I didn't know that DnL was still considered a popular game!!!
I have to agree, with all the changes to this site, you'd think they'd update this list a bit and remove chafe like DnL, Shadowbane and others.
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It seems Darkfall is now listed under "released games" under the "popular game forums". So once again we have witnessed the power of Stradden. This makes navigating alot easier for lazy basement dwellers such as myself
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"
It seems Darkfall is now listed under "released games" under the "popular game forums". So once again we have witnessed the power of Stradden. This makes navigating alot easier for lazy basement dwellers such as myself
Imo this is wrong. How can a game be released but not available for purchase by the general public? Is it a closed release or what?
It seems Darkfall is now listed under "released games" under the "popular game forums". So once again we have witnessed the power of Stradden. This makes navigating alot easier for lazy basement dwellers such as myself
Imo this is wrong. How can a game be released but not available for purchase by the general public? Is it a closed release or what?
i would have to agree.....the game is not fully released....since you can just walk into a store and purchase it nor purchase it digitally at a moments whim.
DF is one of a few games that have had these wierd releases that have been kinda released but not really but sorta.
If a game is released I should be able to walk into a store and pick up a box, or alternatively be able to make an account, download the game and begin playing. It's frustrating to hear a game is released but you can't play it.
People are assuming (wrongly) that "released" means the same as "available to anyone and everyone who wants to buy it". This is seldom the case, as people who live in remote regions will attest to. Moreover it is quite common with other published material (or indeed almost any kind of consumer item) for a "limited edition" style release... whether it's a short run publication of an obscure book, a few hundred copies of a debut CD, a high end custom sports car, tickets to a concert, there are plenty examples of this being a common market practice. In all these cases however, you would not argue that the particular products had not been released *at all* simply because you weren't able to get one.
Needless to say that this limited form of release usually occurs where the creator/publisher does not believe that a large enough market exists for the product to warrant the costly gamble of a full, unlimited release. Whether due to lack of resources, small size of market, an attempt to add a 'premium' value to the product, most likely all of these to varying degrees, Aventurine has chosen to go with a limited release... but a release nonetheless. It may never be clear whether this tactic will pay off in revenue for Aventurine (if indeed they even had any choice, which I doubt), but if nothing else it's certainly something that keeps their forums here on high activity. For better or worse.
RV had a limited release but even that was larger than DF I believe. Myself I don't consider it released, this is just my opinion and MMORPG.com has a different one. I'm not sure what's stopping Aventurine from renting some servers and doing a full release. I feel it's a combination of lack of finances and any sort of proper testing, resulting in the semi closed beta state the game is in right now. What is worrying is that DFO seems to be going nowhere fast, Aventurine seem to be doing nothing at all and I suspect this is due to a lack of manpower which has always been the curse of Aventurine.
Will this game ever get to a real release state before the Aventurine ship goes under? I'm not sure myself.
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"
Here's the problem of it all! Why are we discussing if its been released or not? This a complete failure of Adventurine/Razorwax as as far as business handling is concerned. This shouldve been a full release with couple hundred thousand trying it out instead just couple thousand.
.....and the drama of this very poorly run game continues.....
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People are assuming (wrongly) that "released" means the same as "available to anyone and everyone who wants to buy it". This is seldom the case, as people who live in remote regions will attest to. Moreover it is quite common with other published material (or indeed almost any kind of consumer item) for a "limited edition" style release... whether it's a short run publication of an obscure book, a few hundred copies of a debut CD, a high end custom sports car, tickets to a concert, there are plenty examples of this being a common market practice. In all these cases however, you would not argue that the particular products had not been released *at all* simply because you weren't able to get one. Needless to say that this limited form of release usually occurs where the creator/publisher does not believe that a large enough market exists for the product to warrant the costly gamble of a full, unlimited release. Whether due to lack of resources, small size of market, an attempt to add a 'premium' value to the product, most likely all of these to varying degrees, Aventurine has chosen to go with a limited release... but a release nonetheless. It may never be clear whether this tactic will pay off in revenue for Aventurine (if indeed they even had any choice, which I doubt), but if nothing else it's certainly something that keeps their forums here on high activity. For better or worse.
The United States can hardly be considered a 'remote' region though.
And comparing an MMO to some other limited release item is kind of like apples and oranges here. If a limited number of items is released, you can expect the value to go up. A sculpture run of 100 for instance will most likely increase in value as fewer of them are left to purchase and they become more rare. DF is not limiting subs to increase the sub rate, so that people joining now are paying more than people who joined initially.
I think it's most likely a case of not having enough resources.
yeah i been watching the developement of this game, and since early april...the games developement seems to have just died. There was one fix on the 16th, but not much news after. The way AV is handling this game is absolutely horrid. The game has alot going for it, but AV will be the death of it. The limited "release" is killing it most. MMORPGs, whether popular or not, need a constant flux of people joining to remain viable. Even if say 100 quit a week, and 100 sales open a week, an mmorpg will dwindle, because after launch people play actively less and less (as a majority, yes i know people will argue "but miagi i still play 8 hours a day!"). Mmorpgs need a constant influx of subs, limiting that is just shooting itself in the foot.
RV had a limited release but even that was larger than DF I believe. Myself I don't consider it released, this is just my opinion and MMORPG.com has a different one. I'm not sure what's stopping Aventurine from renting some servers and doing a full release. I feel it's a combination of lack of finances and any sort of proper testing, resulting in the semi closed beta state the game is in right now. What is worrying is that DFO seems to be going nowhere fast, Aventurine seem to be doing nothing at all and I suspect this is due to a lack of manpower which has always been the curse of Aventurine. Will this game ever get to a real release state before the Aventurine ship goes under? I'm not sure myself.
How many limited software releases can you think of which benefited the software? RV is an excellent example on how a limited software release has hurt the product.
People are assuming (wrongly) that "released" means the same as "available to anyone and everyone who wants to buy it". This is seldom the case, as people who live in remote regions will attest to. Moreover it is quite common with other published material (or indeed almost any kind of consumer item) for a "limited edition" style release... whether it's a short run publication of an obscure book, a few hundred copies of a debut CD, a high end custom sports car, tickets to a concert, there are plenty examples of this being a common market practice. In all these cases however, you would not argue that the particular products had not been released *at all* simply because you weren't able to get one. Needless to say that this limited form of release usually occurs where the creator/publisher does not believe that a large enough market exists for the product to warrant the costly gamble of a full, unlimited release. Whether due to lack of resources, small size of market, an attempt to add a 'premium' value to the product, most likely all of these to varying degrees, Aventurine has chosen to go with a limited release... but a release nonetheless. It may never be clear whether this tactic will pay off in revenue for Aventurine (if indeed they even had any choice, which I doubt), but if nothing else it's certainly something that keeps their forums here on high activity. For better or worse.
The reason people assume that released mean publicly available is because, if you live in a civilized part of the world, that is most often the case. I have played over 20 MMORPGs since UO and only one of them, WoW, had sold out copies and that was because people bought houndreds of thousands of copies in the first few days of release.
Darkfall however have ONE server which means they have sold maybe 30-40k copies in what, 2 months? That is very odd indeed unless they are having financial dificulties, preventing them starting new servers or that the game is in fact still in beta and they just want to get some cash flowing while finishing their game. I would say the latter one is most likely.
Your examplanation that they don't belive in large enough market is highly unlikely because if that was the case then copies wouldnt be sold out in like 10 mins after opening up the shop. The demand is there however for some reason Adventurine is not going for a full release.
People are assuming (wrongly) that "released" means the same as "available to anyone and everyone who wants to buy it". This is seldom the case, as people who live in remote regions will attest to. Moreover it is quite common with other published material (or indeed almost any kind of consumer item) for a "limited edition" style release... whether it's a short run publication of an obscure book, a few hundred copies of a debut CD, a high end custom sports car, tickets to a concert, there are plenty examples of this being a common market practice. In all these cases however, you would not argue that the particular products had not been released *at all* simply because you weren't able to get one. Needless to say that this limited form of release usually occurs where the creator/publisher does not believe that a large enough market exists for the product to warrant the costly gamble of a full, unlimited release. Whether due to lack of resources, small size of market, an attempt to add a 'premium' value to the product, most likely all of these to varying degrees, Aventurine has chosen to go with a limited release... but a release nonetheless. It may never be clear whether this tactic will pay off in revenue for Aventurine (if indeed they even had any choice, which I doubt), but if nothing else it's certainly something that keeps their forums here on high activity. For better or worse.
The reason people assume that released mean publicly available is because, if you live in a civilized part of the world, that is most often the case. I have played over 20 MMORPGs since UO and only one of them, WoW, had sold out copies and that was because people bought houndreds of thousands of copies in the first few days of release.
Darkfall however have ONE server which means they have sold maybe 30-40k copies in what, 2 months? That is very odd indeed unless they are having financial dificulties, preventing them starting new servers or that the game is in fact still in beta and they just want to get some cash flowing while finishing their game. I would say the latter one is most likely.
Your examplanation that they don't belive in large enough market is highly unlikely because if that was the case then copies wouldnt be sold out in like 10 mins after opening up the shop. The demand is there however for some reason Adventurine is not going for a full release.
The churn rate in Darkfall is very high and that is with only the most dedicated people getting in. If DF had a full release, and filled 4 servers with 'anyone'.. the churn rate would be huge and those servers would be shut down right away.
I think AV is watching the churn rate and knows that in a month, it will have a hard time even keeping 1 server full. If the game had a stable playerbase and really had this huge demand, they would be able to get financing to open up more servers.
People are assuming (wrongly) that "released" means the same as "available to anyone and everyone who wants to buy it". This is seldom the case, as people who live in remote regions will attest to. Moreover it is quite common with other published material (or indeed almost any kind of consumer item) for a "limited edition" style release... whether it's a short run publication of an obscure book, a few hundred copies of a debut CD, a high end custom sports car, tickets to a concert, there are plenty examples of this being a common market practice. In all these cases however, you would not argue that the particular products had not been released *at all* simply because you weren't able to get one. Needless to say that this limited form of release usually occurs where the creator/publisher does not believe that a large enough market exists for the product to warrant the costly gamble of a full, unlimited release. Whether due to lack of resources, small size of market, an attempt to add a 'premium' value to the product, most likely all of these to varying degrees, Aventurine has chosen to go with a limited release... but a release nonetheless. It may never be clear whether this tactic will pay off in revenue for Aventurine (if indeed they even had any choice, which I doubt), but if nothing else it's certainly something that keeps their forums here on high activity. For better or worse.
The reason people assume that released mean publicly available is because, if you live in a civilized part of the world, that is most often the case. I have played over 20 MMORPGs since UO and only one of them, WoW, had sold out copies and that was because people bought houndreds of thousands of copies in the first few days of release.
Darkfall however have ONE server which means they have sold maybe 30-40k copies in what, 2 months? That is very odd indeed unless they are having financial dificulties, preventing them starting new servers or that the game is in fact still in beta and they just want to get some cash flowing while finishing their game. I would say the latter one is most likely.
Your examplanation that they don't belive in large enough market is highly unlikely because if that was the case then copies wouldnt be sold out in like 10 mins after opening up the shop. The demand is there however for some reason Adventurine is not going for a full release.
It is a one server, one world game. This was Aventurines' battle cry from the very beginning. There will be no more servers unless Aventurine wants to admit failure on their biggest promise.
Now if you mean add another component to the server cluster to relieve some load, then they could do that. And if they can't even afford to manage to do that, either they don't really care if the game succeeds because they don't plan to stick around, or Aventurine wasted what little sub money they got and they are broke.
Personally, either one works for me at this point.
As far as release goes, I will say this for the million and 1st time.
They opened the shop.
They sold accounts.
People logged in on the accounts they just paid for.
At that moment, the game was RELEASED. I don't care if you call it a limited release, a strategic release, or its more common title of fucked up release by idiot amateurs. Key word is RELEASED.
It's really sad watching fanbots in the numerous threads of this same subject that have been posted ever since RELEASE cling to the "it's not really released" bullshit. Running out of ways to defend ths shithole boys. Might want to forget strategic releases, and start planning strategic withdrawal.
You can still sign up for the beta of darkfall on the official site. That pretty much answers the question.
Will people ever stop saying that? This is not true and has not been true for at least a month.
Yet I see it thrown around a lot by many people (I want to use the t-word but I'd rather not) even to this date.
How about the next time you make such a claim take 3 seconds of your life and check up on it.
If I'm wrong, please someone post the link.
People will still say Darkfall is in beta as long as on the game's main page you see, Beta first impressions and first wave of invites goes out.
Since there is no statement on Darkfalls main page that states game is released. It is safe to assume that the average gamer looking to try or purchase the game would think it is still in beta.
You can still sign up for the beta of darkfall on the official site. That pretty much answers the question.
Will people ever stop saying that? This is not true and has not been true for at least a month.
Yet I see it thrown around a lot by many people (I want to use the t-word but I'd rather not) even to this date.
How about the next time you make such a claim take 3 seconds of your life and check up on it.
If I'm wrong, please someone post the link.
People will still say Darkfall is in beta as long as on the game's main page you see, Beta first impressions and first wave of invites goes out.
Since there is no statement on Darkfalls main page that states game is released. It is safe to assume that the average gamer looking to try or purchase the game would think it is still in beta.
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Maybe we can make a whole new section entitled --- "sort of released but limited supply and artfical demand because we didn't think people would want to play our 'niche' game ane we just released before MO comes out with zero idea on what infastrucure is need to run the game but its ok because were like the best PVP FFA game ever " ?
Not snappy ? Oh how I love this game with glee....
Since the game is NOT available to the general public then I would say it is NOT released and even their own front page shows no sign of it going gold. The best way to describe it as being in beta but you have to pay to get the privelege to test it.
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The game is a paid Beta. No such category exists so it's in limbo.
So technically it's still vaporware LOL
What? What extra link and changes are you talking about, specifically?
Perhaps this will help, a simple picture can make it all so much easier to understand:
If MMORPG.com consider Darkfall to be released, then why is it not in this list?
Edit: You already answered this though, I missed it at first, and I think Argicola1 is still missing it too, so here it goes again:
Quote from Stradden:
I did, however, notice that it hasn't been put into the released games forum list. That can't possibly be the criteria you're using though as the Released Games Forum List is by no means comprehensive and complete.
So looking at that list I guess even if a game is cancelled and has been dead for over 6 months (DnL for example), since it released at one time it remains on there?
Interesting, I didn't know that DnL was still considered a popular game!!!
I have to agree, with all the changes to this site, you'd think they'd update this list a bit and remove chafe like DnL, Shadowbane and others.
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It seems Darkfall is now listed under "released games" under the "popular game forums". So once again we have witnessed the power of Stradden. This makes navigating alot easier for lazy basement dwellers such as myself
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CS Lewis
Imo this is wrong. How can a game be released but not available for purchase by the general public? Is it a closed release or what?
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Imo this is wrong. How can a game be released but not available for purchase by the general public? Is it a closed release or what?
i would have to agree.....the game is not fully released....since you can just walk into a store and purchase it nor purchase it digitally at a moments whim.
Shop is open tomorrow. Does not state that it will only be for a few people like all the other times.
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DF is one of a few games that have had these wierd releases that have been kinda released but not really but sorta.
If a game is released I should be able to walk into a store and pick up a box, or alternatively be able to make an account, download the game and begin playing. It's frustrating to hear a game is released but you can't play it.
You can still sign up for the beta of darkfall on the official site. That pretty much answers the question.
People are assuming (wrongly) that "released" means the same as "available to anyone and everyone who wants to buy it". This is seldom the case, as people who live in remote regions will attest to. Moreover it is quite common with other published material (or indeed almost any kind of consumer item) for a "limited edition" style release... whether it's a short run publication of an obscure book, a few hundred copies of a debut CD, a high end custom sports car, tickets to a concert, there are plenty examples of this being a common market practice. In all these cases however, you would not argue that the particular products had not been released *at all* simply because you weren't able to get one.
Needless to say that this limited form of release usually occurs where the creator/publisher does not believe that a large enough market exists for the product to warrant the costly gamble of a full, unlimited release. Whether due to lack of resources, small size of market, an attempt to add a 'premium' value to the product, most likely all of these to varying degrees, Aventurine has chosen to go with a limited release... but a release nonetheless. It may never be clear whether this tactic will pay off in revenue for Aventurine (if indeed they even had any choice, which I doubt), but if nothing else it's certainly something that keeps their forums here on high activity. For better or worse.
RV had a limited release but even that was larger than DF I believe. Myself I don't consider it released, this is just my opinion and MMORPG.com has a different one. I'm not sure what's stopping Aventurine from renting some servers and doing a full release. I feel it's a combination of lack of finances and any sort of proper testing, resulting in the semi closed beta state the game is in right now. What is worrying is that DFO seems to be going nowhere fast, Aventurine seem to be doing nothing at all and I suspect this is due to a lack of manpower which has always been the curse of Aventurine.
Will this game ever get to a real release state before the Aventurine ship goes under? I'm not sure myself.
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"
CS Lewis
Here's the problem of it all! Why are we discussing if its been released or not? This a complete failure of Adventurine/Razorwax as as far as business handling is concerned. This shouldve been a full release with couple hundred thousand trying it out instead just couple thousand.
.....and the drama of this very poorly run game continues.....
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The United States can hardly be considered a 'remote' region though.
And comparing an MMO to some other limited release item is kind of like apples and oranges here. If a limited number of items is released, you can expect the value to go up. A sculpture run of 100 for instance will most likely increase in value as fewer of them are left to purchase and they become more rare. DF is not limiting subs to increase the sub rate, so that people joining now are paying more than people who joined initially.
I think it's most likely a case of not having enough resources.
yeah i been watching the developement of this game, and since early april...the games developement seems to have just died. There was one fix on the 16th, but not much news after. The way AV is handling this game is absolutely horrid. The game has alot going for it, but AV will be the death of it. The limited "release" is killing it most. MMORPGs, whether popular or not, need a constant flux of people joining to remain viable. Even if say 100 quit a week, and 100 sales open a week, an mmorpg will dwindle, because after launch people play actively less and less (as a majority, yes i know people will argue "but miagi i still play 8 hours a day!"). Mmorpgs need a constant influx of subs, limiting that is just shooting itself in the foot.
How many limited software releases can you think of which benefited the software? RV is an excellent example on how a limited software release has hurt the product.
The reason people assume that released mean publicly available is because, if you live in a civilized part of the world, that is most often the case. I have played over 20 MMORPGs since UO and only one of them, WoW, had sold out copies and that was because people bought houndreds of thousands of copies in the first few days of release.
Darkfall however have ONE server which means they have sold maybe 30-40k copies in what, 2 months? That is very odd indeed unless they are having financial dificulties, preventing them starting new servers or that the game is in fact still in beta and they just want to get some cash flowing while finishing their game. I would say the latter one is most likely.
Your examplanation that they don't belive in large enough market is highly unlikely because if that was the case then copies wouldnt be sold out in like 10 mins after opening up the shop. The demand is there however for some reason Adventurine is not going for a full release.
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The reason people assume that released mean publicly available is because, if you live in a civilized part of the world, that is most often the case. I have played over 20 MMORPGs since UO and only one of them, WoW, had sold out copies and that was because people bought houndreds of thousands of copies in the first few days of release.
Darkfall however have ONE server which means they have sold maybe 30-40k copies in what, 2 months? That is very odd indeed unless they are having financial dificulties, preventing them starting new servers or that the game is in fact still in beta and they just want to get some cash flowing while finishing their game. I would say the latter one is most likely.
Your examplanation that they don't belive in large enough market is highly unlikely because if that was the case then copies wouldnt be sold out in like 10 mins after opening up the shop. The demand is there however for some reason Adventurine is not going for a full release.
The churn rate in Darkfall is very high and that is with only the most dedicated people getting in. If DF had a full release, and filled 4 servers with 'anyone'.. the churn rate would be huge and those servers would be shut down right away.
I think AV is watching the churn rate and knows that in a month, it will have a hard time even keeping 1 server full. If the game had a stable playerbase and really had this huge demand, they would be able to get financing to open up more servers.
Will people ever stop saying that? This is not true and has not been true for at least a month.
Yet I see it thrown around a lot by many people (I want to use the t-word but I'd rather not) even to this date.
How about the next time you make such a claim take 3 seconds of your life and check up on it.
If I'm wrong, please someone post the link.
The reason people assume that released mean publicly available is because, if you live in a civilized part of the world, that is most often the case. I have played over 20 MMORPGs since UO and only one of them, WoW, had sold out copies and that was because people bought houndreds of thousands of copies in the first few days of release.
Darkfall however have ONE server which means they have sold maybe 30-40k copies in what, 2 months? That is very odd indeed unless they are having financial dificulties, preventing them starting new servers or that the game is in fact still in beta and they just want to get some cash flowing while finishing their game. I would say the latter one is most likely.
Your examplanation that they don't belive in large enough market is highly unlikely because if that was the case then copies wouldnt be sold out in like 10 mins after opening up the shop. The demand is there however for some reason Adventurine is not going for a full release.
@Yamota:
It is a one server, one world game. This was Aventurines' battle cry from the very beginning. There will be no more servers unless Aventurine wants to admit failure on their biggest promise.
Now if you mean add another component to the server cluster to relieve some load, then they could do that. And if they can't even afford to manage to do that, either they don't really care if the game succeeds because they don't plan to stick around, or Aventurine wasted what little sub money they got and they are broke.
Personally, either one works for me at this point.
@everyone it applies to:
As far as release goes, I will say this for the million and 1st time.
They opened the shop.
They sold accounts.
People logged in on the accounts they just paid for.
At that moment, the game was RELEASED. I don't care if you call it a limited release, a strategic release, or its more common title of fucked up release by idiot amateurs. Key word is RELEASED.
It's really sad watching fanbots in the numerous threads of this same subject that have been posted ever since RELEASE cling to the "it's not really released" bullshit. Running out of ways to defend ths shithole boys. Might want to forget strategic releases, and start planning strategic withdrawal.
Will people ever stop saying that? This is not true and has not been true for at least a month.
Yet I see it thrown around a lot by many people (I want to use the t-word but I'd rather not) even to this date.
How about the next time you make such a claim take 3 seconds of your life and check up on it.
If I'm wrong, please someone post the link.
People will still say Darkfall is in beta as long as on the game's main page you see, Beta first impressions and first wave of invites goes out.
Since there is no statement on Darkfalls main page that states game is released. It is safe to assume that the average gamer looking to try or purchase the game would think it is still in beta.
Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.
Will people ever stop saying that? This is not true and has not been true for at least a month.
Yet I see it thrown around a lot by many people (I want to use the t-word but I'd rather not) even to this date.
How about the next time you make such a claim take 3 seconds of your life and check up on it.
If I'm wrong, please someone post the link.
People will still say Darkfall is in beta as long as on the game's main page you see, Beta first impressions and first wave of invites goes out.
Since there is no statement on Darkfalls main page that states game is released. It is safe to assume that the average gamer looking to try or purchase the game would think it is still in beta.
This is not what I quoted.
Nice effort though, try again.
Poor Darkfall will end,
As the spring has to end soon,
Little lost; few mourn.
Who cares? It is a game. If it succeeds cool, if it fails ok then.