Lead Gameplay and Gameworld Designer for a yet unnamed MMO Title. "When people tell me designing a game is easy, I try to get them to design a board game. Most people don't last 5 minutes, the rest rarely last more then a day. The final few realize it's neither fun nor easy."
By far I prefer Asherons Call over all of them, seemless world, no zones, open PvP, random loot, skills and stats that you could manipulate with your experiance. The list is endless of why it was the best.
As with the 3 posts above me. I wager most players will list one of the older MMOs, not the newer mmos. Kinda like Life, your first love is always the best
As with the 3 posts above me. I wager most players will list one of the older MMOs, not the newer mmos. Kinda like Life, your first love is always the best
I beg to differ... my "first love" was a heartless bitch who held out on me for almost a year and then lost her virginity within a week of the breakup.
...and not AFTER the breakup, before hand... and not with me...
- CaesarsGhost
Lead Gameplay and Gameworld Designer for a yet unnamed MMO Title. "When people tell me designing a game is easy, I try to get them to design a board game. Most people don't last 5 minutes, the rest rarely last more then a day. The final few realize it's neither fun nor easy."
Everquest 1. It took the ideas from Meridian 59 and turned them into a playable game and totaly changed the genre. Almost all later games copy its mechanics.
The other 2 runner ups are Meridian and UO, all the games on the list are just polished up verions of older games with a few new features. And possibly Guildwars that evolved from Diablo instead of the MMOs.
To be the best ever you need to do new thinking and do what noone done before and all the games on the list fail with that. I am not saying they not are good but they are to similar to earlier games to be best ever.
Make a list of all new features that a certain game invented and you will see how much more EQ did for the genre compared to all the modern games.
As with the 3 posts above me. I wager most players will list one of the older MMOs, not the newer mmos. Kinda like Life, your first love is always the best
I beg to differ... my "first love" was a heartless bitch who held out on me for almost a year and then lost her virginity within a week of the breakup.
...and not AFTER the breakup, before hand... and not with me...
Could it have been because you were using a 1H weapon instead of a 2H?
I dont see Asherons CAll on there so I think it is not a valid list of the top MMorpg's of all time
Ya I think they meant more like current generation MMO's... you'll notice that Ultima Online and EverQuest 1 aren't on that list either.
The issue is games being subjective etc the best "ever" regardless of generation is based on personal perspective.
For me the best MMO I ever played was Ultima Online in the first 1 to 2 years. SWG being a close 2nd and only 2nd because it was more limited than UO.
So yes obviously what I'd like is a new "open" game that is like UO but expands on everything...
For other people it will obviously be different (or rarely the same ahem).
I mean to be technical the first graphical MMO I played was the beta test of "Habitat" on Quantum Link and at the time it seemed pretty awesome. That was like maybe 1986... and I was using a C64 with if i was lucky 1200 baud modem.. forget when I got the massive upgrade from 300 to 1200.
All the dungeons were located in seperate "instances" accesable via portals that took you through a short loading screen ( oh sweet swirling sound:D ).
The MMO I liked best was the old SSI game The Realm. I really loved the people that played it and made it come alive.
I also loved the graveyard for those that broke the rules and were banded from the game. You could go there and look at thier names on the gravestones and laugh at them if you wanted to.
Originally posted by donjn There must be over a million who say that yet old school UO never had more than 150k subscriptions...
AoC had already been played about more than a million players, not at the same time however. A lot of people tried UO even though it's numbers never were that great. I am pretty sure that about a million would be a good number to the total of players that played UO ever.
Anyways this is not about numbers but what MMO was the best ever. I still vote on EQ myself.
I hate WoW never even played it. However popularity wise and profitability wise it beats everything out there. You cant argue so wow is probably the best when it comes to the real world.
For me the best MMO is FFXI.
Waiting for:EQ-Next, ArcheAge (not so much anymore) Now Playing: N/A Worst MMO: FFXIV Favorite MMO: FFXI
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old school UO owns all of the above!
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- CaesarsGhost
Lead Gameplay and Gameworld Designer for a yet unnamed MMO Title.
"When people tell me designing a game is easy, I try to get them to design a board game. Most people don't last 5 minutes, the rest rarely last more then a day. The final few realize it's neither fun nor easy."
By far I prefer Asherons Call over all of them, seemless world, no zones, open PvP, random loot, skills and stats that you could manipulate with your experiance. The list is endless of why it was the best.
As with the 3 posts above me. I wager most players will list one of the older MMOs, not the newer mmos. Kinda like Life, your first love is always the best
Torrential: DAOC (Pendragon)
Awned: World of Warcraft (Lothar)
Torren: Warhammer Online (Praag)
I beg to differ... my "first love" was a heartless bitch who held out on me for almost a year and then lost her virginity within a week of the breakup.
...and not AFTER the breakup, before hand... and not with me...
- CaesarsGhost
Lead Gameplay and Gameworld Designer for a yet unnamed MMO Title.
"When people tell me designing a game is easy, I try to get them to design a board game. Most people don't last 5 minutes, the rest rarely last more then a day. The final few realize it's neither fun nor easy."
I cant call one MMO the best of all. Lots of MMOs have parts I really like, but no MMO has them all.
EQ2 is the MMO I played most of all, but I would never call it best. I was never a fanboy of any game.
I miss Dark Age Of Camelot.
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The best is really based on player experience. I liked FFXI because of the community and it wasn't a quest grindfest.
Everquest 1. It took the ideas from Meridian 59 and turned them into a playable game and totaly changed the genre. Almost all later games copy its mechanics.
The other 2 runner ups are Meridian and UO, all the games on the list are just polished up verions of older games with a few new features. And possibly Guildwars that evolved from Diablo instead of the MMOs.
To be the best ever you need to do new thinking and do what noone done before and all the games on the list fail with that. I am not saying they not are good but they are to similar to earlier games to be best ever.
Make a list of all new features that a certain game invented and you will see how much more EQ did for the genre compared to all the modern games.
I beg to differ... my "first love" was a heartless bitch who held out on me for almost a year and then lost her virginity within a week of the breakup.
...and not AFTER the breakup, before hand... and not with me...
Could it have been because you were using a 1H weapon instead of a 2H?
I dont see Asherons CAll on there so I think it is not a valid list of the top MMorpg's of all time
Guild Wars
It's good to see that "other" is winning, though that might happen almost no matter what nine you put on the list.
Ya I think they meant more like current generation MMO's... you'll notice that Ultima Online and EverQuest 1 aren't on that list either.
The issue is games being subjective etc the best "ever" regardless of generation is based on personal perspective.
For me the best MMO I ever played was Ultima Online in the first 1 to 2 years. SWG being a close 2nd and only 2nd because it was more limited than UO.
So yes obviously what I'd like is a new "open" game that is like UO but expands on everything...
For other people it will obviously be different (or rarely the same ahem).
I mean to be technical the first graphical MMO I played was the beta test of "Habitat" on Quantum Link and at the time it seemed pretty awesome. That was like maybe 1986... and I was using a C64 with if i was lucky 1200 baud modem.. forget when I got the massive upgrade from 300 to 1200.
anyway /endramble
All the dungeons were located in seperate "instances" accesable via portals that took you through a short loading screen ( oh sweet swirling sound:D ).
Still, i wholeheartedly agree
Why is Ultima Online not listed? That is the Star Wars of MMO's.
The MMO I liked best was the old SSI game The Realm. I really loved the people that played it and made it come alive.
I also loved the graveyard for those that broke the rules and were banded from the game. You could go there and look at thier names on the gravestones and laugh at them if you wanted to.
There must be over a million who say that yet old school UO never had more than 150k subscriptions...
AoC had already been played about more than a million players, not at the same time however. A lot of people tried UO even though it's numbers never were that great. I am pretty sure that about a million would be a good number to the total of players that played UO ever.
Anyways this is not about numbers but what MMO was the best ever. I still vote on EQ myself.
I hate WoW never even played it. However popularity wise and profitability wise it beats everything out there. You cant argue so wow is probably the best when it comes to the real world.
For me the best MMO is FFXI.
Waiting for:EQ-Next, ArcheAge (not so much anymore)
Now Playing: N/A
Worst MMO: FFXIV
Favorite MMO: FFXI