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logangregorlogangregor Member Posts: 1,524

There are times I just dont understand "YOU" moderators on this site.


Im not a trouble maker but ever so often you all do things that are either A-NITPICKING or B- Dont make any sense whatsoever.

So currently my thread that asked about HOW to download the english patch or where has been deleted. And since it has been deleted from this part of the site, Im responding to it here.

How did I break your overly picky rules this time?


Its not illegal to play a game in China.

Its not illegal to pass links around on a site.
As far as I know its not against your rules of conduct either...pssst I just read them, again.


By the way there is 1 new message "Showing" in my inbox but no message there.

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,059

    Check your "unverified inbox", thats where moderation messages show up.

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  • LocklainLocklain Member Posts: 2,154
    Originally posted by logangregor


     
    There are times I just dont understand "YOU" moderators on this site.


    Im not a trouble maker but ever so often you all do things that are either A-NITPICKING or B- Dont make any sense whatsoever.
     
    So currently my thread that asked about HOW to download the english patch or where has been deleted. And since it has been deleted from this part of the site, Im responding to it here.
    How did I break your overly picky rules this time?


    Its not illegal to play a game in China.
    Its not illegal to pass links around on a site.

    As far as I know its not against your rules of conduct either...pssst I just read them, again.


    By the way there is 1 new message "Showing" in my inbox but no message there.

    If I remember right, NCsoft has asked all sites to remove any "guides" showing how to get into the Chinese game. 

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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,938
    Originally posted by logangregor


     
    There are times I just dont understand "YOU" moderators on this site.


    Im not a trouble maker but ever so often you all do things that are either A-NITPICKING or B- Dont make any sense whatsoever.
     
    So currently my thread that asked about HOW to download the english patch or where has been deleted. And since it has been deleted from this part of the site, Im responding to it here.
    How did I break your overly picky rules this time?


    Its not illegal to play a game in China.
    Its not illegal to pass links around on a site.

    As far as I know its not against your rules of conduct either...pssst I just read them, again.


    By the way there is 1 new message "Showing" in my inbox but no message there.

     

    I think it comes down  to the fact that NC doesn't want players to do this and therfore this site tries to respect the wishes of the game company.

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  • 0guz0guz Member UncommonPosts: 287

    the problem is not to enter chinese servers,  it is the english patch ncsoft do not approve

  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,938
    Originally posted by 0guz


    the problem is not to enter chinese servers,  it is the english patch ncsoft do not approve

     

    Exactly. Becuase it's not an official patch and they don't want players judging their game on it. Already I see players saying that the game is not translated well or that the translations don't continue throughout all levels.

     

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  • bmdevinebmdevine Member Posts: 429
    Originally posted by logangregor


     
    There are times I just dont understand "YOU" moderators on this site.


    Im not a trouble maker but ever so often you all do things that are either A-NITPICKING or B- Dont make any sense whatsoever.
     
    So currently my thread that asked about HOW to download the english patch or where has been deleted. And since it has been deleted from this part of the site, Im responding to it here.
    How did I break your overly picky rules this time?


    Its not illegal to play a game in China.
    Its not illegal to pass links around on a site.

    As far as I know its not against your rules of conduct either...pssst I just read them, again.


    By the way there is 1 new message "Showing" in my inbox but no message there.

    When you talk about illegality, it looks like you're focusing primarily on the major infraction section.  If you read the medium infraction section, you'll see the following:

    "# Unofficial Servers

    * Discussing or advertising unofficial servers or emulators for MMOs is not permitted on the MMORPG.com forums. These servers are against the Terms of Service of the original game, and violate the intellectual propriety rights of the game's publisher and developer.

    # 3rd Pary [sic] Programs

    * MMORPG.com does not allow forum discussion concerning programs that go against a game's EULA. This includes, but is not limited to, third party programs to automate gameplay or gain an unfair advantage over other players. Please check with your specific game's EULA for more details on what is or isn't allowed."

    Are you 100% positive that your post did not violate the 3rd party program medium infraction rule?  You might want to give it a little more thought before you post that what they did makes no sense.

     

  • GoldenDogGoldenDog Member Posts: 586

    Wow, nice find BMDivine.  That pretty well spells it out word for word.  Too bad there's no reputation system on these boards.

     

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  • wesjrwesjr Member UncommonPosts: 506

    I cannot see an Unofficial Patch being sited as a 3rd party app.

  • bmdevinebmdevine Member Posts: 429
    Originally posted by wesjr


    I cannot see an Unofficial Patch being sited [sic] as a 3rd party app.

     

    Try thinking about what a third party application is.  There are two components: it is an

    - application that is made by a

    - third party. 

    Are you saying that an unofficial patch is not an application or that it is not made by a third party?  It doesn't make sense to argue that it's not an application, and if it's unofficial, then it's quite likely that it may not have been developed by the creators or publishers of the game, making it third party.

     

    There's also more to the rule than just third party applications.  If you take a look, what mmorpg.com is really getting at is that it doesn't want the site to be used to encourage the violation of EULAs.

     

  • logangregorlogangregor Member Posts: 1,524


    Originally posted by Sovrath
    Originally posted by logangregor  
    There are times I just dont understand "YOU" moderators on this site.Im not a trouble maker but ever so often you all do things that are either A-NITPICKING or B- Dont make any sense whatsoever.
     
    So currently my thread that asked about HOW to download the english patch or where has been deleted. And since it has been deleted from this part of the site, Im responding to it here.
    How did I break your overly picky rules this time?Its not illegal to play a game in China.
    Its not illegal to pass links around on a site.
    As far as I know its not against your rules of conduct either...pssst I just read them, again.By the way there is 1 new message "Showing" in my inbox but no message there.
     
    I think it comes down  to the fact that NC doesn't want players to do this and therfore this site tries to respect the wishes of the game company.


    Ok thats fair.. I guess.

    But regardless of what NCsoft wants...they havent forbidden anyone from doing it (blocking IPS, bans etc).

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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,938
    Originally posted by logangregor


     

    Originally posted by Sovrath


    Originally posted by logangregor
     
     

    There are times I just dont understand "YOU" moderators on this site.

    Im not a trouble maker but ever so often you all do things that are either A-NITPICKING or B- Dont make any sense whatsoever.

     

    So currently my thread that asked about HOW to download the english patch or where has been deleted. And since it has been deleted from this part of the site, Im responding to it here.

    How did I break your overly picky rules this time?

    Its not illegal to play a game in China.

    Its not illegal to pass links around on a site.

    As far as I know its not against your rules of conduct either...pssst I just read them, again.

    By the way there is 1 new message "Showing" in my inbox but no message there.





     

    I think it comes down  to the fact that NC doesn't want players to do this and therfore this site tries to respect the wishes of the game company.

     



    Ok thats fair.. I guess.

    But regardless of what NCsoft wants...they havent forbidden anyone from doing it (blocking IPS, bans etc).

     

    But again, I don't think it has anything to do with them not wanting players from overseas accessing the game (though I do wonder about the trouble people could  get into with emulating chinese I.D.'s) and more to do with the fact that they don't want this english patch to be given to the general populace as it was never intended to be given to the general populace.

    So if you were fluent in chinese and could play then I don't think there would be an issue with you posting "hey guys, I want to purchase the chinese version of the game, does anyone know what the best site is to do this?"

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  • logangregorlogangregor Member Posts: 1,524


    Originally posted by bmdevine
    Originally posted by logangregor  
    There are times I just dont understand "YOU" moderators on this site.Im not a trouble maker but ever so often you all do things that are either A-NITPICKING or B- Dont make any sense whatsoever.
     
    So currently my thread that asked about HOW to download the english patch or where has been deleted. And since it has been deleted from this part of the site, Im responding to it here.
    How did I break your overly picky rules this time?Its not illegal to play a game in China.
    Its not illegal to pass links around on a site.
    As far as I know its not against your rules of conduct either...pssst I just read them, again.By the way there is 1 new message "Showing" in my inbox but no message there.
    When you talk about illegality, it looks like you're focusing primarily on the major infraction section.  If you read the medium infraction section, you'll see the following:
    "# Unofficial Servers
    * Discussing or advertising unofficial servers or emulators for MMOs is not permitted on the MMORPG.com forums. These servers are against the Terms of Service of the original game, and violate the intellectual propriety rights of the game's publisher and developer.
    # 3rd Pary [sic] Programs
    * MMORPG.com does not allow forum discussion concerning programs that go against a game's EULA. This includes, but is not limited to, third party programs to automate gameplay or gain an unfair advantage over other players. Please check with your specific game's EULA for more details on what is or isn't allowed."
    Are you 100% positive that your post did not violate the 3rd party program medium infraction rule?  You might want to give it a little more thought before you post that what they did makes no sense.
     

    Well its not an unofficial server but I didnt know the patch was unofficial.

    And I did think before I posted, I already stated that I read the rules, AGAIN.

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  • bmdevinebmdevine Member Posts: 429
    Originally posted by logangregor


     

    Originally posted by bmdevine


    Originally posted by logangregor
     
     

    There are times I just dont understand "YOU" moderators on this site.

    Im not a trouble maker but ever so often you all do things that are either A-NITPICKING or B- Dont make any sense whatsoever.

     

    So currently my thread that asked about HOW to download the english patch or where has been deleted. And since it has been deleted from this part of the site, Im responding to it here.

    How did I break your overly picky rules this time?

    Its not illegal to play a game in China.

    Its not illegal to pass links around on a site.

    As far as I know its not against your rules of conduct either...pssst I just read them, again.

    By the way there is 1 new message "Showing" in my inbox but no message there.





    When you talk about illegality, it looks like you're focusing primarily on the major infraction section.  If you read the medium infraction section, you'll see the following:

    "# Unofficial Servers

    * Discussing or advertising unofficial servers or emulators for MMOs is not permitted on the MMORPG.com forums. These servers are against the Terms of Service of the original game, and violate the intellectual propriety rights of the game's publisher and developer.

    # 3rd Pary [sic] Programs

    * MMORPG.com does not allow forum discussion concerning programs that go against a game's EULA. This includes, but is not limited to, third party programs to automate gameplay or gain an unfair advantage over other players. Please check with your specific game's EULA for more details on what is or isn't allowed."

    Are you 100% positive that your post did not violate the 3rd party program medium infraction rule?  You might want to give it a little more thought before you post that what they did makes no sense.

     

     

    Well its not an unofficial server but I didnt know the patch was unofficial.

    And I did think before I posted, I already stated that I read the rules, AGAIN.

     

    Posted yesterday before this thread was even started:

    http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/253/view/forums/post/2797506#2797506

    If you don't get an app from the company putting a game out, you should be skeptical and consider the EULA implications.

  • DevilXaphanDevilXaphan Member UncommonPosts: 1,144

    and that clears that question up.

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  • EphimeroEphimero Member Posts: 1,860

    Blocking IPs is not possible, what If I was born in China but had to move to Europe, shouldn't I play with my mates?

  • SurfriderSurfrider Member UncommonPosts: 302

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