Your opinion about "skill" in Aion.

superpata

I was curious about what people think about Aion combat system, mostly at later levels. Do you think skill matters/will matter in this game? By skill i mean basic things like reaction time (eg, to cancel/counter a fast/powerfull enemy attack), or even if some small strategy (eg, wich skills or combinations to use, when to use and not etc etc) have an impact in the way the combat flows, towards victory or defeat.

Mr.Midnight

No more than other MMO's.  Not that this is a bad thing mind you. 

Umbral

 

Strategies and reaction time can make a huge difference, especially with all the skill chains, and aerial combat.

Character movement provide small bonus on attack, evasion etc.

 

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Laughing-man

Originally posted by Umbral


 
Strategies and reaction time can make a huge difference, especially with all the skill chains.
Character movement provide bonus on attack, evasion etc.
 
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This, the combo system really does make for a lot of interesting strategy.  A lot of abilities are reactive too it seems like...

Flying does make things more interesting.

Channce

That word "skill" seems really really matter to some gamers.  My look on it is that if a PC game is your claim to "skill", your in a world of trouble.

Rikimaru_X

I'm glad this game didn't take the approach of silly things like skill points. It takes away that trial and error stuff and moves with the strategy of how you use your skills and the timing of it and also your movement. In other words you might face using a type of strategy that comes from a fighting game of some sort.

Mr.Midnight

Skill chains are not new, they are an improved (much ) version of what AoC was trying to do.  There is no more skill envolved in their use than in deciding which skills to use.  (continue the chain in 1 of 2-3 ways)

As for the movement bonuses, yes they add some level of strategy, but (per the OP) you can't cancel someone's attack or outright dodge it because of your reflexes.  Plus against a player who is 5 levels above you, they don't matter enough to make a difference.

Aion is a very good game, and does what all MMOs should do, it  improves on what has been done before.  But really at it's core, player level, level of skills, and gear still make more of a difference than player skill.  Not that there is anything wrong with it.    But people thinking this will be a twitch or personal skill based game will find Aion is like all the rest...only better.

superpata

Originally posted by Channce


That word "skill" seems really really matter to some gamers.  My look on it is that if a PC game is your claim to "skill", your in a world of trouble.

I do not care if you think there is or not skill in pc games and i did not say it matters or not so i am glad at least you were wise enough to use the word "seems". I will reply anyway.

It seems to me too that you may have a certain "complex" with these gamers and it seems to me you should peraphs investigate a bit and learn how there are many "faces" of skill (read dexterity and the like...) that can be manifested in many areas, including pc games...

Just for the record, "skill" in mmos is a plus to me if that means i actually need to watch what i am doing, instead of falling asleep while the pc does everything for me, but that is not the major part in an mmo that i am looking for:).

superpata

Originally posted by Mr.Midnight


Skill chains are not new, they are an improved (much ) version of what AoC was trying to do.  There is no more skill envolved in their use than in deciding which skills to use.  (continue the chain in 1 of 2-3 ways)
As for the movement bonuses, yes they add some level of strategy, but (per the OP) you can't cancel someone's attack or outright dodge it because of your reflexes.  Plus against a player who is 5 levels above you, they don't matter enough to make a difference.
Aion is a very good game, and does what all MMOs should do, it  improves on what has been done before.  But really at it's core, player level, level of skills, and gear still make more of a difference than player skill.  Not that there is anything wrong with it.    But people thinking this will be a twitch or personal skill based game will find Aion is like all the rest...only better.

 

I was not really thinking in dodging an attack but more if I could block/cancel or neutralize an attack, for example to knockback someone that is casting or performing some attack, I remember my sorc already had a 2sec cast sleep. But alas, I only  experienced the game till lvl 10, hence why I am looking for some input:p.

superpata

Thanks for the replies so far.

Offtopic: What about flying combat, is it fun in your opinion?

Rikimaru_X

Originally posted by superpata


Thanks for the replies so far.
Offtopic: What about flying combat, is it fun in your opinion?

 

It's fun but you know there is a lot to look out for. You still got your flying meter to look at and I really havent developed some good tactics but i mean if someone is chasing you, jumping off a cliff and then start flying under the earth in abyss like a roach...is good lol