Many months ago, I had some interest in this game, but after looking at the official forums for 30 minutes (it really didn't take long), I knew I would never, ever play this game. It probably deserved a 2/10 just for the community if the people playing are anywhere near as bad as the forum.
That being said, I just can't can't stay away from this forum. The entertainment value is better than 90% of professionally developed and written TV shows. This thread is a prime example. My sides hurt from laughing so hard at the idea of a couple of tards declaring war on a gaming website over a bad review of a game where the people that play it are proud to be a tiny niche that deem most people as unworthy of playing anyway.
I know alreadya topic but this has link to youtube when you wanne read this topic. Its was awesome yesterday seeing all clans declare WAR on eurogamer.net TUMBS UP for a united FRONT!
... You know, I can appreciate the sense of comraderie and all in this whole "declaring war on eurogamer" thing.
But looking at it beyond that... It's really a bit ridiculous.
As has been said... A bunch of people in an obscure MMO decide to declare a fantasy war, in a fantasy game against a gaming website because they - boo-hoo - said mean things about your pet game.
I mean seriously.
I'm sure there's tons of self-congratulatory back-patting going on at how you "came together as a community" and all, but really... All it does is makes you all look like a bunch of whiney e-thugs who take "attacks" on "your game" way too personally; with Tasos as the head e-thug leading the charge.
Is this how you're going to react to any negative review?
If the reviewer played a month and *did* do all those things some have insisted (through their own self-appointed authority) they must do before they can review the game, and it's still rated it low, would you say "well, okay... I disagree, but that's fair I guess"?
I *highly* doubt it. Several of you attack those who *are* playing the game and/or have been playing since its release if they say something negative; as though a reviewer is going to fare any better?
And please... It has nothing to do with how much or little they played or how much they understood this or that feature. The rabid fans of this game can not handle any criticism about anything to do with DF, no matter what the circumstances, no matter who says it, no matter how they say it, no matter how much proof there is to back it up. Anyone who dares criticize DF is promptly pounced on, ripped apart and flamed to a crisp, regardless.
FFS... Grow a pair and deal with it. And while you're at it, tell Tasos to do the same. I mean, you are all supposed to be "hardcore" right? How about developing a thicker skin and actually act like it?
DF is going to get a lot of flack. It happens to *all* MMOs... including WoW. It's fine to disagree or even pick apart a review that you disagree with... but this whole e-crusade thing is pointless and ridiculous.
I have to say... at this point, you guys have *surpassed* the Shadowbane community in your rabid defense of this game. You're nigh on hysterical at this point.
No, all it shows is that Darkfall banded together for a moment as a community and you take yourself way to seriously.
Many months ago, I had some interest in this game, but after looking at the official forums for 30 minutes (it really didn't take long), I knew I would never, ever play this game. It probably deserved a 2/10 just for the community if the people playing are anywhere near as bad as the forum.
That being said, I just can't can't stay away from this forum. The entertainment value is better than 90% of professionally developed and written TV shows. This thread is a prime example. My sides hurt from laughing so hard at the idea of a couple of tards declaring war on a gaming website over a bad review of a game where the people that play it are proud to be a tiny niche that deem most people as unworthy of playing anyway.
Exactly. The only reason I lurk around these forums now and then is for it's evergoing SOAP with Tasos as lead-actor lol.
It has been long since I had this steady stream of Popcorn-value Entertainment.
This has been a long time in coming, for years Tasos hid his feature complete, fully tested ready for release game from the public, only showing it to a few select friends and supporters who predictably only sang its praises.
The first time a mainstream gaming website says the emperor has no clothes on as predicted for years by the so called troll haters, the self professed most hardcore elite veteran community ever in the history of interweb gaming cry like little babies and throw a temper tantrum over a single bad review along with their lord and master.
Tasos and Co, his lies along with his passionate community of E-thugs and their shenanigans cant save them from what they fear the most, the truth about this horrid turd.
Declaring war in a 2/10 rated game on a website that gave them their first and only mainstream gaming review which has more credibility and authority then they will ever have is pathetic and desperate, what will happen if the Eurogamer re-review is very generous and gives a 4/10, will Victory triumphantly be declared in game, some victory.
The real reason why Tasos and friends have reacted so strongly to this review apart from Aventurines precarious financial situation, is there's obviously allot in general in this review that's true despite its various factual errors and it scares some people who desperately want it to succeed because of the immense emotional and time commitments they have made despite their denial and hope, and people react to fear with anger and attack that which they fear.
If Tasos and his passionate community were really confident in Darkfall being as good as they have been claiming it is for so many years they would not react in this way, they would be calm, confident and composed and would simply wait until many other mainstream gaming websites give this wonderful game the awesome reviews it apparently deserves and I'm sure will receive in time.
This has been a long time in coming, for years Tasos hid his feature complete, fully tested ready for release game from the public, only showing it to a few select friends and supporters who predictably only sang its praises. The first time a mainstream gaming website says the emperor has no clothes on as predicted for years by the so called troll haters, the self professed most hardcore elite veteran community ever in the history of interweb gaming cry like little babies and throw a temper tantrum over a single bad review along with their lord and master. Tasos and Co, his lies along with his passionate community of E-thugs and their shenanigans cant save them from what they fear the most, the truth about this horrid turd. Declaring war in a 2/10 rated game on a website that gave them their first and only mainstream gaming review which has more credibility and authority then they will ever have is pathetic and desperate, what will happen if the Eurogamer re-review is very generous and gives a 4/10, will Victory triumphantly be declared in game, some victory. The real reason why Tasos and friends have reacted so strongly to this review apart from Aventurines precarious financial situation, is there's obviously allot in general in this review that's true despite its various factual errors and it scares some people who desperately want it to succeed because of the immense emotional and time commitments they have made despite their denial and hope, and people react to fear with anger and attack that which they fear. If Tasos and his passionate community were really confident in Darkfall being as good as they have been claiming it is for so many years they would not react in this way, they would be calm, confident and composed and would simply wait until many other mainstream gaming websites give this wonderful game the awesome reviews it apparently deserves and I'm sure will receive in time.
Exactly,
If your game is so good, then you will wave any critic away, laugh at at, ignore it and continue playing.
But the moment you start an outcry and massive QQ against a single critic aka reviewer, then you only admit the critic aka reviewer is right and proving his point.
If Tasos and his passionate community were really confident in Darkfall being as good as they have been claiming it is for so many years they would not react in this way, they would be calm, confident and composed and would simply wait until many other mainstream gaming websites give this wonderful game the awesome reviews it apparently deserves and I'm sure will receive in time.
Can it be the world is full of assholes like Ed Zitron who don't give the game a fair chance and spout hate at every occasion they find. We will not wait and letting people insulting us as players and judge over us with ratings of :
"Pity them, and pity the fools that stock it and more so the morons that end up buying it without checking first."
we will call these assholes by the name and will make their shabby behaviour public.
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE-------------------------------------------------- $OE - eternal enemy of online gaming -We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
If Tasos and his passionate community were really confident in Darkfall being as good as they have been claiming it is for so many years they would not react in this way, they would be calm, confident and composed and would simply wait until many other mainstream gaming websites give this wonderful game the awesome reviews it apparently deserves and I'm sure will receive in time.
Can it be the world is full of assholes like Ed Zitron who don't give the game a fair chance and spout hate at every occasion they find. We will not wait and letting people insulting us as players and judge over us with ratings of :
"Pity them, and pity the fools that stock it and more so the morons that end up buying it without checking first."
we will call these assholes by the name and will make their shabby behaviour public.
If Tasos and his passionate community were really confident in Darkfall being as good as they have been claiming it is for so many years they would not react in this way, they would be calm, confident and composed and would simply wait until many other mainstream gaming websites give this wonderful game the awesome reviews it apparently deserves and I'm sure will receive in time.
Can it be the world is full of assholes like Ed Zitron who don't give the game a fair chance and spout hate at every occasion they find. We will not wait and letting people insulting us as players and judge over us with ratings of :
"Pity them, and pity the fools that stock it and more so the morons that end up buying it without checking first."
we will call these assholes by the name and will make their shabby behaviour public.
Case in point.
Nice, seems you got my point , it satisfies me.
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE-------------------------------------------------- $OE - eternal enemy of online gaming -We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
If Tasos and his passionate community were really confident in Darkfall being as good as they have been claiming it is for so many years they would not react in this way, they would be calm, confident and composed and would simply wait until many other mainstream gaming websites give this wonderful game the awesome reviews it apparently deserves and I'm sure will receive in time.
Can it be the world is full of assholes like Ed Zitron who don't give the game a fair chance and spout hate at every occasion they find. We will not wait and letting people insulting us as players and judge over us with ratings of :
"Pity them, and pity the fools that stock it and more so the morons that end up buying it without checking first."
we will call these assholes by the name and will make their shabby behaviour public.
Case in point.
Nice, seems you got my point , it satisfies me.
ROFL
Oh man, more awesome from DF. I love this game for the posts that come of it. I bet Ed Zitron is laughing his ass off atm too - I know I would be!
"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." George Bernard Shaw
What is a cynic? A man who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing. Oscar Wilde
If Tasos and his passionate community were really confident in Darkfall being as good as they have been claiming it is for so many years they would not react in this way, they would be calm, confident and composed and would simply wait until many other mainstream gaming websites give this wonderful game the awesome reviews it apparently deserves and I'm sure will receive in time.
Can it be the world is full of assholes like Ed Zitron who don't give the game a fair chance and spout hate at every occasion they find. We will not wait and letting people insulting us as players and judge over us with ratings of :
"Pity them, and pity the fools that stock it and more so the morons that end up buying it without checking first."
we will call these assholes by the name and will make their shabby behaviour public.
What do you want this guy todo play till the end and Post his Review with a walk through?The guy gave his opinion either like it or leave it..I should thank him in person for Not giving Df a 10 like many other Critics would probably have done and lied through there teeth just to get players there..Better Idea lets get rid of all reviewers and let have fans base review..Do you think it would be any better? So much for assholes and morons..
Some people rob you at gun point..Others will rob you at "Ball Point Pen"
I have to agree this is kinda patethic. Tasos goes all aggro-monkey over a game review that doesn't favor DF and the community goes along with him. What do they expect? expceptional ratings only? This only makes DF and their community look very desperate and idiotic imo
the EG reviewer makes it patently obvious throughout the review that his idea of what constitutes a good MMO revolves around a WOW-style carebear game. and the guy only played the game for a few hours... pff. even if i didn't enjoy the game and nitpicked over every little thing i didn't like i don't see how any reasonable person could give it less than a 6. even the tone of the article was very unprofessional... what reviewer would ever label a game's players "idiots" and stockists "morons"? very, very unprofessional.
as someone else said, it's like the devil writing a review on the bible.
I know alreadya topic but this has link to youtube when you wanne read this topic. Its was awesome yesterday seeing all clans declare WAR on eurogamer.net TUMBS UP for a united FRONT!
Thumbs up your noses you mean.. Bunch of retards.
I dont think you can find so many retards in 1 place outside the special olympics
Pathetic is the only word that comes to mind. What a shameful display by the so-called "hardcore" fans. They are a joke and a blight on the mmo world.
Never in all my gaming years have I seen such an outrage over a game review.
It's another first and a new low in the saga of Darkfall.
The problem with Darkfallers is easy to understand. There's WAY too many children supporting this game. Over 50% of the fans are between the ages of 9 & 15 and it shows.
This has been a long time in coming, for years Tasos hid his feature complete, fully tested ready for release game from the public, only showing it to a few select friends and supporters who predictably only sang its praises. The first time a mainstream gaming website says the emperor has no clothes on as predicted for years by the so called troll haters, the self professed most hardcore elite veteran community ever in the history of interweb gaming cry like little babies and throw a temper tantrum over a single bad review along with their lord and master. Tasos and Co, his lies along with his passionate community of E-thugs and their shenanigans cant save them from what they fear the most, the truth about this horrid turd. Declaring war in a 2/10 rated game on a website that gave them their first and only mainstream gaming review which has more credibility and authority then they will ever have is pathetic and desperate, what will happen if the Eurogamer re-review is very generous and gives a 4/10, will Victory triumphantly be declared in game, some victory. The real reason why Tasos and friends have reacted so strongly to this review apart from Aventurines precarious financial situation, is there's obviously allot in general in this review that's true despite its various factual errors and it scares some people who desperately want it to succeed because of the immense emotional and time commitments they have made despite their denial and hope, and people react to fear with anger and attack that which they fear. If Tasos and his passionate community were really confident in Darkfall being as good as they have been claiming it is for so many years they would not react in this way, they would be calm, confident and composed and would simply wait until many other mainstream gaming websites give this wonderful game the awesome reviews it apparently deserves and I'm sure will receive in time.
You are absolutely correct I couldnt put it better myself, cheers for bringing some common sense into this madness .
i had never heard of eurogamer before this post, and i assume i am not alone. so the irony is that this "war" has likely increased interest and site traffic at eurogamer. it seems like a good site.
whether you like Darkfall or not, you have to agree that giving a very very negative review to a game you spent practically no time playing, is nothing more than a smear attempt. Eurogamer.net deserves to get the flak for it. You cant ask for two game accounts so that you can review the game, and not even use them fully before trying to talk like an expert on the title.
Eurogamer’s MMO Editor came to me over a month ago and asked for 2 accounts to review Darkfall which they promptly received. Today, more than a month later they came out with their long awaited review and we REALLY flunked it would seem. Darkfall got 2/10.
2/10 according to the Eurogamer scoring policy means: Avoid at all costs etc. You can find the scoring policy here:
Scroll down to 2 and see how much this guy hated Darkfall and how strongly Eurogamer prompts everyone to avoid it at all costs.
The MMO editor warned me personally about the bad review on the way, and I asked him to give us some consideration and get another reviewer on the case since 2/10 is the lowest review they’ve ever given, and Darkfall’s reviews so far have been mostly good ones. It sounded very unfair to me and I appealed its publication. Not even the harshest critics of the game or the trolls on various forums would give it that low a score. This is a niche game we explained and perhaps the reviewer’s play-style was completely different and he was maybe the wrong kind of person to review the game. Darkfall isn’t for everyone after all, and having someone who can’t handle this kind of game write the review would be unfair both to the game and to Eurogamer readers. You can’t use the same tool for every job. Eurogamer’s MMO editor refused and basically said that he carefully selected a reviewer that would be fair to the game and that he would stand by the review. Then he posted the review.
When we read the hostile review by Ed Zitron, one thing became apparent: he had not played the game at all. Eurogamer readers and Darkfall players are posting bullet lists of factual errors in the story. The reviewer hadn't even figured out the very basics of the game before he wrote about it. We checked the logs for the 2 accounts we gave Eurogamer and we found that one of them had around 3 minutes playtime, and the other had less than 2 hours spread out in 13 sessions. Most of these 2 hours were spent in the character creator since during almost every one of the logins the reviewer spent the time creating a new character. The rest of the time was apparently spent taking the low-res screenshots that accompanied the article. At no point did this reviewer spend more than a few minutes online at a time.
Darkfall is the largest MMORPG game of its kind and this guy spent a few minutes playing(?) before he tore it apart. How can someone do that responsibly? Ed Zitron didn’t even give Darkfall a chance.
The entire review is opinionated and hostile; it attacks the game, the creators and the company at every chance. The creators and developers of Darkfall, as well as the Darkfall community through its reaction, consider this review suspect and question the motives behind its publication. We can take a bad review, but not like this. Even the worst reviews that we’ve received commend our efforts and speak of the potential of Darkfall. The majority of our players love the game. This review might keep new players from ever trying a game they would enjoy.
We sent the play-time information to Eurogamer and asked them to take down the article as it is damaging our game’s reputation but also Eurogamer’s reputation. We asked to get an unbiased reviewer on the case who will actually play the game before writing about it. They said that taking it down now would be more damaging to their reputation than if they left it up. After our reaction to publicize the play history of their reviewers to protect our game, they asked us to wait while they try to confirm what we already knew from our logs. We’re afraid that waiting any longer is unacceptable to us, because this review was designed to drive people away from our game and allowing it to remain without any kind of reaction is out of the question. Out of professional courtesy we’ve waited 5 hours longer than we said we would before posting this.
An update: Eurogamer got back to us via their editor and said that their reviewer is a contributing writer rather than a staff writer, that he claims to have spent at least 9 hours playing the game and they will stand by their publication. We wrote back that this is a lie and that our server logs(which they already have) show the playtime down to the second and they are at their disposal. They offered to re-review the game and see if the second reviewer has a different opinion than the first one. We wrote back that it might be hard to find someone to confirm the first review, especially if they actually play the game.
One word, IDIOTS; the df community and Tasos deserve each other.
ARE YOU KIDDING ME? THE MMORPG.COM COMMUNITY IS JUST AS BAD AS DF IF NOT WORSE.
hermm, you do realize you are part of the MMORPG community right?
I like what the mmorpg staff does, the community is total trash. I mean look here are all you bithces complaining about people having fun in DF. I tried DF and didnt like it, so I moved on, why complain about it. You all look like children.
i had never heard of eurogamer before this post, and i assume i am not alone. so the irony is that this "war" has likely increased interest and site traffic at eurogamer. it seems like a good site.
If you don't know what it means to piss off a gaming community ask someone who liked pre nge swg. I pitty that reviewer.
whether you like Darkfall or not, you have to agree that giving a very very negative review to a game you spent practically no time playing, is nothing more than a smear attempt. Eurogamer.net deserves to get the flak for it. You cant ask for two game accounts so that you can review the game, and not even use them fully before trying to talk like an expert on the title.
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And you need to stop taking anything that Tasos says as remotely resembling the truth.
In that missive he claims 2 hours played.
In his email to eurogamer he claims 3 hours played.
he cant even keep his story straight, right there he is lying about his 'logs' at some point.
They say 9 hours, plenty for an experienced gamer to tell how badly made a game is.
I could tell inside 2 minuted the UI and controls were as poor as I have ever had the misfortune of experiencing, for instance.
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Many months ago, I had some interest in this game, but after looking at the official forums for 30 minutes (it really didn't take long), I knew I would never, ever play this game. It probably deserved a 2/10 just for the community if the people playing are anywhere near as bad as the forum.
That being said, I just can't can't stay away from this forum. The entertainment value is better than 90% of professionally developed and written TV shows. This thread is a prime example. My sides hurt from laughing so hard at the idea of a couple of tards declaring war on a gaming website over a bad review of a game where the people that play it are proud to be a tiny niche that deem most people as unworthy of playing anyway.
... You know, I can appreciate the sense of comraderie and all in this whole "declaring war on eurogamer" thing.
But looking at it beyond that... It's really a bit ridiculous.
As has been said... A bunch of people in an obscure MMO decide to declare a fantasy war, in a fantasy game against a gaming website because they - boo-hoo - said mean things about your pet game.
I mean seriously.
I'm sure there's tons of self-congratulatory back-patting going on at how you "came together as a community" and all, but really... All it does is makes you all look like a bunch of whiney e-thugs who take "attacks" on "your game" way too personally; with Tasos as the head e-thug leading the charge.
Is this how you're going to react to any negative review?
If the reviewer played a month and *did* do all those things some have insisted (through their own self-appointed authority) they must do before they can review the game, and it's still rated it low, would you say "well, okay... I disagree, but that's fair I guess"?
I *highly* doubt it. Several of you attack those who *are* playing the game and/or have been playing since its release if they say something negative; as though a reviewer is going to fare any better?
And please... It has nothing to do with how much or little they played or how much they understood this or that feature. The rabid fans of this game can not handle any criticism about anything to do with DF, no matter what the circumstances, no matter who says it, no matter how they say it, no matter how much proof there is to back it up. Anyone who dares criticize DF is promptly pounced on, ripped apart and flamed to a crisp, regardless.
FFS... Grow a pair and deal with it. And while you're at it, tell Tasos to do the same. I mean, you are all supposed to be "hardcore" right? How about developing a thicker skin and actually act like it?
DF is going to get a lot of flack. It happens to *all* MMOs... including WoW. It's fine to disagree or even pick apart a review that you disagree with... but this whole e-crusade thing is pointless and ridiculous.
I have to say... at this point, you guys have *surpassed* the Shadowbane community in your rabid defense of this game. You're nigh on hysterical at this point.
No, all it shows is that Darkfall banded together for a moment as a community and you take yourself way to seriously.
Exactly. The only reason I lurk around these forums now and then is for it's evergoing SOAP with Tasos as lead-actor lol.
It has been long since I had this steady stream of Popcorn-value Entertainment.
This has been a long time in coming, for years Tasos hid his feature complete, fully tested ready for release game from the public, only showing it to a few select friends and supporters who predictably only sang its praises.
The first time a mainstream gaming website says the emperor has no clothes on as predicted for years by the so called troll haters, the self professed most hardcore elite veteran community ever in the history of interweb gaming cry like little babies and throw a temper tantrum over a single bad review along with their lord and master.
Tasos and Co, his lies along with his passionate community of E-thugs and their shenanigans cant save them from what they fear the most, the truth about this horrid turd.
Declaring war in a 2/10 rated game on a website that gave them their first and only mainstream gaming review which has more credibility and authority then they will ever have is pathetic and desperate, what will happen if the Eurogamer re-review is very generous and gives a 4/10, will Victory triumphantly be declared in game, some victory.
The real reason why Tasos and friends have reacted so strongly to this review apart from Aventurines precarious financial situation, is there's obviously allot in general in this review that's true despite its various factual errors and it scares some people who desperately want it to succeed because of the immense emotional and time commitments they have made despite their denial and hope, and people react to fear with anger and attack that which they fear.
If Tasos and his passionate community were really confident in Darkfall being as good as they have been claiming it is for so many years they would not react in this way, they would be calm, confident and composed and would simply wait until many other mainstream gaming websites give this wonderful game the awesome reviews it apparently deserves and I'm sure will receive in time.
Exactly,
If your game is so good, then you will wave any critic away, laugh at at, ignore it and continue playing.
But the moment you start an outcry and massive QQ against a single critic aka reviewer, then you only admit the critic aka reviewer is right and proving his point.
Cheers
Can it be the world is full of assholes like Ed Zitron who don't give the game a fair chance and spout hate at every occasion they find. We will not wait and letting people insulting us as players and judge over us with ratings of :
"Pity them, and pity the fools that stock it and more so the morons that end up buying it without checking first."
we will call these assholes by the name and will make their shabby behaviour public.
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE--------------------------------------------------
$OE - eternal enemy of online gaming
-We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
Can it be the world is full of assholes like Ed Zitron who don't give the game a fair chance and spout hate at every occasion they find. We will not wait and letting people insulting us as players and judge over us with ratings of :
"Pity them, and pity the fools that stock it and more so the morons that end up buying it without checking first."
we will call these assholes by the name and will make their shabby behaviour public.
Case in point.
Can it be the world is full of assholes like Ed Zitron who don't give the game a fair chance and spout hate at every occasion they find. We will not wait and letting people insulting us as players and judge over us with ratings of :
"Pity them, and pity the fools that stock it and more so the morons that end up buying it without checking first."
we will call these assholes by the name and will make their shabby behaviour public.
Case in point.
Nice, seems you got my point , it satisfies me.
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE--------------------------------------------------
$OE - eternal enemy of online gaming
-We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
Can it be the world is full of assholes like Ed Zitron who don't give the game a fair chance and spout hate at every occasion they find. We will not wait and letting people insulting us as players and judge over us with ratings of :
"Pity them, and pity the fools that stock it and more so the morons that end up buying it without checking first."
we will call these assholes by the name and will make their shabby behaviour public.
Case in point.
Nice, seems you got my point , it satisfies me.
ROFL
Oh man, more awesome from DF. I love this game for the posts that come of it. I bet Ed Zitron is laughing his ass off atm too - I know I would be!
"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it."
George Bernard Shaw
What is a cynic? A man who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing.
Oscar Wilde
Can it be the world is full of assholes like Ed Zitron who don't give the game a fair chance and spout hate at every occasion they find. We will not wait and letting people insulting us as players and judge over us with ratings of :
"Pity them, and pity the fools that stock it and more so the morons that end up buying it without checking first."
we will call these assholes by the name and will make their shabby behaviour public.
What do you want this guy todo play till the end and Post his Review with a walk through?The guy gave his opinion either like it or leave it..I should thank him in person for Not giving Df a 10 like many other Critics would probably have done and lied through there teeth just to get players there..Better Idea lets get rid of all reviewers and let have fans base review..Do you think it would be any better? So much for assholes and morons..
Some people rob you at gun point..Others will rob you at "Ball Point Pen"
I have to agree this is kinda patethic. Tasos goes all aggro-monkey over a game review that doesn't favor DF and the community goes along with him. What do they expect? expceptional ratings only? This only makes DF and their community look very desperate and idiotic imo
not sure why they would waist their time as the review was fairly spot on.
the EG reviewer makes it patently obvious throughout the review that his idea of what constitutes a good MMO revolves around a WOW-style carebear game. and the guy only played the game for a few hours... pff. even if i didn't enjoy the game and nitpicked over every little thing i didn't like i don't see how any reasonable person could give it less than a 6. even the tone of the article was very unprofessional... what reviewer would ever label a game's players "idiots" and stockists "morons"? very, very unprofessional.
as someone else said, it's like the devil writing a review on the bible.
Thumbs up your noses you mean.. Bunch of retards.
I dont think you can find so many retards in 1 place outside the special olympics
Pathetic is the only word that comes to mind. What a shameful display by the so-called "hardcore" fans. They are a joke and a blight on the mmo world.
Never in all my gaming years have I seen such an outrage over a game review.
It's another first and a new low in the saga of Darkfall.
The problem with Darkfallers is easy to understand. There's WAY too many children supporting this game. Over 50% of the fans are between the ages of 9 & 15 and it shows.
ARE YOU KIDDING ME? THE MMORPG.COM COMMUNITY IS JUST AS BAD AS DF IF NOT WORSE.
You are absolutely correct I couldnt put it better myself, cheers for bringing some common sense into this madness
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ARE YOU KIDDING ME? THE MMORPG.COM COMMUNITY IS JUST AS BAD AS DF IF NOT WORSE.
hermm, you do realize you are part of the MMORPG community right?
i had never heard of eurogamer before this post, and i assume i am not alone. so the irony is that this "war" has likely increased interest and site traffic at eurogamer. it seems like a good site.
whether you like Darkfall or not, you have to agree that giving a very very negative review to a game you spent practically no time playing, is nothing more than a smear attempt. Eurogamer.net deserves to get the flak for it. You cant ask for two game accounts so that you can review the game, and not even use them fully before trying to talk like an expert on the title.
Heres the full response.
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Just the facts:
Darkfall scores a 2 out of a possible 10. Reviewers hardly played the game based on the server logs.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/da...-online-review
Eurogamer’s MMO Editor came to me over a month ago and asked for 2 accounts to review Darkfall which they promptly received. Today, more than a month later they came out with their long awaited review and we REALLY flunked it would seem. Darkfall got 2/10.
2/10 according to the Eurogamer scoring policy means: Avoid at all costs etc. You can find the scoring policy here:
http://www.eurogamer.net/scoring_policy.php
Scroll down to 2 and see how much this guy hated Darkfall and how strongly Eurogamer prompts everyone to avoid it at all costs.
The MMO editor warned me personally about the bad review on the way, and I asked him to give us some consideration and get another reviewer on the case since 2/10 is the lowest review they’ve ever given, and Darkfall’s reviews so far have been mostly good ones. It sounded very unfair to me and I appealed its publication. Not even the harshest critics of the game or the trolls on various forums would give it that low a score. This is a niche game we explained and perhaps the reviewer’s play-style was completely different and he was maybe the wrong kind of person to review the game. Darkfall isn’t for everyone after all, and having someone who can’t handle this kind of game write the review would be unfair both to the game and to Eurogamer readers. You can’t use the same tool for every job. Eurogamer’s MMO editor refused and basically said that he carefully selected a reviewer that would be fair to the game and that he would stand by the review. Then he posted the review.
When we read the hostile review by Ed Zitron, one thing became apparent: he had not played the game at all. Eurogamer readers and Darkfall players are posting bullet lists of factual errors in the story. The reviewer hadn't even figured out the very basics of the game before he wrote about it. We checked the logs for the 2 accounts we gave Eurogamer and we found that one of them had around 3 minutes playtime, and the other had less than 2 hours spread out in 13 sessions. Most of these 2 hours were spent in the character creator since during almost every one of the logins the reviewer spent the time creating a new character. The rest of the time was apparently spent taking the low-res screenshots that accompanied the article. At no point did this reviewer spend more than a few minutes online at a time.
Darkfall is the largest MMORPG game of its kind and this guy spent a few minutes playing(?) before he tore it apart. How can someone do that responsibly? Ed Zitron didn’t even give Darkfall a chance.
The entire review is opinionated and hostile; it attacks the game, the creators and the company at every chance. The creators and developers of Darkfall, as well as the Darkfall community through its reaction, consider this review suspect and question the motives behind its publication. We can take a bad review, but not like this. Even the worst reviews that we’ve received commend our efforts and speak of the potential of Darkfall. The majority of our players love the game. This review might keep new players from ever trying a game they would enjoy.
We sent the play-time information to Eurogamer and asked them to take down the article as it is damaging our game’s reputation but also Eurogamer’s reputation. We asked to get an unbiased reviewer on the case who will actually play the game before writing about it. They said that taking it down now would be more damaging to their reputation than if they left it up. After our reaction to publicize the play history of their reviewers to protect our game, they asked us to wait while they try to confirm what we already knew from our logs. We’re afraid that waiting any longer is unacceptable to us, because this review was designed to drive people away from our game and allowing it to remain without any kind of reaction is out of the question. Out of professional courtesy we’ve waited 5 hours longer than we said we would before posting this.
An update: Eurogamer got back to us via their editor and said that their reviewer is a contributing writer rather than a staff writer, that he claims to have spent at least 9 hours playing the game and they will stand by their publication. We wrote back that this is a lie and that our server logs(which they already have) show the playtime down to the second and they are at their disposal. They offered to re-review the game and see if the second reviewer has a different opinion than the first one. We wrote back that it might be hard to find someone to confirm the first review, especially if they actually play the game.
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ARE YOU KIDDING ME? THE MMORPG.COM COMMUNITY IS JUST AS BAD AS DF IF NOT WORSE.
hermm, you do realize you are part of the MMORPG community right?
I like what the mmorpg staff does, the community is total trash. I mean look here are all you bithces complaining about people having fun in DF. I tried DF and didnt like it, so I moved on, why complain about it. You all look like children.
If you don't know what it means to piss off a gaming community ask someone who liked pre nge swg. I pitty that reviewer.
And you need to stop taking anything that Tasos says as remotely resembling the truth.
In that missive he claims 2 hours played.
In his email to eurogamer he claims 3 hours played.
he cant even keep his story straight, right there he is lying about his 'logs' at some point.
They say 9 hours, plenty for an experienced gamer to tell how badly made a game is.
I could tell inside 2 minuted the UI and controls were as poor as I have ever had the misfortune of experiencing, for instance.
EG is trying to boost the popcorn economy, how could you people complain about that????
The rules of Debate are really simple; once you have to stoop to insults instead of facts, logic, or reason to try and win your argument, you've lost.