yeah, almost everyone is looking forward to this game and I expect it to deliver. Most likely it will be game of the year when it launches and that isn't a stretch at all. I'm not a super fan, but based on the reactions I see here and ever where else, I see it happening. It may not offer everything an MMO gamer wants, but then again what MMO does? The question is, what are they doing differently and is it fun? From the way BioWare talks, it sounds like they can't keep their hands off it themselves.
It definately has my attention. I am not getting my hopes up too much on it though.
For one, a bit jade with most stuff released lately.
Second, from everything I have read, seen, heard about this game it seems to be a cross between a Single Player and MMO game. While this has me interested it may mean the game is more intances and common areas than open world. While I am truly not against this, it has not proven to keep my interest for long with other games. Such as GW or DDO. CoX did more instancing and I found tis to be a good implementation of a lot of instanced content but, it is a slippery slope if not implemented well.
With that said. Most of what is coming out lately is so watered down it becomes boring after a few hours of play. One thing SWOTOR has going for it is lore and storyline. They have always had a really good story to their KoTOR games in the past. Which I am eagerly looking forward too in this new setting.
Say hello, To the things you've left behind. They are more a part of your life now that you can't touch them.
I'm very interested in this game, but it's still early so I'm remaining a bit cautious. I need to hear more about the UI and playability. Fortunately they've mentioned they're working on a demo at E3 in the Gamespot interview. That could answer some of those questions.
It does sounds like an interesting angle they're taking with the story-driven game and different stories for each class. I'm looking forward to seeing how they pull it off.
Although it could happpen, I just can't see this game failing. I mean it is Bioware not so some joe blow mmo company who wakes up one day and thinks they can makes mmos. There will be no doubt the game will have its issues but for the most part it is going to epically pwn the majority of other mmos out there today.
Although it could happpen, I just can't see this game failing. I mean it is Bioware not so some joe blow mmo company who wakes up one day and thinks they can makes mmos. There will be no doubt the game will have its issues but for the most part it is going to epically pwn the majority of other mmos out there today.
I'm very interested in this game, but it's still early so I'm remaining a bit cautious. I need to hear more about the UI and playability. Fortunately they've mentioned they're working on a demo at E3 in the Gamespot interview. That could answer some of those questions. It does sounds like an interesting angle they're taking with the story-driven game and different stories for each class. I'm looking forward to seeing how they pull it off.
If anyone can pull it off Boiware can. Bioware has said they have wanted to do a mmo for about a decade now. Well it is about damn time!
Although it could happpen, I just can't see this game failing. I mean it is Bioware not so some joe blow mmo company who wakes up one day and thinks they can makes mmos. There will be no doubt the game will have its issues but for the most part it is going to epically pwn the majority of other mmos out there today.
Yup, I think you are right.
I'd like to take this opportunity to agree with you. If it works, if it's fun, and if the business model doesn't set people up for the shaft, I'm in. Bioware makes good stuff, sandbox or not.
Although it could happpen, I just can't see this game failing. I mean it is Bioware not so some joe blow mmo company who wakes up one day and thinks they can makes mmos. There will be no doubt the game will have its issues but for the most part it is going to epically pwn the majority of other mmos out there today.
Yup, I think you are right.
I'd like to take this opportunity to agree with you. If it works, if it's fun, and if the business model doesn't set people up for the shaft, I'm in. Bioware makes good stuff, sandbox or not.
What,,,, Did hell just freeze over? Or did monkeys just fly out of my butt? I think I saw a pig fly past my window! We actually agree on something?Oh god say it ain't so!!!!! ArcAngel3 one thing that I do acknowledge and respect (did I just say that?) is both your passion for mmos and your knowledge. We may disagree (understatement?) but I bet we would enjoy playing this one together.
This will be a game for those passionate about mmos.
This game is by far the best hope we have left for a decent MMO. I have not seen anything else recently that could catch my attention. Perhaps this game will be able to pull me in as much as UO did back in the day.
Nothing in Bioware's history would suggest they would do this. Bioware is not a fastfood company. Their games appeal to the masses because they are great games.
I'm very interested in this game, but it's still early so I'm remaining a bit cautious. I need to hear more about the UI and playability. Fortunately they've mentioned they're working on a demo at E3 in the Gamespot interview. That could answer some of those questions. It does sounds like an interesting angle they're taking with the story-driven game and different stories for each class. I'm looking forward to seeing how they pull it off.
If anyone can pull it off Boiware can. Bioware has said they have wanted to do a mmo for about a decade now. Well it is about damn time!
Put on yer glasses and read my post and also welcome back from your two week camping trip out in the woods.
This may be a great game or it may be horrible. It's too early to tell.
The problem is everyone is so obsessed with Bioware that just mentioning them seems to turn everyones brain off about the game being developed and completely focused on the Infinite wisdom of the company making it. I agree they've done great work in the past but why don't we let them actually complete their first MMORPG before nominating the organization for Sainthood.
It's funny that there is still a handful of SWG vets kicking and screaming on these forums when there is still little information on this game to base their criticisms on. Most of them like me have moved past the bitterness over that crappy game SWG and settled their issues we had with SOE and care less about SWG pre-cu. We just want a new SW MMO to start over in.
Why are they pissy? Because BioWare didn't use certain keywords they wanted to hear in the interviews? (which would have scared off the majority of other MMO players BTW) Does it mean they won’t have elements veterans enjoy? Certainly not. They aren’t making the game just for the 200 people still angry at SOE still wanting pre-cu, and yeah it is like 200 since the rest of us are fine with what we see of TOR so far. But I assume they may take the elements that worked, and do it better for TOR.
I seem to remember in a certain article early on that they admitted to looking at all MMOs, including the elder game of SWG for inspiration, but wanted to add this 4th pillar, story. That doesn’t say WoW clone to me that says the game has something to do besides making 1 billion cakes to get to the next level of chef, or flooring surfing in the cantina looking under the skirts of the dancers, or beating up thug spawns behind the Mos Eisley cantina afk while you watch whatever is on TV. Or running Bol lairs for 10 hours on Dant.
No where along the way have they said this would be a WoW clone.
No where along the way have they said a linear story was your only option in this game (choose your own adventure paths/do whatever you want yet it still has an effect on your story and character development).
No where have they said there is no exploration (look at the poll on their site, explorations wins amongst the polled).
No where have they said the game is all instances (they mentioned some aspects of MMOs and story telling you need instances, but they wanted wide open areas through-out their game, like…OMG, an MMO).
At no point did they say Jedi rules all classes (not sure about you guys, but I think each of the 2 classes so far look way more awesome to play then Jedi could ever be)
Either these nerds are just hootin and hollering to get attention, or they just plain don't like MMOs at all and are just here to troll. Eitherway believe it or not BioWare does not owe elder players anything. That said I doubt they have forgotten about the vets since part of the reason this game was allowed to be made was due in part to the failure of the game made by SOE. If you didn’t catch the mini shout-outs to vets since the first announcement then I’m sorry, reread it all, every word of it. Hell a few players from SWG are working at BioWare and talk about the old days of SWG on the TOR forums to this day. In the past a few have even mentioned that SWG was one of their favorite games. One even used to make some of the more well known SWG videos you’ve most likely seen. Most of the posters on the TOR forums have played SWG, most want what you whiners want, but instead of whining about it they talk like big people about what they want.
What do the vets want? An exact copy of SWG? There is always the emu, as for making another SWG, Raph Koster said he would never remake that game. So there you have it xD Raph Koster would never make another SWG, and he hasn’t.
In conclusion now it seems each game will have its fanbase, since the current players of SWG seem to love their game, the rest of us will have TOR. The people on the fence are either full of it and will be playing from day one, or they just like being miserable. Will we still hold BioWare to high standards for this game? Fuck yeah, but let’s just wait till the game launches to scream bloody murder or talk about how much we think it sucks.
It's funny that there is still a handful of SWG vets kicking and screaming on these forums when there is still little information on this game to base their criticisms on. Most of them like me have moved past the bitterness over that crappy game SWG and settled their issues we had with SOE and care less about SWG pre-cu. We just want a new SW MMO to start over in.
Why are they pissy? Because BioWare didn't use certain keywords they wanted to hear in the interviews? (which would have scared off the majority of other MMO players BTW) Does it mean they won’t have elements veterans enjoy? Certainly not. They aren’t making the game just for the 200 people still angry at SOE still wanting pre-cu, and yeah it is like 200 since the rest of us are fine with what we see of TOR so far. But I assume they may take the elements that worked, and do it better for TOR.
I seem to remember in a certain article early on that they admitted to looking at all MMOs, including the elder game of SWG for inspiration, but wanted to add this 4th pillar, story. That doesn’t say WoW clone to me that says the game has something to do besides making 1 billion cakes to get to the next level of chef, or flooring surfing in the cantina looking under the skirts of the dancers, or beating up thug spawns behind the Mos Eisley cantina afk while you watch whatever is on TV. Or running Bol lairs for 10 hours on Dant.
No where along the way have they said this would be a WoW clone.
No where along the way have they said a linear story was your only option in this game (choose your own adventure paths/do whatever you want yet it still has an effect on your story and character development).
No where have they said there is no exploration (look at the poll on their site, explorations wins amongst the polled).
No where have they said the game is all instances (they mentioned some aspects of MMOs and story telling you need instances, but they wanted wide open areas through-out their game, like…OMG, an MMO).
At no point did they say Jedi rules all classes (not sure about you guys, but I think each of the 2 classes so far look way more awesome to play then Jedi could ever be)
Either these nerds are just hootin and hollering to get attention, or they just plain don't like MMOs at all and are just here to troll. Eitherway believe it or not BioWare does not owe elder players anything. That said I doubt they have forgotten about the vets since part of the reason this game was allowed to be made was due in part to the failure of the game made by SOE. If you didn’t catch the mini shout-outs to vets since the first announcement then I’m sorry, reread it all, every word of it. Hell a few players from SWG are working at BioWare and talk about the old days of SWG on the TOR forums to this day. In the past a few have even mentioned that SWG was one of their favorite games. One even used to make some of the more well known SWG videos you’ve most likely seen. Most of the posters on the TOR forums have played SWG, most want what you whiners want, but instead of whining about it they talk like big people about what they want.
What do the vets want? An exact copy of SWG? There is always the emu, as for making another SWG, Raph Koster said he would never remake that game. So there you have it xD Raph Koster would never make another SWG, and he hasn’t.
In conclusion now it seems each game will have its fanbase, since the current players of SWG seem to love their game, the rest of us will have TOR. The people on the fence are either full of it and will be playing from day one, or they just like being miserable. Will we still hold BioWare to high standards for this game? Fuck yeah, but let’s just wait till the game launches to scream bloody murder or talk about how much we think it sucks.
You can't reason with the remaining vets still crying about it, they think any company to make another SW mmo owes them the world. Hell if they cant enjoy SWG why should we enjoy ToR? They will speculate the worst, because thats what they want.
This may be a great game or it may be horrible. It's too early to tell.
The problem is everyone is so obsessed with Bioware that just mentioning them seems to turn everyones brain off about the game being developed and completely focused on the Infinite wisdom of the company making it. I agree they've done great work in the past but why don't we let them actually complete their first MMORPG before nominating the organization for Sainthood. Current reaction of Bioware obsessed fans.
I love these forums. Now it is suggested I might be an obsessed bioware fan because I started a simple thread about this game and a list of their good products, did not realize I was nominating them for sainthood. Let's see I am also an EQ2 fanboi, a WOW Fanboi, A SOE lover, A SWG obsessed vet, WAR fanboi, LOTRO fanboi, That is just the short list, pretty amusing.
What I am suggesting is their track record is solid enough that we can expect a good product from them not fastfood crap as some suggest. Of course we will have to wait and see. Isn't that a given?
I think you're not understanding what I mean here. I'm not calling anyone a Bioware fanboy and I'm just as excited about SW:TOR coming out as you are. I keep an eye out for new feature and timeline announcements as much as anybody.
I simply wish that "every" thread that gets started about the game didn't turn into a running love story about how great a history Bioware has had by the middle of page 2. We know Bioware is successful, we know they have a lot of talent hired. Nobody is putting Bioware down here.
I simply wish we could get back to talking about the game and not the company constantly.
As far as the link, it's called humor. Relax a bit.
I think you're not understanding what I mean here. I'm not calling anyone a Bioware fanboy and I'm just as excited about SW:TOR coming out as you are. I keep an eye out for new feature and timeline announcements as much as anybody.
I simply wish that "every" thread that gets started about the game didn't turn into a running love story about how great a history Bioware has had by the middle of page 2. We know Bioware is successful, we know they have a lot of talent hired. Nobody is putting Bioware down here.
I simply wish we could get back to talking about the game and not the company constantly. As far as the link, it's called humor. Relax a bit.
You need to relax a bit since this thread was far from a running love story. You are making comments that are irrelevant to this thread or really any responses here. One list of games is hardly this love story you are refering to. You must be mixing this thread up with some other one.
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The graphics look insane.
I can't wait for this to release, i've been wanting to play a new Kotor game for a while now.
Playing: EvE, Ryzom
yeah, almost everyone is looking forward to this game and I expect it to deliver. Most likely it will be game of the year when it launches and that isn't a stretch at all. I'm not a super fan, but based on the reactions I see here and ever where else, I see it happening. It may not offer everything an MMO gamer wants, but then again what MMO does? The question is, what are they doing differently and is it fun? From the way BioWare talks, it sounds like they can't keep their hands off it themselves.
I would be stunned if this one doesn't deliver. Looks to be shaping up nicely.....but release.....who knows. Seems so far away.
It definately has my attention. I am not getting my hopes up too much on it though.
For one, a bit jade with most stuff released lately.
Second, from everything I have read, seen, heard about this game it seems to be a cross between a Single Player and MMO game. While this has me interested it may mean the game is more intances and common areas than open world. While I am truly not against this, it has not proven to keep my interest for long with other games. Such as GW or DDO. CoX did more instancing and I found tis to be a good implementation of a lot of instanced content but, it is a slippery slope if not implemented well.
With that said. Most of what is coming out lately is so watered down it becomes boring after a few hours of play. One thing SWOTOR has going for it is lore and storyline. They have always had a really good story to their KoTOR games in the past. Which I am eagerly looking forward too in this new setting.
Say hello, To the things you've left behind. They are more a part of your life now that you can't touch them.
I'm very interested in this game, but it's still early so I'm remaining a bit cautious. I need to hear more about the UI and playability. Fortunately they've mentioned they're working on a demo at E3 in the Gamespot interview. That could answer some of those questions.
It does sounds like an interesting angle they're taking with the story-driven game and different stories for each class. I'm looking forward to seeing how they pull it off.
yeah, right now mortal online is being made if you want sandbox
and if you like theme park aka good games SW:TOR is being made too
Just when you think you have all the answers, I change the questions.
Although it could happpen, I just can't see this game failing. I mean it is Bioware not so some joe blow mmo company who wakes up one day and thinks they can makes mmos. There will be no doubt the game will have its issues but for the most part it is going to epically pwn the majority of other mmos out there today.
Yup, I think you are right.
If anyone can pull it off Boiware can. Bioware has said they have wanted to do a mmo for about a decade now. Well it is about damn time!
Yup, I think you are right.
I'd like to take this opportunity to agree with you. If it works, if it's fun, and if the business model doesn't set people up for the shaft, I'm in. Bioware makes good stuff, sandbox or not.
Yup, I think you are right.
I'd like to take this opportunity to agree with you. If it works, if it's fun, and if the business model doesn't set people up for the shaft, I'm in. Bioware makes good stuff, sandbox or not.
What,,,, Did hell just freeze over? Or did monkeys just fly out of my butt? I think I saw a pig fly past my window! We actually agree on something?Oh god say it ain't so!!!!! ArcAngel3 one thing that I do acknowledge and respect (did I just say that?) is both your passion for mmos and your knowledge. We may disagree (understatement?) but I bet we would enjoy playing this one together.
This will be a game for those passionate about mmos.
It's not even a MMO since it's not massively but have fun in your online themepark.
And as far as I'm considered.... I'm out!
More MMO fastfood for the masses, MacLightsaber.
This game is by far the best hope we have left for a decent MMO. I have not seen anything else recently that could catch my attention. Perhaps this game will be able to pull me in as much as UO did back in the day.
Wait....this game is not going to be "sandbox"!?
BWWAAHAHAHA they just ruined this title....my god that is hilariouse!!!
As opposed to more MMO niche food for the minority?
Nothing in Bioware's history would suggest they would do this. Bioware is not a fastfood company. Their games appeal to the masses because they are great games.
Here are just a few to remind you:
Mass Effect
Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic
MDK2
Neverwinter Nights
Jade Empire
Baldur's Gate
If anyone can pull it off Boiware can. Bioware has said they have wanted to do a mmo for about a decade now. Well it is about damn time!
Put on yer glasses and read my post and also welcome back from your two week camping trip out in the woods.
It's not even a MMO since it's not massively but have fun in your online themepark.
And as far as I'm considered.... I'm out!
TOODLES =]
This may be a great game or it may be horrible. It's too early to tell.
The problem is everyone is so obsessed with Bioware that just mentioning them seems to turn everyones brain off about the game being developed and completely focused on the Infinite wisdom of the company making it. I agree they've done great work in the past but why don't we let them actually complete their first MMORPG before nominating the organization for Sainthood.
Current reaction of Bioware obsessed fans.
It's funny that there is still a handful of SWG vets kicking and screaming on these forums when there is still little information on this game to base their criticisms on. Most of them like me have moved past the bitterness over that crappy game SWG and settled their issues we had with SOE and care less about SWG pre-cu. We just want a new SW MMO to start over in.
Why are they pissy? Because BioWare didn't use certain keywords they wanted to hear in the interviews? (which would have scared off the majority of other MMO players BTW) Does it mean they won’t have elements veterans enjoy? Certainly not. They aren’t making the game just for the 200 people still angry at SOE still wanting pre-cu, and yeah it is like 200 since the rest of us are fine with what we see of TOR so far. But I assume they may take the elements that worked, and do it better for TOR.
I seem to remember in a certain article early on that they admitted to looking at all MMOs, including the elder game of SWG for inspiration, but wanted to add this 4th pillar, story. That doesn’t say WoW clone to me that says the game has something to do besides making 1 billion cakes to get to the next level of chef, or flooring surfing in the cantina looking under the skirts of the dancers, or beating up thug spawns behind the Mos Eisley cantina afk while you watch whatever is on TV. Or running Bol lairs for 10 hours on Dant.
No where along the way have they said this would be a WoW clone.
No where along the way have they said a linear story was your only option in this game (choose your own adventure paths/do whatever you want yet it still has an effect on your story and character development).
No where have they said there is no exploration (look at the poll on their site, explorations wins amongst the polled).
No where have they said the game is all instances (they mentioned some aspects of MMOs and story telling you need instances, but they wanted wide open areas through-out their game, like…OMG, an MMO).
At no point did they say Jedi rules all classes (not sure about you guys, but I think each of the 2 classes so far look way more awesome to play then Jedi could ever be)
Either these nerds are just hootin and hollering to get attention, or they just plain don't like MMOs at all and are just here to troll. Eitherway believe it or not BioWare does not owe elder players anything. That said I doubt they have forgotten about the vets since part of the reason this game was allowed to be made was due in part to the failure of the game made by SOE. If you didn’t catch the mini shout-outs to vets since the first announcement then I’m sorry, reread it all, every word of it. Hell a few players from SWG are working at BioWare and talk about the old days of SWG on the TOR forums to this day. In the past a few have even mentioned that SWG was one of their favorite games. One even used to make some of the more well known SWG videos you’ve most likely seen. Most of the posters on the TOR forums have played SWG, most want what you whiners want, but instead of whining about it they talk like big people about what they want.
What do the vets want? An exact copy of SWG? There is always the emu, as for making another SWG, Raph Koster said he would never remake that game. So there you have it xD Raph Koster would never make another SWG, and he hasn’t.
In conclusion now it seems each game will have its fanbase, since the current players of SWG seem to love their game, the rest of us will have TOR. The people on the fence are either full of it and will be playing from day one, or they just like being miserable. Will we still hold BioWare to high standards for this game? Fuck yeah, but let’s just wait till the game launches to scream bloody murder or talk about how much we think it sucks.
You can't reason with the remaining vets still crying about it, they think any company to make another SW mmo owes them the world. Hell if they cant enjoy SWG why should we enjoy ToR? They will speculate the worst, because thats what they want.
I love these forums. Now it is suggested I might be an obsessed bioware fan because I started a simple thread about this game and a list of their good products, did not realize I was nominating them for sainthood. Let's see I am also an EQ2 fanboi, a WOW Fanboi, A SOE lover, A SWG obsessed vet, WAR fanboi, LOTRO fanboi, That is just the short list, pretty amusing.
What I am suggesting is their track record is solid enough that we can expect a good product from them not fastfood crap as some suggest. Of course we will have to wait and see. Isn't that a given?
I think you're not understanding what I mean here. I'm not calling anyone a Bioware fanboy and I'm just as excited about SW:TOR coming out as you are. I keep an eye out for new feature and timeline announcements as much as anybody.
I simply wish that "every" thread that gets started about the game didn't turn into a running love story about how great a history Bioware has had by the middle of page 2. We know Bioware is successful, we know they have a lot of talent hired. Nobody is putting Bioware down here.
I simply wish we could get back to talking about the game and not the company constantly.
As far as the link, it's called humor. Relax a bit.
You need to relax a bit since this thread was far from a running love story. You are making comments that are irrelevant to this thread or really any responses here. One list of games is hardly this love story you are refering to. You must be mixing this thread up with some other one.