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OrphesOrphes Member UncommonPosts: 3,039

To keep a long story short...

 

I have this "superalmostonebuttonoverclockyourcpu" motherboard. And I have this AMD 720 CPU.

I did that, change the multiplier so the speed was 30.GHz instead of 2.8GHz. Had it running for abit longer than a week. No issues, no problems at all. Ofcourse I did not tuch the voltage.

Now after thinking about it. Did they sell me a 2.8GHz CPU for the price of a 3.0GHz!

Somewhere along the times of this overclocking madness I feel that the manufacturers managed to trick us consumers.

 

I bet someone will reply. -No, they sold you a 3.0GHz CPU for a price of a 2.8GHz one. :S

I'm so broke. I can't even pay attention.
"You have the right not to be killed"

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  • CleffyCleffy Member RarePosts: 6,414

    They sold you a 2.8ghz triple core processor for the same price as a 3.2ghz dual core.

  • Sir_DripSir_Drip Member Posts: 133
    Originally posted by Orphes


    To keep a long story short...
     
    I have this "superalmostonebuttonoverclockyourcpu" motherboard. And I have this AMD 720 CPU.
    I did that, change the multiplier so the speed was 30.GHz instead of 2.8GHz. Had it running for abit longer than a week. No issues, no problems at all. Ofcourse I did not tuch the voltage.
    Now after thinking about it. Did they sell me a 2.8GHz CPU for the price of a 3.0GHz!
    Somewhere along the times of this overclocking madness I feel that the manufacturers managed to trick us consumers.
     
    I bet someone will reply. -No, they sold you a 3.0GHz CPU for a price of a 2.8GHz one. :S



     

    WOW.. your just catching on to this? Intel sold me a 4.0 for the price of a 3.0....Thanks Intel!

     

    Somewhere along the times of this overclocking madness I feel that the manufacturers managed to trick us consumers.

    Hey dont drag the rest of us into this...Your the one that bought that POS! Not me! lol!

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  • OrphesOrphes Member UncommonPosts: 3,039
    Originally posted by Sir_Drip

    Originally posted by Orphes


    To keep a long story short...
     
    I have this "superalmostonebuttonoverclockyourcpu" motherboard. And I have this AMD 720 CPU.
    I did that, change the multiplier so the speed was 30.GHz instead of 2.8GHz. Had it running for abit longer than a week. No issues, no problems at all. Ofcourse I did not tuch the voltage.
    Now after thinking about it. Did they sell me a 2.8GHz CPU for the price of a 3.0GHz!
    Somewhere along the times of this overclocking madness I feel that the manufacturers managed to trick us consumers.
     
    I bet someone will reply. -No, they sold you a 3.0GHz CPU for a price of a 2.8GHz one. :S



     

    WOW.. your just catching on to this? Intel sold me a 4.0 for the price of a 3.0....Thanks Intel!

     

    Somewhere along the times of this overclocking madness I feel that the manufacturers managed to trick us consumers.

    Hey dont drag the rest of us into this...Your the one that bought that POS! Not me! lol!

     

    You never wondered why it is so easy to overclock CPU's? That in conjutction that the manufacturers are in it for making money.

    AMD or Intel doesn't matter.

    And I did not see any thread about this, maybe there are, but at some point it has to be ok to make one. Regardless of how old news it is for me or you.

    I'm so broke. I can't even pay attention.
    "You have the right not to be killed"

  • Erowid420Erowid420 Member Posts: 93
    Originally posted by Orphes

    Originally posted by Sir_Drip

    Originally posted by Orphes


    To keep a long story short...
     
    I have this "superalmostonebuttonoverclockyourcpu" motherboard. And I have this AMD 720 CPU.
    I did that, change the multiplier so the speed was 30.GHz instead of 2.8GHz. Had it running for abit longer than a week. No issues, no problems at all. Ofcourse I did not tuch the voltage.
    Now after thinking about it. Did they sell me a 2.8GHz CPU for the price of a 3.0GHz!
    Somewhere along the times of this overclocking madness I feel that the manufacturers managed to trick us consumers.
     
    I bet someone will reply. -No, they sold you a 3.0GHz CPU for a price of a 2.8GHz one. :S



     

    WOW.. your just catching on to this? Intel sold me a 4.0 for the price of a 3.0....Thanks Intel!

     

    Somewhere along the times of this overclocking madness I feel that the manufacturers managed to trick us consumers.

    Hey dont drag the rest of us into this...Your the one that bought that POS! Not me! lol!

     

    You never wondered why it is so easy to overclock CPU's? That in conjutction that the manufacturers are in it for making money.

    AMD or Intel doesn't matter.

    And I did not see any thread about this, maybe there are, but at some point it has to be ok to make one. Regardless of how old news it is for me or you.



     

     

    There are added precautions and added cost to OC. Thus, it an enthusiast hobby and not mainstream...  whats the point of this thread?

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  • drag9999drag9999 Member Posts: 252
    Originally posted by Erowid420 
    There are added precautions and added cost to OC. Thus, it an enthusiast hobby and not mainstream...  whats the point of this thread?

    I think he's pointing out some CPU's are sold in .2Ghz increments of the same CPU for a higher price while you could do that yourself at home. If you think about it, just increasing the front side bus won't do you any bad as long as you're stable. Increasing the voltages could imply greater costs since you'll probably need an after-market cooler and the CPU's life span will be reduced.

  • OrphesOrphes Member UncommonPosts: 3,039
    Originally posted by drag9999

    Originally posted by Erowid420 
    There are added precautions and added cost to OC. Thus, it an enthusiast hobby and not mainstream...  whats the point of this thread?

    I think he's pointing out some CPU's are sold in .2Ghz increments of the same CPU for a higher price while you could do that yourself at home. If you think about it, just increasing the front side bus won't do you any bad as long as you're stable. Increasing the voltages could imply greater costs since you'll probably need an after-market cooler and the CPU's life span will be reduced.

     I'm not so shure, because at the top of the line. So to speak, one have to have an overclock potential.

    Think about it for awhile. They are making money on this. A good and nice CPU for overclocking, will be known, people are talking about it on forums. They are buying for the OC potential.

    Would they sell this at it's top speed, whatever the processor is, it would be worthless in alot of eyes. OMG this propp sucks, it can not be overclocked.

    So why not sell it marked for a lower clock speed. Make a whole other different series. Still with the interest of "making money".

    Overclocking is nothing new, not the last ten years. It only became alot easier these last ten years, give or take, for apperant reasons. Literally exploding the last, what?, five years?

    This thread means nothing, really, it is a pure reflection on how easy it is to seduce and market things.

     

    I'm so broke. I can't even pay attention.
    "You have the right not to be killed"

  • Sir_DripSir_Drip Member Posts: 133
    Originally posted by Orphes

    Originally posted by drag9999

    Originally posted by Erowid420 
    There are added precautions and added cost to OC. Thus, it an enthusiast hobby and not mainstream...  whats the point of this thread?

    I think he's pointing out some CPU's are sold in .2Ghz increments of the same CPU for a higher price while you could do that yourself at home. If you think about it, just increasing the front side bus won't do you any bad as long as you're stable. Increasing the voltages could imply greater costs since you'll probably need an after-market cooler and the CPU's life span will be reduced.

     I'm not so shure, because at the top of the line. So to speak, one have to have an overclock potential.

    Think about it for awhile. They are making money on this. A good and nice CPU for overclocking, will be known, people are talking about it on forums. They are buying for the OC potential.

    Would they sell this at it's top speed, whatever the processor is, it would be worthless in alot of eyes. OMG this propp sucks, it can not be overclocked.

    So why not sell it marked for a lower clock speed. Make a whole other different series. Still with the interest of "making money".

    Overclocking is nothing new, not the last ten years. It only became alot easier these last ten years, give or take, for apperant reasons. Literally exploding the last, what?, five years?

    This thread means nothing, really, it is a pure reflection on how easy it is to seduce and market things.

     



     

    It was said back in the day

    Example: and a good one at that!

    P4  2.4c HT all the way up to the P4 3.2 HT (Northwood) chips were all the same chip other than the clock speeds set to each chip. Now...When Intel tested each batch (only a handfull per thousand)of CPUs to determan what speed to put on that batch of  chips. If out of the handfull of  chips faild at 3.2( maybe the voltage was too high or the chip ran too hot at 3.2 or what ever be the case)  it would be sent down the line and tested at 3.0 and if it failed so on and so forth....and would be labled per batch in this manner. The good thing was within a batch of CPU's that were tested you would find a CPU that was worthy to having a 3.2 stamped on it but otherwise stamped as a 2.4 because of the way they tested (handfull per 1000'). You will also find this with the Pen 4 "D" as well because they too all had the same FSB of 800.

    Ok now....It's the motherboard that dose all the work when overclocking! You will not find "Overclocker choise" on the CPUs box that it came in! And even today you can purchase a cheap I7 setup (prebuilt)and you cant overclock it because the cheap MB wont let you! However aftermarket MB are geared around overclocking and some are better than others. So your choise in MB is just important as the choise of CPU.

    Each CPU has a voltage range that you will need to stay within. If the voltage range is 1.23 to 1.36 and you need 1.345 to hit 4.0ghz this would be safe. As long as you keep the temps down below the manufactures heat ranges. However the cooler the better and you never want to get the heat to the max range of the CPU.

    I own a p4 2.4c OCed to 3.8 (5years)and also a Pen 4 "D' 945 3.0 @3.8(3 years) and never had one burn up! Both run under 55 deg C under load and both are running strong to this day! Its a nice way to unleash extra power more so nowa days for such old systems!

     

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