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How good is Wrath of the lich king?
Squishydew
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Hello, I've recently gotten bored of the games I'm currently playing, and I'm thinking of going back to WoW.
My only problem is...
I'm afraid that Wotlk will bore me just as much as The burning crusade.
I have a level 70 hunter, and a 68 warlock.. But i really cant decide if i should return or not, WoW is the best MMO I've experienced so far, since it allows a casual carebear like me to get somewhere.
So, should i try out Wotlk? what are some of the coolest aspects of it?
Share your oppinion and no WoW flames please, we know a lot of you "hate" the game.
( On an aditional note, i tried the trial and played the death knight a bit, which i liked untill i had to repeat BC content, and my first trip to northrend excited me untill i got the Kill X of these quests.. Gah. )
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Jesus christ! way to flame the poor guy.
OP try it out.
If you don't mind spending the cash to buy WotLK give it a go.
You may enjoy it, who are we to tell you to not play a game lol.
WotLK has a trial i believe you can roll a deathknight and check out tanking.
While WoW isnt my deal Im certainly not going to flame someone to hell that is just asking about a game and wants some info.
Edit: LOL! you edited your post. Well if you didnt like the WotLK trial then maybe you can give us some Idea what type of MMos you do like so I can push ya in the right direction.
Just dont pay Zorn any mind he hates every MMO with the exception of WoW.
Playing: EvE, Ryzom
If you enjoy WoW, you'll like WotLK. Almost all of the complaints come from the end game, just like 90% of the complaints from any game, nothing new there. There are a few additions in this xpac that make it interesting; as well as a graphical update (still no character model updates though, which was disappointing). I enjoyed the leveling through all the zones and a few cool quests were rather nice. I'd say that part of the game was improved, the end game was disappointing for me though and was a factor in my quiting (as well as just wow burnout, happens after playing for 4+ years).
dont give blizzard any more money, its obvious they dont even spend 1% of it on new content developement, they just made the game easy mode so millions of sheeple would keep paying them for crappy game play, stand up to them and play something fun instead!
What if he finds WoW fun? Just because you don't doesn't mean he shouldn't.
Wrath is pretty damn good to be honest, theres alot more quests that are involving. (such as Last Rites & the events leading upto Wrathgate.) Kill x quests might get you down for a short while but things do pick up.
Thanks for all the responses.. I'll try it out, i really hope there will be more event-like quests.
I'm enjoying it so far, i think i was suffering from a burn-out ^_^
I call this expansion "Instanced Wrath of the Teenage Lich King", because to me that is sort of what it is. Expect lots of quests, lots of instancing (and not just in dungeons, but in some areas depending upon your quest progress), and lots of annoying dialogue by the teenage Lich King who pops up now and then.
IMO, they should have scrapped the flying and just had little trains crossing over little railroad tracks everywhere like the Kiddle Land area of an amusement park. A very vast, open, empty, linear game expansion.
I will only be getting one character to 80. To me, the first 70 levels are much more tolerable than the last 10.
Just my opinion.
If you are sick of kill quests then you may find any MMO off-putting TBH as that is the basics of all of them. But if you are going to try any of them I would say give WotLK a go.
Questing and levelling through Northrend was my greatest experience in any MMO to date.
I mean sure, there are the boring patches where I felt I was forced to stay in one area too long or do quests that seemed a little too similar back to back but these were out-weighed by the positives by far.
The new quests you will be doing include the new phasing technology where parts of the map change according to what stage of the main quest line you are on for a given area. There are also new quests here building on the 'bombing run' type ones from TBC, where you take to the air to complete the objectives from shooting down gargoyles to setting fire to thatched cottages on the back of a drake. All good fun. Also, there's multiple paths to 80 so it isn't just a case of following a narrow quest progression path to level cap like it was in Vanilla. TBC changed that a bit but there are probably 50% more quests than you need to hit 80 in Northrend. So don't be shy to move area if you find it drab.
So yeah, I would say definitely give it a go, it's worth the time and money, even if it's just fro a month.
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You can walk the walk but can you talk the talk?
This comes from a sheep that refuses to do what every other person does and eats dirt instead of grass.
I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor - pre-WW2 genocide.
Dont get all pissy because your kiddie game has 100x less population then WoW. Its not Blizzards fault for your fav games failure. Grow up kiddo.
I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor - pre-WW2 genocide.
The leveling was fun, the raids were fun ... and then, with their new acheivement mechanism and their low pvp it gets boring, all you can do is raid, always the same ... WoTLK Ulduar isn't a success for me so I quit. Plain boredom.
Eaglix
OP, I was completely in your boat just a month ago. I stopped playing WoW about a year ago, and at the time wrote it off as a game that had become dead-set in its ways, was tumbling ever farther down the "lifeless hardcore raider" path, and was no longer my cup of tea.
I decided to give WotLK a chance on a whim a month ago; I had a free trial, and a few friends of mine were giving it glowing reviews, so I figured "what's the harm?". I have to say after a month of playing, it has morphed into a solid, much enhanced, extremely casual-friendly and far deeper doppelganger of its Burning Crusade self. It is a much better game in every single way, especially in regards to the general philosophy of class design and player freedom and customization (for example, you can have two talent tree specs now, every class can be a good damage-dealer if they want, there's plenty of classes that can main-tank or heal, there are hardly any classes that truly outshine others in a given department, etc.)
There's also just a whole lot to do now. Lots of factions with casual-friendly daily quests and events. Earning gold is no longer a chore. Heroic instances are now merely more challenging and rewarding and no longer time-sink hurdles on your way to raiding. Raiding, for that matter, can now be done with pickup groups.
Yea man, give it a try. If there's any criticism I can offer it's that the new content can blow past quickly if you're not careful. So the worst thing that can happen is you're only entertained for a few months and move on again. But hey, if you have fun, I'd say that's worth the $55-ish dollars.
Lich king is an improvement over burning crusade in almost every way.
The quest stories are much better and have several improved mechanics. I thought the burning crusade stories were ok, but like king stories and mechanics gave me several WOW! moments. Most of which come from the zones beyond the first 2 starter zones, but still there are lots of great quests in the tundra and fjord areas as well.
Phasing is really sweet, don't listen to others who compare it to a simple instance. Not only does it affect the world on a permanent basis for your character it is also used very well in some quests.
A few more pvp options that are creative and new. Vehicles, buildings that can be destroyed, etc.
Classes have been revamped with a philosophy designed around making the player more important than the class. So a group is no longer forced to bring a specific class to fill a specific role, because they are the only class with a certain ability. Now multiple classes can fill the various jobs required for raids or just small dungeons. All tanks can tank, healers are all great, dps all has AE and crowd control, etc.
Overall the expansion is more entertaining than burning crusade was. The game balance is a bit off prior to ulduar so things can be pretty easy, so don't be afraid to tackle higher level dungeons/areas if you want difficulty.
i personally don't mind the "kill x" quests...kinda fun killing crap hehe. is nice to switch it up a bit but some of the quests can be confusing and kind of frusterating...also, ive noticed some are fairly glitchy/buggy... example: the second to last boss fight in utgarde pinnacle the boss randomly resets occasionally [or at least used to] havent been for a while... but it was a pretty good attempt at something other than tank n spank
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WOTLK is BC with a big fat red "easy" button....i actually quit because of this expansion. Bored the crap out of me, and now you have the whole XBOX achievement system??? Wow blizz, way to just gank ideas from other people to pretend it's new content....i will not be returning due to what they are doing to this game. They are slowly killing it just like SOE did to SWG.... making it easier and easier until they finally do something really stupid and it destroys the game.
The graphics are slightly better than vanilla and TBC. The quest hub placement is better and there are a couple of interesting quests. There are numerous daily quest that can be done from round about level 72 onwards, assuming you are not to low to get in that specific zone. If you are looking for something completely new you won't find it. Wrath is basically more of the same, what you did before you will do again...
I haven't done much end game content for WotLK, however, the normal leveling up quests in WotLK have been given a slightly new format. In vanilla WoW and TBC, you could pretty much grab every quest in a particular zone, do them in one lump sum, and turn them in in one lump sum. That's not the case with this expansion. Basically, each zone now has tons of tiny quest hubs scattered throughout the area. Many of these will only become activated if you get through previous hubs. After much frustration, I finally figured out the best way to get through this expansion: When you get to a quest hub, accept and do all the quests, but ONLY DO THE DELIVERY QUESTS WHEN THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTS LEFT FROM THAT PARTICULAR HUB! Otherwise, you'll get totally overwhelmed and lost like I did. If you're questing properly you shoud only have two or three quests in your quest log at any particular time. That's a stark contrast to vanilla WoW and TBC when my quest log was full most of the time.
As for the content itself, I guess its okay. It's still the same old WoW. You can see where they tried to spruce things up by having a lot of gimmicky stuff like vehicle combat, or riding on the backs of giants, etc, but in the end there's only so much they can do with the format of this game which is now etched in stone. There were some really major quests that used phasing techniques that allow you to raid the undercity on your own and stuff like that which was really awesome.
Probably the best part of WotLK so far that I've played was the Death Knight starting area quests. That's what the leveling up process of an MMO should be. Just a few hours or so of pure fun, action, and major character progression (going from a corpse, to a slave, to an ungoldy powerful warrior). If only the other classes had similar beginnings.
well i am someone who left wow 4 months post TBC and came back last 2 months and here is my review.
I found it better then TBC.
Firstly the graphics are better ,the quest are more exciting,levelling is easier and the mobs are not as tough as tbc.But best of all epics are within the reach of even the most causal gamer with no need to grind forever.
Even crafting is better and easier as well as straightforward compared to tbc.
However as an alchemist coming back i saw something that i cannot believe blizzard would do though i understand this happened during the tbc era.
Alchemy used to be a fun profession which you could make money and was a raid breaker .You could take as many elxir as you wanted and time the pots you drink.
Now you can only use 1 flask or 2 elixirs of which some are almost useless for some casters .You can only drink 1 pot at a time
Great expansion: questing is fun, interesting and at 80 you get to /LFG or PVP 24/7.
Gear is the only source of motivation at 80.
I could go into a why I left and returned to eq2 rant but I won't, have fun leveling.
WotLK is a good expansion, but it does have one glaring negative....its to easy to the extreme, there is absolutly no challenge in the PvE department,all this cool content but you just cut through it like its hardly even there, why Blizzard is taking all challenge out of the game is beyond me(not really, I know that the majority of players are dumbasses who niether want nor could handle anything challenging).
Other then that its pretty good,
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I didn't like TBC much either. It reminded me of Masters of the Universe, He-Man, Fantasy.
Lich King is alot better. It's darker. The armor designs are much better.
Strand of the Ancients is an awesome BG, because it has tanks to knock down doors.. I am a Warlock, and I ride passenger. It protects me from the Melee Train, and I defend the tank with dots and fear spams.
I haven't started arena yet, and they say Locks are weak atm, but I am having fun and kicking ass so far.
Let me just put this out there right now: Wrath of the Lich King not only does everything better then TBC did, but it DESTROYS that expansion. The areas are vastly more detailed, beauitiful, lively, everyting looks better. The storyline for WoTLK, more so if you're Alliance is fantastic. Almost every quest has a true purpose behind it, rather it be, kill x blah, blah, blah, it's all in the name of your certain faction, and will slowly progress you towards harder, and harder quests.
Phasing is awesome, and is done extremely well. It really makes you feel as if you've contributed to the game world as a whole considering during certain quests, if you complete the chains, the world is changed forever for you. For instance, I won't spoil it for you, but you have to help a lower ranking officer in one town over-throw the leader, once that's done, she'll take over that persons position after you've killed them.
Great game, if you take your time, and really sit back and enjoy all the game has to offer, I can see you at least getting four to five months of enjoyment out of WoTLK easy.
I actually wish WotLK sucked, then I could finally play some other MMO. Seriously, WotLK brings loads of fun for players of all kind, levelling is awesome and the endgame has a great amount of everything. It can be a problem if you do not like pvp at all, but features like Wintergrasp and Strand of the Ancients BG are almost impossible to resist, even if you're a rabid pvp hater. When it comes to pve - well, what can I say, with Ulduar the encounters are any raider's dream come true.
Though I must say that WotLK did not bring enough endgame questing into raids and dungeons to make the whole storyline more immersive. I kind of hate the fact that you know very little what Ulduar is all about - no reputation or quests (except Algalon thingy) connected to it. I am not saying that they should bring attunements back, but it would be nice if raids didn't look like Disneyland wild rides (I am also referring to the easy encounters).
Im going to go play Vanguard some more. Reminds me a lot of the early WOW days cep't with a lot more content!
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Imo Wotlk is better than TBC. Still i liked the raids more in TBC because they felt more epic, but Blizzard gives the feeling to me that the epic instances will come in Wotlk. There's a very big chance they will announce their new expansion at BlizzCon this year,(We all know that it's going to be Maelstrom or Emerald Dream ofc) but i hope they'll wait with it a bit longer and launch 1 maybe 2 raids after we killed the Lich King in Icecrown Citadel. So just give Wotlk a try and there are way more epic raids to come.